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Open World PvP: Out of the following, which loot system sounds more appealing?
Dauzqul
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Open World PvP: Out of the following, which loot system sounds more appealing?
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Everything.
Never half-ass anything. If you're going to design bad PVP (open world PVP), go all the way.
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It really depends on the value/effort of the items. Dropping nothing is pointless, but dropping everything can lead to people running around in starter gear or naked.
Dropping everything can also be great if it's just a decent penalty but not earth shattering to replace.
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First off, there should be an option to vote against non-consensual open-world PvP.
I like how PoTBS does it: you create enough unrest at a port and it creates a PvP zone. Nobody *has* to go there, so there is no forced PvP. If you do decide to risk it, then if you get sunk, you lose your ship and the enemy can loot some of your cargo, depending on yours and theirs abilities.
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i miss a loot system..
4. Player drops all currency currently not in bank, but no items.
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Look at the question this way. If you create a game with Open World PvP and loot option A, that game will attract players who like that specific set of options. It is unlikely to attract those that like Open World PvP with loot option B, or loot option C, or D, or E, or F. It doesn't matter what that option is.
Polling to determine a consensus isn't any way to develop a game, because the consensus might not be exactly what the developer wants. This means they will lack conviction in developing that particular system. Besides, that consensus is formed from a very inadequate sample of players, and those attitudes are very likely to change over time. And results from a poll are unlikely to represent the market size (or viability) of any specific game niche, nor predict the desirability of that specific set of game options to those who don't share those same set of options as their ideal game.
My suggestion. If this is about how to build a game, build the game the around the mechanics you want to play. That will guarantee that the developer is committed to that game style. Then build the best game you are capable of, and enjoy it. Good luck.
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Where is the option for:
-use the dead character's skin for a belt and his/her skull as a drinking cup.
Yeah thats why we have so many successfully full loot pvp games on the market
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I also wonder how many people that are in favour of a full loot system, would not also complain if in game they were ganked and robbed on a regular basis
as far as open world PVP games go, there is nothing as thrilling (and yes, also frustrating) as full loot drop.
it has the highest highs, and the lowest lows.
i find the idea of dropping only what you have in your bag (keeping all your equipped armor/weapons) alluring. however, while it probably would be fun, it would never be as adrenaline fueled as full loot drop kind of game.it would be hard to balance the fact that this would be a ganker's paradise, as they would be able to wear the best gear/weapons without risking anything with an empty inventory. Still, if well done and thought out, it could be very interesting. this type of game would only work without fast travel, and would require a significant logout timer.
Exactly. I played UO. I've had that happen. Was something that irritated me as a player. Once that wall is broken, the game loses it's fun factor.
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The moment I see one of those games it gets blacklisted immediately. It's pretty obvious the developers intend to milk their players repeatedly for the same items when you look at designs like that.
It was also a large part of why I immediately turned away from Albion Online's founder packs. "Here, look at all the lovely exclusive rewards you're paying for. PS: They can be looted by the first idiot that jumps you."
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I voted NO DROPS.Who wants to have gankers taking items you spent days acquiring ?
Just people who like to pk others
-ever been pk'd while crafting ?
-ever been pk'd one step from entering your front door of your house ?
-ever been pk'd when you are having a conversation with a close friend out in the middle of no where ?
-ever been pk'd by a group using an exploit ?
-ever been pk'd by enemies and "friends" working together to kill you ?
-ever have pk'rs break into your house and wait for you ?
-ever had pk'rs attack female characters....and.......................... ?
Sarcasm right? What full loot PVP games even exist nowadays which can be considered successful?
The list of successful non-full-loot PVP games is way longer than this long list.
So my implication that full-loot PVP is bad seems rather well-grounded in what people generally prefer in their PVP. None of those games involve open world style PVP (where you can be doing one thing and then PVP is thrust upon you -- you're just always PVPing in these games), and the handful that involve looting (taking someone's Battlefield kit) don't take anything away from the dying player.
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I'm afraid that anything between full loot and no loot (options 3 and 4) would be exploited to death. People would do everything to keep their bags empty in PvP, thus killing the whole purpose of looting mechanism.
Another solution would be dropping random items from bags AND bank, but that wouldn't be fun either.