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So is this we pay to alpha/beta test and also pay RMT?
This Standard Edition Bundle ($19.99 USD) grants you:
Early Access to H1Z1
3 Event Tickets (Roughly $2.97)
1 Key (Unknown Cost)
2 Crates (Unknown Cost)
So 1 key but 2 crates?
We have to buy anouther key to open the second box, on top of the base price we pay to get EA. (If you want to open it)
Next we have to pay to get in events or wait for in game drops (very low rate maybe?)
This is more like B2P with cash shop then in a year it will be full F2P.
They should just say we are B2P with cash shop then we are F2P at a later day.
Oh my S.O.E how you have lost it... Just go back to subs we all get fair deals that way.
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SoE has not lost anything. If people are willing to pay to help in beta or alpha thats something they chose to do with their money. Its as foolish as these crowd funded games but at least with this you get to test the game. If it offends you so badly, dont pay and wait for it to come out and play for free then.
P.S. if the cash shop is like Landmarks (and I bet it is) you get to use the items in beta and when the game goes live, you will get them back again then.
The biggest point here is that you are not paying to "test" anything. You are buying "Early Access".
There is a difference between a Beta/Alpha Tester and Early Access player who just happens to have access to the game during Alpha and Beta. Throwing the terms "alpha" "beta" and "testing" around is a marketing strategy, nothing more.
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What bugs me is, you pay for Keys,Air Drop Tickets,Event Tickets and get some fancy stuff.
Then you get killed and looted, so you lose Real Money. Or i'm wrong?
Well that is fine, Will we get to do the events for free as well? No you will pay for the ticket and get it back on F2P.
So you could call it buy to play then..
Honestly we are splitting hairs here and it is all a matter of perspective. Game companies have realized that the MMO market has been so poor lately, that people are grasping at anything and willing to pay for something that traditionally they received payment for (that payment being free early access if they agreed to beta test a developers game).
So yeah, depending on your perspective, it is PAY to ALPHA or BETA test because that is exactly what you are doing. Buying early access as you put it is just another one of those marking terms and strategies that covers up what it really is.
Now here is the thing. You really can't complain about this marketing strategy because lets face it, it wouldn't exist if people weren't willing to pay for it.
You could, but that would make them less money. Get it? They "could" call it B2P but why would they? The game isn't finished, and calling it "Early Access" lets them release before it's ready.
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And I can complain about marking strategy. But I'm not complaining about the industry cornering a vulnerable market, that's business. I'm complaining that the players are in the dark of what's going on. "Ignorant" has a negative connotation and I don't want to insult my fellow players but most of them buy into it so willingly. they're sheep. you're right. People are willing to pay for it. But it's shady and makes me dissapointed in developers. Why manipulate the market like that? It's like Photoshop in Fashion. They're taking an ignorant mass, flipping a few coin phrases "alpha" "beta" "test" "early" all marketing Hot words and making money off of it. Which, I'd be fine with if that money was being used to deliver something worth while. But no, they're making millions off the backs of ignorant and desperate players and they aren't delivering. MMO after MMO of generic template trash.
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They have a subscription, for $15 you get all access to every game in their library. H1Z1 will have some sort of subscription that'll be part of all access, and you still get 500 station cash each month.
No, because you dont need to pay anything to play. An option to get in early is for sale but its optional.
I'd bet against you. I think it looks like SOE is planning to start making money through selling those in-game consumables from day 1 of early access.
Here's the deal... you're bored out of your skull... some game is in early development, but for a small fee (or large) you can play it right now... that's what you are paying for. The game itself will be released down the road. Same game, more or less, than the one you are playing now. Won't cost you a dime to play like it does now. Sure they will have cash shops and all, but the base game will essentially be free. When the game does release, you will have already played it to death, so that when your friends do try it, you're already bored of it. You and your friends quit in under a month of it's release. You look for another game that isn't released yet that you can pay your way into early... rinse repeat.
That is a fair deal to all the game they have, but do we get the 500 in h1z1 as it is EA?
Yeah, because your progress will likely be reset on launch anyway. That's why I usually don't participate in paid alphas/betas anymore. Anytime I buy into a game that has alpha/beta access, I'll generally let my kids play it, since they have more time than me, lol.
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H1Z1 is SOE not EA.
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Yes but EA is early access not electronic arts as you think
EA = early access, I know its a pain, IMO to many acronyms is just BS and just makes me LMAO when people use to many of them. Just an FYI.
EA = Early Access...
Personally i wouldn't recommend anyone buying into a game before it launches as a full game, very few games these days that i would even 'pre-order' i think anyone thinking of buying into this, really needs to be sure they know exactly what they are buying into.
It is not about the base fee, more about the RMT in EA.
GW2 did it and Landmark. They need to test their RMT as well. When beta ended everyone that tested got their gems again to spend or in the case of Landmark, you get the items back again in live. Testing requires all systems tested.
EA = Early Access (gotchya the lack of a preposition confused me)
GW2 gave you free gems to spend during Alpha and Beta. And any gems you bought with real money during Alpha/Beta were given back to you at release.
Landmark is doing the same thing. Since Landmark is SOE, then it's probably going to be the case here as well.
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Yeah but they could give you pretend credits to spend in the store.... Oh wait if we make them pay to test our RMT with real money... we can refuse refunds under the digital sales act.
Yes, it's fair to assume that you will have all your credits/items restored once the game launches.
Selling the items during EA has less to do with testing than it has with taking advantage of impulse spending. People WILL spend real money on items during Early Access if given the chance. Promising them a full re-set of store credits at launch makes that spending even more likely.
Many people may grow tired of the game during EA/alpha/beta. They won't be around after launch to spend money in the Cash Shop, so you have to catch them as early as possible. Once they've spent the money, it doesn't matter what happens after that.