Star Wars: The Old Republic: Bioware Star Wars Games Not Canon

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Kotaku is reporting that Disney has admitted that all of Bioware's Star Wars games fall outside of the official canon for the intellectual property. Anything that is considered the 'extended universe' is now non-canonical to the overall Star Wars story.

Disney had announced several months back that most novels, comics, and video games would be considered part of the unofficial, unvisited part of Star Wars.

Disney further said that the Old Republic part of Star Wars will not be explored in any way. This means that Star Wars: The Old Republic and Knights of the Old Republic are their own stories.

Read the full Q&A blog report at StarWars.com.

Via Kotaku

MMOman101

I guess I just don't care about canon at all.  It is all fiction.  Are we really worried about what fiction is allowed into the fictional universe?

Thane

seriously, half the armor out of the new trailer looks like taken right out of SW: old republic (ignoring the shoulders). ^^

danwest58

Maybe Disney will want to shut SWTOR down call Blizzard to make a SWG 2 that is someone Themepark like SWTOR however is large open world with countless things to do like SWG.  

Or not.  

BarakIII

The Star Wars extended universe has never been considered canonical. That said there were a lot of books and the like that Lucas accepted as part of the Star Wars canon. I think throwing everything out will only lead to confusion. People will start taking it upon themselves to decide what is and is not canon which means none of them really will be because you'll have so many varying opinions. This can only lead to people not taking the IP seriously no matter what the 'official' canon is. Instead of throwing everything out they should have researched carefully and taken the time to thoughtfully choose what should and should not be taken as canon.

orionblack

Originally posted by MMOman101
I guess I just don't care about canon at all.  It is all fiction.  Are we really worried about what fiction is allowed into the fictional universe?

You'd be surprised how many people out there are crying their eyes out over this.......

This was effectively answered the first time out but it would not sink into Old Republic fans heads...I for one am glad this is now answered and we can get on with creating NEW Star Wars lore.

achesoma

I thought a while back LA already confirmed that all SW video games were not official canon.

orionblack

Originally posted by BarakIII
The Star Wars extended universe has never been considered canonical. That said there were a lot of books and the like that Lucas accepted as part of the Star Wars canon. I think throwing everything out will only lead to confusion. People will start taking it upon themselves to decide what is and is not canon which means none of them really will be because you'll have so many varying opinions. This can only lead to people not taking the IP seriously no matter what the 'official' canon is. Instead of throwing everything out they should have researched carefully and taken the time to thoughtfully choose what should and should not be taken as canon.

Ummmm...anything before that was not in the movies,or tv shows is not canon. And I mean everything before Disney bought Lucas out. EVERYTHING that is coming on out after the Disney purchase is canon.

Not really confusing after all.  

And to add , Lucas never considered any of the books or what not canon, only the parts that he decided to use...like the name Coruscant.

BarakIII

Originally posted by orionblack

Originally posted by BarakIII
The Star Wars extended universe has never been considered canonical. That said there were a lot of books and the like that Lucas accepted as part of the Star Wars canon. I think throwing everything out will only lead to confusion. People will start taking it upon themselves to decide what is and is not canon which means none of them really will be because you'll have so many varying opinions. This can only lead to people not taking the IP seriously no matter what the 'official' canon is. Instead of throwing everything out they should have researched carefully and taken the time to thoughtfully choose what should and should not be taken as canon.

Ummmm...anything before that was not in the movies,or tv shows is not canon. And I mean everything before Disney bought Lucas out. EVERYTHING that is coming on out after the Disney purchase is canon.

Not really confusing after all.  

And to add , Lucas never considered any of the books or what not canon, only the parts that he decided to use...like the name Coruscant.

That's not my understanding of the situation before the sale at all. I could of course be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that a number of the Star Wars books were all part of the canon and accepted by Lucas and his companies as such prior to the sale to Disney. If it were otherwise why make a big todo over something that you say was already an established fact? Obviously, they wouldn't.

Sovrath

All I would want is for them to make "midcholrians" not canon.

danwest58

Originally posted by BarakIII

Originally posted by orionblack

Originally posted by BarakIII
The Star Wars extended universe has never been considered canonical. That said there were a lot of books and the like that Lucas accepted as part of the Star Wars canon. I think throwing everything out will only lead to confusion. People will start taking it upon themselves to decide what is and is not canon which means none of them really will be because you'll have so many varying opinions. This can only lead to people not taking the IP seriously no matter what the 'official' canon is. Instead of throwing everything out they should have researched carefully and taken the time to thoughtfully choose what should and should not be taken as canon.

Ummmm...anything before that was not in the movies,or tv shows is not canon. And I mean everything before Disney bought Lucas out. EVERYTHING that is coming on out after the Disney purchase is canon.

Not really confusing after all.  

And to add , Lucas never considered any of the books or what not canon, only the parts that he decided to use...like the name Coruscant.

That's not my understanding of the situation before the sale at all. I could of course be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that a number of the Star Wars books were all part of the canon and accepted by Lucas and his companies as such prior to the sale to Disney. If it were otherwise why make a big todo over something that you say was already an established fact? Obviously, they wouldn't.

From what I heard too is Mr. Lucas signed off on the Star Wars books as well.  Yes it was all before Disney came in.  

 

Lets just hope this done happen.

 

 

whilan

The only thing this does is make it so fans can't say, oh Disney you can't do this because X game says something else happened, as for the official lore, George has seen to it that he'll change something in a movie even after it was already established, so things being canon mean absolutely nothing to George so if something has so little weight as it does with this author.  This may actually be a boon to SWOTR however, this means they can do what they want without being concerned about big ol Disney giving their approval, as this isn't canon therefore can't really conflict with the movies.

Now that doesn't mean they can go crazy because then fans will just reject it, but this should (keyword, should ) allow Bioware even more room to do stuff that wouldn't be possible as it's no longer canon, even allowing it to cross the current lore in place/

 

BarakIII

Originally posted by Sovrath
All I would want is for them to make "midcholrians" not canon.

Now that's something I could agree with. The whole idea was incredibly stupid. The only reason I can think of for Lucas to come up with the idea is to have a somewhat scientific explanation for Jedi and Sith. To which I would say, sometimes a little mystery is a good thing. Certainly a little mystery would be far better than the idea he came up with.

Melecon

Originally posted by BarakIII

Originally posted by orionblack

Originally posted by BarakIII
The Star Wars extended universe has never been considered canonical. That said there were a lot of books and the like that Lucas accepted as part of the Star Wars canon. I think throwing everything out will only lead to confusion. People will start taking it upon themselves to decide what is and is not canon which means none of them really will be because you'll have so many varying opinions. This can only lead to people not taking the IP seriously no matter what the 'official' canon is. Instead of throwing everything out they should have researched carefully and taken the time to thoughtfully choose what should and should not be taken as canon.

Ummmm...anything before that was not in the movies,or tv shows is not canon. And I mean everything before Disney bought Lucas out. EVERYTHING that is coming on out after the Disney purchase is canon.

Not really confusing after all.  

And to add , Lucas never considered any of the books or what not canon, only the parts that he decided to use...like the name Coruscant.

That's not my understanding of the situation before the sale at all. I could of course be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that a number of the Star Wars books were all part of the canon and accepted by Lucas and his companies as such prior to the sale to Disney. If it were otherwise why make a big todo over something that you say was already an established fact? Obviously, they wouldn't.

There were 2 "Universes" George Lucas' and the Extended Universe (this is why it was aptly named). GLU (George Lucas Universe) Was everything that appeared in the Movies and Shows and is officially Canon, as stated by GL himself. In order to go from EU to Official GL needed to use it in the movies or shows. Why the strict rigor around the EU and approvals was things like "Splinter of the Minds Eye" was so contradictory to everything GL was wanting to do. To my knowledge this was originally stated when Wookiee  Armour was released in SWG, and again when there was Wookiee  Jedi running around in the books (both urked GL to no end).

Melecon

Originally posted by BarakIII

Originally posted by orionblack

Originally posted by BarakIII
The Star Wars extended universe has never been considered canonical. That said there were a lot of books and the like that Lucas accepted as part of the Star Wars canon. I think throwing everything out will only lead to confusion. People will start taking it upon themselves to decide what is and is not canon which means none of them really will be because you'll have so many varying opinions. This can only lead to people not taking the IP seriously no matter what the 'official' canon is. Instead of throwing everything out they should have researched carefully and taken the time to thoughtfully choose what should and should not be taken as canon.

Ummmm...anything before that was not in the movies,or tv shows is not canon. And I mean everything before Disney bought Lucas out. EVERYTHING that is coming on out after the Disney purchase is canon.

Not really confusing after all.  

And to add , Lucas never considered any of the books or what not canon, only the parts that he decided to use...like the name Coruscant.

That's not my understanding of the situation before the sale at all. I could of course be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that a number of the Star Wars books were all part of the canon and accepted by Lucas and his companies as such prior to the sale to Disney. If it were otherwise why make a big todo over something that you say was already an established fact? Obviously, they wouldn't.

There were 2 "Universes" George Lucas' and the Extended Universe (this is why it was aptly named). GLU (George Lucas Universe) Was everything that appeared in the Movies and Shows and is officially Canon, as stated by GL himself. In order to go from EU to Official GL needed to use it in the movies or shows. Why the strict rigor around the EU and approvals was things like "Splinter of the Minds Eye" was so contradictory to everything GL was wanting to do. To my knowledge this was originally stated when Wookiee  Armour was released in SWG, and again when there was Wookiee  Jedi running around in the books (both urked GL to no end).

firefly2003

Give it time someone might be able to give you what you want down the road

delta9

It is pretty obvious that SWToR is not canon

Horusra

Thank god Mickey Mouse came out and told us what is canon in Star Wars....I was worried it was getting out of hand.

zerocount

Originally posted by Horusra
Thank god Mickey Mouse came out and told us what is canon in Star Wars....I was worried it was getting out of hand.

lol +1

I mean mickley

!

HighMarshal

That also means that Boba Fett getting out of the Sarlaac is not cannon. The only Boba Fett cannon is that he was a punk and went out like a punk!

 

Sorry to all the people with the serious case of Boba Fettish.

 

observer

Originally posted by MMOman101
I guess I just don't care about canon at all.  It is all fiction.  Are we really worried about what fiction is allowed into the fictional universe?

It's not in important over real life issues, but within the realm of entertainment, some form of canon is needed, otherwise you get fanfic stories that are beyond ridiculous. lol.

Horusra

Far as I am concerned if they applied for a Star Wars license and got it then they are canon.  Fans that just wrote something would have to be accepted and published by....well Mickey Mouse now.

Valentina

lame.

Mangalo

They can fuck right off.

WolfClaws

KOTOR is very rich in story.  How can it NOT be cannon?

 

SWG, Unleashed, Rogue Squadron are not Cannon?/??  Come on Disney!  You did right by pushing the movies into the 21st Century by getting them out there digitally, but this is a step back.

 

I do NOT want to see Goofy as Darth Vader!  Don't eff this up!

 

 

Wuuuuussssaaaaaaa.....  But they have been doing a good job with the IP.

ApexTKM

People shouldnt care what disney/lucasarts thinks what is canon and what is non-canon.

I only care what I think is canon and what isn't canon.

I was never a big fan of the star wars movies because some of the acting, dialogue and script made me facepalm pretty darn hard. 

First off I'm not an SW EU fan, I'm just not a fan of the script direction they are going for SW7 either. if I had control of the script there would be no SW7, the skywalker/chosen one saga will end in SW6 and would conclude in comics/books. I would recategorize SW1-6 under the main category name called SW: Skywalker Saga. Then explore a very different story thats never been really explored in star wars with a really different focus. I understand I might be in the minority here for changing the focus away from the skywalker saga but I'm simply sick of the jedi/sith/republic/empire/rebel/separtists/chosen one stories. 

For example, what about the cops, detectives, and gangs in star wars, what about the vigilantes, what about the common folk etc. They rarely get recognized^^^^^^^^^^. The video game Star Wars 1313 would have been a good shift in focus.