Dont get me started in league of legend....every week i get chat limits due to somone reported me for replying back on flaming...its like they WANT you to flame so they can report you after the game and the game creators tribune system works like shiiaat...cuz u can just log in to that system and vote on 20 games that had flaming..so even with out reading the issue i can just press the ban or vote down botton 20 times a day because i wanna troll somone....emagine if the real life worked like that, then i would be in jail now
NOTE: this thread was started with a light hearted an humorous tone. Lets not start calling people asshats or start pretending that somehow someone is an inferior being because they were banned before.
You do not have to break the rules to be banned. Sometimes GM's just make stuff up as they go along.
Why? Because I act online like I do in real life (minus RP flare) ... something beyond the capacity of most online players today.
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Same. Approx. 25 years of online gaming, never banned once. For the reasons quoted, and because I don't cheat, bot, or break the game rules in any other way.
Dont get me started in league of legend....every week i get chat limits due to somone reported me for replying back on flaming...its like they WANT you to flame so they can report you after the game and the game creators tribune system works like shiiaat...cuz u can just log in to that system and vote on 20 games that had flaming..so even with out reading the issue i can just press the ban or vote down botton 20 times a day because i wanna troll somone....emagine if the real life worked like that, then i would be in jail now
The real world does work like that. It's called PC and SJW. Panzies, crybabies and self indignant thin skinned lazy busybodies rule the lands, protected by law and empowered with an ability to cry offense at anything at all, knowing it can ruin someone else's career, or doing so when they are being disciplined for being the lazy, incompetent children they are, so as not to receive discipline, as they could then sue for retaliation.
You do not have to break the rules to be banned. Sometimes GM's just make stuff up as they go along
The GMs didn't need to make anything up in your case though. Each time you were banned, it was well deserved.
In the first one, I was banned while I was AFK. Banned for someone else's actions to boot.
So you are saying that having fun is a bannable offense?
Since I refuse to believe you are that... let's be nice, and use the word "thick" for now, I think you perfectly know why you got banned for that one. And if you really don't... well, lemme give you a hint in a single word: spam. And I think they were nice and only gave you 3 hours.
But they banned me and not the person who actually spammed me with /moo 600 times to get me banned. Can't you read? And you call me thick? Seriously?
But they banned me and not the person who actually spammed me with /moo 600 times to get me banned. Can't you read? And you call me thick? Seriously?
There could be any number of reasons for this, most pertinent being track record, maybe your friend didn't attempt to bring attention to themselves quite as often?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
You do not have to break the rules to be banned. Sometimes GM's just make stuff up as they go along
The GMs didn't need to make anything up in your case though. Each time you were banned, it was well deserved.
In the first one, I was banned while I was AFK. Banned for someone else's actions to boot.
So you are saying that having fun is a bannable offense?
Since I refuse to believe you are that... let's be nice, and use the word "thick" for now, I think you perfectly know why you got banned for that one. And if you really don't... well, lemme give you a hint in a single word: spam. And I think they were nice and only gave you 3 hours.
But they banned me and not the person who actually spammed me with /moo 600 times to get me banned. Can't you read? And you call me thick? Seriously?
You both installed an addon that could produce spam. YOU did that. You installed some third party crap without thinking about the possible consequences. Result: you pissed off other players, you and your friend, by spamming emotes, and you got a 3 hours ban. As I said, well deserved. And the moderators have been really nice. If you can't understand why you got banned that time, well, expect to get banned again and again, if you don't learn to think about how your actions could negatively affect other players by breaking the game rules (in this case, chat rules).
Its an RP addon dude. Its not an addon installed for the sole reason to produce spam. Using your definition most addons would get you banned since they all have some sort of local chat announcement (like heal addons that notify when you are casting heal on someone or GCD announcment addons for raids). Having an addon that could spam is not the same thing as spamming (which is clearly what the other guy did).
But they banned me and not the person who actually spammed me with /moo 600 times to get me banned. Can't you read? And you call me thick? Seriously?
There could be any number of reasons for this, most pertinent being track record, maybe your friend didn't attempt to bring attention to themselves quite as often?
Or there's a part of the story missing. Both were banned for spamming emotes at each other.
He's been banned alot actually. He's one of those guys that would run LFG simply to troll everyone and because he is the tank they can't really do anything about it (no tank no group).
According to him the reason why he wasn't banned is because he was the one who reported it. I had been sleeping after a long night of raiding (this was back when I was still in the process of burning myself out on WoW) and when I woke up and tried to check my auctions, I see a message saying that I had been suspended. I had my tauren parked in the bank.
NCsoft banned me for playing at a lan center. They said I was account sharing (because it wasn't the same IP Address from my house). After I explained it to them, they removed the ban after 2 weeks but deleted all my gear (took me 3 years to get) except for my boots. When I asked why, they said they didn't want to leave me with cold feet, then closed the ticket and said they will no longer respond.
And people wonder why I stay away from NCsoft games.
You would only need a lawyer and they'd replace everything and give you freebies. When it starts costing them money thats when they get serious.
Actually all you have to do is pay $37 or so depending on your city or county to file a small claims suit against them. Soon as they are served they tend to settle and even reimburse your filing fee if you include that as part of your suit. I've only had to do it 5 times, over 20 years of gaming but every time it has gone in my favor.
banned for trolling makes sense. The other one for the macro was obviously auto-generated based on your auto generated /moo. I love that you say you got banned for being a cow and mooing. I used to use logic like that when it was really late at night and I had been having too much fun with the intake of liquids.
I love that you have fun with it and don't take it seriously.
I got banned once because someone in "The Realm" used an exploit to steal from me in a trade and when I killed them they complained that I had been harassing them. This was in the days when a person just made a call on things and you could just email support and talk to that actual person (it was beta at that point). The guy was a master scammer I never did get the gold pants back
And about your heal addons... they only announce if you make a specific action before (aka healing). There's no possibility of spam there unless you, the user, indeed spam your healing keys.
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Healing was ALWAYS about spamming in TBC. I would literally watch TV and occasionally move my shaman around when I played resto. I had a macro program setup to spam 1,1,1,1 (chain healing duh!). I even managed to do BT a few times while watching TV in this fashion.
A long time ago I got banned for a few hours in Navyfield for being too rich. Some game master was suspicious how a player without significant number of battles could have so much credits. After they checked and saw that I had been trading a lot, they unbanned me.
banned for trolling makes sense. The other one for the macro was obviously auto-generated based on your auto generated /moo. I love that you say you got banned for being a cow and mooing. I used to use logic like that when it was really late at night and I had been having too much fun with the intake of liquids.
I'd expect that kind of logic from a kid or at worst a teenager, not a grown up adult.
If anything, this is the proof that some players don't give a shit about how their actions, be it through direct actions or through automatized add-ons, may negatively affect other players... well, it's not even that they don't give a shit, they apparently don't even understand it. It's a bit like standing in a doorway stopping everyone else from passing, and wondering why everyone is shouting at you...
O.o
I was always under the assumption that third party software was consider illegal and punishable by perma ban.
NCsoft banned me for playing at a lan center. They said I was account sharing (because it wasn't the same IP Address from my house). After I explained it to them, they removed the ban after 2 weeks but deleted all my gear (took me 3 years to get) except for my boots. When I asked why, they said they didn't want to leave me with cold feet, then closed the ticket and said they will no longer respond.
And people wonder why I stay away from NCsoft games.
You would only need a lawyer and they'd replace everything and give you freebies. When it starts costing them money thats when they get serious.
Actually all you have to do is pay $37 or so depending on your city or county to file a small claims suit against them. Soon as they are served they tend to settle and even reimburse your filing fee if you include that as part of your suit. I've only had to do it 5 times, over 20 years of gaming but every time it has gone in my favor.
Nope, they are protected by their eula. Others have already tried. Their eula says they reserve the right to suspend or otherwise permanently close your account with or without reason. And no refunds are available when accounts are closed.
At first, they didn't even tell me why my accounts were banned. I had to put in a ticket and wait 1 month for a response.
In short... I stay away from NCsoft games.
EULAs don't always hold up in court (its not a hand signed document, and nobody even reads them. You can't prove that someone agreed to it which in some courts is enough to get it ruled in your favor). However, it would cost them thousands of dollars to even get to that point. Replacing your items and unbanning you is free.
banned for trolling makes sense. The other one for the macro was obviously auto-generated based on your auto generated /moo. I love that you say you got banned for being a cow and mooing. I used to use logic like that when it was really late at night and I had been having too much fun with the intake of liquids.
I'd expect that kind of logic from a kid or at worst a teenager, not a grown up adult.
If anything, this is the proof that some players don't give a shit about how their actions, be it through direct actions or through automatized add-ons, may negatively affect other players... well, it's not even that they don't give a shit, they apparently don't even understand it. It's a bit like standing in a doorway stopping everyone else from passing, and wondering why everyone is shouting at you...
O.o
I was always under the assumption that third party software was consider illegal and punishable by perma ban.
You can't play Wow without addons. The default UI is terrible.
banned for trolling makes sense. The other one for the macro was obviously auto-generated based on your auto generated /moo. I love that you say you got banned for being a cow and mooing. I used to use logic like that when it was really late at night and I had been having too much fun with the intake of liquids.
I'd expect that kind of logic from a kid or at worst a teenager, not a grown up adult.
If anything, this is the proof that some players don't give a shit about how their actions, be it through direct actions or through automatized add-ons, may negatively affect other players... well, it's not even that they don't give a shit, they apparently don't even understand it. It's a bit like standing in a doorway stopping everyone else from passing, and wondering why everyone is shouting at you...
O.o
Both examples you give are really bad. Emotes are typically hidden from the default chat view and players can be ignored by right clicking their name. Most games do not have collision detection.
NCsoft banned me for playing at a lan center. They said I was account sharing (because it wasn't the same IP Address from my house). After I explained it to them, they removed the ban after 2 weeks but deleted all my gear (took me 3 years to get) except for my boots. When I asked why, they said they didn't want to leave me with cold feet, then closed the ticket and said they will no longer respond.
And people wonder why I stay away from NCsoft games.
You would only need a lawyer and they'd replace everything and give you freebies. When it starts costing them money thats when they get serious.
Actually all you have to do is pay $37 or so depending on your city or county to file a small claims suit against them. Soon as they are served they tend to settle and even reimburse your filing fee if you include that as part of your suit. I've only had to do it 5 times, over 20 years of gaming but every time it has gone in my favor.
Nope, they are protected by their eula. Others have already tried. Their eula says they reserve the right to suspend or otherwise permanently close your account with or without reason. And no refunds are available when accounts are closed.
At first, they didn't even tell me why my accounts were banned. I had to put in a ticket and wait 1 month for a response.
In short... I stay away from NCsoft games.
EULAs don't always hold up in court (its not a hand signed document, and nobody even reads them. You can't prove that someone agreed to it which in some courts is enough to get it ruled in your favor). However, it would cost them thousands of dollars to even get to that point. Replacing your items and unbanning you is free.
The eula is that thing you click "I Agree" every single time you logged into the game. That was how they won against others.
You clearly haven't read my reply. "Winning" costs them thousands of dollars in which case they are actually losing. By simply giving you your account back, they win because they just saved the company that unnecessary cost that won't be recouped anytime soon. Lawyers charge hundreds of dollars by the hour. It will cost them $1600 just to speak to a lawyer about going to court. And if they lose (which happens about 40-60% of the time) they have to pay your legal expenses plus theirs.
banned for trolling makes sense. The other one for the macro was obviously auto-generated based on your auto generated /moo. I love that you say you got banned for being a cow and mooing. I used to use logic like that when it was really late at night and I had been having too much fun with the intake of liquids.
I'd expect that kind of logic from a kid or at worst a teenager, not a grown up adult.
If anything, this is the proof that some players don't give a shit about how their actions, be it through direct actions or through automatized add-ons, may negatively affect other players... well, it's not even that they don't give a shit, they apparently don't even understand it. It's a bit like standing in a doorway stopping everyone else from passing, and wondering why everyone is shouting at you...
O.o
I was always under the assumption that third party software was consider illegal and punishable by perma ban.
UI addons are part of WoW since day one, but their abuse and/or misuse is also a bannable offense since day one.
I see. That explains it. EQ2 had that too but then abuse of it can lead to some unwanted attention.
NCsoft banned me for playing at a lan center. They said I was account sharing (because it wasn't the same IP Address from my house). After I explained it to them, they removed the ban after 2 weeks but deleted all my gear (took me 3 years to get) except for my boots. When I asked why, they said they didn't want to leave me with cold feet, then closed the ticket and said they will no longer respond.
And people wonder why I stay away from NCsoft games.
You would only need a lawyer and they'd replace everything and give you freebies. When it starts costing them money thats when they get serious.
Actually all you have to do is pay $37 or so depending on your city or county to file a small claims suit against them. Soon as they are served they tend to settle and even reimburse your filing fee if you include that as part of your suit. I've only had to do it 5 times, over 20 years of gaming but every time it has gone in my favor.
Nope, they are protected by their eula. Others have already tried. Their eula says they reserve the right to suspend or otherwise permanently close your account with or without reason. And no refunds are available when accounts are closed.
At first, they didn't even tell me why my accounts were banned. I had to put in a ticket and wait 1 month for a response.
In short... I stay away from NCsoft games.
EULAs don't always hold up in court (its not a hand signed document, and nobody even reads them. You can't prove that someone agreed to it which in some courts is enough to get it ruled in your favor). However, it would cost them thousands of dollars to even get to that point. Replacing your items and unbanning you is free.
The eula is that thing you click "I Agree" every single time you logged into the game. That was how they won against others.
You clearly haven't read my reply. "Winning" costs them thousands of dollars in which case they are actually losing. By simply giving you your account back, they win because they just saved the company that unnecessary cost that won't be recouped anytime soon. Lawyers charge hundreds of dollars by the hour. It will cost them $1600 just to speak to a lawyer about going to court. And if they lose (which happens about 40-60% of the time) they have to pay your legal expenses plus theirs.
Nope. They have their own full time lawyers. That was actually how my friend lost. She had her account banned after being innactive for 6 months. NCsoft had a security breach and lost 2million accounts (through the famous symantec hack)...
When she came back her account was banned because it was hacked by farmers. She was able to get the account back, but lost everything she had. She tried taking them to small claims court and the court ruled in favor of ncsoft due to the eula.
You had a really terrible lawyer then. You realize that companies are liable for all stolen finacial information, all unauthorized charges, and are required to pay for your credit monitoring services for a year? Also they are typically fined by the fTC for thousands of dollars per customer record stolen.
never been banned and sure have used some sort of 3rd party software - though very much used in EQ2, but not for anything like botting or whatever to get an, culturally unacceptable, advantage
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Been playing mmo's since U.O and EQ, Ive done HORRIABLE things, and trolled hard at times. Never once been banned, or had any account suspended.
I believe those that have are quite unlucky, or have really crossed a line.
....Being Banned from MMORPG's forums since 2010, for Trolling the Trolls!!!
Lets not start calling people asshats or start pretending that somehow someone is an inferior being because they were banned before.
You do not have to break the rules to be banned.
Sometimes GM's just make stuff up as they go along.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
In the first one, I was banned while I was AFK. Banned for someone else's actions to boot.
So you are saying that having fun is a bannable offense?
Though with your poor attitude and insult tossing behavior you might just get lucky today.
Can't you read? And you call me thick? Seriously?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Using your definition most addons would get you banned since they all have some sort of local chat announcement (like heal addons that notify when you are casting heal on someone or GCD announcment addons for raids).
Having an addon that could spam is not the same thing as spamming (which is clearly what the other guy did).
According to him the reason why he wasn't banned is because he was the one who reported it.
I had been sleeping after a long night of raiding (this was back when I was still in the process of burning myself out on WoW) and when I woke up and tried to check my auctions, I see a message saying that I had been suspended. I had my tauren parked in the bank.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I love that you have fun with it and don't take it seriously.
I got banned once because someone in "The Realm" used an exploit to steal from me in a trade and when I killed them they complained that I had been harassing them. This was in the days when a person just made a call on things and you could just email support and talk to that actual person (it was beta at that point). The guy was a master scammer
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Healing was ALWAYS about spamming in TBC. I would literally watch TV and occasionally move my shaman around when I played resto. I had a macro program setup to spam 1,1,1,1 (chain healing duh!).
I even managed to do BT a few times while watching TV in this fashion.
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I was always under the assumption that third party software was consider illegal and punishable by perma ban.
If you are interested in making a MMO maybe visit my page to get a free open source engine.
However, it would cost them thousands of dollars to even get to that point. Replacing your items and unbanning you is free.
Both examples you give are really bad.
Emotes are typically hidden from the default chat view and players can be ignored by right clicking their name.
Most games do not have collision detection.
"Winning" costs them thousands of dollars in which case they are actually losing. By simply giving you your account back, they win because they just saved the company that unnecessary cost that won't be recouped anytime soon.
Lawyers charge hundreds of dollars by the hour. It will cost them $1600 just to speak to a lawyer about going to court.
And if they lose (which happens about 40-60% of the time) they have to pay your legal expenses plus theirs.
If you are interested in making a MMO maybe visit my page to get a free open source engine.
Also they are typically fined by the fTC for thousands of dollars per customer record stolen.
http://www.forthepeople.com/class-action-lawyers/data-breaches/
http://fortune.com/2015/07/29/data-breach-7th-circuit/
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2082208/customers-sue-target-over-data-breach-but-the-problem-is-with-american-credit-cards.html