Is end game free too?

ragz45

Curious how free the game is with this transition.  I tried out the SWTOR free to play, and quite enjoyed the game, but once I reached end game the raid content and pvp were too restricted for free to play.  Curious how wildstar compares.  Is any portion of the crafting locked behind a pay wall?  Or equip able gear?

Splattr

Nope. All current content is accessible by free to play players. Raid away. Craft away. Wear whatever you want.

They do have some limits imposed on certain things. For example, you can join guilds and circles, but you are not able to create them yourself. And you are limited to how many postings you have on the commodities exchange and auction house. Of course you can expand these and any other limits through purchases in the cash shop.

Arthasm

From what I saw, it's only cosmetic things.

Garfrost

Gear and content is free in its entirety, the only thing that -might- impact you at end-game is that free players are unable to invite people to guilds/circles. However this can be unlocked through playing if I recall, it is part of the Cosmic Rewards fairly early on.

Elsabolts

How do they plan on making any money and content ?

Herase

Elsabolts said:

How do they plan on making any money and content ?

No idea, but seems they are able to do it regardless. There's been so many new additions since I last played, some of them quite big.

Po_gg

Elsabolts said:

How do they plan on making any money and content ?

From the other war around, like Rift does, through convenience and cosmetic boons instead of restrictions a'la TOR. The difference between free and (ex / ) subbed player is still there, but from the positive side and not as barriers and restrictions.

Playing free is pretty much the same experience as it was, and now there's the option too for the impatient ones for getting "more", in xp or rest xp gain, in gathering and crafting, in cosmetics and titles. It's just convenience, since without them you'll have the same speed everyone had back in the p2p days.
Not to mention, you can get the boons for free, just by playing the game. But, you can get them right away, for some money - I think in the beginning that's how they plan to monetize, on the convenient or impatient folks. For later, I guess we'll see where it goes, when the first bigger game update arrives

splattr said:

For example, you can join guilds and circles, but you are not able to create them yourself. And you are limited to how many postings you have on the commodities exchange and auction house. Of course you can expand these and any other limits through purchases in the cash shop.

Full social access is the second bracket in Cosmic rewards, every former player have that by default, plus everyone who buys a box*, have 1 month sub, buy something from the store, or (for the fully free players) the first time s/he gets a CREDD from the game's exchange.

*ed: not lockbox, I mean game box you still can find a few in stores for a couple bucks, it's a nice deal because unlocks a lot of convenience stuff, gets you some cometics and mounts, and also 1 month sub which is the most useful at leveling, due to the added gain rates.

moonbound

Youll want to check the main forums, there is a bit of an issue with runes right now but that goes for everyone, I wouldnt sweat it much because it sounds like players are pretty upset including vets, it was just a bad change they made with f2p atleast I think, they said they are going to wait and see a little more then maybe work on fixing it. I have not made it to endgame but I am relaying the info from the main boards just so people dont go wasting runes just yet.

gervaise1

Herase said:

Elsabolts said:

How do they plan on making any money and content ?

No idea, but seems they are able to do it regardless. There's been so many new additions since I last played, some of them quite big.

See Po_og's answer.

I would add that having they were not "making money" before the change. Not enough money to recoup the $X over 7 years that NCSoft spent + whatever they paid to buy Carbine and there two years of effort. So they have rolled the dice; spent a little more hoping to at least get something back. Might not work but the extra spend is small compared to what they have already invested.  

Spankster77

Everything is free in Wildstar.  You only pay for quality of life items (i.e. more character slots, XP potions, etc) and vanity items (i.e. mounts, costumes, ect).  This game honestly has one of the most fair F2P models I have seen.  This is nothing like the SW:ToR model where they nickel and dime you to play the game.

makasouleater69

Elsabolts said:

How do they plan on making any money and content ?

Lol, these people.... The cash system is based on a gambling crafting system, and  gambling boxes. Apparently they made the cash shop so well, most of these people don't even under stand how it works, so they will make plenty of money. 
 
Its just another generic cash shop, based on the fact people get urges to get better stuff, and you can do that with the cash shop. It is not direct, where you give them money they give you a super weapon, but it is close, with the crafting system. 

The guy above me mentions SWTOR, it is basically like that but worse. Yeah they wont charge you for hot bars, and hiding your helmet. They 100 percent have swtor gambling boxes, items in there that will make you seriously more powerful then other people, with the crafting rune system, which swtor doesnt have. You can buy everything in the game with real money, just like swtor. 

So here is the difference. A ftp person would take years to get everything, a pay player could get it all within a couple of weeks. 

As for new content they plan on charging for DLC, and new expansions.

Spankster77

Instead of listening to the hearsay above, here is the link to the difference between F2P and Subs.

http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/news/2015-05-28-wildstar-is-going-free-to-play-heres-all-you-need-to-know/

Moxom914

makasouleater69 said:

Elsabolts said:

How do they plan on making any money and content ?

Lol, these people.... The cash system is based on a gambling crafting system, and  gambling boxes. Apparently they made the cash shop so well, most of these people don't even under stand how it works, so they will make plenty of money. 
 
Its just another generic cash shop, based on the fact people get urges to get better stuff, and you can do that with the cash shop. It is not direct, where you give them money they give you a super weapon, but it is close, with the crafting system. 

The guy above me mentions SWTOR, it is basically like that but worse. Yeah they wont charge you for hot bars, and hiding your helmet. They 100 percent have swtor gambling boxes, items in there that will make you seriously more powerful then other people, with the crafting rune system, which swtor doesnt have. You can buy everything in the game with real money, just like swtor. 

So here is the difference. A ftp person would take years to get everything, a pay player could get it all within a couple of weeks. 

As for new content they plan on charging for DLC, and new expansions.

i dont understand why you are so worried about other people. who cares about "advantages"? just play the damn game or dont. quit whining about "p2w". the game is FREE. FREE. if i had my way, EVERY mmo would be p2p. i hate all the freeloaders that bitch they have to pay for something or cry cus its not fair that this person got something faster than me. boo frickin hoo. 

makasouleater69

silverreign said:

makasouleater69 said:

Elsabolts said:

How do they plan on making any money and content ?

Lol, these people.... The cash system is based on a gambling crafting system, and  gambling boxes. Apparently they made the cash shop so well, most of these people don't even under stand how it works, so they will make plenty of money. 
 
Its just another generic cash shop, based on the fact people get urges to get better stuff, and you can do that with the cash shop. It is not direct, where you give them money they give you a super weapon, but it is close, with the crafting system. 

The guy above me mentions SWTOR, it is basically like that but worse. Yeah they wont charge you for hot bars, and hiding your helmet. They 100 percent have swtor gambling boxes, items in there that will make you seriously more powerful then other people, with the crafting rune system, which swtor doesnt have. You can buy everything in the game with real money, just like swtor. 

So here is the difference. A ftp person would take years to get everything, a pay player could get it all within a couple of weeks. 

As for new content they plan on charging for DLC, and new expansions.

i dont understand why you are so worried about other people. who cares about "advantages"? just play the damn game or dont. quit whining about "p2w". the game is FREE. FREE. if i had my way, EVERY mmo would be p2p. i hate all the freeloaders that bitch they have to pay for something or cry cus its not fair that this person got something faster than me. boo frickin hoo. 

Lol what ever, keep defending the f2p garbage system. Thanks for ruining MMO. They are never going back to p2p, because they make a crap load more with f2p.  BTW, it has nothing to do with the game being free, it has to do that if you pay 15 a month, some one who pays 10 thousand a month has a serious advantage over you. 

As far as not caring about other players, well that is why its a mmo. If your just gonna ignore every one around you, it is a terrible single player game. 

The only thing I can say is I dont role like that. If some one has something rare, I want to know they earned it playing the game. In these MMOs, it has nothing to do with that, it has to do with who spent the most money. 

As far as your theory about not caring, it just doesn't work that way at all. Maybe like 1 percent of the world, actually goes by that way of thinking, not comparing what your neighbor has. It esp doesnt work in online games. That is why they make so much money. 

Bobby, is running a 5 man group, with another class the same as him. He is doing 80 percent less dmg, than another player in the group. Bobby asks what is going on, and the other player says well, if you want to be like this, you gotta buy a bunch of stuff from the cash shop, or play 12 hours a day for a month. 

What ever as I said though, you enjoy your credit card battles, credit card warrior. I will stick with games that have servers I control, so I don't get any fools who think its ok to donate/buy 1000s of dollars worth of stuff, and think that is fun. Where every one who has something earned it by playing the game, not by their pay pal buyers credit  rating. 

Moxom914

makasouleater69 said:

silverreign said:

makasouleater69 said:

Elsabolts said:

How do they plan on making any money and content ?

Lol, these people.... The cash system is based on a gambling crafting system, and  gambling boxes. Apparently they made the cash shop so well, most of these people don't even under stand how it works, so they will make plenty of money. 
 
Its just another generic cash shop, based on the fact people get urges to get better stuff, and you can do that with the cash shop. It is not direct, where you give them money they give you a super weapon, but it is close, with the crafting system. 

The guy above me mentions SWTOR, it is basically like that but worse. Yeah they wont charge you for hot bars, and hiding your helmet. They 100 percent have swtor gambling boxes, items in there that will make you seriously more powerful then other people, with the crafting rune system, which swtor doesnt have. You can buy everything in the game with real money, just like swtor. 

So here is the difference. A ftp person would take years to get everything, a pay player could get it all within a couple of weeks. 

As for new content they plan on charging for DLC, and new expansions.

i dont understand why you are so worried about other people. who cares about "advantages"? just play the damn game or dont. quit whining about "p2w". the game is FREE. FREE. if i had my way, EVERY mmo would be p2p. i hate all the freeloaders that bitch they have to pay for something or cry cus its not fair that this person got something faster than me. boo frickin hoo. 

Lol what ever, keep defending the f2p garbage system. Thanks for ruining MMO. They are never going back to p2p, because they make a crap load more with f2p.  BTW, it has nothing to do with the game being free, it has to do that if you pay 15 a month, some one who pays 10 thousand a month has a serious advantage over you. 

As far as not caring about other players, well that is why its a mmo. If your just gonna ignore every one around you, it is a terrible single player game. 

The only thing I can say is I dont role like that. If some one has something rare, I want to know they earned it playing the game. In these MMOs, it has nothing to do with that, it has to do with who spent the most money. 

As far as your theory about not caring, it just doesn't work that way at all. Maybe like 1 percent of the world, actually goes by that way of thinking, not comparing what your neighbor has. It esp doesnt work in online games. That is why they make so much money. 

Bobby, is running a 5 man group, with another class the same as him. He is doing 80 percent less dmg, than another player in the group. Bobby asks what is going on, and the other player says well, if you want to be like this, you gotta buy a bunch of stuff from the cash shop, or play 12 hours a day for a month. 

What ever as I said though, you enjoy your credit card battles, credit card warrior. I will stick with games that have servers I control, so I don't get any fools who think its ok to donate/buy 1000s of dollars worth of stuff, and think that is fun. Where every one who has something earned it by playing the game, not by their pay pal buyers credit  rating. 

defending the f2p system? i hate free to play. when i play swtor, i sub. when i play wildstar, i sub. 
its not that i ignore other players, i just dont get jealous cus they have something i dont. i group and play with others all the time. but if so and so spent money to get something then good for him. honestly, its good for you too. he spends money so the company gets money so you can play free of charge. see how that works? 
im an adult with a job so i make money therefore i spend my money my way. i dont have a porche, i have a nissan. im not gonna cry cus porche man gets to work faster than me. i will eventually get there and spend less money gas wise. 
its all about playing the game and having fun. not who can do it first or better. thats why games are goin to hell. people forgot why games were made in the first place. entertainment.

moonbound

makasouleater69 said:

silverreign said:

makasouleater69 said:

Elsabolts said:

How do they plan on making any money and content ?

Lol, these people.... The cash system is based on a gambling crafting system, and  gambling boxes. Apparently they made the cash shop so well, most of these people don't even under stand how it works, so they will make plenty of money. 
 
Its just another generic cash shop, based on the fact people get urges to get better stuff, and you can do that with the cash shop. It is not direct, where you give them money they give you a super weapon, but it is close, with the crafting system. 

The guy above me mentions SWTOR, it is basically like that but worse. Yeah they wont charge you for hot bars, and hiding your helmet. They 100 percent have swtor gambling boxes, items in there that will make you seriously more powerful then other people, with the crafting rune system, which swtor doesnt have. You can buy everything in the game with real money, just like swtor. 

So here is the difference. A ftp person would take years to get everything, a pay player could get it all within a couple of weeks. 

As for new content they plan on charging for DLC, and new expansions.

i dont understand why you are so worried about other people. who cares about "advantages"? just play the damn game or dont. quit whining about "p2w". the game is FREE. FREE. if i had my way, EVERY mmo would be p2p. i hate all the freeloaders that bitch they have to pay for something or cry cus its not fair that this person got something faster than me. boo frickin hoo. 

Lol what ever, keep defending the f2p garbage system. Thanks for ruining MMO. They are never going back to p2p, because they make a crap load more with f2p.  BTW, it has nothing to do with the game being free, it has to do that if you pay 15 a month, some one who pays 10 thousand a month has a serious advantage over you. 

As far as not caring about other players, well that is why its a mmo. If your just gonna ignore every one around you, it is a terrible single player game. 

The only thing I can say is I dont role like that. If some one has something rare, I want to know they earned it playing the game. In these MMOs, it has nothing to do with that, it has to do with who spent the most money. 

As far as your theory about not caring, it just doesn't work that way at all. Maybe like 1 percent of the world, actually goes by that way of thinking, not comparing what your neighbor has. It esp doesnt work in online games. That is why they make so much money. 

Bobby, is running a 5 man group, with another class the same as him. He is doing 80 percent less dmg, than another player in the group. Bobby asks what is going on, and the other player says well, if you want to be like this, you gotta buy a bunch of stuff from the cash shop, or play 12 hours a day for a month. 

What ever as I said though, you enjoy your credit card battles, credit card warrior. I will stick with games that have servers I control, so I don't get any fools who think its ok to donate/buy 1000s of dollars worth of stuff, and think that is fun. Where every one who has something earned it by playing the game, not by their pay pal buyers credit  rating. 

I agree with you but please tell me what your playing that does not have these things?

makasouleater69

moonbound said:

makasouleater69 said:

silverreign said:

makasouleater69 said:

Elsabolts said:

How do they plan on making any money and content ?

Lol, these people.... The cash system is based on a gambling crafting system, and  gambling boxes. Apparently they made the cash shop so well, most of these people don't even under stand how it works, so they will make plenty of money. 
 
Its just another generic cash shop, based on the fact people get urges to get better stuff, and you can do that with the cash shop. It is not direct, where you give them money they give you a super weapon, but it is close, with the crafting system. 

The guy above me mentions SWTOR, it is basically like that but worse. Yeah they wont charge you for hot bars, and hiding your helmet. They 100 percent have swtor gambling boxes, items in there that will make you seriously more powerful then other people, with the crafting rune system, which swtor doesnt have. You can buy everything in the game with real money, just like swtor. 

So here is the difference. A ftp person would take years to get everything, a pay player could get it all within a couple of weeks. 

As for new content they plan on charging for DLC, and new expansions.

i dont understand why you are so worried about other people. who cares about "advantages"? just play the damn game or dont. quit whining about "p2w". the game is FREE. FREE. if i had my way, EVERY mmo would be p2p. i hate all the freeloaders that bitch they have to pay for something or cry cus its not fair that this person got something faster than me. boo frickin hoo. 

Lol what ever, keep defending the f2p garbage system. Thanks for ruining MMO. They are never going back to p2p, because they make a crap load more with f2p.  BTW, it has nothing to do with the game being free, it has to do that if you pay 15 a month, some one who pays 10 thousand a month has a serious advantage over you. 

As far as not caring about other players, well that is why its a mmo. If your just gonna ignore every one around you, it is a terrible single player game. 

The only thing I can say is I dont role like that. If some one has something rare, I want to know they earned it playing the game. In these MMOs, it has nothing to do with that, it has to do with who spent the most money. 

As far as your theory about not caring, it just doesn't work that way at all. Maybe like 1 percent of the world, actually goes by that way of thinking, not comparing what your neighbor has. It esp doesnt work in online games. That is why they make so much money. 

Bobby, is running a 5 man group, with another class the same as him. He is doing 80 percent less dmg, than another player in the group. Bobby asks what is going on, and the other player says well, if you want to be like this, you gotta buy a bunch of stuff from the cash shop, or play 12 hours a day for a month. 

What ever as I said though, you enjoy your credit card battles, credit card warrior. I will stick with games that have servers I control, so I don't get any fools who think its ok to donate/buy 1000s of dollars worth of stuff, and think that is fun. Where every one who has something earned it by playing the game, not by their pay pal buyers credit  rating. 

I agree with you but please tell me what your playing that does not have these things?

Arma 3 Epoch, Ryzom, SWG EMU, project 1999. I am thinking about Wurm Unlimited too, depending on how easy it is to edit it, and monitor the server. I hate a Private UO server once 2, might go back to that. Could have animal taming with stats + Animal breeding. 

moonbound

makasouleater69 said:

moonbound said:

makasouleater69 said:

silverreign said:

makasouleater69 said:

Elsabolts said:

How do they plan on making any money and content ?

Lol, these people.... The cash system is based on a gambling crafting system, and  gambling boxes. Apparently they made the cash shop so well, most of these people don't even under stand how it works, so they will make plenty of money. 
 
Its just another generic cash shop, based on the fact people get urges to get better stuff, and you can do that with the cash shop. It is not direct, where you give them money they give you a super weapon, but it is close, with the crafting system. 

The guy above me mentions SWTOR, it is basically like that but worse. Yeah they wont charge you for hot bars, and hiding your helmet. They 100 percent have swtor gambling boxes, items in there that will make you seriously more powerful then other people, with the crafting rune system, which swtor doesnt have. You can buy everything in the game with real money, just like swtor. 

So here is the difference. A ftp person would take years to get everything, a pay player could get it all within a couple of weeks. 

As for new content they plan on charging for DLC, and new expansions.

i dont understand why you are so worried about other people. who cares about "advantages"? just play the damn game or dont. quit whining about "p2w". the game is FREE. FREE. if i had my way, EVERY mmo would be p2p. i hate all the freeloaders that bitch they have to pay for something or cry cus its not fair that this person got something faster than me. boo frickin hoo. 

Lol what ever, keep defending the f2p garbage system. Thanks for ruining MMO. They are never going back to p2p, because they make a crap load more with f2p.  BTW, it has nothing to do with the game being free, it has to do that if you pay 15 a month, some one who pays 10 thousand a month has a serious advantage over you. 

As far as not caring about other players, well that is why its a mmo. If your just gonna ignore every one around you, it is a terrible single player game. 

The only thing I can say is I dont role like that. If some one has something rare, I want to know they earned it playing the game. In these MMOs, it has nothing to do with that, it has to do with who spent the most money. 

As far as your theory about not caring, it just doesn't work that way at all. Maybe like 1 percent of the world, actually goes by that way of thinking, not comparing what your neighbor has. It esp doesnt work in online games. That is why they make so much money. 

Bobby, is running a 5 man group, with another class the same as him. He is doing 80 percent less dmg, than another player in the group. Bobby asks what is going on, and the other player says well, if you want to be like this, you gotta buy a bunch of stuff from the cash shop, or play 12 hours a day for a month. 

What ever as I said though, you enjoy your credit card battles, credit card warrior. I will stick with games that have servers I control, so I don't get any fools who think its ok to donate/buy 1000s of dollars worth of stuff, and think that is fun. Where every one who has something earned it by playing the game, not by their pay pal buyers credit  rating. 

I agree with you but please tell me what your playing that does not have these things?

Arma 3 Epoch, Ryzom, SWG EMU, project 1999. I am thinking about Wurm Unlimited too, depending on how easy it is to edit it, and monitor the server. I hate a Private UO server once 2, might go back to that. Could have animal taming with stats + Animal breeding. 

All those games are to old for me these days as much as I loved eq, swg is gone though so im confused about that. Wurm online doesnt look like fantasy, I tried ryzom but it got stale for me quickly.

Have not heard of arma 3 epoch.

makasouleater69

moonbound said:

makasouleater69 said:

moonbound said:

makasouleater69 said:

silverreign said:

makasouleater69 said:

Elsabolts said:

How do they plan on making any money and content ?

Lol, these people.... The cash system is based on a gambling crafting system, and  gambling boxes. Apparently they made the cash shop so well, most of these people don't even under stand how it works, so they will make plenty of money. 
 
Its just another generic cash shop, based on the fact people get urges to get better stuff, and you can do that with the cash shop. It is not direct, where you give them money they give you a super weapon, but it is close, with the crafting system. 

The guy above me mentions SWTOR, it is basically like that but worse. Yeah they wont charge you for hot bars, and hiding your helmet. They 100 percent have swtor gambling boxes, items in there that will make you seriously more powerful then other people, with the crafting rune system, which swtor doesnt have. You can buy everything in the game with real money, just like swtor. 

So here is the difference. A ftp person would take years to get everything, a pay player could get it all within a couple of weeks. 

As for new content they plan on charging for DLC, and new expansions.

i dont understand why you are so worried about other people. who cares about "advantages"? just play the damn game or dont. quit whining about "p2w". the game is FREE. FREE. if i had my way, EVERY mmo would be p2p. i hate all the freeloaders that bitch they have to pay for something or cry cus its not fair that this person got something faster than me. boo frickin hoo. 

Lol what ever, keep defending the f2p garbage system. Thanks for ruining MMO. They are never going back to p2p, because they make a crap load more with f2p.  BTW, it has nothing to do with the game being free, it has to do that if you pay 15 a month, some one who pays 10 thousand a month has a serious advantage over you. 

As far as not caring about other players, well that is why its a mmo. If your just gonna ignore every one around you, it is a terrible single player game. 

The only thing I can say is I dont role like that. If some one has something rare, I want to know they earned it playing the game. In these MMOs, it has nothing to do with that, it has to do with who spent the most money. 

As far as your theory about not caring, it just doesn't work that way at all. Maybe like 1 percent of the world, actually goes by that way of thinking, not comparing what your neighbor has. It esp doesnt work in online games. That is why they make so much money. 

Bobby, is running a 5 man group, with another class the same as him. He is doing 80 percent less dmg, than another player in the group. Bobby asks what is going on, and the other player says well, if you want to be like this, you gotta buy a bunch of stuff from the cash shop, or play 12 hours a day for a month. 

What ever as I said though, you enjoy your credit card battles, credit card warrior. I will stick with games that have servers I control, so I don't get any fools who think its ok to donate/buy 1000s of dollars worth of stuff, and think that is fun. Where every one who has something earned it by playing the game, not by their pay pal buyers credit  rating. 

I agree with you but please tell me what your playing that does not have these things?

Arma 3 Epoch, Ryzom, SWG EMU, project 1999. I am thinking about Wurm Unlimited too, depending on how easy it is to edit it, and monitor the server. I hate a Private UO server once 2, might go back to that. Could have animal taming with stats + Animal breeding. 

All those games are to old for me these days as much as I loved eq, swg is gone though so im confused about that. Wurm online doesnt look like fantasy, I tried ryzom but it got stale for me quickly.

Have not heard of arma 3 epoch.

Arma 3 epoch, is a survival game, but it isnt fantasy.