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PC Gamer Blade & Soul review. 5/10.

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  • unfilteredJWunfilteredJW Member RarePosts: 398
    To all the people complaining about the boobs in B&S, all my characters are female Gon, Yun, and Jin and they all have the smallest breast size available.

    Kudos to NCSOFT and Team Bloodlust for making a great character creator full of sliders and choices. Just because you can slide the boob scale all the way to the right to the right doesnt mean you have to do it. The option is there and im glad it is there even if i dont use it. 

    The last thing i want is restricted content/features in my games. Be mature about it and create the character you like.

    They also added an awesome feature to the game that lets you hide other people from your screen so you dont have to see what you dont like to see.

    Says the person with Quiet as an avatar =D


    Just kidding I agree with your post.
    :dizzy: 
    i havent met Quiet in game (Witcher 3 took me completely out of MGSV lol) but i have a soft spot for Stefanie Joosten <3

    But yeah, we choose what we like, but glad to see more options exist even if we dont use them.

    I dont go around telling big breasted woman to remove them in real life. And there are many sad looking ones out there. The ones in game are fine.
    To paraphrase Venture Bros, "Her tits are sad. They look like two suicide notes taped to a wall. Those are some morose tits."

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  • Colt47Colt47 Member UncommonPosts: 549
    If only them one million people cared.......
    It's like Dynasty Warriors.  People will always buy it even if it isn't the most exciting game because it's familiar.  Keep in mind China is a big market and they didn't have access to game consoles, so for them a lot of the cheesecake filler games have been online titles like this one.  In the USA we've had consoles for ages, so there's a not so small number of Americans who just can't figure out what makes these games so successful.
  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    edited January 2016
    Torval said:

    It's not boob size. A few games have boob sliders. It's that they bounce ridiculously around in a totally weird way. Big boobs don't jiggle like that. Both in BnS and Skyforge it's like the bewbs are randomly and independently exploring the space around them totally oblivious that they're attached to another object.
    I agree they havent nailed breast jiggle physics, but hey, as a third person game the most seen part of your character should be the back :p i dont even see the boobs unless i stop moving and turn the camera around. At least we dont have to look at those strange jiggles while running and fighting.




  • AnnwynAnnwyn Member UncommonPosts: 2,854
    scorpex-x said:
    If only them one million people cared.......
    Just a little comparison for you.

    PSO2 has 1 million players and only exists in Japan.
    " The game is currently only available commercially in Japan and Southeast Asia, but an English-language patch is available."

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantasy_Star_Online_2

    "open mouth, insert foot"

    You are a constant source of entertainment for me. Just wanted you to know.
    Just figured I'd put this out there, but for the record, the English-language pack is not an official one, but one created and updated by fans, which requires a third-party launcher from which to launch the official game. The game also does not accept currency other than Japanese currency, so in order to purchase anything you have to register to about 2-3 different services to convert your USD to Yen, purchasing points and finally using those points to buy items in that game. The game could also only be played using a proxy until 2014 or 2015 I think after which they (finally) removed the IP Restrictions. Still, the English population is extremely small and self-limited to a particular server and 2-3 channels.
  • Colt47Colt47 Member UncommonPosts: 549
    I didn't think the breast physics was any worse than Soul Calibur or Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball 2.  Then again, those games had boobs that wanted to escape from their torsos and go flying into the atmosphere like flubber.
  • LacedOpiumLacedOpium Member EpicPosts: 2,327

    You can tell when a review is BS when what fuels the thread is the fact that most posters disagree withthe review rather than agree with it.  The reviewer fails to recognize the fact that BnS is not, and was never meant to be, a full-featured MMORPG yet he down-rates the game because it isn't a full featured MMORPG.  It is a hybried MMORPG/Action fighter RPG.  A good reviewer reviews a game for what it is, what it does, and how it does them, not for what it isn't, what it doesn't do, and how it doesn't do them.
  • Righteous_RockRighteous_Rock Member RarePosts: 1,234
    I like boobs
  • scorpex-xscorpex-x Member RarePosts: 1,030
    edited January 2016
    scorpex-x said:
    If only them one million people cared.......
    Just a little comparison for you.

    PSO2 has 1 million players and only exists in Japan.
    " The game is currently only available commercially in Japan and Southeast Asia, but an English-language patch is available."

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantasy_Star_Online_2

    "open mouth, insert foot"

    You are a constant source of entertainment for me. Just wanted you to know.
    The number I gave was back when it was JP only and there was no patch so you're wrong my friend.  PSO2 now has "3.5 million registered users as of Aug 2015"

    Wait did I say registered users, I'm all confused seeing you.  Does that mean subscribers?!

    Teala said:
    Really only a 52 out of 100?  I'd give this game a score of no less than 80.   And that would be a high score coming from me.   I dunno what the writer was thinking but B&S is one of the best MMORPG's to come out in years.   It is loads better than ESO, SWTOR and GW2. 
    And people stopped reading you're white knight post exactly right here. 

    GG.
    Did you just call someone else a white knight?  LOL
  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Member RarePosts: 1,607
    Bill's got the right of it, I had no say in those older games scores. But I do think that its worth understanding that games are scored based on the larger context of what they exist in. I won't comment on whether or not I agree with what PCG gave WildStar or SWTOR in terms of scores, but those were also games that launched years ago and didn't feel nearly as tired at the time as Blade and Soul does now (for me).
    Blade&Soul has been around for almost four years. If you were to have reviewed this game four years ago, would you have given it a 50/100?
  • GroqstrongGroqstrong Member RarePosts: 825
    I quit at lvl 22. 
  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
    I like boobs

  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,772
    edited January 2016
    Amathe said:
    It's not realistic and its artistic intent is entirely moot. 
    The game has miniature mouse eared humanoids with tails casting spells, but it was the boobies that threw off the realism? 
    Fantasy settings, to qualify, require necessarily unbelievable items such as spells or inhuman characters.


    They do not require unnecessarily unbelievable items, such as impossibly large breasts or, say as a completely random example of another way in which this could be applied, male characters with genitals the size of melons.
    Giant swards cool though?
    I prefer realistically sized swords, yea.

    And if we're being totally honest, unless it was done in the interest of humor, not a single person would try to defend Joe Orc-with-the-Melon-Testicles.  There'd be nothing but cries of "wtf?" and "why would they do that?" and "that looks so stupid."
    Breasts are shown off, balls are not.  They're simply exaggerating the appealing qualities that are usually shown off.

    It's accepted that every guy can look like the Rock in an RPG, but if a girl looks like a porn star it's way out of bounds...

    Anyway, huge boobs are not exactly new in video games.

    As for the jiggling, boobs do move when they're not in a bra.  Do you see bras on any of these women?

    Sure it's exaggerated, but it's a cultural thing.  Far East Culture is strange and wondrous.



  • fodell54fodell54 Member RarePosts: 865
    Meh. I'm still having fun.
  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    You can tell when a review is BS when what fuels the thread is the fact that most posters disagree withthe review rather than agree with it.  The reviewer fails to recognize the fact that BnS is not, and was never meant to be, a full-featured MMORPG yet he down-rates the game because it isn't a full featured MMORPG.  It is a hybried MMORPG/Action fighter RPG.  A good reviewer reviews a game for what it is, what it does, and how it does them, not for what it isn't, what it doesn't do, and how it doesn't do them.
    Calling BS on that.  How much did they charge for the so called founders pack?  non-full-featured, are you kidding me.

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  • gandlesgandles Member UncommonPosts: 89
    This game is garbage, repetitious, boring and a waste of time and/or money. But if like it kudos to you and yours.
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    I'd just be an adult and realize I though something looked silly, and move on.

    That's a lie. I would have a dwarf with enormous balls.
    I'm gonna be honest: I think that's friggin' awesome.  And would love it.  But it's done for the laughs, still.  ;)

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    I prefer realistically sized swords, yea.

    And if we're being totally honest, unless it was done in the interest of humor, not a single person would try to defend Joe Orc-with-the-Melon-Testicles.  There'd be nothing but cries of "wtf?" and "why would they do that?" and "that looks so stupid."
    Breasts are shown off, balls are not.  They're simply exaggerating the appealing qualities that are usually shown off.

    It's accepted that every guy can look like the Rock in an RPG, but if a girl looks like a porn star it's way out of bounds...

    Anyway, huge boobs are not exactly new in video games.

    As for the jiggling, boobs do move when they're not in a bra.  Do you see bras on any of these women?

    Sure it's exaggerated, but it's a cultural thing.  Far East Culture is strange and wondrous.

    I won't disagree it's a cultural thing.  But in their culture, it's a very sexist idea.  You can't really defend that.  They don't overly sexualize male characters by making their testicles huge (see my previous responses).  The only characters that get exaggerated sexual features are the women.

    The fact that breasts are shown off, balls are not is irrelevant, because it speaks to a deeper issue among society about the assumed sexual advertisement among men and women.  It's just that Asians prefer to be all Gung ho (no pun intended) about it.  That doesn't make it okay or something I should simply ignore or discount within a game.

    It won't prevent me from playing a game altogether.  However, I find it rather superfluous and (quite honestly) childish.  Why?  Because the last time my imagination was used to picture every female I knew with stupidly large female sex traits, I was, like, 14.


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  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Member RarePosts: 1,607
    I prefer realistically sized swords, yea.

    And if we're being totally honest, unless it was done in the interest of humor, not a single person would try to defend Joe Orc-with-the-Melon-Testicles.  There'd be nothing but cries of "wtf?" and "why would they do that?" and "that looks so stupid."
    Breasts are shown off, balls are not.  They're simply exaggerating the appealing qualities that are usually shown off.

    It's accepted that every guy can look like the Rock in an RPG, but if a girl looks like a porn star it's way out of bounds...

    Anyway, huge boobs are not exactly new in video games.

    As for the jiggling, boobs do move when they're not in a bra.  Do you see bras on any of these women?

    Sure it's exaggerated, but it's a cultural thing.  Far East Culture is strange and wondrous.

    I won't disagree it's a cultural thing.  But in their culture, it's a very sexist idea.  You can't really defend that.  They don't overly sexualize male characters by making their testicles huge (see my previous responses).  The only characters that get exaggerated sexual features are the women.

    The fact that breasts are shown off, balls are not is irrelevant, because it speaks to a deeper issue among society about the assumed sexual advertisement among men and women.  It's just that Asians prefer to be all Gung ho (no pun intended) about it.  That doesn't make it okay or something I should simply ignore or discount within a game.

    It won't prevent me from playing a game altogether.  However, I find it rather superfluous and (quite honestly) childish.  Why?  Because the last time my imagination was used to picture every female I knew with stupidly large female sex traits, I was, like, 14.


    Why are you talking about balls like they're some sensual thing to look at and be shown off? Breasts are beautiful. Balls are not. Besides, breast cleavage is a thing that gets shown off in every day life. Ball cleavage gets you arrested. 
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    edited January 2016
    Why are you talking about balls like they're some sensual thing to look at and be shown off? Breasts are beautiful. Balls are not. Besides, breast cleavage is a thing that gets shown off in every day life. Ball cleavage gets you arrested. 
    And how does that not prove my point?  (btw, moose-knuckles begs to differ with your last sentence, even if no skin is actually exposed ;) )  How do you know my girlfriend doesn't look at my balls as a sensual thing?  How do you know she doesn't admire my schlong?  She just doesn't insist that her favorite shows include dudes bulging in leather pants.

    It's a sexist issue that Asian culture takes to the extreme.  I, personally, don't want females advertising their cleavage to anyone at work (as it distracts from productivity unless cleavage happens to be a muse for someone), nor is it required for me to acknowledge any female in a social setting.  You're (and by that, I mean Asian culture) taking a sex trait and using it to define an entire gender of characters in a fictional body of work (due to its vast prevalence).  Sorry, but I don't need that in my games to get me to play.  In fact, it has the opposite effect (but I'm an ass man, so maybe I'm biased there?).

    I don't walk into a bar refusing to talk to any girl whose boobs aren't literally back-breaking.  I don't want that level of cleavage to be shown at my work.  In fact, even in those Asian countries, they wouldn't allow such cleavage at work, either.  It's only within the Anime and video games that they include such incredibly busty characters.  It's not a "fact of life" over there any more than it's a fact of life here in America that male actors show off the aforementioned moose-knuckle.  Which is to say, it's not a fact of life at all, it's just the result of a predominantly male industry intertwining their fantasies with the entertainment they produce.

    EDIT- Allow me to clarify my last sentence of my second paragraph: I won't immediately uninstall a game due to large female breasts.  They just have the opposite effect of enticing me to play.  A game's merits will always outweigh this (unless it becomes gross).
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  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Member RarePosts: 1,607
    Why are you talking about balls like they're some sensual thing to look at and be shown off? Breasts are beautiful. Balls are not. Besides, breast cleavage is a thing that gets shown off in every day life. Ball cleavage gets you arrested. 
    And how does that not prove my point?  (btw, moose-knuckles begs to differ with your last sentence, even if no skin is actually exposed ;) )  How do you know my girlfriend doesn't look at my balls as a sensual thing?  How do you know she doesn't admire my schlong?  She just doesn't insist that her favorite shows include dudes bulging in leather pants.

    It's a sexist issue that Asian culture takes to the extreme.  I, personally, don't want females advertising their cleavage to anyone at work (as it distracts from productivity unless cleavage happens to be a muse for someone), nor is it required for me to acknowledge any female in a social setting.  You're (and by that, I mean Asian culture) taking a sex trait and using it to define an entire gender of characters in a fictional body of work (due to its vast prevalence).  Sorry, but I don't need that in my games to get me to play.  In fact, it has the opposite effect (but I'm an ass man, so maybe I'm biased there?).

    I don't walk into a bar refusing to talk to any girl whose boobs aren't literally back-breaking.  I don't want that level of cleavage to be shown at my work.  In fact, even in those Asian countries, they wouldn't allow such cleavage at work, either.  It's only within the Anime and video games that they include such incredibly busty characters.  It's not a "fact of life" over there any more than it's a fact of life here in American that male actors show off the aforementioned moose-knuckle.
    I like boobs. 
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    I like boobs. 
    I'm gonna be honest: there's no argument I can mount against this opinion. ;)

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  • PsYcHoGBRPsYcHoGBR Member UncommonPosts: 482
    Harsh review I think the game should have been 70+. It's not perfect but its not bad either PC gamer has given higher scores to games that are no where near as good as B&S and i'm on about new release's aswell as older games. As for one of the main criticism's about questing and hubs go kill 10 of these go fetch x most mmo's have this system. Will be interesting to see what PC gamer give wow's Legion when it comes out.
  • ThaneThane Member EpicPosts: 3,534
    i'd give it a 7/10 :)

    just for the combat and visuals.

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  • svandysvandy Member UncommonPosts: 277
    I think the logic behind the score (boobs) is pretty stupid, but I think the score is fair. I couldn't even make it to level 10 before I had to quit from boredom. Also, what the hell is it with asian games and their completely insane UI that spams shit at you nonstop?

    I'm sure people will say you can't judge an MMO in the first 10 levels, but if the game can't even keep me interested that long, it is not a worthwhile time investment from my standpoint.

    Also... on the combat... I don't see what is so special about it. It is basically a slightly more complicated Tera. I can see it being great in PVP, but for PVE... meh? I mean if the content to go with it was worthwhile, it would be great, but the little bit I played was so boring I felt the need to quickly go slap some paint on a wooden board and watch it dry. If all they were going for was "but the combat is fun!," for PVE, it either needs to be on par with the best RPG combat on the market (Dark Souls/Bloodborne in my opinion) or the manner in which you apply the combat needs to be engaging. Look at games like GW2 and ESO... the combat is just "meh," at best, but the questing is fun and intuitive.

    Too each their own I guess. Happy for those who waited so long for it and weren't let down.

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  • johnellisjohnellis Member UncommonPosts: 5
    In my opinion doing review of mmorpg's, that are games people play hundreds or thousands of hours, based on leveling is just stupid (like this review). Leveling in most mmorpg is not anything special (swtor 12x xp was on was fun, but then again it had way too much running around. Also Secret World is fun cos investigation quests). It should have been called "first impressions" without score. I personally don't value these "reviews" at all.

    Sure leveling can be tedious for some, but for me it wasn't too bad at all cos I like BnS combat alot. Actually because of combat (personal opinion), leveling is more enjoyable then many other mmorpg's. (I got 1x lvl50 in taiwan, 2x 45 in beta and now 3x 45 in live version). Leveling in BnS is also very quick, it can be done in 14-16 hours. Of course your first character is gonna take longer.

    I have played this game for months in Taiwan server and endgame for me is so much fun, there is alot of content coming to BnS west, like Mushin Tower (great solo pve endgame dungeon), lots of epic dungeons (taiwan has like 14-15, korea has even more pve content, like 24man raids and solo dungeons), lvl50 patch (new story, new class: warlock, 6v6 pvp battleground, more epic dungeons), there are also seasonal event dungeons that are open few weeks, need to be lvl16 or higher to enter (at least in taiwan).  

    One thing I agree in this "review" is crafting, it's very basic, bit like swtor (it just takes time). Some items do need recipes, and some are expensive (merry potters). So don't expect crafting to be like swg (still the best in any mmo).

    Few bad things about BnS: Chat is not very well done (it resets when you go pve/pvp lobby), gold seller spam (I just turn off faction and region chats), UI is not best (I would like to scale just one or two parts of UI and hide just few quests in quest log, not all)

    I have very much enjoyed BnS and will enjoy it even more when all the "new" content comes to west (starting with mushin tower on feb 10).
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