Why are people saying Blizzard gave up on mmorpg, they have the most profitable, the most popular mmorpg that exists. When you are number one you don't make anymore because you already beat everyone and are king of the genre. If you don't like wow anymore then too bad for you, it's still the undisputed leader.
If you have the biggest, most profitable mmorpg on the market you would be insane to make another one because it could hurt that title.
To give you an idea of how popular wow is (even now), it's closes competitor in the p2p arena is FFXIV. FFXIV is on pc, ps3, ps4 and mac and has been released worldwide (including on steam) and it's considered a success even though it has never even broken 1 million subscribers. Wow is 15 years old? and is fairly cheap to produce content for compared to 14,and at it's lowest point ever has well over 3 million subscribers.
I don't think for a moment that Blizzard has given up on MMO's, its just that they appear to be something of the perfectionists, if a game doesn't measure up to their fairly rigorous standards, it appears they are prepared to can the whole thing, in that respect Titan is a good example, that they managed to use assets from it to create Overwatch, a massively successful game in its own right, kind of gives you the idea of just how high those standards are. I think personally that Blizzard will eventually release another MMO, and whatever it is, i look forward to seeing it, because when they finally do, its probably going to be huge, it is unlikely to be F2P, it might be B2P, but odds on favourite, i think it will be P2P, because if there is one thing that WoW, FFXIV:ARR, Eve Online, and to some extent SW:TOR have proved, its that if the game is good enough, then people will pay the subscription.
There are indie mmos in development that cover just about the entire gamut of tastes. If someone can't find something among them that interests them, they might as well find a moba or a shooter because this genre will never interest you again.
than i went for some more of GW2, its a good game but you get bored if you play it for long, (since there isnt any real gear progression, pvp seems like moba, but fun one at that)
installed Archeage just to see how empty the servers are and keep my char names ,since Trion is getting desperate by threatening players they will lose char names if they dont log on ,what a laught, unninstalled again couse im too tired to grind 4 Apex and dont have time to race with p2w players
installed Tera Online, got 2nd BiS gear in like 1-2 weeks, went to new new new, top dungeons that were rehashed, and hm, with no new content, got bored unninstalled
decided to play witcher 3, but need to get witcher 2 first, so the world and both games amased me how good they are ,tho they dont last forever unfortunatelly,
installed Wildstar to check out how its going now when its on steam, and saw filled newbie zones, honestly i was having trouble getting the mobs how many new players there are, and the game is a blast, maybe first time while leveling that i am actually having fun, and the world is stunning, once i adapted to the cartoonish graphics, i saw what depth Wildstar offers.. gonna need months for it, and thats a good thing
so.. while im getting excited for possible good mmo's like Crowfall, Camelot, Elyria, SC, EQN, and few others, i wont waste time waiting for possible flops, ill play what grants me fun at this time, and when the future does come ill know if the hype was real.
so.. while im getting excited for possible good mmo's like Crowfall, Camelot, Elyria, SC, EQN, and few others, i wont waste time waiting for possible flops, ill play what grants me fun at this time, and when the future does come ill know if the hype was real.
Don't bother waiting for EQ:Not! it was cancelled weeks ago.
Crowfall? Yawn Star Citizen? Vaporware?? Camelot Unchained? donated to the kickstarter but not going to play Chronicles of Elyria? great for a laugh, how soon will this one die? etc.
There's a lot of upcoming ones.
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Which past mmos would you consider great then? Let me guess, you hated those too. Typical mmo gamers, always looking for the non-existent, "perfect", mmo.
Great, EQ, EQ2 through to Kunark, WoW through to WotLK, Rift vanila. Planeshift showed promise but never delivered there were others and there were some I missed due to work or because I was too busy playing something else.
Many people didn't consider EQ2 great. WoW was also considered too easy by veterans. Rift was laughed at for being the first real WoW clone. Never tried Planeshift. My point is, we shouldn't judge these upcoming mmos too harshly without trying them first.
This is just me but the whole f2p and cash shop thing has killed pretty much any desire for me to even want to play 99% of the MMO's currently out there. I have seen a lot of good "concepts" only to be watered down because they are f2p with cash shop. If they ever decide to make a AAA MMO without either of those, I might reconsider.
I'm just waiting for Mass Effect to become an MMO... and cash shops don't bother me.
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WoW made MMOs a mainstream genre and laid out a blueprint for what works. Every major developer is now following this blueprint because it's safe. I can't blame this for it, but it's surely gotten pretty stale and everyone can feel it. I think sooner of later someone with balls, money, and vision will come through and break the genre out of the funk. Like Elon Musk but for mmos.
In the meantime, I am plenty excited for indie/niche mmos. WoW legacy saga has shown there are multiple niches in the MMO market, and they are not necessarily small. If 100,000 players want a specific MMO and you can make it, you stand to earn some serious cash. An RvR mmo with no raids, or an MMO for raiders where you start out at max level and just do raids, etc, etc. I am perfectly fine with a world not dominated by a single MMO that everyone plays. Variety is good.
Crowfall? Yawn Star Citizen? Vaporware?? Camelot Unchained? donated to the kickstarter but not going to play Chronicles of Elyria? great for a laugh, how soon will this one die? etc.
There's a lot of upcoming ones.
LOL
Which past mmos would you consider great then? Let me guess, you hated those too. Typical mmo gamers, always looking for the non-existent, "perfect", mmo.
Great, EQ, EQ2 through to Kunark, WoW through to WotLK, Rift vanila. Planeshift showed promise but never delivered there were others and there were some I missed due to work or because I was too busy playing something else.
Many people didn't consider EQ2 great. WoW was also considered too easy by veterans. Rift was laughed at for being the first real WoW clone. Never tried Planeshift. My point is, we shouldn't judge these upcoming mmos too harshly without trying them first.
Yep taste is a personal thing. But I know that I won't like Camelot Unchained, but I expect it to be a good game other people like maybe even love. The others on your list I don't think will be delivered or will be bad, subjective opinion of course. Pantheon I am hoping will be good, but I have low expectations, I an not sure it will release and the quality of the product is unknowable at this point.
The only upcoming MMO that I'm even remotely interested in is Soul Worker Online and thats only cause its the closest thing we'll get to a westernized PSO2 which is what I currently play.
ive come to the conclusion i only ever loved one mmorpg and that was vanilla wow , and ive played every AAA mmorpg thats come out since and never stuck with them for longer than a year so im just gonna have to admit that mmorpgs aint my thing, they cant be otherwise id atleast have more than one that i like as there is so many but meh... i liked Rift when it came out and Tera online, and FF14arr , wildstar sucked , swtor was a disappointment, Warhammer was a mess, Aion was a grind fest, Elder scrolls online wasnt "elder scrolls", lord of the rings online was dated, Age of conan was dull ,current wow is a noobfest and so on and so forth.
ye im pretty much done, ive got so many accounts for so many games that i dont use so many i cant even remember the login for half of them.....meh im done
the only game im looking forward to is "i am setsuna" but its not a mmo its JRPG it kinda reminds me of ff7 , i might give albion a go and maybe lost ark when they are released
the only game im looking forward to is "i am setsuna" but its not a mmo its JRPG it kinda reminds me of ff7 , i might give albion a go and maybe lost ark when they are released
Also gonna buy it. Way to few turn based jrpgs in the sea of boring action combat rpgs.
the only game im looking forward to is "i am setsuna" but its not a mmo its JRPG it kinda reminds me of ff7 , i might give albion a go and maybe lost ark when they are released
Really? I immediately think Chrono Trigger. There are so many differences between this and FF7. Only thing I see that is similar is that it's turn based combat. Either way, I can't wait to play it.
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than i went for some more of GW2, its a good game but you get bored if you play it for long, (since there isnt any real gear progression, pvp seems like moba, but fun one at that)
installed Archeage just to see how empty the servers are and keep my char names ,since Trion is getting desperate by threatening players they will lose char names if they dont log on ,what a laught, unninstalled again couse im too tired to grind 4 Apex and dont have time to race with p2w players
installed Tera Online, got 2nd BiS gear in like 1-2 weeks, went to new new new, top dungeons that were rehashed, and hm, with no new content, got bored unninstalled
decided to play witcher 3, but need to get witcher 2 first, so the world and both games amased me how good they are ,tho they dont last forever unfortunatelly,
installed Wildstar to check out how its going now when its on steam, and saw filled newbie zones, honestly i was having trouble getting the mobs how many new players there are,
and the game is a blast, maybe first time while leveling that i am actually having fun, and the world is stunning, once i adapted to the cartoonish graphics, i saw what depth Wildstar offers.. gonna need months for it, and thats a good thing
so.. while im getting excited for possible good mmo's like Crowfall, Camelot, Elyria, SC, EQN, and few others, i wont waste time waiting for possible flops, ill play what grants me fun at this time, and when the future does come ill know if the hype was real.
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In the meantime, I am plenty excited for indie/niche mmos. WoW legacy saga has shown there are multiple niches in the MMO market, and they are not necessarily small. If 100,000 players want a specific MMO and you can make it, you stand to earn some serious cash. An RvR mmo with no raids, or an MMO for raiders where you start out at max level and just do raids, etc, etc. I am perfectly fine with a world not dominated by a single MMO that everyone plays. Variety is good.
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ye im pretty much done, ive got so many accounts for so many games that i dont use so many i cant even remember the login for half of them.....meh im done
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