It amazes me to this day that every MMO I've played to date has been a disappointment in one way or another yet I keep trying new games. Hope springs eternal.
thats kind of odd, most people get hooked on the first mmo they try then get hooked on the genre. what got you to even try mmo's? maybe they are just not for you?
for me EQ1 and vanilla wow are the only games i can say that exceeded any expectations of a game i might have had, even though i don't go in having expectations for games usually.
I can't say any mmo ever exceeded my expectations. I try to keep them very low in any case, ever since Aion Launched. One might make a case for Lineage 2 as I was just trying it out to "try out an mmo", was only going to play a week or less and ended up playing for over 4.5 years. However, none of what I thought was in an mmo (at the time) was in Lineage 2. It was still worth playing.
The single player games that exceeded my expectations were Masters of Orion II and Morrowind.
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Elite: Dangerous exceeded my expectations by a few hundred miles, and with E:D Horizons expansion coming out by new year, I'll be glued to my chair every minute I'm not at work.
lineage 2 : i had no expectations and ended up clocking thousands of hours into it. guild wars 1 : same here, didn't expect much from it and played for 6 months straight thanks to the awesome pvp. marvel heroes : had very low expectation mostly due to the bad reviews from the release version. i still play it everyday. warcraft 3 : expected a nice story mode but not the fantastic adventure that bnet ended up being. probably the game i played the most if you include dota 1 and the one where i made friends that i still hang out with a decade later.
For me, I think that DAoC surprised me most. I am not a fan of zergs or PvP, but I found myself enjoying the RvR, especially once I dropped my Cabalist for a reasonable class without a observation blimp of a pet standing next to me. I was only moderately safe in a zerg, which was unsettling, as the dial-up connection and a zerg weren't exactly compatible. The PvE disappointed me, otherwise I might have stayed with that game.
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Neverwinter Nights 2 (playing it like an MMORPG on persistent multiplayer servers)
The game was bashed a lot in NWN 1 community. During its first 3-4 years NWN 2 was horribly buggy. Playing it as an MMORPG was a nightmare because of serious bugs. It wasn't until 2010 when the game really exceeded expectations thanks to Obsidian Entertainment's three year post-release patch program and many talented enthusiasts who have already spent almost a decade perfecting the game, developing more content and running servers with quality content.
Vanguard, i did not play it till it had been out for over a year and it was more stable at that point. I expected it to be horrible, but it was a very good game.
Defiance. It was so far better than PS2 and it is a fun game. I never really thought I would like a open wold shooter game. i think it helps that it is PVE based.
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Expectations weren't high for that one, but deserves a mention as it managed to put a smile on one's face. It might be the only parody MMORPG out there. It parodies fairy tales and serious MMORPGs to some extent. In that game players with four-legged animal characters could be used as mounts by players with two-legged animal characters. Many monsters and quests were ridiculous in a stylised way fitting for a parody. Players who played sheep were in Little Bopeep's faction and players who played wolves were in The Little Red Riding Hood's faction. They had RvsR with other creatures acting as mercenaries. Well, this video explains it all...
Path of Exile - back in the day it was kinda nichè and no one really cared because Diablo III was around the corner but OH BOY, this is one of the, if not THE best hack&slash I've played. It got it all, super awesome skill system, endless build possibilities, serious end game content, interesting mechanics, cool economy (seriously, we need more of PoE style economies, away with stupid gold coins).
Every 3 months a new league starts with new (sometimes game changing) map mechanics, a fresh economy and new races.
Oh btw, did I mention you get all this for free? You have to pay nothing to enjoy everything. Path of Exile has the most fair cash shop there is, you cannot buy anything that affects the gameplay(except maybe stash tabs but cmon), only cosmetic stuff like skill animations, armor skins and so on.
You can tell I'm a fanboi when it comes to PoE but I cannot stress enough how awesome this game is once you get the hang of it. Also, the lead dev is browsing the reddit daily and you can have a nice talk with him if you dare, he's a really cool guy and you can tell he's doing it not for the money but for the passion.
I don't really think anyone can claim their first, second, or (arguably) even third MMO really surpassed their expectations. In the literal sense you could say it did, but those expectations were so largely ungrounded due to a lack of experience that it's not meaningful to say that they were surpassed. Just saying an MMO surpassed your expectations is really rather meaningless information. The question is how many MMOs did you play to form a basis for your expectations to be surpassed?
I don't really think anyone can claim their first, second, or (arguably) even third MMO really surpassed their expectations. In the literal sense you could say it did, but those expectations were so largely ungrounded due to a lack of experience that it's not meaningful to say that they were surpassed. Just saying an MMO surpassed your expectations is really rather meaningless information. The question is how many MMOs did you play to form a basis for your expectations to be surpassed?
In that assumption asking anyone their opinion on a game is by definition meaningless due to the fact that their exceptions, preferences and opinions will be different from yours. And using the argument of playing experience is flawed from the start as no-one has played all games.
I take this thread to be an opportunity to reminisce and give examples of games that 'blew you away' and in many respects that game happened to be our first online multiplayer experience.
Nothing more than a feel good thread, don't spoil it by making it complicated.
I don't really think anyone can claim their first, second, or (arguably) even third MMO really surpassed their expectations. In the literal sense you could say it did, but those expectations were so largely ungrounded due to a lack of experience that it's not meaningful to say that they were surpassed. Just saying an MMO surpassed your expectations is really rather meaningless information. The question is how many MMOs did you play to form a basis for your expectations to be surpassed?
I can only maybe agree about first MMOs, since so many go into it blind--like I did.
A lot of us openly admit that we stuck with our first mmo's because we had no expectations to disappoint. Combat in a 3D chat-lobby was satisfactory.
My first MMO, I spent four years with, before trying another. Did I not have a decent enough understanding of the concept to have a grounded set of expectations? I believe I did.
Spec'ing properly is a gateway drug. 12 Million People have been meter spammed in heroics.
I don't really think anyone can claim their first, second, or (arguably) even third MMO really surpassed their expectations. In the literal sense you could say it did, but those expectations were so largely ungrounded due to a lack of experience that it's not meaningful to say that they were surpassed. Just saying an MMO surpassed your expectations is really rather meaningless information. The question is how many MMOs did you play to form a basis for your expectations to be surpassed?
I can only maybe agree about first MMOs, since so many go into it blind--like I did.
A lot of us openly admit that we stuck with our first mmo's because we had no expectations to disappoint. Combat in a 3D chat-lobby was satisfactory.
My first MMO, I spent four years with, before trying another. Did I not have a decent enough understanding of the concept to have a grounded set of expectations? I believe I did.
If you've only played one MMO, your expectations will likely be that all MMOs will be similar to that first one. If I've only played one MMO, my expectations are going to vary wildly if that MMO was Eve versus World of Warcraft. Imagine back when Ultima Online was the only mainstream-ish MMO on the market, and all of a sudden Everquest came out. The expectations they had from Ultima Online couldn't have even prepared them for what Everquest was.
Now you could argue in this day and age of homogeneous copycat MMOs less experience is required to form a basis for expectations, and I wouldn't disagree with that.
Puzzle Pirates and Wizard 101 are the only MMORPGs I can think of that greatly exceeded my expectations. I usually spend hours reading up on a game before playing it (or sometimes spend hours and then decide not to play it), so there aren't such big surprises. So while Guild Wars 1 and Uncharted Waters Online were both special games, I had very high hopes for them going in. Meeting very high expectations is no small thing, but it's not greatly exceeding expectations.
Skyforge was a game i would tell my friends that it would be shit, got forced into playing it. Now i think it's still shit but good shit. Seriously had some fun in this game when i played it this summer up until now. I looked down on Tera back in the days too, but damn did i waste alot of hours into that game. Same goes for Lineage 2, good stuff sadly my PC was pretty shit when i played it and it forced me to stop it. I played many mmos can't really remember all of their names anymore, but from what i can recall skyforge and tera are games i used to think were shit until i tried them and i dumped alot of hours into them and i believe if someone is searchin' for mmo to play now they are a fine choice. For me it's wait till BnS though.
FFXI(pre abyssea) for me, I left the game thereafter. Longest played MMO for me, about 7years. FFXIV doesn't even come close, can't believe i've supported the game since 1.0. The whole theme park direction killed it for me
I was on the fence about mass effect for a long time before i bought it, but when i did holy shit was i impressed and bought the whole series.
I remember not buying Fallout new vegas also because i got the impression is was just a "large fallout 3 expansion" and not worth its stand alone merit, Boy was i wrong. Fallout New Vegas towers above fallout 3 imo.
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FFXI- wasn't sure what to expect as it was my first MMO, but had tons of fun in it for a long time
WoW- didn't expect it to be any good since it was so different from FFXI but ended up spending a lot of time in it
Darkfall- again, wasn't sure what to expect but had a good amount of fun in it. I'm really looking forward to the reboot.
The game that I've been playing the most over the past few years is SMITE. Again I had no idea what to expect. It drew me in because Arena is kind of like WoW BGs, and I had no idea what a MOBA was. Hooked me with the great sense of humor and gameplay. I believe it will be a secondary game to my MMOs for as long as it's running (currently it's my main game as I'm not playing an MMO until BDO comes out)
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for me EQ1 and vanilla wow are the only games i can say that exceeded any expectations of a game i might have had, even though i don't go in having expectations for games usually.
The single player games that exceeded my expectations were Masters of Orion II and Morrowind.
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guild wars 1 : same here, didn't expect much from it and played for 6 months straight thanks to the awesome pvp.
marvel heroes : had very low expectation mostly due to the bad reviews from the release version. i still play it everyday.
warcraft 3 : expected a nice story mode but not the fantastic adventure that bnet ended up being. probably the game i played the most if you include dota 1 and the one where i made friends that i still hang out with a decade later.
I was surprised by STO ,, after reading all the bad reviews I really liked the story line and player content.
Guild wars 1---loved both the pve and especially the pvp content which was fun right out of the gate.
Vanguard----played the beta and it was a lagfest mess, although it took them years to clean up the lag a great World really pulled me in
I was least impressed by GUILD WARS 2---compared to 1 it was crap, weird story and bad pv p
WOW---loved it when it first came out but it has gone to hell
EVE---can anyone hear you scream in space----NO
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The game was bashed a lot in NWN 1 community. During its first 3-4 years NWN 2 was horribly buggy. Playing it as an MMORPG was a nightmare because of serious bugs. It wasn't until 2010 when the game really exceeded expectations thanks to Obsidian Entertainment's three year post-release patch program and many talented enthusiasts who have already spent almost a decade perfecting the game, developing more content and running servers with quality content.
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Defiance. It was so far better than PS2 and it is a fun game. I never really thought I would like a open wold shooter game. i think it helps that it is PVE based.
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Expectations weren't high for that one, but deserves a mention as it managed to put a smile on one's face. It might be the only parody MMORPG out there. It parodies fairy tales and serious MMORPGs to some extent. In that game players with four-legged animal characters could be used as mounts by players with two-legged animal characters. Many monsters and quests were ridiculous in a stylised way fitting for a parody. Players who played sheep were in Little Bopeep's faction and players who played wolves were in The Little Red Riding Hood's faction. They had RvsR with other creatures acting as mercenaries. Well, this video explains it all...
* more info, screenshots and videos here
It got it all, super awesome skill system, endless build possibilities, serious end game content, interesting mechanics, cool economy (seriously, we need more of PoE style economies, away with stupid gold coins).
Every 3 months a new league starts with new (sometimes game changing) map mechanics, a fresh economy and new races.
Oh btw, did I mention you get all this for free? You have to pay nothing to enjoy everything. Path of Exile has the most fair cash shop there is, you cannot buy anything that affects the gameplay(except maybe stash tabs but cmon), only cosmetic stuff like skill animations, armor skins and so on.
You can tell I'm a fanboi when it comes to PoE but I cannot stress enough how awesome this game is once you get the hang of it. Also, the lead dev is browsing the reddit daily and you can have a nice talk with him if you dare, he's a really cool guy and you can tell he's doing it not for the money but for the passion.
I take this thread to be an opportunity to reminisce and give examples of games that 'blew you away' and in many respects that game happened to be our first online multiplayer experience.
Nothing more than a feel good thread, don't spoil it by making it complicated.
A lot of us openly admit that we stuck with our first mmo's because we had no expectations to disappoint. Combat in a 3D chat-lobby was satisfactory.
My first MMO, I spent four years with, before trying another. Did I not have a decent enough understanding of the concept to have a grounded set of expectations? I believe I did.
Spec'ing properly is a gateway drug.
12 Million People have been meter spammed in heroics.
If you've only played one MMO, your expectations will likely be that all MMOs will be similar to that first one. If I've only played one MMO, my expectations are going to vary wildly if that MMO was Eve versus World of Warcraft. Imagine back when Ultima Online was the only mainstream-ish MMO on the market, and all of a sudden Everquest came out. The expectations they had from Ultima Online couldn't have even prepared them for what Everquest was.
Now you could argue in this day and age of homogeneous copycat MMOs less experience is required to form a basis for expectations, and I wouldn't disagree with that.
I looked down on Tera back in the days too, but damn did i waste alot of hours into that game.
Same goes for Lineage 2, good stuff sadly my PC was pretty shit when i played it and it forced me to stop it.
I played many mmos can't really remember all of their names anymore, but from what i can recall skyforge and tera are games i used to think were shit until i tried them and i dumped alot of hours into them and i believe if someone is searchin' for mmo to play now they are a fine choice. For me it's wait till BnS though.
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I remember not buying Fallout new vegas also because i got the impression is was just a "large fallout 3 expansion" and not worth its stand alone merit, Boy was i wrong. Fallout New Vegas towers above fallout 3 imo.
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WoW- didn't expect it to be any good since it was so different from FFXI but ended up spending a lot of time in it
Darkfall- again, wasn't sure what to expect but had a good amount of fun in it. I'm really looking forward to the reboot.
The game that I've been playing the most over the past few years is SMITE. Again I had no idea what to expect. It drew me in because Arena is kind of like WoW BGs, and I had no idea what a MOBA was. Hooked me with the great sense of humor and gameplay. I believe it will be a secondary game to my MMOs for as long as it's running (currently it's my main game as I'm not playing an MMO until BDO comes out)