We are talking about voluntary leisure activities. Not just a couple of them, but hundreds to choose from. Instead of just playing with a different type of toy in your near endless toychest, you'd rather collectively complain about how none of the hundred versions of one particular toy are perfectly designed for just you.
Yes, dude... perspective.
If the bulk of toys in that "endless toychest" consist of cheap plastic Made in China Dollar Store kyfe, don't be all shocked and awed if the kiddies be a cryin'.
But the kiddies aren't all crying, just a select group of them is.
This group prefers to play with brown rubber ducks. Most other kids (the overwhelming majority) like yellow rubber ducks, so ofcourse the yellow ducks get made, simply because they sell best.
This prompts the brown rubber duck loving kids to constantly yell "You suck! Your ducks are crap! You are stupidz!" at all the neighbors' kids who enjoy using the yellow ones.
Its more like 1 group of kids who like rubber ducks, and 1 group that likes new fancy paper mache ducks. The paper mache ducks are easier to make, and became super trendy, but don't last more than a few weeks. The old rubber duck kids can't help laughing at the dopes with their fake paper mache ducks and say, "Man it sure will be nice when this trend is over with and we can get ducks again that are actually made to last."
I love you ser. Bingo and spot on
Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!
I think its probably the worst period to be an old, stuck in your ways gamer yes. And yes I include myself in that camp. However as the industry itself goes, there are more games to choose from with many playable for not one cent needed than at any time before. So unless only a certain type of MMO entertains you this is an epic era to be a gamer.
Another person confusing quantity with quality.
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do. Benjamin Franklin
Ya dont see it. Lots of MMOs to pick from new and old. Having a ton of fun in Skyforge beta right now and Im looking forward to seeing in EQN makes a splash this year. Loved WoWs expansion for a few months and just went back to GW2. Not sure where the problem is.
We are talking about voluntary leisure activities. Not just a couple of them, but hundreds to choose from. Instead of just playing with a different type of toy in your near endless toychest, you'd rather collectively complain about how none of the hundred versions of one particular toy are perfectly designed for just you.
Yes, dude... perspective.
If the bulk of toys in that "endless toychest" consist of cheap plastic Made in China Dollar Store kyfe, don't be all shocked and awed if the kiddies be a cryin'.
But the kiddies aren't all crying, just a select group of them is.
This group prefers to play with brown rubber ducks. Most other kids (the overwhelming majority) like yellow rubber ducks, so ofcourse the yellow ducks get made, simply because they sell best.
This prompts the brown rubber duck loving kids to constantly yell "You suck! Your ducks are crap! You are stupidz!" at all the neighbors' kids who enjoy using the yellow ones.
Its more like 1 group of kids who like rubber ducks, and 1 group that likes new fancy paper mache ducks. The paper mache ducks are easier to make, and became super trendy, but don't last more than a few weeks. The old rubber duck kids can't help laughing at the dopes with their fake paper mache ducks and say, "Man it sure will be nice when this trend is over with and we can get ducks again that are actually made to last."
What is this made to last BS. Me and my friends have been playing FFXIV ARR since closed beta. How is that not lasting. It's also not the only game we're playing because we have so many choices. Games back in the day weren't made to last any more than today. There were just too few to choose from back in the day and people didn't have a choice but to stick with the same games. With so many games these days why would someone limit themselves. That's plain ignorant if you ask me.
FFXIV:ARR is a great game for those who enjoy being hamsters in the gear grind wheel.
"What are we doing today Brain? The same as we did yesterday Pinky! Trying to get new shiny gear!"
"We're Pinky, We're Pinky, We're Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain Brain, Brain!"
Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!
We are talking about voluntary leisure activities. Not just a couple of them, but hundreds to choose from. Instead of just playing with a different type of toy in your near endless toychest, you'd rather collectively complain about how none of the hundred versions of one particular toy are perfectly designed for just you.
Yes, dude... perspective.
If the bulk of toys in that "endless toychest" consist of cheap plastic Made in China Dollar Store kyfe, don't be all shocked and awed if the kiddies be a cryin'.
But the kiddies aren't all crying, just a select group of them is.
This group prefers to play with brown rubber ducks. Most other kids (the overwhelming majority) like yellow rubber ducks, so ofcourse the yellow ducks get made, simply because they sell best.
This prompts the brown rubber duck loving kids to constantly yell "You suck! Your ducks are crap! You are stupidz!" at all the neighbors' kids who enjoy using the yellow ones.
Its more like 1 group of kids who like rubber ducks, and 1 group that likes new fancy paper mache ducks. The paper mache ducks are easier to make, and became super trendy, but don't last more than a few weeks. The old rubber duck kids can't help laughing at the dopes with their fake paper mache ducks and say, "Man it sure will be nice when this trend is over with and we can get ducks again that are actually made to last."
Dullahan with the analogy war win!
Well done.
How is using fallacies a "win"? Only on this forum I guess.
You need to stop judging posts purely based on if they coincide with your personal agenda and judge them by their own merits. A fallacy is a fallacy. A logical error is a logical error. Reality doesn't care about personal agendas.
We are talking about voluntary leisure activities. Not just a couple of them, but hundreds to choose from. Instead of just playing with a different type of toy in your near endless toychest, you'd rather collectively complain about how none of the hundred versions of one particular toy are perfectly designed for just you.
Yes, dude... perspective.
If the bulk of toys in that "endless toychest" consist of cheap plastic Made in China Dollar Store kyfe, don't be all shocked and awed if the kiddies be a cryin'.
But the kiddies aren't all crying, just a select group of them is.
This group prefers to play with brown rubber ducks. Most other kids (the overwhelming majority) like yellow rubber ducks, so ofcourse the yellow ducks get made, simply because they sell best.
This prompts the brown rubber duck loving kids to constantly yell "You suck! Your ducks are crap! You are stupidz!" at all the neighbors' kids who enjoy using the yellow ones.
Its more like 1 group of kids who like rubber ducks, and 1 group that likes new fancy paper mache ducks. The paper mache ducks are easier to make, and became super trendy, but don't last more than a few weeks. The old rubber duck kids can't help laughing at the dopes with their fake paper mache ducks and say, "Man it sure will be nice when this trend is over with and we can get ducks again that are actually made to last."
What is this made to last BS. Me and my friends have been playing FFXIV ARR since closed beta. How is that not lasting. It's also not the only game we're playing because we have so many choices. Games back in the day weren't made to last any more than today. There were just too few to choose from back in the day and people didn't have a choice but to stick with the same games. With so many games these days why would someone limit themselves. That's plain ignorant if you ask me.
FFXIV:ARR is a great game for those who enjoy being hamsters in the gear grind wheel.
"What are we doing today Brain? The same as we did yesterday Pinky! Trying to get new shiny gear!"
Oh the arrogance and ignorance, never ceases to amaze me.
We are talking about voluntary leisure activities. Not just a couple of them, but hundreds to choose from. Instead of just playing with a different type of toy in your near endless toychest, you'd rather collectively complain about how none of the hundred versions of one particular toy are perfectly designed for just you.
Yes, dude... perspective.
If the bulk of toys in that "endless toychest" consist of cheap plastic Made in China Dollar Store kyfe, don't be all shocked and awed if the kiddies be a cryin'.
But the kiddies aren't all crying, just a select group of them is.
This group prefers to play with brown rubber ducks. Most other kids (the overwhelming majority) like yellow rubber ducks, so ofcourse the yellow ducks get made, simply because they sell best.
This prompts the brown rubber duck loving kids to constantly yell "You suck! Your ducks are crap! You are stupidz!" at all the neighbors' kids who enjoy using the yellow ones.
Its more like 1 group of kids who like rubber ducks, and 1 group that likes new fancy paper mache ducks. The paper mache ducks are easier to make, and became super trendy, but don't last more than a few weeks. The old rubber duck kids can't help laughing at the dopes with their fake paper mache ducks and say, "Man it sure will be nice when this trend is over with and we can get ducks again that are actually made to last."
Dullahan with the analogy war win!
Well done.
How is using fallacies a "win"? Only on this forum I guess.
You need to stop judging posts purely based on if they coincide with your personal agenda and judge them by their own merits. A fallacy is a fallacy. A logical error is a logical error. Reality doesn't care about personal agendas.
I'm having fun the way I have fun at family reunions. I would rather be playing my own game but hay, free food you know? I like other peoples' ideas I just wish more of mine got center stage. My casserole was better *pouts*.
We are talking about voluntary leisure activities. Not just a couple of them, but hundreds to choose from. Instead of just playing with a different type of toy in your near endless toychest, you'd rather collectively complain about how none of the hundred versions of one particular toy are perfectly designed for just you.
Yes, dude... perspective.
If the bulk of toys in that "endless toychest" consist of cheap plastic Made in China Dollar Store kyfe, don't be all shocked and awed if the kiddies be a cryin'.
But the kiddies aren't all crying, just a select group of them is.
This group prefers to play with brown rubber ducks. Most other kids (the overwhelming majority) like yellow rubber ducks, so ofcourse the yellow ducks get made, simply because they sell best.
This prompts the brown rubber duck loving kids to constantly yell "You suck! Your ducks are crap! You are stupidz!" at all the neighbors' kids who enjoy using the yellow ones.
Its more like 1 group of kids who like rubber ducks, and 1 group that likes new fancy paper mache ducks. The paper mache ducks are easier to make, and became super trendy, but don't last more than a few weeks. The old rubber duck kids can't help laughing at the dopes with their fake paper mache ducks and say, "Man it sure will be nice when this trend is over with and we can get ducks again that are actually made to last."
What is this made to last BS. Me and my friends have been playing FFXIV ARR since closed beta. How is that not lasting. It's also not the only game we're playing because we have so many choices. Games back in the day weren't made to last any more than today. There were just too few to choose from back in the day and people didn't have a choice but to stick with the same games. With so many games these days why would someone limit themselves. That's plain ignorant if you ask me.
FFXIV:ARR is a great game for those who enjoy being hamsters in the gear grind wheel.
"What are we doing today Brain? The same as we did yesterday Pinky! Trying to get new shiny gear!"
Oh the arrogance and ignorance, never ceases to amaze me.
Arrogance and Ignorance of telling the truth? Ever watch one of Yoshida's "Letter From the Producer" video presentations? What's ALWAYS the highlight of each video?
The dungeons and the new gear to grind. Say I'm lying.
ARR is "Fresh New Updated - Smaller World Strawberry Flavored WoW!"
Its nothing more than your typical Fight Club style "Single Serving Mmo solo oriented till endgame trash" that the kids love these days
Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!
We are talking about voluntary leisure activities. Not just a couple of them, but hundreds to choose from. Instead of just playing with a different type of toy in your near endless toychest, you'd rather collectively complain about how none of the hundred versions of one particular toy are perfectly designed for just you.
Yes, dude... perspective.
If the bulk of toys in that "endless toychest" consist of cheap plastic Made in China Dollar Store kyfe, don't be all shocked and awed if the kiddies be a cryin'.
But the kiddies aren't all crying, just a select group of them is.
This group prefers to play with brown rubber ducks. Most other kids (the overwhelming majority) like yellow rubber ducks, so ofcourse the yellow ducks get made, simply because they sell best.
This prompts the brown rubber duck loving kids to constantly yell "You suck! Your ducks are crap! You are stupidz!" at all the neighbors' kids who enjoy using the yellow ones.
Its more like 1 group of kids who like rubber ducks, and 1 group that likes new fancy paper mache ducks. The paper mache ducks are easier to make, and became super trendy, but don't last more than a few weeks. The old rubber duck kids can't help laughing at the dopes with their fake paper mache ducks and say, "Man it sure will be nice when this trend is over with and we can get ducks again that are actually made to last."
What is this made to last BS. Me and my friends have been playing FFXIV ARR since closed beta. How is that not lasting. It's also not the only game we're playing because we have so many choices. Games back in the day weren't made to last any more than today. There were just too few to choose from back in the day and people didn't have a choice but to stick with the same games. With so many games these days why would someone limit themselves. That's plain ignorant if you ask me.
FFXIV:ARR is a great game for those who enjoy being hamsters in the gear grind wheel.
"What are we doing today Brain? The same as we did yesterday Pinky! Trying to get new shiny gear!"
Oh the arrogance and ignorance, never ceases to amaze me.
Arrogance and Ignorance of telling the truth? Ever watch one of Yoshida's "Letter From the Producer" video presentations? What's ALWAYS the highlight of each video?
The dungeons and the new gear to grind. Say I'm lying.
ARR is "Fresh New Updated - Smaller World Strawberry Flavored WoW!"
Its nothing more than your typical Fight Club style "Single Serving Mmo solo oriented till endgame trash" that the kids love these days
More ignorance, please don't pretend to know something as truth when you clearly don't.
We are talking about voluntary leisure activities. Not just a couple of them, but hundreds to choose from. Instead of just playing with a different type of toy in your near endless toychest, you'd rather collectively complain about how none of the hundred versions of one particular toy are perfectly designed for just you.
Yes, dude... perspective.
If the bulk of toys in that "endless toychest" consist of cheap plastic Made in China Dollar Store kyfe, don't be all shocked and awed if the kiddies be a cryin'.
But the kiddies aren't all crying, just a select group of them is.
This group prefers to play with brown rubber ducks. Most other kids (the overwhelming majority) like yellow rubber ducks, so ofcourse the yellow ducks get made, simply because they sell best.
This prompts the brown rubber duck loving kids to constantly yell "You suck! Your ducks are crap! You are stupidz!" at all the neighbors' kids who enjoy using the yellow ones.
Its more like 1 group of kids who like rubber ducks, and 1 group that likes new fancy paper mache ducks. The paper mache ducks are easier to make, and became super trendy, but don't last more than a few weeks. The old rubber duck kids can't help laughing at the dopes with their fake paper mache ducks and say, "Man it sure will be nice when this trend is over with and we can get ducks again that are actually made to last."
What is this made to last BS. Me and my friends have been playing FFXIV ARR since closed beta. How is that not lasting. It's also not the only game we're playing because we have so many choices. Games back in the day weren't made to last any more than today. There were just too few to choose from back in the day and people didn't have a choice but to stick with the same games. With so many games these days why would someone limit themselves. That's plain ignorant if you ask me.
FFXIV:ARR is a great game for those who enjoy being hamsters in the gear grind wheel.
"What are we doing today Brain? The same as we did yesterday Pinky! Trying to get new shiny gear!"
Oh the arrogance and ignorance, never ceases to amaze me.
Arrogance and Ignorance of telling the truth? Ever watch one of Yoshida's "Letter From the Producer" video presentations? What's ALWAYS the highlight of each video?
The dungeons and the new gear to grind. Say I'm lying.
ARR is "Fresh New Updated - Smaller World Strawberry Flavored WoW!"
Its nothing more than your typical Fight Club style "Single Serving Mmo solo oriented till endgame trash" that the kids love these days
More ignorance, please don't pretend to know something as truth when you clearly don't.
A solid rebuttal with facts would make a much better case instead of just flinging around the word ignorance. I played the game since Beta and recently stopped again because of the lack of depth in the world. Offering things like "Gold Saucer" which is nothing but a casino house offers nothing as far as depth. Sorry but FFXIV:ARR in depth is like comparing FFXIII to FFVI, no comparison, and even less comparison when you compare it to the first FFT. So spare me with the "you're" ignorant shaming tactics. I've been playing this series since the NES and Nintendo Power, so I know what I'm talking about, the world design of FFXI makes FFXIV look like one of those paper mache ducks Dullahan was talking about..
So as I've said, its nothing but updated WoW, a good updated WoW but even less world depth - Hell Vanilla WoW's oceans and sea monsters for example.
Now, please refute my points with facts and valid points to counter what I'm saying. Thanks
Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!
Its more like 1 group of kids who like rubber ducks, and 1 group that likes new fancy paper mache ducks. The paper mache ducks are easier to make, and became super trendy, but don't last more than a few weeks. The old rubber duck kids can't help laughing at the dopes with their fake paper mache ducks and say, "Man it sure will be nice when this trend is over with and we can get ducks again that are actually made to last."
Dullahan with the analogy war win!
Well done.
How is using fallacies a "win"? Only on this forum I guess.
You need to stop judging posts purely based on if they coincide with your personal agenda and judge them by their own merits. A fallacy is a fallacy. A logical error is a logical error. Reality doesn't care about personal agendas.
I don't need to do anything you say. This "reality" you speak of is nothing but a mirage emanating from the area between your ears.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
What is this made to last BS. Me and my friends have been playing FFXIV ARR since closed beta. How is that not lasting.
I'm not saying FFXIV is bad, but that is what, 1 year?
Come back in another 10 - 15 years. Then we can discuss long lasting.
Uh...i'm pretty sure playing a game for a year and still going strong is pretty lasting.
A full year.....
For a console game yes a year is a very long time, For a single player game yes a year is an age, Sadly for a decent MMO it is but a twinkle in a devs eye !
Originally posted by NightHaveN Also, there will never be a perfect game, like there is not perfect car or relationship. You have to find what is good enough and accept the few negatives. And at the end you will have fun.
Yes and, for me, older games like Everquest and Everquest II are much closer to fitting this bill than newer MMO's.
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do. Benjamin Franklin
What is this made to last BS. Me and my friends have been playing FFXIV ARR since closed beta. How is that not lasting.
I'm not saying FFXIV is bad, but that is what, 1 year?
Come back in another 10 - 15 years. Then we can discuss long lasting.
Uh...i'm pretty sure playing a game for a year and still going strong is pretty lasting.
A full year.....
For a console game yes a year is a very long time, For a single player game yes a year is an age, Sadly for a decent MMO it is but a twinkle in a devs eye !
rubber ducks...lol
Yes a full year.....lasting to ME.....you going to tell me what i'm feeling is wrong?
What is this made to last BS. Me and my friends have been playing FFXIV ARR since closed beta. How is that not lasting.
I'm not saying FFXIV is bad, but that is what, 1 year?
Come back in another 10 - 15 years. Then we can discuss long lasting.
Uh...i'm pretty sure playing a game for a year and still going strong is pretty lasting.
A full year.....
For a console game yes a year is a very long time, For a single player game yes a year is an age, Sadly for a decent MMO it is but a twinkle in a devs eye !
rubber ducks...lol
Yes a full year.....lasting to ME.....you going to tell me what i'm feeling is wrong?
A year is relatively longish nowadays (sadly) but compared to my 10 years in EVE or say someone's 16 in EQ, a year is seems pretty short.
I hope you can call the game home for many years to come, but you have a ways to go before you can call it what many of us would consider "long lasting" for an MMO.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Nope. Good time for MMOs. Lots of variety to choose from.
I am not "waiting" on any game at the moment. Actually, I detest that phrase. If you are "waiting" for a game, then I'd argue you are not living in the present and are instead putting your life (or ability to have fun) on hold. I always wonder why people write this. I've never waited for a game. I try to keep my expectations realistic and avoid the hype and pre-release information on any upcoming title. I don't get emotionally attached to what a game "could be" or "has the potential for being", as they are all just games in the end and serve as entertainment for me.
That's not to say I am against criticism (far from it). But I am quite happy that I have so many games to choose from (some of which are to my liking).
If you are on of those that like to "wait" for something, I would suggest to try and stop "waiting", but rather try to enjoy the journey. You have one life and any time spent waiting is just wasted time as far as I am concerned.
More players playing than ever? Check. Function of time, and doesn't positively impact me in anyway, so, irrelevent.
More games available than ever? Check. When all the games are bad, this makes no difference. Next.
More variety in setting and style? Check. Incorrect. Before 2004, I had about 10 radically different AAA MMOs to pick from, each filling its own niche. Now, if I want to play a AAA MMO, I have to play a WoW clone or just not play.
More options in payment model? Check. And many of these payment models are leading to games designed to annoy you into paying more. So.
More platforms to choose to play MMOs on? Check. Doesn't impact me at all.
Originally posted by NightHaveN But I think the picture is not bad, instead is actually good. Ten years ago you were able to count the number of MMO with a single hand. And only was either sandbox or themepark.
This is about as far from the truth as you can get.
In 2005, I could name maybe 35 MMOs off the top of my head. But by 2005, most MMOs started to be garbage.
And back in say, 2004, you had a massive number of choices. In MMOs today, if you want a AAA MMORPG, you basically have to play a WoW clone. Only AAA MMO I can think of that isn't a WoW clone is GW2, and that's still a themepark.
Before WoW, there wasn't a "two party system", things weren't that constrained. There were many blendings of sandbox and some themepark elements. There were games for every play style.
The great MMOs of the past don't exist any more for a number of different reasons, or we'd all be playing them.
Just reading this makes it clear you never played MMOs in the past.
More players playing than ever? Check. Function of time, and doesn't positively impact me in anyway, so, irrelevent.
More games available than ever? Check. When all the games are bad, this makes no difference. Next.
More variety in setting and style? Check. Incorrect. Before 2004, I had about 10 radically different AAA MMOs to pick from, each filling its own niche. Now, if I want to play a AAA MMO, I have to play a WoW clone or just not play.
More options in payment model? Check. And many of these payment models are leading to games designed to annoy you into paying more. So.
More platforms to choose to play MMOs on? Check. Doesn't impact me at all.
Yup, sounds terrible.
Nice try.
Just because you aren't happy doesn't mean the MMO genre as a whole is not in a good place.
Nice try!
It's like saying, "oh man, they opened up 13 new restaurants, 10 chains and 3 unique, local "ma and pa" places - but they closed the one old diner I loved to go to. The entire restaurant industry in this town is awful and worthless!"
Does that make sense? Nope.
I'm sorry they closed your favorite restaurant that did things just the way you like them... cry about it, learn to cook, or get over it and move on. If you would rather starve yourself to death in protest - have fun!
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I love you ser. Bingo and spot on
Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!
Another person confusing quantity with quality.
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
Benjamin Franklin
FFXIV:ARR is a great game for those who enjoy being hamsters in the gear grind wheel.
"What are we doing today Brain? The same as we did yesterday Pinky! Trying to get new shiny gear!"
"We're Pinky, We're Pinky, We're Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain Brain, Brain!"
Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!
Uh...i'm pretty sure playing a game for a year and still going strong is pretty lasting.
How is using fallacies a "win"? Only on this forum I guess.
You need to stop judging posts purely based on if they coincide with your personal agenda and judge them by their own merits. A fallacy is a fallacy. A logical error is a logical error. Reality doesn't care about personal agendas.
Oh the arrogance and ignorance, never ceases to amaze me.
LMAO right? Too funny.
8 MB of RAM and 14.4? That was a great system back in the day! Try 300 Baud and 256k of RAM!
Arrogance and Ignorance of telling the truth? Ever watch one of Yoshida's "Letter From the Producer" video presentations? What's ALWAYS the highlight of each video?
The dungeons and the new gear to grind. Say I'm lying.
ARR is "Fresh New Updated - Smaller World Strawberry Flavored WoW!"
Its nothing more than your typical Fight Club style "Single Serving Mmo solo oriented till endgame trash" that the kids love these days
Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!
More ignorance, please don't pretend to know something as truth when you clearly don't.
A solid rebuttal with facts would make a much better case instead of just flinging around the word ignorance. I played the game since Beta and recently stopped again because of the lack of depth in the world. Offering things like "Gold Saucer" which is nothing but a casino house offers nothing as far as depth. Sorry but FFXIV:ARR in depth is like comparing FFXIII to FFVI, no comparison, and even less comparison when you compare it to the first FFT. So spare me with the "you're" ignorant shaming tactics. I've been playing this series since the NES and Nintendo Power, so I know what I'm talking about, the world design of FFXI makes FFXIV look like one of those paper mache ducks Dullahan was talking about..
So as I've said, its nothing but updated WoW, a good updated WoW but even less world depth - Hell Vanilla WoW's oceans and sea monsters for example.
Now, please refute my points with facts and valid points to counter what I'm saying. Thanks
Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!
I don't need to do anything you say. This "reality" you speak of is nothing but a mirage emanating from the area between your ears.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
A full year.....
For a console game yes a year is a very long time, For a single player game yes a year is an age, Sadly for a decent MMO it is but a twinkle in a devs eye !
rubber ducks...lol
I had a Commodore 64 with a cassette tape drive, it had ..... 64K of RAM, hence the name.
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
Benjamin Franklin
Asheron's Call, Ultima Online, Everquest; all > 16 years old, all still online.
Those games are long lasting. FFXIV ARR just launched.
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
Benjamin Franklin
Yes and, for me, older games like Everquest and Everquest II are much closer to fitting this bill than newer MMO's.
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
Benjamin Franklin
Yes a full year.....lasting to ME.....you going to tell me what i'm feeling is wrong?
And....You going to tell me my belief that playing a game more than a year is lasting is wrong?
A year is relatively longish nowadays (sadly) but compared to my 10 years in EVE or say someone's 16 in EQ, a year is seems pretty short.
I hope you can call the game home for many years to come, but you have a ways to go before you can call it what many of us would consider "long lasting" for an MMO.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Nope. Good time for MMOs. Lots of variety to choose from.
I am not "waiting" on any game at the moment. Actually, I detest that phrase. If you are "waiting" for a game, then I'd argue you are not living in the present and are instead putting your life (or ability to have fun) on hold. I always wonder why people write this. I've never waited for a game. I try to keep my expectations realistic and avoid the hype and pre-release information on any upcoming title. I don't get emotionally attached to what a game "could be" or "has the potential for being", as they are all just games in the end and serve as entertainment for me.
That's not to say I am against criticism (far from it). But I am quite happy that I have so many games to choose from (some of which are to my liking).
If you are on of those that like to "wait" for something, I would suggest to try and stop "waiting", but rather try to enjoy the journey. You have one life and any time spent waiting is just wasted time as far as I am concerned.
Nice try.
This is about as far from the truth as you can get.
In 2005, I could name maybe 35 MMOs off the top of my head. But by 2005, most MMOs started to be garbage.
And back in say, 2004, you had a massive number of choices. In MMOs today, if you want a AAA MMORPG, you basically have to play a WoW clone. Only AAA MMO I can think of that isn't a WoW clone is GW2, and that's still a themepark.
Before WoW, there wasn't a "two party system", things weren't that constrained. There were many blendings of sandbox and some themepark elements. There were games for every play style.
The great MMOs of the past don't exist any more for a number of different reasons, or we'd all be playing them.
Just reading this makes it clear you never played MMOs in the past.
Just because you aren't happy doesn't mean the MMO genre as a whole is not in a good place.
Nice try!
It's like saying, "oh man, they opened up 13 new restaurants, 10 chains and 3 unique, local "ma and pa" places - but they closed the one old diner I loved to go to. The entire restaurant industry in this town is awful and worthless!"
Does that make sense? Nope.
I'm sorry they closed your favorite restaurant that did things just the way you like them... cry about it, learn to cook, or get over it and move on. If you would rather starve yourself to death in protest - have fun!