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Lord.Bachus
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we saw an expansion in 2015
and the revival of the movies.
so how is the game doing right now?
and the revival of the movies.
so how is the game doing right now?
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
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Personly i'm not sure the direction swtor is heading with 4.0 was the right one, but only time will tell. Not that 4.0 didn't bring anything good, but for me the good dont outweigh the bad.
There was certainly an increase in player numbers when KotFE released, to the point that some servers had small login queues at that time but since then those numbers seem to have settled down. Apparently there has been no advertising campaign to tie in with the new movie, they didnt even do anything special in game (just double xp event running since movie premiere).
From my point of view the expansion just didnt bring enough to keep people playing.
There was almost nothing new on MMO side of game - no new operations, warzones, one new "flashpoint" (but it is 2 person flashpoint that can be done with companion) - they just boosted all previously existing operations and hard mode flashpoints to level 65. Latest information we have is they are working on new warzone, but nothing about new flashpoints or operations.
The RPG side of game - the story - is pretty good, however it is relatively short - currently available Chapters 1-9 can be done in 8-15 hours of gameplay. The story is the same no matter which class you play or whether you are Empire or Republic so replayability factor is very low. Also due to game being MMORPG the "choices matter" thing doesnt really work, so far making different choices results mostly in different cutscenes and companion refusing to romance your character.
There were also multiple issues in months after release - level 60 boost bugs, Companion nerf, reduced number of items in Cartel Packs, Bounty Hunting and Rakghoul events not starting in early December and Bioware saying they wont fix it until January because they are on holidays.
With all that happening it seems many long time players are leaving the game, if you played the game for last couple of years there is simply not enough new things to do. It remains to be seen whether new players coming to game from release of movies will be enough to keep healthy population.
The last time that I played the game which was the Galactic Starfighter expansion, there would regularly be 200 people on fleet, or even multiple instances of fleet.
I downloaded the game last week when I got my new SSD, and there are about 60-80 people on fleet during prime time for that server and only one instance.
Not only that, but every aspect of playing my characters have changed. I have to fundamentally relearn all of my characters again. My Vigilant Knight, for instance, used to be a DoT single target DPS beast. Now, from what I'm reading, the Vigilant Knights are shit at Single Target DPS and great at AoE... well that's not why I built him that way ffs, BioWare.
Its 11am on New Year's Day there are four instances in the fleet right now....
As for your toon ever mmorpg has class changes. In 3.0 your toon according to Duffy did a 7 for single target dps and an 8 for AOE. In 4.0 you do a 6 for single target and a 10 for AOE so instead of "reading " the toxic forums how about you try and playing to toon before you QQ about it. Because no it doesn't go "shit" single target damage compared to 3.0.
They're all still at the theatre watching the movie for the third time... or playing with their BB-8 Droids that they bought for Christmas. By the time they tire of this, they won't be interested in SWTOR.
If you want to champion the game you might try being a good ambassador for the community.
2. You added housing but it's "hooks". Basically it's a method "just so I can say we did it". It's lazy and it's crap and you know it. Housing isn't just for displaying trophies, you know. I should not be forced to place anything in any location. You want better reviews on this? Since SWG no longer exists, go take a look at EQ2. I reestablished my account there and have been so busy decorating that I now have THREE houses I'm working on at once and have done nothing else in about 8 months but that. And I can turn everything 360 degrees and upside down, then on the x,y,z axis. You have static housing just like they do, it shouldn't be hard to do.
3. The new expansion is great. It's the first time in a long time that I've been excited to experience the Star Wars storyline in that game. But there is a problem. Your character now automatically lowers level to go to any original game zone making it much harder to complete quests. Really? Why am I not being give the OPTION to do this rather than having forced on me?
4. The new content can be finished in hours for each chapter. Great... new content. But when it lasts only a few hours, IT'S NOT LONG ENOUGH or the content isn't being released quick enough.
5. The allure of flashpoints (or rather, raids) has long gone poof. And I don't like pvp. There is nothing for me to do at end game.
I let my account lapse on that game so it's gone to premium. I'll give it a few more months then come back to actually play more than a few hours of new content a month. So it will take me a week, then I'll be right back to where I started now.
The game would have been better off not being released as an MMO but as a single player game like KOTOR and KOTOR2. In spite of your accomplishments with increasing the value of your companions, and the excellent video conversations you can have with almost anyone (except for the new content which you decided to cheap out on so you didn't have to pay voice actors and developers to create the videos for. Yes, that's right, I'm not stupid. I know why you did it. And it's not to "resemble the old games" like you claim), this game isn't very good. Why not release a game like the old ones but allowing for people to mod it where you didn't with the old games the way we can with most new ones including Mass Effect and Dragon Age? This game is wasted as an MMO.
Don't even want to point out the "Sub from this date to that date" campaign. Are you really trying to convince everyone, that is the sign of a healthy game?
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The servers I play on are nice and busy, which I'll take as an indication of how the game is doing over forum whining any day. Especially here where you have certain people who show up in every thread to express how much they want this game to be dead so that they can have a SWG 2.0. (which I doubt would happen even IF Swtor died xD).
The whole "stay subbed from x until y" also isn't anything new. Blizzard did it long before them with "Stay subbed for a year, and you'll get Diablo 3 for free!" (Along with MoP beta access and possibly the expansion itself). It's a valid strategy because it often works. Granted, Blizzard did it better. Unless Bioware reveals some really nifty rewards in the coming months, not many will care about the whole promotion.
For me it doesn't change anything, I'm subbed anyway. And if for some reason I lose interest, I'll go play something else.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
When i played i got a BH upto 50 and stopped playing, (couldn't warrant having something like 6 subs per month whilst a student) in that time i pretty much forgot about the game.
However, since ive come back ive honestly enjoyed it, yes the game does have some problems
The fact that im only on Hoth in my storyline and yet im about to hit level 64, which means a lot of going to content that in some cases is almost 30 levels below me, which makes me rather overpowered.
^^ is probably my biggest bug bear
Then we have the fact that so far most of it i have been able to do solo with nothing but Sith Lightsaber and a healer companion , the content needs more challenge, granted i dont like to 'forced group' but not having to group with anyone is a bit of disappointment even the ship instances (forgot their names) that used to have to be group can now be solo'd as you get a droid NPC that kicks ass.
^^ This i can see be a major problem for some players, but for me i dont mind
However, Some of the plus points are that as a MMO the storyline and fact that all missions (for me so far) are voice acted with cut scenes makes a big change from not bother to read a 'balloon' of text, i now find myself actually watching the scenes and having ull dialogue.
I have been given quests to goto the new storyline due to my levels, but am purposely holding back as i want to experience the storylines in their original order (in terms of story not difficulty)
I dont PvP so cannot comment on this, i may find myself having a go
Ive not yet done any spaceship combat, but from what i see and what i remember there seems far more missions, but as people on here stated once you have done them 1 or 2 they can become rather tedious, but i will leave judgement until i give them a bash.
In terms of numbers, whilst the servers are not busy / busling hives of activity there is plenty enough people flying about that you can conversation and quick groups for bosses etc, whilst not having to wait around for the spawns for your own missions, Also at moment its worth noting that due to holiday season most MMO tend to have a drop in numbers etc.
But, one thing i will add, that i think a LOT OF PEOPLE are forgetting that whilst there is a f2p or a freemium version of the game, this game is still Sub based game, when you sub you get the existing added content for free, which for me is a big plus. I would say the f2p is more an unlimited trial with some restrictions, but for a sub based game its still fun.
Longevity i cannot comment on but so far so good, but like a lot of people im probably most likely going to play/wait until Black desert comes out, then i will see how i feel about SWTOR
This post is all my opinion, but I welcome debate on anything i have put, however, personal slander / name calling belongs in game
where of course you're welcome to call me names im often found lounging about in EvE online.
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Probably watch ep. 7 again, but without 3d this time.
And yeah, I played SWTOR, but it's a restricted themepark without open worlds, and it's pre-original saga.
I like stormtroopers, Tie-Fighters, X-wings, original saga music etc etc etc.
Tbh, I would like to play Star Wars Galaxies even more before returning to SWTOR.
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Of course like all mmo's it has it's issues and some of Bioware's decisions like the companion God mode - mega nerf - buff again maneuver made things "interesting" on the forums.
A casual subscriber starting now or returning after an absence has plenty of content to keep him / herself busy.
To the F2P players demanding more stuff: /shoo.. freeloaders do not get to ask for anything, you play 8 class story lines for free which is way more than you deserve. Same applies to the ones who became preferred with a 5 euro purchase from the CM and think that these 5 bucks entitle them to everything.
You like the game, subscribe. You do not like the game, find something else.
it is free to play. You can play a lot of the game without paying a cent. Do they have restrictions? Sure, why should freeloaders get everything they want?
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My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/