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I find it difficult to group for low lvl dungeons

RamajamaRamajama Member UncommonPosts: 271

So I just started with this game, levelled my dps to lvl 13 looking forward to do the dungeon runs. X hours in group finder, in chat or in front of banished cells - nothing. So i rolled a tank (even though a bad idea for a noob i guess). I reach spindleclutch, wait in front, shout in chat and use group finder and... nothing. The tank lfg were not done at peak hours, dps yes. image

We have an EU megaserver ffs, are there really NO players in ALL OF EUROPE to do the dungeons with? Or am I missing something?

The game is otherwise great, love the builds, lore, graphics, combat, etc. But big dissapointment in this "dungeons" department.

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  • TelondarielTelondariel Member Posts: 1,001
    Originally posted by Ramajama

    So I just started with this game, levelled my dps to lvl 13 looking forward to do the dungeon runs. X hours in group finder, in chat or in front of banished cells - nothing. So i rolled a tank (even though a bad idea for a noob i guess). I reach spindleclutch, wait in front, shout in chat and use group finder and... nothing. The tank lfg were not done at peak hours, dps yes. image

    We have an EU megaserver ffs, are there really NO players in ALL OF EUROPE to do the dungeons with? Or am I missing something?

    The game is otherwise great, love the builds, lore, graphics, combat, etc. But big dissapointment in this "dungeons" department.

    PUG formation is always hit and miss.  Also, the LFG tool needs work to get it to a more useful state, so people don't really use it.  I'd suggest joining a variety of guilds, with one of them being  socially oriented.  That seems to be the best route people use when they want to organize dungeon runs, regular grouping, or whatever. 

     

    I'd take a look at this Reddit as it is specifically geared towards guild recruitment. 

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  • SiugSiug Member UncommonPosts: 1,257
    It's a disgrace that they haven't fixed group finder in 2 months or even longer. I haven't had time to play recently but I guess it's still broken which is not acceptable in a P2P MMO. I remember it working properly before 1.5 patch.
  • IridescentJoeIridescentJoe Member Posts: 89
    If you don't see anyone in /zone chat asking for running a dungeon then that's bad news. My problem was at higher levels though (US server). Seems the EU has less players at lower levels. After playing one toon up to 50+ and grinding the VRs, many players would call it a day and wait for the next patch.
  • nerovipus32nerovipus32 Member Posts: 2,735
    Originally posted by Siug
    It's a disgrace that they haven't fixed group finder in 2 months or even longer. I haven't had time to play recently but I guess it's still broken which is not acceptable in a P2P MMO. I remember it working properly before 1.5 patch.

    Why am i surprised that you haven't played recently, oh yeah it's because of your false statement.OP if you want a group try running to the dungeon entrance theres always people there forming groups.

  • PyukPyuk Member UncommonPosts: 762
    Originally posted by nerovipus32
    Originally posted by Siug
    It's a disgrace that they haven't fixed group finder in 2 months or even longer. I haven't had time to play recently but I guess it's still broken which is not acceptable in a P2P MMO. I remember it working properly before 1.5 patch.

    Why am i surprised that you haven't played recently, oh yeah it's because of your false statement.OP if you want a group try running to the dungeon entrance theres always people there forming groups.

    OP already pointed out he tried standing in front of the entrances. No one was there. Your post has become ironic.

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  • phantomghostphantomghost Member UncommonPosts: 738

    From my experience the first dungeon was typically the most difficult to find a group for.  Actually  the standard group, tank/dps/dps/healer is not needed (it can really be done without a tank... I have had a group go to last boss without a healer in Spindle)

     

    I have not played since late June/Early July.  Once you complete the dungeon for your alliance you can play the other 2.  I always started the same alliance, so I had to do spindle first.  Usually I ended up unable to do spindle until I out leveled it (not always.. but I always did my LFG messages while grinding the zombies nearby.  

     

    If you are just looking to do dungeons so you do not have to solo.. (I wish the game and other people were more like this)  you are likely out of luck.  If you just want to do them for the skill point or gear... the good news is the gear is quickly upgraded when you level and you can go back and easily complete the first dungeons when you are around your VR levels.  

     

    Spindle (1st dungeon set)- typically difficult to find group

    Sewers (2nd dungeon set)- Usually found these to be the fastest

    CoH (3rd dungeon set)- Fairly easy to find group

    Volenfall (4th dungeon set)- Fairly easy to find group

    BH (5th dungeon set)- About as easy as the sewers.. usually a good bit of groups here

    VoM- Nearly as difficult as the 1st set (maybe worse because people are looking to move on to VR stuff at this point)

     

    I was on US, so I am not sure how much it differed from EU, I also do not know now that the game has been out 8 months how much of an impact that has had on low levels.

     

     


  • Shayyd80Shayyd80 Member Posts: 110
    I gave this game 3 seperate tries total. Last night I could not solo faolchu in a solo instance (i'm a destro staff sorcerer too!). Died 12 times. Deleted the game. I've had enough of the imbalance that is ESO and the bugs.
  • SiugSiug Member UncommonPosts: 1,257
    Originally posted by Shayyd80
    I gave this game 3 seperate tries total. Last night I could not solo faolchu in a solo instance (i'm a destro staff sorcerer too!). Died 12 times. Deleted the game. I've had enough of the imbalance that is ESO and the bugs.

    This was not bug or imbalance but you not paying attention what the quest giver was saying (something about fire eh?). You complained about it another thread already and people replied, why are you coming with the same shite again, knowing very well what the problem was. Now you are just trolling.

  • SiugSiug Member UncommonPosts: 1,257
    Originally posted by nerovipus32
    Originally posted by Siug
    It's a disgrace that they haven't fixed group finder in 2 months or even longer. I haven't had time to play recently but I guess it's still broken which is not acceptable in a P2P MMO. I remember it working properly before 1.5 patch.

    Why am i surprised that you haven't played recently, oh yeah it's because of your false statement.OP if you want a group try running to the dungeon entrance theres always people there forming groups.

    Stop your fanboy crap, I'm an ESO player and plan to continue until this game is P2P (might be years) but if something is broken then it's broken. If it's repaired now then good and I'm happy. I just cannot play MMOs all the time, probably have more time next month.

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Originally posted by Siug
    Originally posted by Shayyd80
    I gave this game 3 seperate tries total. Last night I could not solo faolchu in a solo instance (i'm a destro staff sorcerer too!). Died 12 times. Deleted the game. I've had enough of the imbalance that is ESO and the bugs.

    This was not bug or imbalance but you not paying attention what the quest giver was saying (something about fire eh?). You complained about it another thread already and people replied, why are you coming with the same shite again, knowing very well what the problem was. Now you are just trolling.

    Hahah yeah, that's what you get for skipping all the quest voice for the whole chain! lol We've all been there Shayyd. The entire quest chain is learning how to defeat him. He's cake when you do what you learned. Hint hint - that fire all over the place is very important. image

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342


    Originally posted by Shayyd80

    I gave this game 3 seperate tries total. Last night I could not solo faolchu in a solo instance (i'm a destro staff sorcerer too!). Died 12 times. Deleted the game. I've had enough of the imbalance that is ESO and the bugs.

    Happened to me to...on first character. On my second try(character) I just could not understand how I could fail before.

    Not a game issue, get better.

  • phantomghostphantomghost Member UncommonPosts: 738
    Originally posted by Shayyd80
    I gave this game 3 seperate tries total. Last night I could not solo faolchu in a solo instance (i'm a destro staff sorcerer too!). Died 12 times. Deleted the game. I've had enough of the imbalance that is ESO and the bugs.

    As other's said if you pay attention or even if not (I skip all reading as well)  if you failed it 3 or 4 times, I would assume a normal "thinking" person would look it up to figure out you use the fire.

     

    As far as sorc goes, destro staff when I quit was the OP way to go... one of the reasons I quit (on top of its too much a solo game for my likings and nothing to do beyond the week to max level and the week or so to have a  full crafted set of armor... nearly as good as the difficult to obtain raid/vr12 sets)  

     

    Sorc was the only class I could do faolchu without the fire. (Reaver type build where hits/crits etc would heal me for a % of dmg done)  but it took me 2 or 3 attempts.  

     

    But in all honesty if you were unable to get past the like level 10-12 quest... it is probably a good thing you quit because you are not meant to play games in general.  This game I would rate about a 1 on a scale of 1-10 as far as difficulty.  The only difficult parts in this game start around the VR12 dungeons (CoH was the first one I believe I was ever in with the group wiping multiple times)  

    You might want to stick with games like tic-tac-toe although... even this might be a challenge for you based on your above post.


  • GravargGravarg Member UncommonPosts: 3,424
    The group finder is pretty junky, your best bet is to use zone chat or join a large guild.  There's always someone around your level leveling up in larger guilds :)
  • OriousOrious Member UncommonPosts: 548

    People are no longer scrambling to do dungeons at the level you get them since they added dungeon scaling. Also at lvl 40 undaunted pledges start. Those pledges pretty much say "this is todays dungeon". Ever try standing outside spindle?

     

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  • RamajamaRamajama Member UncommonPosts: 271

    Originally posted by Pyuk

    OP already pointed out he tried standing in front of the entrances. No one was there. Your post has become ironic.

    Thats correct, sometimes in the evening I saw 2-3 people standing there, when I was levelling, but not always and definitely not as many as I would thought before playing this game. EU Megaserver should have thrown all the people at that level together. I am not sure how the server instances or whatever works, but its hard for me to believe that in all of EU I was the only one person that wanted to do the dungeon at Sunday primetime. Unbelievable.

     

    Originally posted by IridescentJoe
    If you don't see anyone in /zone chat asking for running a dungeon then that's bad news. My problem was at higher levels though (US server). Seems the EU has less players at lower levels. After playing one toon up to 50+ and grinding the VRs, many players would call it a day and wait for the next patch.

    Yup. Thats exactly what is happening, not a single person asking in zone chat for group for hours.

     

    Originally posted by Telondariel

     

    I'd take a look at this Reddit as it is specifically geared towards guild recruitment. 

     

    Thanks, didnt know this link. Most of the threads there are for NA (apparently game is much more popular in NA than in EU) but already found a couple that I will try. image

     

  • rodarinrodarin Member EpicPosts: 2,611
    No one is looking because people just go into them and find people. I have yet to enter a public dungeon on any of the factions and not found people inside there already. Regardless of time of day. It might be a Euro thing though who knows?
  • netosampaionetosampaio Member UncommonPosts: 23
    Wait until you get to craglorn, its impossible to find groups for the quests there, people just want to grind haha
  • fivorothfivoroth Member UncommonPosts: 3,916
    If they have only 1 server per region and you still can't find any people for low level dungeons in a game which is about 7-8 months old, then I am seriously surprised as that would mean that ESO has a very low population.

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  • OriousOrious Member UncommonPosts: 548
    Originally posted by rodarin
    No one is looking because people just go into them and find people. I have yet to enter a public dungeon on any of the factions and not found people inside there already. Regardless of time of day. It might be a Euro thing though who knows?

    Not public... The group/story driven dungeons/raids..

     

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    I actually didn't bother the first couple dungeons until I was like 30 and soloed them...lol. But can't do that now.

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  • stealthbrstealthbr Member UncommonPosts: 1,054
    Agreed. They need to fix the LFG tool ASAP. Currently, finding a group to run dungeons is an exercise in futility.
  • Moar61Moar61 Member UncommonPosts: 260

    I had no idea LFG had broken. It's been a couple months since I needed to use it though. Back when it did work, it was quite easy to find a group for any dungeon, even if you couldn't find any in zone chat. Many people who were LFG were willing to do all 3 dungeons as well. I'm not sure, but I'm assuming it's going to be fixed in Update 6? 

     

    As for now, I think OP's best chance is to join a good guild. There's plenty to go around. I've found myself grouping up with lots of the people in my trading guild. I guess another opportunity is to keep an eye on the daily dungeon quests (non-veteran ones in your case). There will always be people looking to do the daily dungeon quests.

  • doodphacedoodphace Member UncommonPosts: 1,858
    Originally posted by Nanbino
    Considering it is a RIFT clone. Expect RIFT problems. Same thing. To many people quit. Small niche that exist are now funneled to end game. Alt's generaly skip dungeons. That leaves tons of abandon dungeons early on (or just key ones that most people keep dungeon finder spamming, but never properly geared so wipe)... *shrug* Still paying a sub price? Sucker.

    Rift has a dungeon finder that pops in 15-30 min on avg for DPS, no matter your level. Tank is almost always instant no matter the level or time of day. If you say its like Rift, than you are saying there are no issues finding dungeon groups at lower levels no matter the time of day?

  • phantomghostphantomghost Member UncommonPosts: 738
    Originally posted by Nanbino
    Considering it is a RIFT clone. Expect RIFT problems. Same thing. To many people quit. Small niche that exist are now funneled to end game. Alt's generaly skip dungeons. That leaves tons of abandon dungeons early on (or just key ones that most people keep dungeon finder spamming, but never properly geared so wipe)... *shrug* Still paying a sub price? Sucker.

    I always did the dungeon on all 4 characters.  They provide a skill point.. a very easy to obtain skill point- and the potential to get a piece of gear (even though it will not last very long as far as an upgrade).


  • RamajamaRamajama Member UncommonPosts: 271
    Originally posted by Rhoklaw

    This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say MMO's now are so dumbed down since UO or EQ. You don't need a dungeon finder to do dungeons. You need to get your anti-social butt into a guild or make your own group of friends. I swear people are so against guilds or making friends now and want nothing more than to "hit it and quit it" in terms of dungeons. What I missed about vanilla EQ and the difficulty of that MMO is probably the main reason most new MMO's fail, cause you content locusts that skip through quests only to level up to max level and complain that you are bored should just stop playing MMO's altogether. At the very least, you should stick to FPS games or similar products that don't focus on story content or exploration elements, like Planetside 2.

    I am not sure who you are referring to in your first paragraph -  I, for one love content and quests in ESO and was looking forward to group only for the sake of playing with other people. Would not call myself content locust.

    I do not have RL friends playing MMOs, I have a small baby son, so my playing time cannot so well be synchronized with some other online friends. I have joined 5 (FIVE) guilds, and been hanging out in front of the dungeon for good proportion of my playing time. With my freaking tank! No groups at all as a result. When a guy like me, that has 90 minutes of playing time in the evening available, I simply cannot spend it frustratingly "looking for friends".

    Is this what all people on this forums are referring to as the "good old days"? Spamming LFG endlessly and calling that a "real" mmorpg hardcore sandbox whatever? To me... it seems frustrating... I am frustrated from this game, and I love all the rest of it.

  • RamajamaRamajama Member UncommonPosts: 271
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by Nanbino
    Considering it is a RIFT clone. Expect RIFT problems. Same thing. To many people quit. Small niche that exist are now funneled to end game. Alt's generaly skip dungeons. That leaves tons of abandon dungeons early on (or just key ones that most people keep dungeon finder spamming, but never properly geared so wipe)... *shrug* Still paying a sub price? Sucker.

    lol as ESO continues to grow. Your unfounded hate fuels it. Keep it up hater.

    I would love to agree with you, but this is the case maybe for NA servers. EU looks more barren than any other MMOs I have played (ncl. likes of Uncharted Waters Online or Age of Wushu).

    I am literally shocked at the state of the low lvl population in ESO. But I still think I am doing something wrong. I joined some wrong server instance or the game just ignores me.... It just CANNOT be so empty. I am serious.

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