Steam: The only place where you get banned for telling the truth

Razeekster

So, I warned players before buying Xyson that they should probably know that this game has been out for a number of years already, and even had a Kickstarter to continue their development. I saw their move to go to Early Access on Steam as a money grab in all honesty, but here is my reply to someone telling them how they had been on Kickstarter, and I'm being told I was banned permanently for "posting false information."

 

And here is a picture where Xyson itself announces it's own Kickstarter:

If nothing else, Steam's Early Access program has given the people a look at how quite a lot of developers lack any moral compass when it comes to getting their game an influx of cash (look up other Early Access games, and you can see how developers work reviews so a large percentage of negative reviews are flagged, even though they are legitimate reviews and usually have more up-votes and other people's agreement than the positive reviews, and at how they delete any negative posts on their game's forums, no matter how slight, even giving out permanent bans to the people who post them). It's rather sad and has made my disdain for the Early Access program only grow.

onsenfou

Well thanks for the info. GL with that ban thing there. Quite sure I am not gonna get this game because of that post.

thekid1

I am not really familiar with Steam community, I still use the forums haha.

Banned by whom and from where?

Valve and ALL Steam community pages or just for that particular game?

vadio123

Problem its not steam itself

But Xsyon dev(yea i buy this crap and get trap in he lies) 

but here its warning DONT BUY XSYON

First all because are release few years ago , no early start 

Second so many promises and never finished over years 

Razeekster

Originally posted by thekid1

I am not really familiar with Steam community, I still use the forums haha.

Banned by whom and from where?

Valve and ALL Steam community pages or just for that particular game?

Just from the Xyson forum by a Xyson dev. Sorry, the title may be misleading now that I think about it (I just naturally assumed people would know what I meant, since this sort of thing isn't very uncommon with Early Access games).

damond5031

Hopefully posts like this will keep other folks from funneling money to these guys.

jdnewell

This is a prime example of why I dont do Kickstarter or buy early access. People that do are taking a gamble with the product and know that in advance.

Brenics

Thanks for the heads up. One game to stay far away from.

Voqar

I've been banned from numerous forums over time (usually not permanently and even here) for violating terms.  Your opinion or interpretation isn't necessarily truth, and if you get banned for violating terms you agreed to, what's the problem?  You may mean well but it's not necessarily your job to police the web and there are likely better ways to do it that wouldn't get you banned.

Adjuvant1

But... Xsyon: Prelude wasn't funded by Kickstarter. If you're referring to Xyson: Apocalypse, it failed to reach it's goal by.. well.. over 96% heh.

I understand it's the same company, same IP, you can argue it's the same game, same deal etc, and that's fine, but even in that event you're mistaken. Saying something "was funded by Kickstarter", when the funding was unsuccessful and no pledges collected, is a mistruth. I'm not defending the game, I don't like the game, I don't play the game, but in this event, you did indeed convey false info.

http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/382040989/xsyon-apocalypse/

Phry

Originally posted by Adjuvant1

But... Xsyon: Prelude wasn't funded by Kickstarter. If you're referring to Xyson: Apocalypse, it failed to reach it's goal by.. well.. over 96% heh.

I understand it's the same company, same IP, you can argue it's the same game, same deal etc, and that's fine, but even in that event you're mistaken. Saying something "was funded by Kickstarter", when the funding was unsuccessful and no pledges collected, is a mistruth. I'm not defending the game, I don't like the game, I don't play the game, but in this event, you did indeed convey false info.

http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/382040989/xsyon-apocalypse/

That does explain things, and as he was banned for posting misinformation, in this case, about the whole kickstarter thing, then it does kind of put things back into the correct perspective. Having said that, a permaban for that single statement, which in all probability was the result of a genuine mistake on the OP's part, does seem excessive, particularly as they seem to be still in ignorance of the true situation.

Everket

A shame you did not post the truth. But I understand, you thought that it was the truth, but you are wrong. Hopefully you understand now.

nariusseldon

Personally, i think all early access games are just not worth the headache and won't touch with a ten foot pole.

I don't know why people actually needed to be warned. If they buy into pretty much an unfinished product, that is their problem, not mine.

 

Adjuvant1

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by Adjuvant1

But... Xsyon: Prelude wasn't funded by Kickstarter. If you're referring to Xyson: Apocalypse, it failed to reach it's goal by.. well.. over 96% heh.

I understand it's the same company, same IP, you can argue it's the same game, same deal etc, and that's fine, but even in that event you're mistaken. Saying something "was funded by Kickstarter", when the funding was unsuccessful and no pledges collected, is a mistruth. I'm not defending the game, I don't like the game, I don't play the game, but in this event, you did indeed convey false info.

http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/382040989/xsyon-apocalypse/

That does explain things, and as he was banned for posting misinformation, in this case, about the whole kickstarter thing, then it does kind of put things back into the correct perspective. Having said that, a permaban for that single statement, which in all probability was the result of a genuine mistake on the OP's part, does seem excessive, particularly as they seem to be still in ignorance of the true situation.

Well, if you read their forums, people (rightfully) arguing against subscription for a game still sheltering itself under the guise of early access after 4 (5?) years, (you know I'm really against all this but I won't repeat it for the sake of on-topic discussion), and others saying, "just don't buy it", the devs are probably in damage control mode, at wits end. Good. It's time for that game's devs, as my dad used to say, to "shit or get off the pot" (deliver or quit playing around), gather some self respect and call the game released. This money grubbing under disclaimers is absolute horse manure.

Iselin

Imagine that! You called the developers scammers in their chunk of the Steam universe and they banned you. What's the world coming to when people won't stand for being insulted in their own place? Isn't that like a violation of the international right to troll or something?

dave6660

Originally posted by Iselin
Imagine that! You called the developers scammers in their chunk of the Steam universe and they banned you. What's the world coming to when people won't stand for being insulted in their own place? Isn't that like a violation of the international right to troll or something?

To be fair, I've read comments on Steam calling some game makers (Capcom comes to mind) a lot worse than "scammers".

vadio123

except in theory Xsyon not unfinished product and are release in 2011

 

and try scam people in kickstart / early acess 

Iselin

Originally posted by dave6660

Originally posted by Iselin
Imagine that! You called the developers scammers in their chunk of the Steam universe and they banned you. What's the world coming to when people won't stand for being insulted in their own place? Isn't that like a violation of the international right to troll or something?

To be fair, I've read comments on Steam calling some game makers (Capcom comes to mind) a lot worse than "scammers".

Sure, so have I. Developers are individuals too with different tolerance levels for abuse. Insult at your own risk and don't whine if they snap back at you.

Dibdabs

Originally posted by Razeekster

Just from the Xyson forum by a Xyson dev. Sorry, the title may be misleading now that I think about it (I just naturally assumed people would know what I meant, since this sort of thing isn't very uncommon with Early Access games).

So, not really anything to do with Steam then, if it was the Xyson forum and you were banned by a Xyson dev.  Maybe a change to the thread title is merited?

JJ82

The OP must be new to the MMO world because people have been getting banned left and right giving their opinions going all the way back to the early 2000s when games finally received their own forums on the game companies websites. This includes the more accurately compared Store websites like Gamestop (reply negatively to a review several times and see what happens), and game sites, like this one...you can get banned for sneezing in a brown-nosing thread.

Also, your pissy rant was just that, a pissy rant. Everyone calls their opinion the truth, doesn't make it so. Try being less pissy and just give an opinion.

Razeekster

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by Adjuvant1

But... Xsyon: Prelude wasn't funded by Kickstarter. If you're referring to Xyson: Apocalypse, it failed to reach it's goal by.. well.. over 96% heh.

I understand it's the same company, same IP, you can argue it's the same game, same deal etc, and that's fine, but even in that event you're mistaken. Saying something "was funded by Kickstarter", when the funding was unsuccessful and no pledges collected, is a mistruth. I'm not defending the game, I don't like the game, I don't play the game, but in this event, you did indeed convey false info.

http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/382040989/xsyon-apocalypse/

That does explain things, and as he was banned for posting misinformation, in this case, about the whole kickstarter thing, then it does kind of put things back into the correct perspective. Having said that, a permaban for that single statement, which in all probability was the result of a genuine mistake on the OP's part, does seem excessive, particularly as they seem to be still in ignorance of the true situation.

Yeah,  I just knew that they had a Kickstarter. I assumed it was successful. Surprise to me, guess people are smarter than I give them credit for. 

Jemcrystal

I had a entire thread on who's been banned and why did you get the boot.

 

I told everyone Steam was a monopoly when I found out they took sole possession of Skyrim for PC.  Monopoly is synonymous with demonic overlord for you subservient brain tards who grow money and can't give it away fast enough to said overlords.

thekid1

Originally posted by Razeekster

Originally posted by thekid1

I am not really familiar with Steam community, I still use the forums haha.

Banned by whom and from where?

Valve and ALL Steam community pages or just for that particular game?

Just from the Xyson forum by a Xyson dev. Sorry, the title may be misleading now that I think about it (I just naturally assumed people would know what I meant, since this sort of thing isn't very uncommon with Early Access games).

Thanks for the explanation

Nanfoodle

I dont see your point, sorry. Its like coming on this forum and bashing mmorpg.com. They gona do something about it.

Asbo

I bought this game a few years ago and found it to lack what they said it would and i emailed the derv team and complained that they had miss sold it and requested a full refund and had to threaten them with legal action and they finally refunded my money. I followed up with a few other emails telling them they would have issues in the future and as it appears this is the case now on steam. 

Steam are very nasty corporate company based on profit and hide behind their T&C's all the time and I have stopped buying from them as I tried to get a refund from some German space game who's name I will not mention as to this day it's still a pile of S---.

Until someone from government get a grip of steam the consumer will have no rights of protection and the only way to stop that is to stop supporting it full stop then they will sit up and listen. In my opinion Steam is an utter and complete scan and should be closed down.

But due to the traffic it has there is little or no chance of this happening and perma bans will stay in place unless you use legal action to get ban's removed in a court of law you cannot and will not win. I wish you luck OP.

Adjuvant1

See, I would vote NightBandit "LoL". Sometimes I can't control myself.