WOW Team Hiring, your thoughts?

Bane82

So obviously this message appeared on the game dash. Is this only for Legion? Another expansion already in the works? I know someone here had made the suggestion that Blizzard should really consider letting WOW go F2P due to its dwindling population (his words, not mine) and instead focus on making WOW 2, or perhaps and SC:Online game.

More than likely it seems like it's for Legion, but it would be nice to wonder if it would be for WoW2, or better yet, SC:Online, since so far I've felt a number of the sci fi MMO's seem underwhelming.

Albatroes

The WoW team has been hiring for a least a year now....It was on the launcher a month or so before WoD released.

Sovrath

I don't think they are going to do a "WoW 2".

It would cannibalize their current player base and it seems after they spent a lot of time (and I presume "money) on Titan only to cancel it that they might not be all that interested in creating in a traditional mmo (or any mmo?) anymore.

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Albatroes

Sovrath said:

I don't think they are going to do a "WoW 2".

It would cannibalize their current player base and it seems after they spent a lot of time (and I presume "money) on Titan only to cancel it that they might not be all that interested in creating in a traditional mmo (or any mmo?) anymore.

A lot of people have just been saying Overwatch is just using the assets from Titan, which makes sense to me with how fast its been progressing recently.

Velocinox

Wow has been hiring since beta. They have always had something available.

Sovrath

Albatroes said:

Sovrath said:

I don't think they are going to do a "WoW 2".

It would cannibalize their current player base and it seems after they spent a lot of time (and I presume "money) on Titan only to cancel it that they might not be all that interested in creating in a traditional mmo (or any mmo?) anymore.

A lot of people have just been saying Overwatch is just using the assets from Titan, which makes sense to me with how fast its been progressing recently.

It's probably correct. Any company putting time, money, resources in on a project that they decide to cancel will try to capitalize on what they had already done. Otherwise they just threw away all that effort/money.

They will want to make back that money it makes sense to apply all that to another game.

zaberfangx

WoW2 would not work out for them at this point of time when wow it self still alive. I see them more on keeping up to date with there engine. Soon never know there be on the new API sooner or later like vulkan as blizzard joined the khronos group not to long ago.

Pepeq

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know they (Blizzard/Activision) are eyeing the mobile/console markets.  It also doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that not a single MMO to date has garnered 1/10th the staying power of the ones that debuted in the early 2000's.

MMOs aren't dead, but they certainly aren't MMOs by the old definition anymore.  A FPS offers the exact amount of long term play as any MMO these days... used to be MMOs eclipsed FPS by a thousand fold.

Righteous_Rock

I think they are running a business.

Nanfoodle

Game companies hire and let go of staff all the time. Its the way if this industry. 

Talonsin

Nanfoodle said:

Game companies hire and let go of staff all the time. Its the way if this industry. 

Nailed it!

ste2000

WoW 2 is going to happen there is not doubt about it.

Business wise it would not make sense not to make one.
Every blockbuster hit had its sequel (I am talking mainly about Movies), that's how the entertainment industry works.

The question is when?
Problem with making a sequel in the MMORPG industry is that unlike movies you could kill your player base with a new product.
Blizzard are not so stupid to make a sequel too soon and kill WoW population.

But the descending curve is getting more consistent every year it pasts for WoW and Blizzard knows that now it is a matter of time before WoW will drop its player base dramatically.
It will take another 3-5 years for this to happen, which is about the time it takes to develope a new MMORPG.

So the time is right now for Blizzard to start developing WoW 2 and start thinking about turning WoW into F2P.

So is Blizzard hiring for WoW F2P or WoW 2?
Most probably both.

borghive49

ste2000 said:

WoW 2 is going to happen there is not doubt about it.

Business wise it would not make sense not to make one.
Every blockbuster hit had its sequel (I am talking mainly about Movies), that's how the entertainment industry works.

The question is when?
Problem with making a sequel in the MMORPG industry is that unlike movies you could kill your player base with a new product.
Blizzard are not so stupid to make a sequel too soon and kill WoW population.

But the descending curve is getting more consistent every year it pasts for WoW and Blizzard knows that now it is a matter of time before WoW will drop its player base dramatically.
It will take another 3-5 years for this to happen, which is about the time it takes to develope a new MMORPG.

So the time is right now for Blizzard to start developing WoW 2 and start thinking about turning WoW into F2P.

So is Blizzard hiring for WoW F2P or WoW 2?
Most probably both.

Blizzard will never make another MMO, not as long as people are eating up these boring F2P games with their over priced cash shops.  They can make these smaller games with a lot less resources and smaller dev teams that bring in some serious money.  You might not see another AAA MMO from a western developer, especially Blizzard. 

XImpalerX

I would like to see them upgrade the engine and make the graphics much better, that would basically be WoW 2

zaberfangx

XImpalerX said:

I would like to see them upgrade the engine and make the graphics much better, that would basically be WoW 2

There away upgrading there engine little by little they have to many people on older hardware or low power ones.

borghive49

DMKano said:

borghive49 said:

ste2000 said:

WoW 2 is going to happen there is not doubt about it.

Business wise it would not make sense not to make one.
Every blockbuster hit had its sequel (I am talking mainly about Movies), that's how the entertainment industry works.

The question is when?
Problem with making a sequel in the MMORPG industry is that unlike movies you could kill your player base with a new product.
Blizzard are not so stupid to make a sequel too soon and kill WoW population.

But the descending curve is getting more consistent every year it pasts for WoW and Blizzard knows that now it is a matter of time before WoW will drop its player base dramatically.
It will take another 3-5 years for this to happen, which is about the time it takes to develope a new MMORPG.

So the time is right now for Blizzard to start developing WoW 2 and start thinking about turning WoW into F2P.

So is Blizzard hiring for WoW F2P or WoW 2?
Most probably both.

Blizzard will never make another MMO, not as long as people are eating up these boring F2P games with their over priced cash shops.  They can make these smaller games with a lot less resources and smaller dev teams that bring in some serious money.  You might not see another AAA MMO from a western developer, especially Blizzard. 

It's about expanding the portfolio via diversity. 

Blizzard has a MMORPG, they added a card game, MOBA, arena shooter, they also have a top tier ARPG and RTS.

It would make zero business sense to do another 500mil+ AAA mmorpg at this time, too much money for a genre with a declining player interest.

Blizzard will add games that expand their playerbase - so something they don't have currently. 

I think WoW is going to see some love again personally. I think they realized that, like you said DMK, that they already have a decent MMO that makes money, and that making another MMO would just be silly.
I also think that when Warlords launched they were kind of surprised quite a bit  by the initial reception. I mean they managed to pull back around 3ish million players back. I understand that they these numbers quickly tailed off, but it kind of showed that WoW still has some legs and some interest still left. That is why they have doubled their team now and looks like Legion might actually be a decent expansion.

ste2000

borghive49 said:

ste2000 said:

Blizzard will never make another MMO, not as long as people are eating up these boring F2P games with their over priced cash shops.  They can make these smaller games with a lot less resources and smaller dev teams that bring in some serious money.  You might not see another AAA MMO from a western developer, especially Blizzard. 

You are greatly understimating the money making machine WoW is.
In its prime WoW was making roughly £ 1.5 Billions a year only in subscriptions without taking into consideration the expansions.
Do you know how much is $ 1.5 Billion in a year, for a single game, multiplied for 10 years?
Skyrim (one of the most successful single player games ever made) total sales were less than that, and you need to consider that's just how much WoW was making in a single year.
Blizzard basically made 10 Skyrims with a single investment of $ 100 Millions, how about that as an investment?

WoW is the most profitable entertainment product of all time (Games, Music, Movies) there is nothing that come close to it, and the reason why big AAA company invested in the MMO market.
Why do you think EA invested 100 millions on SWTOR?
They could have easily made another KOTOR with less investment and better margin profit, instead they wanted to hit the big money  jackpot, like Blizzard did.

Blizzard is diversifying its portfolio like any big corporation would do, so they are covering all bases.
The reason why Blizzard seemed uninterested in the MMO market is because they can seat on their asses milking their fat money cow, they don't need to worry about the MMO market (not yet), they got it well covered, at least for another couple of years.

WoW 2 is going to be made, even if it makes half the money of the original, revenue wise  it has the potential to dwarf any other entertainment product on the market.......yet again.

borghive49

ste2000 said:

borghive49 said:

ste2000 said:

Blizzard will never make another MMO, not as long as people are eating up these boring F2P games with their over priced cash shops.  They can make these smaller games with a lot less resources and smaller dev teams that bring in some serious money.  You might not see another AAA MMO from a western developer, especially Blizzard. 

You are greatly understimating the money making machine WoW is.
In its prime WoW was making roughly £ 1.5 Billions a year only in subscriptions without taking into consideration the expansions.
Do you know how much is $ 1.5 Billion in a year, for a single game, multiplied for 10 years?
Skyrim (one of the most successful single player games ever made) total sales were less than that, and you need to consider that's just how much WoW was making in a single year.
Blizzard basically made 10 Skyrims with a single investment of $ 100 Millions, how about that as an investment?

WoW is the most profitable entertainment product of all time (Games, Music, Movies) there is nothing that come close to it, and the reason why big AAA company invested in the MMO market.
Why do you think EA invested 100 millions on SWTOR?
They could have easily made another KOTOR with less investment and better margin profit, instead they wanted to hit the big money  jackpot, like Blizzard did.

Blizzard is diversifying its portfolio like any big corporation would do, so they are covering all bases.
The reason why Blizzard seemed uninterested in the MMO market is because they can seat on their asses milking their fat money cow, they don't need to worry about the MMO market (not yet), they got it well covered, at least for another couple of years.

WoW 2 is going to be made, even if it makes half the money of the original, revenue wise  it has the potential to dwarf any other entertainment product on the market.......yet again.

WoW 2 is never going to happen, you need to do some research my friend.  I hate to break it to you, but the AAA mmo market is done. Maybe an indie studio might strike gold, but based on what I have seen from the current crop of indie MMOs, I seriously doubt it.  

ste2000

borghive49 said:

WoW 2 is never going to happen, you need to do some research my friend.  I hate to break it to you, but the AAA mmo market is done. Maybe an indie studio might strike gold, but based on what I have seen from the current crop of indie MMOs, I seriously doubt it.  

You make no sense at all.
Let see your research then, which evidence do you have to support MMOs are dead.
I can agree that the current MMO industry is dead......the industry killer though, WoW,  is pretty much alive and kicking, even though it is losing ground.
The industry just gave up on chasing WoW success, and they are shifting their money somewhere else, that's why it looks pretty dead around here, not certainly because the MMO market got any smaller, in fact it is still increasing at a steady peace.

I showed you numbers which are difficult to argue with since it is basic maths (number of subscribers x $ 15)
WoW is the most profitable entertaiment product ever released, are you going to argue with that?
And if so, let's see some numbers, not just perceptions.

I don't think you read my post apart the first paragraph, because if you did you would know  there is no business  so insane to ignore the massive amount of revenue WoW created for Blizzard during all this years.........nothing can compare to it anywhere in the entertainment industry.

Wow is currently dominating/killing the MMO industry, when the game will get too old and its player base leave in droves, Blizzard and the other AAA companies will move in to fill the gap.
You are naive to think that's not going to happen.

gervaise1

Nanfoodle said:

Game companies hire and let go of staff all the time. Its the way if this industry. 

Indeed.
Any company - not just games companies - have staff turn over. Not only do employers let staff go / hire but employees move on, retire, illness, children and so forth. If a company manages 4% retention loss a year it is doing very well; higher is not uncommon.

zaberfangx

If blizzard started to make wow2, will takes them next 5 to 8 years for it to come out it's pretty long time with no return and market is changing. Why titan didn't plan out for them so well. And that was there next mmo for them.

Still not sure what a wow 2 will bring to the table if not been done and can't be done with the wow they have now.

Stormsone

Slow news day is my first thought. Second one would be I could care less, or maybe that was the first thought.

Loke666

Sovrath said:

I don't think they are going to do a "WoW 2".

It would cannibalize their current player base and it seems after they spent a lot of time (and I presume "money) on Titan only to cancel it that they might not be all that interested in creating in a traditional mmo (or any mmo?) anymore.

We are talking about Blizzard here and they love sequels. The question is more when but your cannibalizing point is right so it wont be until Wows sub numbers get really low.

In this case I think it is more about filling places for people who left, few humans stay in the same job for 11 years no matter what job they have.

finefluff

Warcraft 4

Jermzy

Burger King is hiring.  Whopper 2?