Originally posted by Adjuvant1 I agree with you, Axehilt, but you're not going to win this one. People make games to make money, and the majority of customers... I can't type more that would be palatable. You know what you mean, I know what you mean. It's not going to get better.
When there's one guy who simply doesn't get the game being played by everyone else, who decides to cause a distraction to stop it for attention more or less, it's probably a good idea to assume that's really not the guy to side with.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
FFXIV - 3 jobs, but one is SMN/SCH so they go together. Almost done a 4th.
ArcheAge - 1
Games with characters that are close (more than halfway):
Blade and Soul
Black Desert
ESO (VR2 I think, that VR grind was so hard. So does this count as max or no lol?)
The Secret World
SWTOR
Vindictus
Wildstar
Neverwinter
Yea, so my ratio is better than the OP lol, but still not great. Some of these I didn't hit max though were just temporary games to keep me busy so I don't think it's a big deal I didn't hit cap. I can't commit to every game I try out, finding a guild, etc. Sometimes you just want to play something casually for a bit and that's ok. Some of them though definitely could have been better.
Although things like Blade and Soul and Black Desert obviously I didn't play NA servers since they're not here yet which is the main reason for not hitting cap in those. So if we don't count those, and we don't count ESO, my ratio is pretty good actually lol.
Originally posted by Adjuvant1 I agree with you, Axehilt, but you're not going to win this one. People make games to make money, and the majority of customers... I can't type more that would be palatable. You know what you mean, I know what you mean. It's not going to get better.
When there's one guy who simply doesn't get the game being played by everyone else, who decides to cause a distraction to stop it for attention more or less, it's probably a good idea to assume that's really not the guy to side with.
Well, your opinion is noted, but I'll "side" with the person I feel is correct. It's not a fucking popularity contest. Thanks, though.
Originally posted by Adjuvant1 I agree with you, Axehilt, but you're not going to win this one. People make games to make money, and the majority of customers... I can't type more that would be palatable. You know what you mean, I know what you mean. It's not going to get better.
When there's one guy who simply doesn't get the game being played by everyone else, who decides to cause a distraction to stop it for attention more or less, it's probably a good idea to assume that's really not the guy to side with.
Well, your opinion is noted, but I'll "side" with the person I feel is correct. It's not a fucking popularity contest. Thanks, though.
No not a popularity issue, it's about not being a pain in a$$ just to be a pain in a$$...
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by Adjuvant1 I agree with you, Axehilt, but you're not going to win this one. People make games to make money, and the majority of customers... I can't type more that would be palatable. You know what you mean, I know what you mean. It's not going to get better.
When there's one guy who simply doesn't get the game being played by everyone else, who decides to cause a distraction to stop it for attention more or less, it's probably a good idea to assume that's really not the guy to side with.
Well, your opinion is noted, but I'll "side" with the person I feel is correct. It's not a fucking popularity contest. Thanks, though.
No not a popularity issue, it's about not being a pain in a$$ just to be a pain in a$$...
I don't think he's disagreeing to be a pain. I think he's disagreeing because threads like this have reddit-itis all over them, concepts being altered by people with absolutely no clue, just typing to see themselves type and have someone agree.
Who the hell, any mmorpg player, doesn't know the old adage, how it's a joke to say "I won the game" or "I finished the game". That's like, sacrosanct. It's laughable to even have the conversation because it's like you're the butt of the biggest in-joke, and the worst part is, you're defending the position.
First off...LOL! Distopia is in another Arguefest.
Second...I think I have only reached the end in GW2. Which leaves a whole huge list of MMO's I have not finished. I'm an explorer though. I take my time. And these days I hate the endgame.....cause shouldn't be an "endgame" IMO.
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
When there's one guy who simply doesn't get the game being played by everyone else, who decides to cause a distraction to stop it for attention more or less, it's probably a good idea to assume that's really not the guy to side with.
Logic is not about popularity, but at least one other poster also agreed.
Logic is just about truth. Truth isn't popular and sometimes inconvenient to hear...but it's still truth.
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
DAoC, Asheron's Call 2 (pre Hero patch), WoW, GW1, GW2. Any other mmo I've played I didn't last more than a month and/or the first 30 levels before getting completely bored with the game OR there really wasn't an end to leveling.
My only regret was that I didn't make it to 256 in Asheron's Call. Actually, I never made it past 50, I was always too busy rerolling new builds to try them out (the problem of choice). Oh how I wish there would be an engine upgrade for AC.
Originally posted by Adjuvant1 Originally posted by DistopiaOriginally posted by Adjuvant1Originally posted by DistopiaOriginally posted by Adjuvant1I agree with you, Axehilt, but you're not going to win this one. People make games to make money, and the majority of customers... I can't type more that would be palatable. You know what you mean, I know what you mean. It's not going to get better.
When there's one guy who simply doesn't get the game being played by everyone else, who decides to cause a distraction to stop it for attention more or less, it's probably a good idea to assume that's really not the guy to side with.Well, your opinion is noted, but I'll "side" with the person I feel is correct. It's not a fucking popularity contest. Thanks, though.No not a popularity issue, it's about not being a pain in a$$ just to be a pain in a$$...I don't think he's disagreeing to be a pain. I think he's disagreeing because threads like this have reddit-itis all over them, concepts being altered by people with absolutely no clue, just typing to see themselves type and have someone agree.
Who the hell, any mmorpg player, doesn't know the old adage, how it's a joke to say "I won the game" or "I finished the game". That's like, sacrosanct. It's laughable to even have the conversation because it's like you're the butt of the biggest in-joke, and the worst part is, you're defending the position.
the OP explained in his post what he meant, he meant reached max level. i don't know why you guys have to argue endlessly about it, who fucking cares?
can a thread be made without people whining and trolling?
Originally posted by Adjuvant1I agree with you, Axehilt, but you're not going to win this one. People make games to make money, and the majority of customers... I can't type more that would be palatable. You know what you mean, I know what you mean. It's not going to get better.
When there's one guy who simply doesn't get the game being played by everyone else, who decides to cause a distraction to stop it for attention more or less, it's probably a good idea to assume that's really not the guy to side with.
Well, your opinion is noted, but I'll "side" with the person I feel is correct. It's not a fucking popularity contest. Thanks, though.
No not a popularity issue, it's about not being a pain in a$$ just to be a pain in a$$...
I don't think he's disagreeing to be a pain. I think he's disagreeing because threads like this have reddit-itis all over them, concepts being altered by people with absolutely no clue, just typing to see themselves type and have someone agree.
Who the hell, any mmorpg player, doesn't know the old adage, how it's a joke to say "I won the game" or "I finished the game". That's like, sacrosanct. It's laughable to even have the conversation because it's like you're the butt of the biggest in-joke, and the worst part is, you're defending the position.
the OP explained in his post what he meant, he meant reached max level. i don't know why you guys have to argue endlessly about it, who fucking cares?
can a thread be made without people whining and trolling?
Because some people are here to caustically respond to posts for no other reason, evidenced by several folks who refuse to answer the simple and original question, how many MMO's have you reached max level in, and continue to espouse their "truths" about some topic that wasn't part of the OP's original question.
We get it folks, you can never finish a MMORPG, it should never end, now, once more, if you haven't already, answer the OP's quesiton.
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First off...LOL! Distopia is in another Arguefest.
Second...I think I have only reached the end in GW2. Which leaves a whole huge list of MMO's I have not finished. I'm an explorer though. I take my time. And these days I hate the endgame.....cause shouldn't be an "endgame" IMO.
Do I have a fan?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
First off...LOL! Distopia is in another Arguefest.
Second...I think I have only reached the end in GW2. Which leaves a whole huge list of MMO's I have not finished. I'm an explorer though. I take my time. And these days I hate the endgame.....cause shouldn't be an "endgame" IMO.
Do I have a fan?
Yes you do....a fan of people that argue just to see their words on the innernet
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
Calling max level "completion" is a laughably bad definition.
If you haven't completed a game (done everything) then how can you claim you completed the game?
Why are people so fixated on level? ...many of whom are the same people accusing modern gamers of being fixated on the destination instead of the journey (while they're ironically the ones fixating on one destination (max level) while being blind to the rest of the journey.)
It is a useful definition for what he is trying to achieve.
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what
it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience
because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in
the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you
playing an MMORPG?"
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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If you mean "Did everything there was to do" I'd have to be honest and say none. That's kind of what I want from an MMO anyway. I can honestly say I've never plowed through content in an MMO in order to get to the "endgame". When I started playing MMOs back in 2001 there was THE GAME. That was constituted by leveling, exploring, socializing, PvE, PvP, Raids and participating in all kinds of player driven events. I never viewed the game as "completed". In the end I quit games because my friends had left and I no longer wanted to commit the time to that game.
If you mean played to level cap and participated in the "end game" then I can't really count them out because I've lost track of the games I've played over the years.
To me this looks like another "Today's MMOs suck!" post. However instead of just coming out and saying that, we've asked "have you finished any games lately? No? Well it must be because they suck!"
Personally my gaming is always fun since I stopped waiting for the devs and the game mechanics to make my fun and started doing what I consider fun in game. Works every time and the game is never "complete" when you do that.
YMMV
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When there's one guy who simply doesn't get the game being played by everyone else, who decides to cause a distraction to stop it for attention more or less, it's probably a good idea to assume that's really not the guy to side with.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
EQ1
Daoc
WAR
wow
SWTOR
ESO
Hmm, I've reached level cap in few I think.
WoW - 3 or 4?
Aion - 2
TERA - 5
GW2 - 1
RIFT - 1?
FFXIV - 3 jobs, but one is SMN/SCH so they go together. Almost done a 4th.
ArcheAge - 1
Games with characters that are close (more than halfway):
Blade and Soul
Black Desert
ESO (VR2 I think, that VR grind was so hard. So does this count as max or no lol?)
The Secret World
SWTOR
Vindictus
Wildstar
Neverwinter
Yea, so my ratio is better than the OP lol, but still not great. Some of these I didn't hit max though were just temporary games to keep me busy so I don't think it's a big deal I didn't hit cap. I can't commit to every game I try out, finding a guild, etc. Sometimes you just want to play something casually for a bit and that's ok. Some of them though definitely could have been better.
Although things like Blade and Soul and Black Desert obviously I didn't play NA servers since they're not here yet which is the main reason for not hitting cap in those. So if we don't count those, and we don't count ESO, my ratio is pretty good actually lol.
Well, your opinion is noted, but I'll "side" with the person I feel is correct. It's not a fucking popularity contest. Thanks, though.
No not a popularity issue, it's about not being a pain in a$$ just to be a pain in a$$...
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I don't think he's disagreeing to be a pain. I think he's disagreeing because threads like this have reddit-itis all over them, concepts being altered by people with absolutely no clue, just typing to see themselves type and have someone agree.
Who the hell, any mmorpg player, doesn't know the old adage, how it's a joke to say "I won the game" or "I finished the game". That's like, sacrosanct. It's laughable to even have the conversation because it's like you're the butt of the biggest in-joke, and the worst part is, you're defending the position.
First off...LOL! Distopia is in another Arguefest.
Second...I think I have only reached the end in GW2. Which leaves a whole huge list of MMO's I have not finished. I'm an explorer though. I take my time. And these days I hate the endgame.....cause shouldn't be an "endgame" IMO.
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
I thought the magic of MMOs is that they can´t actually be completed...
Wouldn´t consider any game completed to so far..
Logic is not about popularity, but at least one other poster also agreed.
Logic is just about truth. Truth isn't popular and sometimes inconvenient to hear...but it's still truth.
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
DAoC, Asheron's Call 2 (pre Hero patch), WoW, GW1, GW2. Any other mmo I've played I didn't last more than a month and/or the first 30 levels before getting completely bored with the game OR there really wasn't an end to leveling.
My only regret was that I didn't make it to 256 in Asheron's Call. Actually, I never made it past 50, I was always too busy rerolling new builds to try them out (the problem of choice). Oh how I wish there would be an engine upgrade for AC.
Well, your opinion is noted, but I'll "side" with the person I feel is correct. It's not a fucking popularity contest. Thanks, though.
No not a popularity issue, it's about not being a pain in a$$ just to be a pain in a$$...
I don't think he's disagreeing to be a pain. I think he's disagreeing because threads like this have reddit-itis all over them, concepts being altered by people with absolutely no clue, just typing to see themselves type and have someone agree.
Who the hell, any mmorpg player, doesn't know the old adage, how it's a joke to say "I won the game" or "I finished the game". That's like, sacrosanct. It's laughable to even have the conversation because it's like you're the butt of the biggest in-joke, and the worst part is, you're defending the position.
the OP explained in his post what he meant, he meant reached max level. i don't know why you guys have to argue endlessly about it, who fucking cares?
can a thread be made without people whining and trolling?
Because some people are here to caustically respond to posts for no other reason, evidenced by several folks who refuse to answer the simple and original question, how many MMO's have you reached max level in, and continue to espouse their "truths" about some topic that wasn't part of the OP's original question.
We get it folks, you can never finish a MMORPG, it should never end, now, once more, if you haven't already, answer the OP's quesiton.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Yes you do....a fan of people that argue just to see their words on the innernet
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
Just two.
My first MMO, Earth and Beyond which was hella grind but fun.
And Fallen Earth which was fairly easy actually, but, unfortunately left me wanting more levels. Had to make up for that by making 2 alts.
I probably would have stuck with Voyage Century as well but Snail butchered that game, sadly.
Nothing else I really care enough about at this point.
FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!
It is a useful definition for what he is trying to achieve.
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John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
Useful? How?
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WoW,TSW,SWTOR,GW2,FFXIV & Marvel Heroes(does this one count?)
hmm that's a short list =/
I had fun once, it was terrible.
EQ1 (left game with Dragons of Norrath)
EQ2
WOW (permanently quit w cataclysm)
GW1
played many others but made level cap in these 4
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
If you mean "Did everything there was to do" I'd have to be honest and say none. That's kind of what I want from an MMO anyway. I can honestly say I've never plowed through content in an MMO in order to get to the "endgame". When I started playing MMOs back in 2001 there was THE GAME. That was constituted by leveling, exploring, socializing, PvE, PvP, Raids and participating in all kinds of player driven events. I never viewed the game as "completed". In the end I quit games because my friends had left and I no longer wanted to commit the time to that game.
If you mean played to level cap and participated in the "end game" then I can't really count them out because I've lost track of the games I've played over the years.
To me this looks like another "Today's MMOs suck!" post. However instead of just coming out and saying that, we've asked "have you finished any games lately? No? Well it must be because they suck!"
Personally my gaming is always fun since I stopped waiting for the devs and the game mechanics to make my fun and started doing what I consider fun in game. Works every time and the game is never "complete" when you do that.
YMMV
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Pretty much in order:
- DAOC
- City of Heroes
- Ryzom
- PoTBS
- Vanguard
I never played WoW.
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