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Raiding question for raiders
treyu86
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Maybe this ia a stupid and basic question but I thought this could be a good place to ask it.
I have never done raiding. Well, maybe a bit in Vanguard Saga of Heroes just because it came to me naturally with the guild I was in but just for some days. I am playing a mmorpg right now and I think I could see myself raiding in it. As I said, I have little knowledge of how guilds manage the raiding (just that there are rules, fixed days and hours for raiding, a point system to distribute loot etc)
So imagine that in that game which I am playing, I am not max level yet but I am thinking on joining a guild that does raids 3 times a week and that has completed some of the bosses of the main raid, or even finished one of the raids completely and are starting the second one. That guild has the recruiment open. How can a new member like me that gets to max level soon join that guild and be usefull and competitive? I guess you need, as a player, to finish the attunement process (which needs help from the guild) and also complete the first raid to get to the second one? Or you can start automatically on the second one? And if everyone in the raid group of that guild has already gotten to the 2nd raid, how do raid guilds manage that new member who wants to raid with them?
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Each guild handles their own business differently. You'd have to talk to your raid leaders from your current guild to see what specifics they need in order for you to raid with them. Additionally, if you're looking to raid, that means you have personal responsibility to learn about fights BEFORE you step foot into the raid. If applicable, do research on how your class/role best functions within the specific raid and specific encounters.
You're going to have to be willing to give up some personal freedom of choice in order to be competitive within a raiding environment. There's personal skill involved with raiding, but having the right build, gear, etc. will give you considerable advantages in the raiding environment
Raiding is much more simple than you believe. A serious raiding guild can and will rush you through the previous tier content and have you geared in no time. Assuming that you are worth the effort.
What you have to do is: learn your class as best as you can. Visit relevant forums and educate yourself about your classes PvE stuff like stat priorities, gear choices, rotations etc. If the game you play has target dummies then spend time on them practicing what you picked up on the forums i mentioned. level a profession able to support your raiding activities. Once you hit the level cap acquire a pre-raid gear set. Every PvE focused game offers these via crafting or dungeons. Finally, YouTube is your friend. Look up boss encounters so that you develop a good idea about the fights before entering the instance.
I hope this helped.
In our guild we look more at potential than what gear or lvl someone is. We can always get someone the gear and lvl, that's the easy part.
From my experience, the most advanced guilds don't look at gear, or lvl, you look at the person.
-Is the person willing to learn
-Does the person have enough playtime
-Is the person a social fit within the guild
-Is the person trustworthy to stay in the guild
-Does the person have the right PC / Set up / Mouse to take full advantage of the game
-Will the person be happy in the guild, is there any past history between members that needs to be sorted out
The actual gear or lvl has always been kind of irrelevant to us. You can bring a lvl 1 to lvl 100 and get them gear. What you can't do is change the person itself. There are people who are unwilling to learn, there are people who are unwilling to accept authority, there are people who don't have the right hardware to play the game, there are people who don't have the playtime, there are people who cause drama,....all of those are barriers that aren't easily fixed. Gear / lvl and even game knowledge, can easily be fixed.
If a lvl 30 comes up to me and says he really wants to join our guild and I see the person play a lot, if the person is friendly and willing to listen to advice, I'll tag that peson after discussing with officers. Because you're investing in potential. After that person is tagged and we still see the person advancing, we will intervene and help him or her quickly get to our lvl and gear lvl. We have specific people in the guild who are knowledgeable about how to lvl a person the fastest, and we will make sure one of them is the same class as the newbee so he learns everything about his class.
After the person has the minimum requirements to full member (lvl / gear), we will start a 30 day trial and a voting in which every guild member can vote and discuss.
The gear and lvl requirement are just raid requirements, the important thing is getting the tag, most members who get tagged make it through to full member, since the filtering happens on a personal lvl, not based on lvl or equipment.
Most fun I've had raiding was with a small guild that didn't have a bunch of formal rules setup. We were good enough to get through the content but not so great as to be competing for firsts. It changed as the guild grew and all those rules and point system and junk, to me, made it more of a job then a game.
As far as requirements go, if a guild requires you to have X ilvl of gear, then they are generally not very serious or worth your time. If the guild is good/serious about progression, they will require that you know your class/will not stand in fire, and will overlook gear in the short term.