ANOTHER thread from rabid SC fans whose only defense of the game/company is "Derek Smart is an ass"?
Seriously you guys, if you're going to argue what he said, you should probably actually argue the points, and not the character of the person saying it.
If you were on a jury, I bet you would blame the victim for being assaulted because "he's a jerk". You don't need to listen to any actual information or legitimate complaints. Just base it all on some kind of ridiculous popularity contest...
How are they going to make the game promised when thier current engines dont support it,
Why do you think their current engine (CryEngine 64 bit) does not support it ?
and they still havent shown anything remotely indicating they have a prototype of an engine actaully capable of handling the promised seemless universe?
I look forward to talk with you about this question after the demo that is planned for GamesCom in 2 weeks, which should especially show the transition between zones in the Star Citizen Universe.
That is the core issue that Mr. Smart originally presented,
You mean THIS core issue ? : "If I cannot do it, no one can !"
but CIG are trying damned hard to make it about everything but that.
Mr. Smart has made his mind up that they simply arent going to be able to deliver, that is his stand. CIG could close this by showing us something to prove they have/understand the tech needed to deliver not just a stand alone flight sim and stand alone FPS, but a seamless integrated product.
That is what they intend to do. And they keep us informed on when they will show it to us. And furthermore they keep us informed on what things are being fixed until then.
It is that simple to close the issue. So why dont they?
Because they - in contrast to The Smart - are busy fixing things before they show it to us. And they are not in the habit of perma-banning journalists for posting bug reports to the company and Steam forums (especially when the journalists encountered 60 Crash-to-desktop events while testing).
That is what you should be wondering about.
I wonder about the expectations of people. They expect a fully functional game after 2,7 years. When the average game development for a Triple-A game takes 4-5 years. Usually longer. And Star Citizen is basically a few Triple A size games rolled into one.
I wonder about the expectations of people. They expect a fully functional game after 2,7 years. When the average game development for a Triple-A game takes 4-5 years. Usually longer. And Star Citizen is basically a few Triple A size games rolled into one.
Have fun
Yeah, it's amazing people have those expectations. What could possibly give them the idea that the game should be ready already?
From the SC Kickstarter page:
The people who pledge for their spaceships will get to test-fly them long before the general public. 12 months in, we will allow the early backers to play the multiplayer space combat Alpha, and then 20-22 months in they will get to play the Star Citizen Beta, adventuring around the huge open galaxy, well before the general public. We are going to limit our alpha slots to 200,000 as we want to stress test the game with real users, but will not be ready for the full load until we have finished Beta.
I wonder about the expectations of people. They expect a fully functional game after 2,7 years. When the average game development for a Triple-A game takes 4-5 years. Usually longer. And Star Citizen is basically a few Triple A size games rolled into one.
Have fun
Yeah, it's amazing people have those expectations. What could possibly give them the idea that the game should be ready already?
From the SC Kickstarter page:
The people who pledge for their spaceships will get to test-fly them long before the general public. 12 months in, we will allow the early backers to play the multiplayer space combat Alpha, and then 20-22 months in they will get to play the Star Citizen Beta, adventuring around the huge open galaxy, well before the general public. We are going to limit our alpha slots to 200,000 as we want to stress test the game with real users, but will not be ready for the full load until we have finished Beta.
"The development of the game started in 2011 with building a demo on a modified version of the CryEngine 3 game engine, later updated to the 4th generation.[3]
Followed the link.
Chris Roberts says (at the end of 2012) "..I have spent the past year putting this together with my money and a few others ....". He is not speaking about 2011, he is speaking about 2012.
Which is consistent with CIG having been founded in April 2012.
The text "The development of the game started in 2011.." comes from the PCGamer author
Yeah, it's amazing people have those expectations. What could possibly give them the idea that the game should be ready already?
From the SC Kickstarter page:
The people who pledge for their spaceships will get to test-fly them long before the general public. 12 months in, we will allow the early backers to play the multiplayer space combat Alpha, and then 20-22 months in they will get to play the Star Citizen Beta, adventuring around the huge open galaxy, well before the general public. We are going to limit our alpha slots to 200,000 as we want to stress test the game with real users, but will not be ready for the full load until we have finished Beta.
Estimated delivery:
A timeline that was outdated in Dec 2012, due to the immense success of the crowdfunding campaign and the extended scope of the project.
And everyone knows it. Certainly CIG told everyone who wanted to hear it since Nov 2012.
Still, the old outdated timeline is still being quoted ad nauseam over 2 years later. Operative word here: OUTDATED.
I wonder if Brad McQuaid had access to a kickstarter for Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, if we'd have a similar online soap opera. Seems like everyone is arguing about 2 developers and their success and failures and forgetting to focus on the key points.
Star Citizen ( The game we need to be talking about )
$85 million in available funds ( As stated by RSI )
Over 4 years in production ( Demo was produced in 2011 )
CIG no longer a small team ( No more excuses for delayed progress )
I don't care about Derek Smart or Chris Roberts. Both have a lack luster history. I'd be more concerned about the progress of Kickstarters most successful game campaign shaping up to be a historical disaster. Exactly how long do you want to wait for the fully featured MMO until its launched? 1 more year? 2 more years? 3? Blizzard worked on Titan for many years before finally scraping it. CCP worked on World of Darkness for 7 years before scraping it.
How much time do you feel is acceptable? That is the only thing that needs to be discussed.
EDIT: Perhaps future kickstarter campaigns should require an "estimated" time of completion. That way this sort of ridiculous drama can be avoided. I mean, despite stretch goals, Star Citizens core system should have already been released. At least according to their KS campaign. Do you believe the core mechanics are finished?
We're in a thread dedicated to Derek Smart's demands. He's just as much a focus as Star Citizen in this thread.
This fight is doomed until Derek is taken out of the equation.
ANOTHER thread from rabid SC fans whose only defense of the game/company is "Derek Smart is an ass"?
Seriously you guys, if you're going to argue what he said, you should probably actually argue the points, and not the character of the person saying it.
If you were on a jury, I bet you would blame the victim for being assaulted because "he's a jerk". You don't need to listen to any actual information or legitimate complaints. Just base it all on some kind of ridiculous popularity contest...
Smart opened himself up to these very valid criticisms by hurling accusations at another game developer, a developer he has personally been a fghtin and a feuden with for over two decades. Now I'm not saying that in doing so he didn't voice some valid concerns, but he went way beyond that deep into rabid speculation and accusation of wrong doing without offering any actual proof. He also went beyond mere criticism and made some base and vicious personal attacks against the game company staff, which I found highly unprofessional and rather childish. So after all that I have to ask, how are we to take the man's words seriously if he doesn't practice what he preaches? And going by the very behavior we are seeing about his own game, he most certainly does not.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
This!
I think Derek Smart WISHES he lived in a glass house at this point. I don't think it's so much that he criticised the game itself. I think it's that he's gone out of his way to bring harm to another developer who is, for all intents and purposes, trying to do something innovative and new. Then he uses cliches like "Well they said it would be 2 years and we're past that now" and other BS like this, where I think that the schedule has been relatively transparent since the KS campaign ended. Also, it seems like they're adhering to their own roadmap fairly well as far as what they plan to implement and in which order, which is actually a good thing.
More than anything else, I think that Derek Smart just feels like he has something to prove, when what he should really be doing is using his time more constructively to add VALUE to his OWN games. Instead, he's content to just ban people haphazardly who try to raise these same or similar VALID concerns with regards to his own games. His time is not best spent on crusading after other companies on behalf of gamers. There are plenty of gamers who do that just fine without his help.
That little speach says it all. They have no clue how to do it. Yet anyways...
They never did. And that has been the gist of my missive. They don't have the tech nor the expertise to build the game as currently pitched. And now, they don't have the money to see it to completion because the $85m is all but gone, and their funding has mostly dried up.
SC White Knights can attack me all they want, but nothing will change the end result. That being, this is going to crash and burn very soon. And with it, take $85m+ with it.
Meanwhile, over in Germany (where they have an office), the attack wagon is in full swing.
Game developers are just human beings who happen to make games for a living. If you want to hold us up to higher standards of conduct, then go ahead ...but don't be surprised if we don't uphold them.
That little speach says it all. They have no clue how to do it. Yet anyways...
They never did. And that has been the gist of my missive. They don't have the tech nor the expertise to build the game as currently pitched. And now, they don't have the money to see it to completion because the $85m is all but gone, and their funding has mostly dried up.
SC White Knights can attack me all they want, but nothing will change the end result. That being, this is going to crash and burn very soon. And with it, take $85m+ with it.
Meanwhile, over in Germany (where they have an office), the attack wagon is in full swing.
Just came from the LOD forum... man you´re really making things up... and worse. You brought the attack wagon all on yourself. Be happy... free PR for you. Posting links to the hot topic regarding the LOD preview from the german magazine "Gamestar" where you post excuse after excuse also is no clever move.
1) Find a PR consultant
2) listen to him... I know that´s something you really don´t like and can´t... but please try hard
I hope people here not only read his linked posts but also the rest and for the best the whole article from Gamestar (there is a subbed video for the non german speakers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCh3q2OpBR4).
In the past (after BC3K) we made assumptions what´s going on with you... and comparing the past to your actual behavior leads i.e. to this:
Oh for the love of all that is holy. NOBODY REALLY GIVES A SHIT...except for those with no life worrying about this.
All my opinions are just that..opinions. If you like my opinions..coolness.If you dont like my opinion....I really dont care. Playing: ESO, WOT, Smite, and Marvel Heroes
I just think it's awfully funny that the SC fanbois continue to vilify Smart and his ilk, whilst they still don't have a game to play.
"Why would I want to loose a religion upon my people? Religions wreck from within - Empires and individuals alike! It's all the same." - God Emperor of Dune
Originally posted by muppetpilot I just think it's awfully funny that the SC fanbois continue to vilify Smart and his ilk, whilst they still don't have a game to play.
Yes let´s play Line of Defense! In production since 2011 and still in an awful state... while Mr. Smart insists it will be finished end of year.
For me it started without SC but with Mr. Smarts effort to discredit this project that is quite ambitious. As I know him from the past I could see the paralells between then and now. He dished the dirt back in the days (that was ugly) and now he tries it again. Hoped he became wiser after all these years... he hasn´t even a bit.
So I made my own mind up... tried to find the points Mr. Smart mentioned in his (sadly very biased and childish) blogs on his page, looked at SC and wondered what the hell he was talking about when it was quite clear. Grudge...
Mr. Smart was a Snake in a Suit and still is. He criticizes similar projects (did this with Planetside2 and doomed it as he did with SC) and tries to boost his own projects which always were in a much worse state than the produtcs he compared to.
You can bash SC thats ok... but please don´t fall for Mr. Smart.
You wanna know what he thought when trying to discredit Star Citizen? To take over! Would not be the first time... not that he even stands a chance of repeating this stroke of genius.
That little speach says it all. They have no clue how to do it. Yet anyways...
What he says is that it depends on the workload. Which sounds normal to me.
In an instance with a lot of interaction (lots of running about, fighting, munitions and ships flying around, various displays and machines constantly changing etc.) you can have less players in an instance compared to an instance with a few guys sitting in a bar in a landing zone drinking their beer and chatting.
Compare this with EVE. You can have 2500 players constantly interacting in the marketing hub Jita (which is one strengthened server node) without time dilation. But you cannot run a 2500 player battle on a single server in EVE without time dilation (=reduction of network traffic, equally for everyone, by "stretching time"). And in EVE Online CCP tried to do it with avatars, walking in station (their own version of FPS). Their system died when 2 (in words : TWO) captains tried to interact with each other in person (in their FPS avatar forms) instead of their ships. CCP stopped their "walking in stations" project.
That little speach says it all. They have no clue how to do it. Yet anyways...
They never did. And that has been the gist of my missive. They don't have the tech nor the expertise to build the game as currently pitched. And now, they don't have the money to see it to completion because the $85m is all but gone, and their funding has mostly dried up.
SC White Knights can attack me all they want, but nothing will change the end result. That being, this is going to crash and burn very soon. And with it, take $85m+ with it.
Meanwhile, over in Germany (where they have an office), the attack wagon is in full swing.
Yes........ you're exactly right..... SC is using all their money to somehow influence the entire world to attack your game. You do understand that sort of statement not only hurts your credibility, but makes you sound no better than a preacher standing on a street corner, yelling at cars as they go by, right? You sound paranoid and unreasonable. Your game is horrible, it's in a brutal state of dis-repair, yet your focus is on someone else's game which you have no control over. It sounds to me like you've given up on your own game at this point. So maybe RSI isn't the one with problems. If that's not the case, then you'd be more focused on fixing the problems with your own game rather than theorizing about how another company is going to fail.
1. You, and your wife, Sandra Roberts (aka Sandi Gardiner), should resign, effective immediately, and relinquish control of this company to an interim CEO.
Who is Derek Smart to demand another company's founders to 'resign' that he has no stake in? In fact, you can argue he'd actually benefit from said company failing. Is anyone still taking this guy seriously at this point? Because, at this point, I'm starting to think he's both being a troll and trying to steal some of Star Citizen's spotlight.
2. Using the same rules you used to refund my pledge, without my asking, you are toimmediately process refunds in the amount of $2,134,374 as per the initial Kickstarter crowd-funding effort for those who request it. Those who want to wait to see the end (my instinct, from what I know now, is telling me that the end is looking a lot like a catastrophic total loss of this project), are welcome to do that.
He's basing this all on 'instinct' or 'gut feeling' when he has proven to have a track record of having no idea on how to create a good game; let alone a fully functional, AAA MMO. His own game was delayed by 3+ years and was in development for what appears to be twice as long as Star Citizen, and he's doing Early Access (you know, asking for pay before the game is complete) on Steam. Not to mention that his game, LoD, is sitting in Mostly Negative.
3. Give backers the opportunity to hire an independent forensics accountant, and an executive producer, to audit the company records, and give an accurate picture of the financial health of the company, and it’s ability to complete, and deliver this project in a timely fashion. I hereby offer to foot the entire costs of this effort. And I will put up to $1m of my own money, in an escrow account of an attorney’s choosing, to be used as-needed for this exercise. I will pay this price to prove that I had every right to seek these answers. So this money can either go toward a good cause (righting this ship), or to attorneys who are most likely to burn it all down anyway.
Here it is, folks. If this happens he'd be the majority stakeholder with the 'biggest' interest. This has hostile takeover written all over it. This man really is a vile, sleezy human being. It'll allow him to have a say in who'd be the CEO taking over; which then allows him to nominate himself.
4. If you ignore this, the more time passes, the more articles that myself, and investigative media write, revealing what we know, the more likely it is that this will end in legal (someone suing someone, and opening the flood gates) action, thereby forcing you all to come to court and answer these questions.
Derek Smart, and investigative media, have no idea where the Star Citizen project is at, where the financial details are at, and neither of them have a right to these details for various, real, business reasons. Here is Derek Smart threatening to sue a company based upon 'instincts' and 'gut feeling', but has no tangible evidence.
He's demonstrated again and again that he doesn't have the ability to properly implement such things as AI, controls (leading to poor UX experience), and handling things such as PR. But, wants to use his gut feelings on a project on the scale of Star Citizen with team members that worked on games that are far better than anything he's done.
He's gone from being a backer with some legitimate concerns to a clear & hostile threat to the project.
the guy is jealous, I cannot call it any other way... the hostility is kind of funny to read and honestly I cannot think of anyway to take this guy seriously.
Though I do agree that there may be some merit in knowing where all the money is going I really dont think anyone can do anything about it unless they make the company public... If I am wrong about this someone please feel free to correct me.
Meanwhile I've started playing Elite seriously and I'm really enjoying it. Found some very lucrative Fed Ex runs and heading towards my first million fast. Some nice ships that I will get to fly soon, buyable in game at not-crazy prices.
Originally posted by muppetpilot I just think it's awfully funny that the SC fanbois continue to vilify Smart and his ilk, whilst they still don't have a game to play.
Yes let´s play Line of Defense! In production since 2011 and still in an awful state... while Mr. Smart insists it will be finished end of year.
For me it started without SC but with Mr. Smarts effort to discredit this project that is quite ambitious. As I know him from the past I could see the paralells between then and now. He dished the dirt back in the days (that was ugly) and now he tries it again. Hoped he became wiser after all these years... he hasn´t even a bit.
So I made my own mind up... tried to find the points Mr. Smart mentioned in his (sadly very biased and childish) blogs on his page, looked at SC and wondered what the hell he was talking about when it was quite clear. Grudge...
Mr. Smart was a Snake in a Suit and still is. He criticizes similar projects (did this with Planetside2 and doomed it as he did with SC) and tries to boost his own projects which always were in a much worse state than the produtcs he compared to.
You can bash SC thats ok... but please don´t fall for Mr. Smart.
You wanna know what he thought when trying to discredit Star Citizen? To take over! Would not be the first time... not that he even stands a chance of repeating this stroke of genius.
I never even knew Line of Defense existed, or who Derek Smart was, until this whole ridiculous argument started. So where you get the idea that I desire to play LoD, or that I am "bashing" SC, is beyond me. Then again, your posts have essentially identified you as an SC fanboi, so where you get any of your ideas is beyond me, really.
I get the idea that Smart may be anti-SC without good reason, and I also get the idea that his games may be dismal failures, so again, I really could not possibly care less about Mr. Smart. However, he is far from the first person to raise concerns about SC.
And again, until you actually have a game to play, your repeated hate-posts about Derek Smart just make you sound silly, along with the rest of the SC fanbois in these forums. Have you logged in to SC lately and recorded any actual gameplay videos? You haven't, have you? So then what basis are you judging Smart's, or anybody else's, concerns on? If SC is a huge success, then Smart and his buddies can just STFU, as far as I am concerned, because as I said earlier, most of us don't give two shits about him or any of the other SC hatemongers. And if SC goes bust, or if Roberts gets busted stealing backers' money, then you and your buddies can STFU.
But AGAIN....since you have NO GAME TO BASE YOUR OPINIONS ON......the "bashing" really makes no sense from either camp, does it?
"Why would I want to loose a religion upon my people? Religions wreck from within - Empires and individuals alike! It's all the same." - God Emperor of Dune
Originally posted by adamlotus75 Meanwhile I've started playing Elite seriously and I'm really enjoying it. Found some very lucrative Fed Ex runs and heading towards my first million fast. Some nice ships that I will get to fly soon, buyable in game at not-crazy prices.
Originally posted by adamlotus75 Meanwhile I've started playing Elite seriously and I'm really enjoying it. Found some very lucrative Fed Ex runs and heading towards my first million fast. Some nice ships that I will get to fly soon, buyable in game at not-crazy prices.
Oh look there are game devs liking each others games or projects That´s more professional... simply even more human and logical.
If Mr. Smart had grown up or lived in a reflective environment, when he wasn´t present, he would act like that. Sadly he goes HIW and acts like a bull in a china shop. LoD gets a heavy backfire in Germany. Looks like the matadors are alerted.
Maybe I´m over the top but he contradicts himself more and more. It´s not like it´s the 90´s and the internet was a small place wiith usenet and irc (do people still use ICQ? I don´t know). Contrary to Mr. Smart the internet has grown older and... damn... it´s not wiser but you know what I mean.
He is so cocksure of himself that he, so I believe, will never change his mindset (and in my opinion seek help).
I really hope he falls hard. Not because I want to see him laying there but because it may be the only thing to wake him up.
Originally posted by adamlotus75 Meanwhile I've started playing Elite seriously and I'm really enjoying it. Found some very lucrative Fed Ex runs and heading towards my first million fast. Some nice ships that I will get to fly soon, buyable in game at not-crazy prices.
Oh look there are game devs liking each others games or projects That´s more professional... simply even more human and logical.
If Mr. Smart had grown up or lived in a reflective environment, when he wasn´t present, he would act like that. Sadly he goes HIW and acts like a bull in a china shop. LoD gets a heavy backfire in Germany. Looks like the matadors are alerted.
Maybe I´m over the top but he contradicts himself more and more. It´s not like it´s the 90´s and the internet was a small place wiith usenet and irc (do people still use ICQ? I don´t know). Contrary to Mr. Smart the internet has grown older and... damn... it´s not wiser but you know what I mean.
He is so cocksure of himself that he, so I believe, will never change his mindset (and in my opinion seek help).
I really hope he falls hard. Not because I want to see him laying there but because it may be the only thing to wake him up.
Yeah, but now he has an excuse why LoD is getting bad reviews. You know, because it couldn't be that the game is simply horrible. IMO, Smart did nothing but give journalists a big meaty story of controversy, along with a game that makes him look foolish. If he really wanted to "win" then he should have made sure he had a solid game before bashing SC. At this point, SC will probably release before LoD does.
I just had to feed into the insanity.... I made a post in the Line of Defense MMO forum on Steam; It lasted a few hours before I was permanently banned from the forum and the post was deleted, but I was actually expecting that reaction, and it demonstrates how things get handled by this guy perfectly.
> Originally posted by dsmart: Thanks. We've been taking a lot of flak from people who simply don't understand the process. Or they just want to be mean, and counter-productive.
Really? you make tons of VERY public criticisms of how certain other games have handled their development cycle, then wonder why people ask you to hold yourself to the same standard? Suddenly, they don't understand the process because they are questioning you?
>Ban Reason: no trolling here
Apparently, I'm one of those that "doesn't understand the process" and "wanted to be mean, and counter-productive".
Permabanned!:
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how come i have never played or heard of smarts games intell now i been gaming since atari and pong were out smarts a complete duche from what i see i dont even know of his so called games
how come i have never played or heard of smarts games intell now i been gaming since atari and pong were out smarts a complete duche from what i see i dont even know of his so called games
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ANOTHER thread from rabid SC fans whose only defense of the game/company is "Derek Smart is an ass"?
Seriously you guys, if you're going to argue what he said, you should probably actually argue the points, and not the character of the person saying it.
If you were on a jury, I bet you would blame the victim for being assaulted because "he's a jerk". You don't need to listen to any actual information or legitimate complaints. Just base it all on some kind of ridiculous popularity contest...
Have fun
Yeah, it's amazing people have those expectations. What could possibly give them the idea that the game should be ready already?
From the SC Kickstarter page:
The people who pledge for their spaceships will get to test-fly them long before the general public. 12 months in, we will allow the early backers to play the multiplayer space combat Alpha, and then 20-22 months in they will get to play the Star Citizen Beta, adventuring around the huge open galaxy, well before the general public. We are going to limit our alpha slots to 200,000 as we want to stress test the game with real users, but will not be ready for the full load until we have finished Beta.
Estimated delivery:
Erellion is just doing his job.
I wonder how much was spent on viral marketing?
Followed the link.
Chris Roberts says (at the end of 2012) "..I have spent the past year putting this together with my money and a few others ....". He is not speaking about 2011, he is speaking about 2012.
Which is consistent with CIG having been founded in April 2012.
The text "The development of the game started in 2011.." comes from the PCGamer author
http://www.pcgamer.com/star-citizen-preview-the-open-world-space-sim-of-our-dreams/
So again ... my personal estimate ... 5 years later (2012 --> 2017) it should be finished.
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A timeline that was outdated in Dec 2012, due to the immense success of the crowdfunding campaign and the extended scope of the project.
And everyone knows it. Certainly CIG told everyone who wanted to hear it since Nov 2012.
Still, the old outdated timeline is still being quoted ad nauseam over 2 years later. Operative word here: OUTDATED.
Have fun
We're in a thread dedicated to Derek Smart's demands. He's just as much a focus as Star Citizen in this thread.
This fight is doomed until Derek is taken out of the equation.
This!
I think Derek Smart WISHES he lived in a glass house at this point. I don't think it's so much that he criticised the game itself. I think it's that he's gone out of his way to bring harm to another developer who is, for all intents and purposes, trying to do something innovative and new. Then he uses cliches like "Well they said it would be 2 years and we're past that now" and other BS like this, where I think that the schedule has been relatively transparent since the KS campaign ended. Also, it seems like they're adhering to their own roadmap fairly well as far as what they plan to implement and in which order, which is actually a good thing.
More than anything else, I think that Derek Smart just feels like he has something to prove, when what he should really be doing is using his time more constructively to add VALUE to his OWN games. Instead, he's content to just ban people haphazardly who try to raise these same or similar VALID concerns with regards to his own games. His time is not best spent on crusading after other companies on behalf of gamers. There are plenty of gamers who do that just fine without his help.
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That little speach says it all. They have no clue how to do it. Yet anyways...
They never did. And that has been the gist of my missive. They don't have the tech nor the expertise to build the game as currently pitched. And now, they don't have the money to see it to completion because the $85m is all but gone, and their funding has mostly dried up.
And in that latest July 20 update, I got him to pretty much admit to feature creep - among other things.
SC White Knights can attack me all they want, but nothing will change the end result. That being, this is going to crash and burn very soon. And with it, take $85m+ with it.
Meanwhile, over in Germany (where they have an office), the attack wagon is in full swing.
Game developers are just human beings who happen to make games for a living.
If you want to hold us up to higher standards of conduct, then go ahead
...but don't be surprised if we don't uphold them.
Just came from the LOD forum... man you´re really making things up... and worse. You brought the attack wagon all on yourself. Be happy... free PR for you. Posting links to the hot topic regarding the LOD preview from the german magazine "Gamestar" where you post excuse after excuse also is no clever move.
1) Find a PR consultant
2) listen to him... I know that´s something you really don´t like and can´t... but please try hard
I hope people here not only read his linked posts but also the rest and for the best the whole article from Gamestar (there is a subbed video for the non german speakers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCh3q2OpBR4).
In the past (after BC3K) we made assumptions what´s going on with you... and comparing the past to your actual behavior leads i.e. to this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/2cq1g7/asking_narcissists_one_simple_question_was/
All my opinions are just that..opinions. If you like my opinions..coolness.If you dont like my opinion....I really dont care.
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"Why would I want to loose a religion upon my people? Religions wreck from within - Empires and individuals alike! It's all the same." - God Emperor of Dune
Yes let´s play Line of Defense! In production since 2011 and still in an awful state... while Mr. Smart insists it will be finished end of year.
For me it started without SC but with Mr. Smarts effort to discredit this project that is quite ambitious. As I know him from the past I could see the paralells between then and now. He dished the dirt back in the days (that was ugly) and now he tries it again. Hoped he became wiser after all these years... he hasn´t even a bit.
So I made my own mind up... tried to find the points Mr. Smart mentioned in his (sadly very biased and childish) blogs on his page, looked at SC and wondered what the hell he was talking about when it was quite clear. Grudge...
Mr. Smart was a Snake in a Suit and still is. He criticizes similar projects (did this with Planetside2 and doomed it as he did with SC) and tries to boost his own projects which always were in a much worse state than the produtcs he compared to.
You can bash SC thats ok... but please don´t fall for Mr. Smart.
You wanna know what he thought when trying to discredit Star Citizen? To take over! Would not be the first time... not that he even stands a chance of repeating this stroke of genius.
What he says is that it depends on the workload. Which sounds normal to me.
In an instance with a lot of interaction (lots of running about, fighting, munitions and ships flying around, various displays and machines constantly changing etc.) you can have less players in an instance compared to an instance with a few guys sitting in a bar in a landing zone drinking their beer and chatting.
Compare this with EVE. You can have 2500 players constantly interacting in the marketing hub Jita (which is one strengthened server node) without time dilation. But you cannot run a 2500 player battle on a single server in EVE without time dilation (=reduction of network traffic, equally for everyone, by "stretching time"). And in EVE Online CCP tried to do it with avatars, walking in station (their own version of FPS). Their system died when 2 (in words : TWO) captains tried to interact with each other in person (in their FPS avatar forms) instead of their ships. CCP stopped their "walking in stations" project.
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Yes........ you're exactly right..... SC is using all their money to somehow influence the entire world to attack your game. You do understand that sort of statement not only hurts your credibility, but makes you sound no better than a preacher standing on a street corner, yelling at cars as they go by, right? You sound paranoid and unreasonable. Your game is horrible, it's in a brutal state of dis-repair, yet your focus is on someone else's game which you have no control over. It sounds to me like you've given up on your own game at this point. So maybe RSI isn't the one with problems. If that's not the case, then you'd be more focused on fixing the problems with your own game rather than theorizing about how another company is going to fail.
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the guy is jealous, I cannot call it any other way... the hostility is kind of funny to read and honestly I cannot think of anyway to take this guy seriously.
Though I do agree that there may be some merit in knowing where all the money is going I really dont think anyone can do anything about it unless they make the company public... If I am wrong about this someone please feel free to correct me.
Played: UO, LotR, WoW, SWG, DDO, AoC, EVE, Warhammer, TF2, EQ2, SWTOR, TSW, CSS, KF, L4D, AoW, WoT
Playing: The Secret World until Citadel of Sorcery goes into Alpha testing.
Tired of: Linear quest games, dailies, and dumbed down games
Anticipating:Citadel of Sorcery
I wonder what CR makes of Elite?
I never even knew Line of Defense existed, or who Derek Smart was, until this whole ridiculous argument started. So where you get the idea that I desire to play LoD, or that I am "bashing" SC, is beyond me. Then again, your posts have essentially identified you as an SC fanboi, so where you get any of your ideas is beyond me, really.
I get the idea that Smart may be anti-SC without good reason, and I also get the idea that his games may be dismal failures, so again, I really could not possibly care less about Mr. Smart. However, he is far from the first person to raise concerns about SC.
And again, until you actually have a game to play, your repeated hate-posts about Derek Smart just make you sound silly, along with the rest of the SC fanbois in these forums. Have you logged in to SC lately and recorded any actual gameplay videos? You haven't, have you? So then what basis are you judging Smart's, or anybody else's, concerns on? If SC is a huge success, then Smart and his buddies can just STFU, as far as I am concerned, because as I said earlier, most of us don't give two shits about him or any of the other SC hatemongers. And if SC goes bust, or if Roberts gets busted stealing backers' money, then you and your buddies can STFU.
But AGAIN....since you have NO GAME TO BASE YOUR OPINIONS ON......the "bashing" really makes no sense from either camp, does it?
"Why would I want to loose a religion upon my people? Religions wreck from within - Empires and individuals alike! It's all the same." - God Emperor of Dune
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14384-Congratulations-Elite-Dangerous
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/07/24/braben-on-star-citizen-elite-2-bugs-and-obscene-planet-names/
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Oh look there are game devs liking each others games or projects
That´s more professional... simply even more human and logical.
If Mr. Smart had grown up or lived in a reflective environment, when he wasn´t present, he would act like that. Sadly he goes HIW and acts like a bull in a china shop. LoD gets a heavy backfire in Germany. Looks like the matadors are alerted.
Maybe I´m over the top but he contradicts himself more and more. It´s not like it´s the 90´s and the internet was a small place wiith usenet and irc (do people still use ICQ? I don´t know). Contrary to Mr. Smart the internet has grown older and... damn... it´s not wiser but you know what I mean.
He is so cocksure of himself that he, so I believe, will never change his mindset (and in my opinion seek help).
I really hope he falls hard. Not because I want to see him laying there but because it may be the only thing to wake him up.
Yeah, but now he has an excuse why LoD is getting bad reviews. You know, because it couldn't be that the game is simply horrible. IMO, Smart did nothing but give journalists a big meaty story of controversy, along with a game that makes him look foolish. If he really wanted to "win" then he should have made sure he had a solid game before bashing SC. At this point, SC will probably release before LoD does.
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how come i have never played or heard of smarts games intell now i been gaming since atari and pong were out smarts a complete duche from what i see i dont even know of his so called games
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