>> Please identify on here where any reference is made to "running servers for the next 10 years or so". >>
We ARE talking about why they continue to raise funds. After stretch goal additions have stopped about a year ago. So providing a link to the stretch goals is relevant ... why ?
You asked for reasons. I gave you a reason. To keep servers and customer support running once the initial development period is over.
I am not sure about you, but i prefer my game servers to be powered by something else than hamsters and tears of haters.
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wow, just wow. Bye, you have wasted too much of my time.
I don't understand why people take these extreme sides of the discussion. No official statement has been released on the state of finances.
The game is clearly still being worked on.
They may be in financial trouble, or they may be completely fine. We simply don't know. As impatient as people may get, I feel we will have to wait and see.
I don't understand why people take these extreme sides of the discussion. No official statement has been released on the state of finances.
The game is clearly still being worked on.
They may be in financial trouble, or they may be completely fine. We simply don't know. As impatient as people may get, I feel we will have to wait and see.
I agree. People have jumped the gun. The accusations may be true or false. My gut (which is meaningless) tells me they are true and there has been a colossal mismanagement of funds, but until the allegations are proved it is meaningless.
Why is this important? It erodes confidence in the developers. It should not aid their demise (if that is the way of things) because apparently the production is covered by the concluded KS campaign. If their projections were correct and $90m covered development, well then a great game will release. If not they have many questions to answer.
But one difference between me and you is my views are not clouded by what someone tells me through a video.
I wonder which video has traumatized you so much that you keep mentioning it in every post....
And which makes you assume everyone else has seen the same videos you have seen.
Have fun
PS: Me ... i watch all kinds of funny Wildstar videos at the moment .... Lets see what kind of race, profession, path would be a nice choice to enter the new F2P Wildstar.
But one difference between me and you is my views are not clouded by what someone tells me through a video.
I wonder which video has traumatized you so much that you keep mentioning it in every post....
And which makes you assume everyone else has seen the same videos you have seen.
Have fun
PS: Me ... i watch all kinds of funny Wildstar videos at the moment .... Lets see what kind of race, profession, path would be a nice choice to enter the new F2P Wildstar.
I haven't seen any videos and i do not need too as i have said in my previous posts i haven't backed the game i don't even like sci fi but i know that is how he speaks to the people must of been mentioned in another thread, just so obvious that your posts are so bias, must come from believing everything a guy tells you in his videos.
But one difference between me and you is my views are not clouded by what someone tells me through a video.
I wonder which video has traumatized you so much that you keep mentioning it in every post....
And which makes you assume everyone else has seen the same videos you have seen.
Have fun
PS: Me ... i watch all kinds of funny Wildstar videos at the moment .... Lets see what kind of race, profession, path would be a nice choice to enter the new F2P Wildstar.
I haven't seen any videos and i do not need too as i have said in my previous posts i haven't backed the game i don't even like sci fi but i know that is how he speaks to the people must of been mentioned in another thread, just so obvious that your posts are so bias, must come from believing everything a guy tells you in his videos.
That is because the person here in question has more credibility than a certain "moron" smart who not once, not twice but 3 times committed hostile take over of game companies, firing founders of the company, taking their money, their game asset and then releasing their game as his own. Now he talks about transparency in business, such nerve!!!
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
Anyone know if there has been any video or audio? If this is "the norm" is it unrealistic to believe that someone has recorded something? I've heard a handful of audio of career ruining audio from politicians in the last year, but why nothing from this?
But one difference between me and you is my views are not clouded by what someone tells me through a video.
I wonder which video has traumatized you so much that you keep mentioning it in every post....
And which makes you assume everyone else has seen the same videos you have seen.
Have fun
PS: Me ... i watch all kinds of funny Wildstar videos at the moment .... Lets see what kind of race, profession, path would be a nice choice to enter the new F2P Wildstar.
I haven't seen any videos and i do not need too as i have said in my previous posts i haven't backed the game i don't even like sci fi but i know that is how he speaks to the people must of been mentioned in another thread, just so obvious that your posts are so bias, must come from believing everything a guy tells you in his videos.
That is because the person here in question has more credibility than a certain "moron" smart who not once, not twice but 3 times committed hostile take over of game companies, firing founders of the company, taking their money, their game asset and then releasing their game as his own. Now he talks about transparency in business, such nerve!!!
But one difference between me and you is my views are not clouded by what someone tells me through a video.
I wonder which video has traumatized you so much that you keep mentioning it in every post....
And which makes you assume everyone else has seen the same videos you have seen.
Have fun
PS: Me ... i watch all kinds of funny Wildstar videos at the moment .... Lets see what kind of race, profession, path would be a nice choice to enter the new F2P Wildstar.
I haven't seen any videos and i do not need too as i have said in my previous posts i haven't backed the game i don't even like sci fi but i know that is how he speaks to the people must of been mentioned in another thread, just so obvious that your posts are so bias, must come from believing everything a guy tells you in his videos.
That is because the person here in question has more credibility than a certain "moron" smart who not once, not twice but 3 times committed hostile take over of game companies, firing founders of the company, taking their money, their game asset and then releasing their game as his own. Now he talks about transparency in business, such nerve!!!
A hostile takeover occurs against a boards approval. Let us take SC as an example, If a publisher were needed and he refused to step aside, would a hostile takeover be "bad" in that situation? No it would serve to remove egos and make a serviceable product profitable. If that takeover were to occur, would Chris survive? Of course not, he has been an impediment through most of development, he would be farmed off straight away.
Anyone know if there has been any video or audio? If this is "the norm" is it unrealistic to believe that someone has recorded something? I've heard a handful of audio of career ruining audio from politicians in the last year, but why nothing from this?
Maybe, just maybe..because all the "credible sources" escapist mentioned in their article are the same people derek "moron" smart is endorsing?
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
But one difference between me and you is my views are not clouded by what someone tells me through a video.
I wonder which video has traumatized you so much that you keep mentioning it in every post....
And which makes you assume everyone else has seen the same videos you have seen.
Have fun
PS: Me ... i watch all kinds of funny Wildstar videos at the moment .... Lets see what kind of race, profession, path would be a nice choice to enter the new F2P Wildstar.
I haven't seen any videos and i do not need too as i have said in my previous posts i haven't backed the game i don't even like sci fi but i know that is how he speaks to the people must of been mentioned in another thread, just so obvious that your posts are so bias, must come from believing everything a guy tells you in his videos.
That is because the person here in question has more credibility than a certain "moron" smart who not once, not twice but 3 times committed hostile take over of game companies, firing founders of the company, taking their money, their game asset and then releasing their game as his own. Now he talks about transparency in business, such nerve!!!
A hostile takeover occurs against a boards approval. Let us take SC as an example, If a publisher were needed and he refused to step aside, would a hostile takeover be "bad" in that situation? No it would serve to remove egos and make a serviceable product profitable. If that takeover were to occur, would Chris survive? Of course not, he has been an impediment through most of development, he would be farmed off straight away.
Yes it will be BAD, no one , absolutely no one has the rights to assets and resources of RSI,CIG and SC. Not Derek "moron" Smart, not government and no, not even the crowdfunding backers. other than RSI and CIG. Let someone take away your life's work and come back to talk about this nonsense that you and your ilk are rampaging on.
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
But one difference between me and you is my views are not clouded by what someone tells me through a video.
I wonder which video has traumatized you so much that you keep mentioning it in every post....
And which makes you assume everyone else has seen the same videos you have seen.
Have fun
PS: Me ... i watch all kinds of funny Wildstar videos at the moment .... Lets see what kind of race, profession, path would be a nice choice to enter the new F2P Wildstar.
I haven't seen any videos and i do not need too as i have said in my previous posts i haven't backed the game i don't even like sci fi but i know that is how he speaks to the people must of been mentioned in another thread, just so obvious that your posts are so bias, must come from believing everything a guy tells you in his videos.
That is because the person here in question has more credibility than a certain "moron" smart who not once, not twice but 3 times committed hostile take over of game companies, firing founders of the company, taking their money, their game asset and then releasing their game as his own. Now he talks about transparency in business, such nerve!!!
A hostile takeover occurs against a boards approval. Let us take SC as an example, If a publisher were needed and he refused to step aside, would a hostile takeover be "bad" in that situation? No it would serve to remove egos and make a serviceable product profitable. If that takeover were to occur, would Chris survive? Of course not, he has been an impediment through most of development, he would be farmed off straight away.
Yes it will be BAD, no one , absolutely no one has the rights to assets and resources of RSI,CIG and SC. Not Derek "moron" Smart, not government and no, not even the backers. Let someone take away your life's work and come back to talk about this nonsense that you and your ilk are rampaging on.
Well, in this instance you are correct for all the wrong reasons. It has not been floated.
But one difference between me and you is my views are not clouded by what someone tells me through a video.
I wonder which video has traumatized you so much that you keep mentioning it in every post....
And which makes you assume everyone else has seen the same videos you have seen.
Have fun
PS: Me ... i watch all kinds of funny Wildstar videos at the moment .... Lets see what kind of race, profession, path would be a nice choice to enter the new F2P Wildstar.
I haven't seen any videos and i do not need too as i have said in my previous posts i haven't backed the game i don't even like sci fi but i know that is how he speaks to the people must of been mentioned in another thread, just so obvious that your posts are so bias, must come from believing everything a guy tells you in his videos.
That is because the person here in question has more credibility than a certain "moron" smart who not once, not twice but 3 times committed hostile take over of game companies, firing founders of the company, taking their money, their game asset and then releasing their game as his own. Now he talks about transparency in business, such nerve!!!
A hostile takeover occurs against a boards approval. Let us take SC as an example, If a publisher were needed and he refused to step aside, would a hostile takeover be "bad" in that situation? No it would serve to remove egos and make a serviceable product profitable. If that takeover were to occur, would Chris survive? Of course not, he has been an impediment through most of development, he would be farmed off straight away.
Yes it will be BAD, no one , absolutely no one has the rights to assets and resources of RSI,CIG and SC. Not Derek "moron" Smart, not government and no, not even the backers. Let someone take away your life's work and come back to talk about this nonsense that you and your ilk are rampaging on.
Well, in this instance you are correct for all the wrong reasons. It has not been floated.
As i have said, go start your own project, get funds from crowdfunding or some other backers and then have it taken away from you by "some kind gate" with accusations from "unnamed credible sources" that you are mishandling money. Then come back here and talk about this nonsense.
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
But one difference between me and you is my views are not clouded by what someone tells me through a video.
I wonder which video has traumatized you so much that you keep mentioning it in every post....
And which makes you assume everyone else has seen the same videos you have seen.
Have fun
PS: Me ... i watch all kinds of funny Wildstar videos at the moment .... Lets see what kind of race, profession, path would be a nice choice to enter the new F2P Wildstar.
I haven't seen any videos and i do not need too as i have said in my previous posts i haven't backed the game i don't even like sci fi but i know that is how he speaks to the people must of been mentioned in another thread, just so obvious that your posts are so bias, must come from believing everything a guy tells you in his videos.
That is because the person here in question has more credibility than a certain "moron" smart who not once, not twice but 3 times committed hostile take over of game companies, firing founders of the company, taking their money, their game asset and then releasing their game as his own. Now he talks about transparency in business, such nerve!!!
A hostile takeover occurs against a boards approval. Let us take SC as an example, If a publisher were needed and he refused to step aside, would a hostile takeover be "bad" in that situation? No it would serve to remove egos and make a serviceable product profitable. If that takeover were to occur, would Chris survive? Of course not, he has been an impediment through most of development, he would be farmed off straight away.
Yes it will be BAD, no one , absolutely no one has the rights to assets and resources of RSI,CIG and SC. Not Derek "moron" Smart, not government and no, not even the backers. Let someone take away your life's work and come back to talk about this nonsense that you and your ilk are rampaging on.
Well, in this instance you are correct for all the wrong reasons. It has not been floated.
As i have said, go start your own project, get funds from crowdfunding or some other backers and then have it taken away from you by "some kind gate" with accusations from "unnamed credible sources" that you are mishandling money. Then come back here and talk about this nonsense.
Please remove emotion from this discussion. It assists no one.
But one difference between me and you is my views are not clouded by what someone tells me through a video.
I wonder which video has traumatized you so much that you keep mentioning it in every post....
And which makes you assume everyone else has seen the same videos you have seen.
Have fun
PS: Me ... i watch all kinds of funny Wildstar videos at the moment .... Lets see what kind of race, profession, path would be a nice choice to enter the new F2P Wildstar.
I haven't seen any videos and i do not need too as i have said in my previous posts i haven't backed the game i don't even like sci fi but i know that is how he speaks to the people must of been mentioned in another thread, just so obvious that your posts are so bias, must come from believing everything a guy tells you in his videos.
That is because the person here in question has more credibility than a certain "moron" smart who not once, not twice but 3 times committed hostile take over of game companies, firing founders of the company, taking their money, their game asset and then releasing their game as his own. Now he talks about transparency in business, such nerve!!!
A hostile takeover occurs against a boards approval. Let us take SC as an example, If a publisher were needed and he refused to step aside, would a hostile takeover be "bad" in that situation? No it would serve to remove egos and make a serviceable product profitable. If that takeover were to occur, would Chris survive? Of course not, he has been an impediment through most of development, he would be farmed off straight away.
Yes it will be BAD, no one , absolutely no one has the rights to assets and resources of RSI,CIG and SC. Not Derek "moron" Smart, not government and no, not even the backers. Let someone take away your life's work and come back to talk about this nonsense that you and your ilk are rampaging on.
Well, in this instance you are correct for all the wrong reasons. It has not been floated.
As i have said, go start your own project, get funds from crowdfunding or some other backers and then have it taken away from you by "some kind gate" with accusations from "unnamed credible sources" that you are mishandling money. Then come back here and talk about this nonsense.
Please remove emotion from this discussion. It assists no one.
Does it hurt? to imagine the scenario where your life's work being taken away by some loud mouth internet troll? Where does it hurt? Please specify, i am going to enjoy the details :proud:
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
It's pretty sad this has gained so much traction......Read the FACTS not some droll coming out of DS or a report released with no real source....look at the post/vids/reports and spend 5Mins on google and read....you will see who the jackass is and you will see who is just starting crap like he always does when hes bored.....if you don't know anything about DS you should really read up on his background and overall character....and the anonymous "ex-employees" can be found on Glassdoor which the site has zero overhead and anyone and I mean anyone can go write a review saying they worked there and the site never checks to see if you did.....if that counts as "speaking" with ex-employees then I need to start working in journalism sounds pretty easy to make shit up and the average joe not only thinks it's true but preaches it.....how sad more the half the people in the post can't do 5 mins of reading on the their own to find the TRUTH...
I do not own SC and don't plan to buy it until full release and have nothing to gain or lose if the game bombs or not
Well, in this instance you are correct for all the wrong reasons. It has not been floated.
As i have said, go start your own project, get funds from crowdfunding or some other backers and then have it taken away from you by "some kind gate" with accusations from "unnamed credible sources" that you are mishandling money. Then come back here and talk about this nonsense.
Please remove emotion from this discussion. It assists no one.
Does it hurt? to imagine the scenario where your life's work being taken away by some loud mouth internet troll? Where does it hurt? Please specify, i am going to enjoy the details :proud:
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In answer to your question. It depends on the scenario. If I were to create something new and unique and then mismanage it to the point it was no longer commercially viable under my control; then I would accept it. If not.., well either way it would hurt.
I am unclear why you are attacking me on this observation?
It's pretty sad this has gained so much traction......Read the FACTS not some droll coming out of DS or a report released with no real source....look at the post/vids/reports and spend 5Mins on google and read....you will see who the jackass is and you will see who is just starting crap like he always does when hes bored.....if you don't know anything about DS you should really read up on his background and overall character....and the anonymous "ex-employees" can be found on Glassdoor which the site has zero overhead and anyone and I mean anyone can go write a review saying they worked there and the site never checks to see if you did.....if that counts as "speaking" with ex-employees then I need to start working in journalism sounds pretty easy to make shit up and the average joe not only thinks it's true but preaches it.....how sad more the half the people in the post can't do 5 mins of reading on the their own to find the TRUTH...
I do not own SC and don't plan to buy it until full release and have nothing to gain or lose if the game bombs or not
Funny how people are saying all these concerns are some other guys idea when people who had donated where voicing these concerns before he started shouting louder.
But over look the fact they have a lot more money than they said it would cost to make the game than before and it's already a year late.
I wish my parents were alive to witness the launching of Star Citizen. When mankind finally realized that virtual games truly are worth fighting over. The countless threads and comment wars that were fought. All the typos that were born to illegitimate mothers. It is certain that only one MMO can rule the Seven Internets, but which side to fight for. Are you an honorable fan? A traitorous bandwagoneer? Or a simple peasant just trying to find a place to call home?
Sorry...
This is what happens when you watch a bunch of GoT episodes and try to entertain yourself on this otherwise redundant discussion.
Why would an impartial observer choose to get involved in such a thread? Surely not hypocrisy or a masturbatory need to elevate themselves above others? That would be crazy.
It's pretty sad this has gained so much traction......Read the FACTS not some droll coming out of DS or a report released with no real source....look at the post/vids/reports and spend 5Mins on google and read....you will see who the jackass is and you will see who is just starting crap like he always does when hes bored.....if you don't know anything about DS you should really read up on his background and overall character....and the anonymous "ex-employees" can be found on Glassdoor which the site has zero overhead and anyone and I mean anyone can go write a review saying they worked there and the site never checks to see if you did.....if that counts as "speaking" with ex-employees then I need to start working in journalism sounds pretty easy to make shit up and the average joe not only thinks it's true but preaches it.....how sad more the half the people in the post can't do 5 mins of reading on the their own to find the TRUTH...
I do not own SC and don't plan to buy it until full release and have nothing to gain or lose if the game bombs or not
Funny how people are saying all these concerns are some other guys idea when people who had donated where voicing these concerns before he started shouting louder.
But over look the fact they have a lot more money than they said it would cost to make the game than before and it's already a year late.
And? It took EAWare Austin 7 years and 250 million $*(excluding marketing cost) to make SWTOR. SC is a project way beyond the scope of SWTOR. A year late? They should make it 2 years because people backed them to get an epic game not a mediocre one.
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
In answer to your question. It depends on the scenario. If I were to create something new and unique and then mismanage it to the point it was no longer commercially viable under my control; then I would accept it. If not.., well either way it would hurt.
I am unclear why you are attacking me on this observation?
Not attacking you, showing you the perspective, and since when SC became commercially nonviable? Can anyone show us statistics or proof on that? Other than the "anonymous reliable sources" who were fired for incompetence? or left because they lack the passion and skill to complete their task?
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The game is clearly still being worked on.
They may be in financial trouble, or they may be completely fine. We simply don't know. As impatient as people may get, I feel we will have to wait and see.
Why is this important? It erodes confidence in the developers. It should not aid their demise (if that is the way of things) because apparently the production is covered by the concluded KS campaign. If their projections were correct and $90m covered development, well then a great game will release. If not they have many questions to answer.
And which makes you assume everyone else has seen the same videos you have seen.
Have fun
PS:
Me ... i watch all kinds of funny Wildstar videos at the moment .... Lets see what kind of race, profession, path would be a nice choice to enter the new F2P Wildstar.
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
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Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
I do not own SC and don't plan to buy it until full release and have nothing to gain or lose if the game bombs or not
In answer to your question. It depends on the scenario. If I were to create something new and unique and then mismanage it to the point it was no longer commercially viable under my control; then I would accept it. If not.., well either way it would hurt.
I am unclear why you are attacking me on this observation?
But over look the fact they have a lot more money than they said it would cost to make the game than before and it's already a year late.
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.