Pure gear and level based open world pvp. No fun being 1 shot or 1 shoting others. Also zerg based large scale combat that goes with it. But what can you do in a mostly Tab target, gotta gear up for PvE world.
Gear that drops from monsters. I hate it. Gear should be craftable-only in any decent (meaning that it has good crafting) MMO. This is one of the main reasons I have no desire to play WoW ever again - the design of monsters dropping gear and especially bosses dropping gear that can't be crafted and can't be surpassed by crafted gear, just totally disrespects crafting and crafters.
You know what bothered me about WOW? No treasure chests. I love them. Gear can be in a chest but for some reason WOW decided to not really have them.
I question whether you even played WoW before... they have always had treasure chests.
I don't think they have them anymore. The ones I used to grab are gone, anyway. Nothing near the Grelkins in the Night Elf starting area. No more chest near Starbreeze village, at the "named monster" camp. The one that used to be in the middle of that camp for the new Taurens is gone, too. I cold be wrong as I have not played WoW in ages, though. Did they put the chests back into the game now?
Combat-centric gameplay and progression. Really any kind of level-based progression, but especially combat-only level based progression, especially the class-based kind. Ugh. How many times do I have to play a ranger class that doesn't do any rangery things but in combat by using a bow and sometimes pets. Let me be a real fucking ranger and give me tracking and harvesting skills and shit.
Combat-centric gameplay and progression. Really any kind of level-based progression, but especially combat-only level based progression, especially the class-based kind. Ugh. How many times do I have to play a ranger class that doesn't do any rangery things but in combat by using a bow and sometimes pets. Let me be a real fucking ranger and give me tracking and harvesting skills and shit.
You know, you actually bring up an interesting point.
Why in the world did the word "Ranger" become associated with bows and pets, when it should really be weapon-neutral? All it really implies is a profession suited to wilderness survival. That should mean that the class is suited towards traps, tracking, and herbalism, not archery.
Gear that drops from monsters. I hate it. Gear should be craftable-only in any decent (meaning that it has good crafting) MMO. This is one of the main reasons I have no desire to play WoW ever again - the design of monsters dropping gear and especially bosses dropping gear that can't be crafted and can't be surpassed by crafted gear, just totally disrespects crafting and crafters.
I don't mind gear dropping from mobs that a player can see them wearing or carrying, Ie., Orks wearing armor and wielding weapons. Unrealistic stuff like gear dropping from a pig or a boar, no thanks.
Some of the mechanics I dislike are:
* On-rails hub based themeparks
* An over-abundance of quests givers at every hub with ? over their heads as opposed to just a few quest givers with lengthier, and more varied, chained quests.
* End games consisting of only raiding treadmills.
* OWPvP @ Level 30 implementation of forced PvP.
* Sudden forced grouping mechanics at specific level intervals.
* Gating mechanics, and
* Dungeons requiring pre-requisite item checks and damage meters that promote elitism.
* Poor character customization ensuring that almost everyone in the game looks the same.
There are others but the above are pretty much game-breakers for me.
Although not quite a mechanic but this too: The need to dum down difficulty so that everyone can see everything. Where the mystery of places if everyone can see it. The game need somemystery in it let it be places hard to get into do to how stong the creatures defending it are, or Mystery places that are hidden through the world or behind puzzles and so on the world needs to have mysteries.
Daily Quests. I liked FFXIV:ARR originally because it had none. Then eventually they came in or I didn't notice them right away. It just adds the feeling of "I HAVE to log in and do my dailies"
I would say cash shops and F2P, but I don't think it's a problem systemic solely to MMO's. It's definitely my least favorite trend in monetizing video games. As for MMO's specifically, it'd probably have to be linear progression and hubbing. Close behind, gear and level progression (often tied to linear progression), rather than skill progression. I'm still a believer in the UO mechanic of being given a hard capped choice from a variety of skills (traits, attributes) and allowing the manner in which I play them, and their frequency, to determine an end result.
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not a fan of loading screens. I know they're unavoidable, but in a game like SWTOR it was one of the things i found most anoying levelling my first characters. It's abit better now but still not good.
I dont mind dayli quests so much, if they're decent quests. You need some repeatable content at endgame so it's probably come to stay and it's ok imo. It's not that a quest is repeatable that makes it bad imo, some quests are just anoying. Especially hate quest where you need to kill something for a drop and the drop% is realy low. I can accept it if i just need 1 drop and there's plenty of mobs to kill, but still not a fan.
Quests that spends alot of bagspace. (looking at you green shit of stranglethorn(wowquest))
Hate Ganking. Highlevel characters going to lowlevel zones and killing lowlevel chars. Not a big fan of world pvp anyways, but mainly because it's implemented so bad in pretty much all mmo's. World pvp can be fun, but imo most of the time it's unbalanced and just no fun.
I like ex. jumping challenges in GW2. In SWTOR, not so much. If you make jumping challenges in your mmo make sure the controls are super responsive and there's no abilitylag and serverlag.
Hate Abilitylag and serverlag but that's realy not an mmo mechanic i guess.
Combat-centric gameplay and progression. Really any kind of level-based progression, but especially combat-only level based progression, especially the class-based kind. Ugh. How many times do I have to play a ranger class that doesn't do any rangery things but in combat by using a bow and sometimes pets. Let me be a real fucking ranger and give me tracking and harvesting skills and shit.
Yea I am a true ranger fan too and what they do with them in games is
horrible, never get why they have pet companions, that is more of a
druid thing if anything. A good known example of ranger is Aragorn and
Legolas from LOTR. Tracking, stealth, knowledgeable in wilderness
survival and versatile with many weapons.
Cash shops and so-called "ftp" are just about it. It the MMO has either of those, I usually (always) say no.
Cash shop is a monetization tool not a game mechanic.
F2P is a monetization model, not a game mechanic.
Could have fooled me when Im directly lead by quest in game to a cash ahop... or items are cash shop obtainable only... or when spending directly or greatly increases unreasonable odds to gain power.
DMKano said: How you aquire a game mechanic is something else entirely.
It doesnt changa a fact that cash shops are a monetization tool and not an actual game mechanic.
Sure you are correct they are not game mechanics but if you are in fact acquiring game mechanics by purchases in cash shops I'm sure you can understand the point being made.
It's not so much the game mechanics as the fact that they are selling them. From inventory, to appearance, to economy, to progression and items it's all being sold in cash shops. I mean come on you would have to be blind not to see the affect cash shops have on game mechanics.
A lot of these games are designed to drive people to the cash shops.
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Why in the world did the word "Ranger" become associated with bows and pets, when it should really be weapon-neutral? All it really implies is a profession suited to wilderness survival. That should mean that the class is suited towards traps, tracking, and herbalism, not archery.
I don't mind gear dropping from mobs that a player can see them wearing or carrying, Ie., Orks wearing armor and wielding weapons. Unrealistic stuff like gear dropping from a pig or a boar, no thanks.
Some of the mechanics I dislike are:
* On-rails hub based themeparks
* An over-abundance of quests givers at every hub with ? over their heads as opposed to just a few quest givers with lengthier, and more varied, chained quests.
* End games consisting of only raiding treadmills.
* OWPvP @ Level 30 implementation of forced PvP.
* Sudden forced grouping mechanics at specific level intervals.
* Gating mechanics, and
* Dungeons requiring pre-requisite item checks and damage meters that promote elitism.
* Poor character customization ensuring that almost everyone in the game looks the same.
There are others but the above are pretty much game-breakers for me.
Lack of a death penalty
Although not quite a mechanic but this too: The need to dum down difficulty so that everyone can see everything. Where the mystery of places if everyone can see it. The game need somemystery in it let it be places hard to get into do to how stong the creatures defending it are, or Mystery places that are hidden through the world or behind puzzles and so on the world needs to have mysteries.
Quest grinding/themepark progression.
2. gender locked classes
3. sexulized child like races, not small or short races but races that are blatently childlike and sexulized at same time
F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
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I dont mind dayli quests so much, if they're decent quests. You need some repeatable content at endgame so it's probably come to stay and it's ok imo. It's not that a quest is repeatable that makes it bad imo, some quests are just anoying. Especially hate quest where you need to kill something for a drop and the drop% is realy low. I can accept it if i just need 1 drop and there's plenty of mobs to kill, but still not a fan.
Quests that spends alot of bagspace. (looking at you green shit of stranglethorn(wowquest))
Hate Ganking. Highlevel characters going to lowlevel zones and killing lowlevel chars. Not a big fan of world pvp anyways, but mainly because it's implemented so bad in pretty much all mmo's. World pvp can be fun, but imo most of the time it's unbalanced and just no fun.
I like ex. jumping challenges in GW2. In SWTOR, not so much. If you make jumping challenges in your mmo make sure the controls are super responsive and there's no abilitylag and serverlag.
Hate Abilitylag and serverlag but that's realy not an mmo mechanic i guess.
Yea I am a true ranger fan too and what they do with them in games is horrible, never get why they have pet companions, that is more of a druid thing if anything. A good known example of ranger is Aragorn and Legolas from LOTR. Tracking, stealth, knowledgeable in wilderness survival and versatile with many weapons.
Sure you are correct they are not game mechanics but if you are in fact acquiring game mechanics by purchases in cash shops I'm sure you can understand the point being made.
It's not so much the game mechanics as the fact that they are selling them. From inventory, to appearance, to economy, to progression and items it's all being sold in cash shops. I mean come on you would have to be blind not to see the affect cash shops have on game mechanics.
A lot of these games are designed to drive people to the cash shops.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/