For those who aren't aware, in 1983 there was a crash in the video games industry. This was largely as a result of a plethora of poorly realised and received game releases that resulted in a loss in consumer confidence. It resulted in the burial of ET in the desert: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_video_game_burial.
I see similarities today. The steam greenlighting system and the likes of Kickstarter result in the release of an awful lot of games of dubious quality. Many popular IPs seem to regularly release lazy sequels or movie tie-ins.
The games industry is booming now, but we all know what inevitably comes after a boom. So is the industry heading towards another crash?
The difference between then and now, is that Video Games has gone beyond being seen as a toy, and we have way more quality games compared to back then when it was a new thing all together.
the main problem is the price keeps going up, which makes people not want to buy games as often as they once would have.
Will doom and gloom threads about video games, developers, or mmorpgs in general have a crash anytime soon?
Why do people feel the need to enter a thread they are not interested in just to post conceited crap like this. If you aren't interested go somewhere else.
Will doom and gloom threads about video games, developers, or mmorpgs in general have a crash anytime soon?
Why do people feel the need to enter a thread they are not interested in just to post conceited crap like this. If you aren't interested go somewhere else.
Hi welcome to the internet. I have every right to post about how ridiculous all these doom and gloom threads about video games, developers and MMORPGs in general are getting. I could take your words and direct them at you . If you dont like my comments on this thread dont read or reply to them.
Will doom and gloom threads about video games, developers, or mmorpgs in general have a crash anytime soon?
Why do people feel the need to enter a thread they are not interested in just to post conceited crap like this. If you aren't interested go somewhere else.
Hi welcome to the internet. I have every right to post about how ridiculous all these doom and gloom threads about video games, developers and MMORPGs in general are getting. I could take your words and direct them at you . If you dont like my comments on this thread dont read or reply to them.
So you came here to troll and derail, glad you cleared that up. Don't let the door hit on the way out.
For those who aren't aware, in 1983 there was a crash in the video games industry. This was largely as a result of a plethora of poorly realised and received game releases that resulted in a loss in consumer confidence. It resulted in the burial of ET in the desert: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_video_game_burial.
I see similarities today. The steam greenlighting system and the likes of Kickstarter result in the release of an awful lot of games of dubious quality. Many popular IPs seem to regularly release lazy sequels or movie tie-ins.
The games industry is booming now, but we all know what inevitably comes after a boom. So is the industry heading towards another crash?
The difference between then and now, is that Video Games has gone beyond being seen as a toy, and we have way more quality games compared to back then when it was a new thing all together.
the main problem is the price keeps going up, which makes people not want to buy games as often as they once would have.
How exactly do you think the price keeps going up? PS3 and XB 360 games were $59, PS4 games and XB1 games are $59. Both XB1 and PS4 give games away for free every month, for example this month Tomb Raider is free on XB1. A lot of PC games are F2P five years ago this wasntt the case. Sorry the price hasnt gone up, granted games offer DLC (some Free) and ingame shops but the base games are not more expensive.
Will doom and gloom threads about video games, developers, or mmorpgs in general have a crash anytime soon?
Why do people feel the need to enter a thread they are not interested in just to post conceited crap like this. If you aren't interested go somewhere else.
Hi welcome to the internet. I have every right to post about how ridiculous all these doom and gloom threads about video games, developers and MMORPGs in general are getting. I could take your words and direct them at you . If you dont like my comments on this thread dont read or reply to them.
So you came here to troll and derail, glad you cleared that up. Don't let the door hit on the way out.
Nope but glad to see you are here try and troll me, and derail this thread by crying about a post you didnt like?
As the tools improve and engines open up, the investment needed in games continues to decrease. The giant mega corporation hundred million dollar game is just a waste of money. The business model is flawed and needs to go away.
Games themselves will start to improve again once this de-corporatization takes hold.
Traditional MMOs are dead and gone, and we should be glad. The classic business model pushed developers to introduce grindy mechanics to keep the players playing for long periods of time. I don't believe that this is a viable strategy anymore. Playing video games online is no longer a novel experience. The future is in games like Star Citizen
The op asks if there will be a crash like 83. Since the market today is massive with millions of happy players, served by a huge number of games producers the answer is no.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
The op asks if there will be a crash like 83. Since the market today is massive with millions of happy players, served by a huge number of games producers the answer is no.
The comparison I was trying to draw to 1983 is that the market is being flooded with sub-par games. Quite obviously the market is different and Atari is not a significant factor.
So back to the question on the table: "is the video games industry heading towards another crash?"
The op asks if there will be a crash like 83. Since the market today is massive with millions of happy players, served by a huge number of games producers the answer is no.
The comparison I was trying to draw to 1983 is that the market is being flooded with sub-par games. Quite obviously the market is different and Atari is not a significant factor.
So back to the question on the table: "is the video games industry heading towards another crash?"
The market has been filled with sub-par games through every generation. BE it the Atari era, the Nintendo Era, the C-64 era, and any era moving forward from there.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I do believe tripple a gaming will crash for sure but there are many reasons why this is happening from both sides.
People are tired of dlc especially crap dlc, People are tired of rushed products, People are tired of the freemium models People are not listening to professional reviews anymore due to scams The developers and there bad reputations
Now costumers are bad to , like entitlement and etc they go to far with it these days, yes it is one thing to speak with your wallet and not support companies who are ripping people off but another to become so demanding that nothing makes you happy and go so far to threaten developers lives and their family.
Then there is pirating but maybe we would not have such pirating if developers stopped releasing trash.
Then you have the konami stuff they literally just banned someones fan art which is pretty unheard of considering it was actually good fan art promoting the game, then you find out about how they treat real developer employees who actually have something to offer as they decline into the mobile markets.
Then you have ea and others who constantly show there greed. There is all different kinds of info out there.
People have been claiming there will be a crash for years. This isn't Atari in the 80s. There will be no crash. Perhaps there will be a decline on shitty devs making shitty games, but there are more people playing video games than ever. Steam just set a concurrent user record of over 10 million. Video game crash? Who the hell comes up with this nonsense. The market is perhaps oversaturated and will correct itself.
The op asks if there will be a crash like 83. Since the market today is massive with millions of happy players, served by a huge number of games producers the answer is no.
The comparison I was trying to draw to 1983 is that the market is being flooded with sub-par games. Quite obviously the market is different and Atari is not a significant factor.
So back to the question on the table: "is the video games industry heading towards another crash?"
Is someone who already likes the Fallout series not going to buy Fallout 4 because there a million garbage games available on steam? How would adding a few trillion more garbage games to steam prevent this person from buying fallout 4? No amount of proliferation of sub-par games is going to affect the industry giants.
Is the music industry going to crash because there are too many small artists that aren't really that good trying to make a living on youtube?
Wait a minute... I hope you're not getting this nonsense from Raph Kosters article about the proliferation of diku muds.
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the main problem is the price keeps going up, which makes people not want to buy games as often as they once would have.
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Hi welcome to the internet. I have every right to post about how ridiculous all these doom and gloom threads about video games, developers and MMORPGs in general are getting. I could take your words and direct them at you . If you dont like my comments on this thread dont read or reply to them.
Games themselves will start to improve again once this de-corporatization takes hold.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
So back to the question on the table: "is the video games industry heading towards another crash?"
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I do believe tripple a gaming will crash for sure but there are many reasons why this is happening from both sides.
People are tired of dlc especially crap dlc,
People are tired of rushed products,
People are tired of the freemium models
People are not listening to professional reviews anymore due to scams
The developers and there bad reputations
Now costumers are bad to , like entitlement and etc they go to far with it these days, yes it is one thing to speak with your wallet and not support companies who are ripping people off but another to become so demanding that nothing makes you happy and go so far to threaten developers lives and their family.
Then there is pirating but maybe we would not have such pirating if developers stopped releasing trash.
Then you have the konami stuff they literally just banned someones fan art which is pretty unheard of considering it was actually good fan art promoting the game, then you find out about how they treat real developer employees who actually have something to offer as they decline into the mobile markets.
Then you have ea and others who constantly show there greed. There is all different kinds of info out there.
Is someone who already likes the Fallout series not going to buy Fallout 4 because there a million garbage games available on steam? How would adding a few trillion more garbage games to steam prevent this person from buying fallout 4? No amount of proliferation of sub-par games is going to affect the industry giants.
Is the music industry going to crash because there are too many small artists that aren't really that good trying to make a living on youtube?
Wait a minute... I hope you're not getting this nonsense from Raph Kosters article about the proliferation of diku muds.