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Massively Poll CU VS CF

will75will75 Member UncommonPosts: 365

Poll must be wrong, Crowfall has a insane hype rating on here, unless that was just a lead up to the kickstarter with mmorpg.com manipulation? I mean never right? I mean "go live exclusive interviews" etc.. etc.. mmorpg.com never would collude to push a game right?

 

 

http://massivelyop.net/2015/02/25/leaderboard-camelot-unchained-vs-crowfall/

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  • PepeqPepeq Member UncommonPosts: 1,977

    Polls are like assholes...

     

    You get the idea.

     

    The truth will only be known when the game(s) actually ship.  Until then, they don't mean a damn thing.

  • WellzyCWellzyC Member UncommonPosts: 599

     

    CU has the DAOC crowd, which is a massive following.

     

    But yah, polls... meh.

     

    They are extremely different games. They really shouldn't even be compared to be honest.

     

    I think people just like drama.

     

     

    The way mmo's were: Community, Exploration, Character Development, Conquest.

    The way mmo's are now : Cut-Scenes,Cut-Scenes, solo Questing, Cut-Scenes...


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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,875
    They are two games that do take from the same pool of players. Both looking at the same point for development. Im kinda glad I am not a huge fan of what either of them are building because I would hate to see the MMO wanted fail due to timing. For their sakes I hope there is enough room for both games because as a gamer I hate seeing any MMO fail.
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Originally posted by will75

    Poll must be wrong, Crowfall has a insane hype rating on here, unless that was just a lead up to the kickstarter with mmorpg.com manipulation? I mean never right? I mean "go live exclusive interviews" etc.. etc.. mmorpg.com never would collude to push a game right?

    You have very keen observational skills and are very much in-tune with the realities of our world. I have also noticed that postings on the forums ALSO increase dramatically when a game is ramping up to something like a Kickstarter. You're right, though, it's waaaay too coincidental that the community could actually have any impact on these results. It must be an outside source. 

     

    It should be noted, though, that similar propaganda/paranoia posts were made during the KS campaign of CU, and pretty much every other game that anyone cares about. Nevertheless, you're probably right. It's illogical to think that someone could create a system that actually utilizes automated systems and cutting edge concepts like math to generate an arbitrary number with little or no relevance. Thanks for contributing to the Crowfall hype train though. 

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,875
    Originally posted by CrazKanuk
    Originally posted by will75

    Poll must be wrong, Crowfall has a insane hype rating on here, unless that was just a lead up to the kickstarter with mmorpg.com manipulation? I mean never right? I mean "go live exclusive interviews" etc.. etc.. mmorpg.com never would collude to push a game right?

    You have very keen observational skills and are very much in-tune with the realities of our world. I have also noticed that postings on the forums ALSO increase dramatically when a game is ramping up to something like a Kickstarter. You're right, though, it's waaaay too coincidental that the community could actually have any impact on these results. It must be an outside source. 

     

    It should be noted, though, that similar propaganda/paranoia posts were made during the KS campaign of CU, and pretty much every other game that anyone cares about. Nevertheless, you're probably right. It's illogical to think that someone could create a system that actually utilizes automated systems and cutting edge concepts like math to generate an arbitrary number with little or no relevance. Thanks for contributing to the Crowfall hype train though. 

    mmorpg.com is not a bad company. They stay out of posting what they think and leave most of the posting to fans. Even when miss information is posted they stay out of it. The ratings you see here are just from us clicking, more clicks higher rating. When a game releases lots of info or something big is happening, hype numbers go up because we are just clicking. mmorpg.com does not give their feedback on a game till its been out a few months. Before then, they just point at stuff and let us post and reply for the most part. CU and CF have been treated very well here as have most MMOs. Sure then have poked fun at a few things but sometimes you have to or your not human. Case: Like that MMO that it was just filled with 90% naked avatars with boobs way to big. 

  • muffins89muffins89 Member UncommonPosts: 1,585


    Originally posted by will75
    Poll must be wrong, Crowfall has a insane hype rating on here, unless that was just a lead up to the kickstarter with mmorpg.com manipulation? I mean never right? I mean "go live exclusive interviews" etc.. etc.. mmorpg.com never would collude to push a game right?  http://massivelyop.net/2015/02/25/leaderboard-camelot-unchained-vs-crowfall/

    people that are interested in crowfall are hyped. I remember much more hype when CU had it's fundraiser.

  • emotaemota Member UncommonPosts: 413
    CU has a strong following, that is clear from the polls. A lot stronger than Crowfail, that's to be expected though as CF is fresh out the box.
  • will75will75 Member UncommonPosts: 365

    I've backed both projects.  My beef is with mmorpg.com's manipulation, and i am a bit bitter with how they treated CU people during that kickstarter, in fact. I think they almost removed CU from the game list.. Anyway, it is what it is. More pointless horrible articles from christina gonzalez i guess?

     

    backer proof

  • krevrakrevra Member UncommonPosts: 50

    Crowfall just barely properly revealed itself, but it attracts a very large crowed, CU has been heard of for a while now allowing more and more players to learn about it. Gotta remember not everyone visits MMORPG.com or other gaming sites. Games like CU and Crowfall build its hype slowly since they are more on the niche side of things first by loyalist then be players interested in the type of game followed by casuals later when the game gets enough publicity.

    That being said think Crowfall has alot more of offer then CU and looks great IMO. Very excited for Crowfall and you should help fund the kickstarter if you are interested in it!

  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member EpicPosts: 3,480
    Lol the hype for cf is well and truly arrive and it's the same people who hype every new and shiny lol. Mmorpg will lead it and threads will get closed and the ban numbers will go up. It's the same pattern time and again lol. Two years of Cf hype incoming. I just hope I've got enough bags of popcorn cos it's going to be a long show.




  • PottedPlant22PottedPlant22 Member RarePosts: 800
    Haters gonna hate.
  • MardukkMardukk Member RarePosts: 2,222

    Well for those that like risk vs reward they will have no interest in CU, but be interested in CF.  They just target different game crowds.

     

    Edit:  Also I found the Massively crowd highly anti risk vs reward when talking about games such as Darkfall in the past.  Much less hate on this site.  It could just be that different types of MMO gamer go to the each site...not sure really.

  • dandurindandurin Member UncommonPosts: 498
    Uhh, might it be a factor that Marc Jacobs is a frequent Massively poster and has a heavy presence in that poll thread?
  • ParepinParepin Member UncommonPosts: 257
    It's like Shadowbane vs DAoC all over again!  That is so 10 years ago...
  • JacobinJacobin Member RarePosts: 1,009
    CU has been around for 2+ years now and asked for and received 3x as much funding. DAOC was also a way more popular game than SB.
  • JamesGoblinJamesGoblin Member RarePosts: 1,242
      I am looking forward to both games, but  I very slightly prefer CU, and my vote went there. It isnt anything anti - CF, and based on what I know, I see no reason for that poll to be inaccurate. In fact I would be surprised to see results the other way around.
     W...aaagh?
  • dandurindandurin Member UncommonPosts: 498
    Originally posted by JamesGoblin
      I am looking forward to both games, but  I very slightly prefer CU, and my vote went there. It isnt anything anti - CF, and based on what I know, I see no reason for that poll to be inaccurate. In fact I would be surprised to see results the other way around.

     

    Mark Jacobs posting all over the place has no impact?

  • JamesGoblinJamesGoblin Member RarePosts: 1,242
    Originally posted by dandurin
    Originally posted by JamesGoblin
      I am looking forward to both games, but  I very slightly prefer CU, and my vote went there. It isnt anything anti - CF, and based on what I know, I see no reason for that poll to be inaccurate. In fact I would be surprised to see results the other way around.

     

    Mark Jacobs posting all over the place has no impact?

        It does, and it should. On the other side, the poll was made on the peak of Crowfall hype, which is also supported by Massively. I believe that CF would - for whatever it´s worth - made much less % if the poll was done just a couple of weaks or a month ago.

     

     W...aaagh?
  • PemminPemmin Member UncommonPosts: 623
    im just happy for games that aren't wow clones or pve only snorefests.
  • SojhinSojhin Member UncommonPosts: 226

    The games are different.

    How different are they? CU has strictly RvR realms. There is zero player looting for CU. Crowfall on the other hand should have both an more impact full economy and much more risk vs reward in pvp. The games will have some overlap of playerbase but also there is enough difference in Crowfall that it will be able to draw people who CU will not be able to draw.

    As to the poll I do not put much stock in it and chalk it up to reactionary CU fans.  Case in point is how there has been a fair amount of threads started with the reactionary topics both here at mmorpg and at the Crowfall site (i.e.; "CU is better then CF" type promotions).

     

    At this point I tend to lean towards Crowfall for many reasons that include, graphics, player looting option server sets, item decay, charcter models look imho better, and I like the overall vision of the Crowfall team more.

  • RaquisRaquis Member RarePosts: 1,029
    Originally posted by Pepeq

    Polls are like assholes...

     

    You get the idea.

     

    The truth will only be known when the game(s) actually ship.  Until then, they don't mean a damn thing.

    +1

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