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Suggestions to get more FPS out of my system?

ArchaegeoArchaegeo Member UncommonPosts: 233

I know I don't have a bad system, and I am leaning towards needing a new graphics card, but I wanted some opinions on how to best improve my FPS performance at high graphics settings.

I run games in 1920x1080 format.

The issue is that in some games like Ark (which I know isn't optimized yet) I get about 6-10 fps in high, and same on other games. I do not think Crossfire is being used well, so that is what I am leaning on replacing. 

This isn't about squeaking out 3 more fps by overclocking or such, its about getting games up to 30 fps on what should be a solid system.

System: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.50GHz Quad-Core Unlocked, Z77 Express Chipset, 16GB DDR3, 120GB SSD, 2TB HDD, Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit  

So the CPU is in the top tier on Tom's Hardware and is only beaten by 5-6 cpu's in various test runs, so I think I am safe there.

Graphics: 2x AMD Radeon HD7850 2GB Video Cards in CrossFireX

This is where I think my problem lies as it ranks pretty low if only one card is being used.

So whats my best bet for getting a big jump in fps?

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  • irnbru69irnbru69 Member UncommonPosts: 124

    I take it you run the games you want to play from your SSD? if not then one should. I have not used AMD for a long time so theres no information that I can give to help you sorry.

    If your on intel chip tho, what you can do is use a prog called core unpark, what core unpark does is.. it will enable all your cores at any given time and non of them will be inactive. When your on your desktop some cores are set to parked, when you launch a game its supposed to unpark more cores if and when needed but it does not always work like that. Just need an intel chip for to un park cores.

     

    I bought ARk but got my money back as I dont see my pc running it with over 30fps ever ..... Ark is a game being made for computers over the next couple of years, any pc that has a lower gfx card than a 9 series will struggle so much with this game.

    If you go into the configs for Ark if you know anything about modification of configs you will notice that the every cfg has set options to run or be determined by the gfxcard you have. If you want to alter any of these cfg files then you had better knwo your UE4 engine inside out... I tried to reduce the gfx and even get rid of shadows on Ark nothing seemed to work so I asked for my money back.

    My rig if your wondering is not the best but 750gtx, 8gb ram, intel i5 4440.

     

     

    If im truly being honest, you are falling behind the times with your computer hardware and you should really upgrade or a new pc. There is not a lot you can do im afraid.

     

    PS:

    >>> Type in your start menu "Power", or via control panel power settings, when you are in the power options menu click on Show additional plans, Then select the one that says "High Performance" then close the power options. This will help a little in some games if you dont have it set already but not too much.

     

    EDIT:

    Guys this is the year 2015 any one happy with 30FPS is fine by me, but there is players out there that demand more so please spare me the nonsense.

  • ArchaegeoArchaegeo Member UncommonPosts: 233

    Considering that movies are 24fps, 30fps seems a reasonable goal. 

    Yes, most reasonably priced monitors will cap at 60hz (fps) anyway, so that's not the issue.

    Now I do understand those who want as high as possible in multiplayer situations where the fps takes a drastic hit when the fild gets crowded, if you normally hit 100fps and 30 people on the field show up and drop you to 30fps, you are still golden where the 30 fps guy would be at a slideshow.

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  • ArchaegeoArchaegeo Member UncommonPosts: 233

    Although this site might refute my position quite soundly....

     

     http://testufo.com/#test=framerates

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  • madazzmadazz Member RarePosts: 2,115
    This is an mmo forum. Not tech support.
  • ArchaegeoArchaegeo Member UncommonPosts: 233
    And I want better performance out of my MMO's, what does it hurt you for me to ask this question here?

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  • madazzmadazz Member RarePosts: 2,115
    Well... obviously you have some issues reading. This forum states it's for discussions pertaining to mmorpgs only. That's pretty easy to understand.


    What's worse is there is an actual hardware forum for advice on this exact subject below this very forum.


    Use your brain.
  • ArchaegeoArchaegeo Member UncommonPosts: 233
    Originally posted by madazz
    Well... obviously you have some issues reading. This forum states it's for discussions pertaining to mmorpgs only. That's pretty easy to understand. What's worse is there is an actual hardware forum for advice on this exact subject below this very forum. Use your brain.

    And you should probably call 911 to get whatever has crawled up your butt out that turned you into such a jerk.  Wow.

    If a moderator wants to move this post to a better forum, that would be great.  If others want to provide their advice, that's awesome too.

    If you just need to make hateful comments like madazz, I think Reddit is your place.

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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591

    Your 7850's are on par with a gtx470 even though you have them crossfired, your crossfire will only work with Ark if there is a crossfire profile written for it.

     

    SLI and Crossfire need profiles for individual games written into the driver in order for them to work with said game.

     

    Updating your GPU's to a current single midrange card would make a world of difference. 

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  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383


    Originally posted by laserit
    Your 7850's are on par with a gtx470 even though you have them crossfired, your crossfire will only work with Ark if there is a crossfire profile written for it. SLI and Crossfire need profiles for individual games written into the driver in order for them to work with said game.
     

    This is true - CFX probably isn't doing anything for Ark, and could be causing more problems than it's helping. Try it with CFX disabled (single GPU) - see if that helps any. You can also google around creating custom profiles - a profile for another UE4-based game may well work for ARK.

    Also - ARK is early release, it's not completed software. If that's the only title your having trouble with, then it's more than likely issues with software optimization.

    There is always overclocking. And ensure you have the details/settings set down to something appropriate - getting 10-14FPS when you have everything cranked to MAX MAX is perfectly reasonable. Put everything at minimum (even if it looks ugly) and see what FPS you are getting there.

  • Callidor80Callidor80 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 21

    Yeah, as mentioned before, games that do not have profiles for crossfire do not work well in crossfire. Also never under estimate how much a degraded operating system can mess up your ability to process information quickly. An OS does not remain perfect for all time just because you have never gotten a virus, things go wrong, registries get conflicts and programs dont clean up their crap properly once uninstalled.

    As a gamer I never go more than 6 months without formatting.

  • ArchaegeoArchaegeo Member UncommonPosts: 233

    Yeah,

    I see the problem with more than Ark, its just the straw that broke the camels back.

    I went with a MSI GFX 970, I am hoping to see a phenomenal difference.

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  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,430
    Originally posted by madazz
    This is an mmo forum. Not tech support.

    I think that's why they have a hardware section.  To help people with questions on how they can improve their MMO experience through hardware.  

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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342


    Originally posted by Archaegeo
    And I want better performance out of my MMO's, what does it hurt you for me to ask this question here?

    The point is, it is better to ask at places that specialize on this kind of questions, you get much more competent responses there.

  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,413
    Turn off AA. AA duplicates the back buffer depending on the amount of steps chosen. With lower video memory and higher resolution, this can be a bottleneck. Although for that particular card it should not be an issue.
  • ArchaegeoArchaegeo Member UncommonPosts: 233

    For some reason the MSI GFX 970 broke my computer, it would start up, but only as a VGA driver, and my LAN connection stopped working.

     

    Just cant win for losing.

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  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383

    Ugh sorry to hear that.

  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383


    Originally posted by threefeet
    i run same format, and in last yr have completely upgraded my pc w the exception of the motherboard. ram dbled added an ssd, tripled the gpu, tripled the processor...but i still get abt the same fps in games like wow n gw2. only thing i can think is its the motherboard. i checked and i have maxxed it out, i cant add any more things to it, so it has to be the sata 2 is throttling it, needing sata 3. so i need a new better motherboard. ive done everything else myself, but that is the brains of the operation, im skeered to fix it lol. good luck, maybe look that up.

    It's definitely not a SATA 2 bottleneck.

    It's ~probably~ not a motherboard bottleneck either.

  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,413
    Usually that means your not providing enough power to the GPU. It could also mean that you have to manual delete the old AMD drivers and install the NVidia drivers.
  • 13lake13lake Member UncommonPosts: 719
    Originally posted by Archaegeo

    For some reason the MSI GFX 970 broke my computer, it would start up, but only as a VGA driver, and my LAN connection stopped working.

     

    Just cant win for losing.

    MIght be driver problem, you need download DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) from guru3d and run it in the following way :  

    Boot into safe mode first to use DDU to uninstall any leftover amd drivers.

    And after you've uninstalled leftover amd stuff boot normally and normally uninstall gpu drivers from control panel, then restart your pc into safe mode again and run the DDU utility, and choose to wipe nvidia drivers this time.

    When u restart again and go into windows regularly install fresh nvidia drivers.

     

    Doing this is the only way to be sure all leftover and and nvidia drivers are deleted.

     

    I'd also suggest downloading driver fusion, and going to maintenance > driver family > then select network and deleting you LAN drivers, and reinstall them again, but the newest version directly from the motherboard website.

     

    Oh btw can u tell em what motherboard do you exactly have ?

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