I think D&D 5e is the most played tabletop RPG now. The only stats we have to determine it is the number of active games on Roll20 and sales, of which 5e is ahead in both. The only reason people played Pathfinder is because it was an evolution of the 3.5e ruleset and they really didn't like 4e.
Pathfinder is still selling far more books, just take a look in any RPG shop anywhere. D&D is making a recovery though, 4th ed was a complete failure. Heck, I was in Scandinavias largest RPG store last week, they did have a few copies of the 5th ed players and gamemasters handbooks but they had everything Pathfinder have released the last few years and they aren't the only store like this. The basic handbooks are probably selling somewhat better for D&D right now, but that is because people already own the Pathfinder core book.
D&D can become the largest again, it still have far more popular settings than Pathfinder, if it focus on IPs like Forgotten realms and Dragonlance I think it will climb past Pathfinder in a few years unless Pathfinder can get a new successful world.
Never heard of PFO before, but those video snippets didn't look that impressive.
That is because Pathfinder Online's "Marketing Genius" of a former CEO, Ryan Dancey did not believe the game needed marketing, could not afford marketing or did not want to be bothered with marketing the game.
He was so confident that players would want to play this game he concocted the idea of staggering entry to 2,000 players a month. By this time PFO was supposed to have 18,000 players, they perhaps only missed their goal by 97%.
I hope Paizo realizes that if they are "Resetting the Course", a substantial graphics upgrade along with massive amounts of work on the game play, UI and new player experience are included.
For every one gamer that says they don't care about graphics, there are 10,000 that do.
Paizo has thousands of hardcore fans. If the game included more PVE sandbox elements that match the IP, they would come to the game. Your suggestions also would help tremendously in my opinion. Especially the UI one. The UI is probably one of the worst things about PFO.
Yeah reset is the wrong term to be used here,there will be no resetting of the game.
This is just an effort to finish a game that is not accepted by enough people to say thanks to those who already support it.
I can't see ANY investor jumping in unless there is an incentive to attract NEW players and so far i don't see that and imo we never will.So why would any investor invest in a failed project with no incentive to improve it's player base?
If i was in Lisa's shoes i doubt i would do anything different,try to see if anyone will fork out the money to finish it and pray.However to a gamer looking in from the outside,i have no desire to want to play this game and that is their job as a business,to attract gamer's to play.It is not even about preference in play style it is about ,does the game offer anything to me i haven't already seen before and to that i say nope.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
The title is misleading. PFO isn't resetting anything(though they sure as hell should), they are simply putting it on life support till it dies a slow painful death.
I think D&D 5e is the most played tabletop RPG now. The only stats we have to determine it is the number of active games on Roll20 and sales, of which 5e is ahead in both. The only reason people played Pathfinder is because it was an evolution of the 3.5e ruleset and they really didn't like 4e.
Pathfinder is still selling far more books, just take a look in any RPG shop anywhere. D&D is making a recovery though, 4th ed was a complete failure. Heck, I was in Scandinavias largest RPG store last week, they did have a few copies of the 5th ed players and gamemasters handbooks but they had everything Pathfinder have released the last few years and they aren't the only store like this. The basic handbooks are probably selling somewhat better for D&D right now, but that is because people already own the Pathfinder core book.
D&D can become the largest again, it still have far more popular settings than Pathfinder, if it focus on IPs like Forgotten realms and Dragonlance I think it will climb past Pathfinder in a few years unless Pathfinder can get a new successful world.
You're kidding right? ICV2 has D&D outselling Pathfinder since last fall. The fifth edition is a big hit.
James T. Kirk: All she's got isn't good enough! What else ya got?
Yep... when you give a game designer an IP, and that game designer turns around and says he can't simply design a game that corresponds to the IP; this is it where that ends up.
Holy Cow, someone that I know that browses this site.
i tried this game and many of the other games which use the unity engine that are in development and they all have the same problem and that is they are worst than games that have been out for 5 years. not just visually but in game mechanics too they all had great ideas and promised the world but fail to be better than old mmos that they are there to compete with. paying a subscription to beta test a game this bad was kind of insulting as it is not even as good as 5 year old free to play games.
i tried this game and many of the other games which use the unity engine that are in development and they all have the same problem and that is they are worst than games that have been out for 5 years. not just visually but in game mechanics too they all had great ideas and promised the world but fail to be better than old mmos that they are there to compete with. paying a subscription to beta test a game this bad was kind of insulting as it is not even as good as 5 year old free to play games.
To be fair all the games that came out 5 years ago weren't better then the games 5 years before them....
You're kidding right? ICV2 has D&D outselling Pathfinder since last fall. The fifth edition is a big hit.
Referencing icv2 is like referencing the top voted games section of mmorpg as fact.
Actually no. Sorry. They base their numbers on information given from major retailers, distributors, and the companies themselves. It is quite a bit more accurate than the top-voted games section of mmorpg.com. Nice try though.
James T. Kirk: All she's got isn't good enough! What else ya got?
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This is just an effort to finish a game that is not accepted by enough people to say thanks to those who already support it.
I can't see ANY investor jumping in unless there is an incentive to attract NEW players and so far i don't see that and imo we never will.So why would any investor invest in a failed project with no incentive to improve it's player base?
If i was in Lisa's shoes i doubt i would do anything different,try to see if anyone will fork out the money to finish it and pray.However to a gamer looking in from the outside,i have no desire to want to play this game and that is their job as a business,to attract gamer's to play.It is not even about preference in play style it is about ,does the game offer anything to me i haven't already seen before and to that i say nope.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
James T. Kirk: All she's got isn't good enough! What else ya got?
Actually no. Sorry. They base their numbers on information given from major retailers, distributors, and the companies themselves. It is quite a bit more accurate than the top-voted games section of mmorpg.com. Nice try though.
James T. Kirk: All she's got isn't good enough! What else ya got?