[PRESS] - Chris Roberts calls people Armchair Developers!

MrSnuffles

"Now you have a million game designers, a million arm chair developers, a million CEOs [telling us what to do]," Roberts explained.

He is such a lovely person, calling people arm chair developers. Oh great Leader, show us armchair developers the way to the light!

---EDIT---

To all that think someone is offended and how calling people armchair developers is not a big deal:

1. He is running a crowd funding campaign for everyone not only for game developers.
2. According to him: "The most open development ever done in history of crowd funding"
3. You can't have "open development" and then complain about the people you invite to participate. He had to know in advance that they are not all going to be developers.
4. It is unprofessional.

I hope that settles the whole offended thing.

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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-citizen-creator-wishes-hed-explained-games-de/1100-6434856/

Have faith!

LacedOpium

He tends to forget that these are the people who gave him the money so that he can do what he is doing.  That said, his backer's unquestioned blind faith and following have given him the confidence to say and do whatever he wants with no accountability or repercussion whatsoever.  They reap what they sew.

Talonsin

Am I the only person who is mortified at the constant back and forth from Chris Roberts?  In 2013 when confronted about feature creep/stretch goals adding to delays he had this to say:

"But with each new stretch goal unlocked, and new feature implemented, some are starting to worry that bloat is creeping into the game. With no real core gameplay yet, there's a worry that adding new features and game mechanics could get in the way of the actual game that everyone is waiting for.

Chris Roberts doesn't agree.

"... we don’t commit to adding features that would hold up the game’s ability to go “live” in a fully functional state," he declared in his Chairman's letter announcing the new milestone.

Source: http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/358547,chris-roberts-addresses-feature-creep-as-star-citizen-makes-20-million.aspx


Now we have this:

"He explains that he could have done a better job informing backers that, as more money came in... the scope of the project expanded in turn.

Source: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-citizen-creator-wishes-hed-explained-games-de/1100-6434856/

Holy Cow Chris, talk about saying whatever it takes to make sales.  When it could prevent people from donating due to the large delay "stretch goals will not cause a delay" but once you get called out for taking forever and you need an excuse it suddenly changes to "Stretch goals increased the size of the game and caused delays". 

I dont know what makes me more angry, Chris Roberts saying whatever people want to hear or the big gaming sites/magazines giving him a free pass.  One legal threat to the Escapist is all it takes now a days to scare the gaming press.  What a sad state the gaming industry has found itself in. 

MrSnuffles

Talonsin said:

Am I the only person who is mortified at the constant back and forth from Chris Roberts?  In 2013 when confronted about feature creep/stretch goals adding to delays he had this to say:

"But with each new stretch goal unlocked, and new feature implemented, some are starting to worry that bloat is creeping into the game. With no real core gameplay yet, there's a worry that adding new features and game mechanics could get in the way of the actual game that everyone is waiting for.

Chris Roberts doesn't agree.

"... we don’t commit to adding features that would hold up the game’s ability to go “live” in a fully functional state," he declared in his Chairman's letter announcing the new milestone.

Source: http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/358547,chris-roberts-addresses-feature-creep-as-star-citizen-makes-20-million.aspx


Now we have this:

"He explains that he could have done a better job informing backers that, as more money came in... the scope of the project expanded in turn.

Source: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-citizen-creator-wishes-hed-explained-games-de/1100-6434856/

Holy Cow Chris, talk about saying whatever it takes to make sales.  When it could prevent people from donating due to the large delay "stretch goals will not cause a delay" but once you get called out for taking forever and you need an excuse it suddenly changes to "Stretch goals increased the size of the game and caused delays". 

I dont know what makes me more angry, Chris Roberts saying whatever people want to hear or the big gaming sites/magazines giving him a free pass.  One legal threat to the Escapist is all it takes now a days to scare the gaming press.  What a sad state the gaming industry has found itself in. 

He has demonstrably lied too many times now and it will only get worse this year. Not a single gam ing "journalist" has called him on his bullshit.

It's sad but we all knew for a while now that the gaming press suckles on the teet of publishers and developers.

Have faith!

Ghavrigg

Talonsin said:

Now we have this:

"He explains that he could have done a better job informing backers that, as more money came in... the scope of the project expanded in turn.

Somehow, this game feels more and more like a scam with every article. This quote seems like a big red flag to me, and not sure how anyone can continue to support them after such a statement. It's not that he didn't communicate effectively, but that the project supposedly expanded to such a degree without the backers knowledge, and, for all we know, could be (most likely) an outright lie and they've just been mismanaging things to the point they're struggling to get the basic features in without running out of money. Or they just prefer to keep it hyped and sell ships to dumb people rather than continue full-blown development.  

But this is just from an outsider casually watching this unfold. 

LacedOpium

The real problem is that SC's incompetence in managing this situation is no longer a revelation.  People have heard, and have pretty much accepted SC for what it is.  I doubt many people will be surprised if and when SC drops the hammer.  Backers will undoubtedly express anger, but they will hardly surprised.  SC backers are going along on fumes.  Theirs is one of hope, not of confidence.  

Scott23

MrSnuffles said:

"Now you have a million game designers, a million arm chair developers, a million CEOs [telling us what to do]," Roberts explained.

He is such a lovely person, calling people arm chair developers. Oh great Leader, show us armchair developers the way to the light!

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-citizen-creator-wishes-hed-explained-games-de/1100-6434856/

Have faith!

Uh, yeah... welcome to any MMO ever.  Read the forums for any game and you will have people railing against 'idiotic' developers that can't program right - that break as many things as they code, and can't program as well as an intern.  Also how easy it would be to add some feature or another or to squash bugs.

I only peripherally follow SC, but this statement on its face is just the truth.

Ikeda

Ghavrigg said:

But this is just from an outsider casually watching this unfold. 

I'm not an outsider.  I bought in early on.  And I'm still waiting for the game I wanted.  Not this drivel that it's turned into. 

Not a game where I have to leave my ship, fly into a space station, and have someone possibly steal my ship and leave me stranded.  Not some FPS POS.  Not some space sim where I have to run around 20 minutes just to get to a bay to ask for my ship to run 10 minutes to get to to then need to take off.  Why not add mandatory eating/sleeping/pissing while we're at it?

Realism.  It's not as fun when its reality.

I don't think we'll ever get what we asked for.  In fact, I'm thinking that even if it "does" ever show up it's just going to be like an arcade game, always asking for another .25 for one more shot.

MrSnuffles

Ghavrigg said:

Talonsin said:

Now we have this:

"He explains that he could have done a better job informing backers that, as more money came in... the scope of the project expanded in turn.

Somehow, this game feels more and more like a scam with every article. This quote seems like a big red flag to me, and not sure how anyone can continue to support them after such a statement. It's not that he didn't communicate effectively, but that the project supposedly expanded to such a degree without the backers knowledge, and, for all we know, could be (most likely) an outright lie and they've just been mismanaging things to the point they're struggling to get the basic features in without running out of money. Or they just prefer to keep it hyped and sell ships to dumb people rather than continue full-blown development.  

But this is just from an outsider casually watching this unfold. 

He already admitted that they need to keep the people paying and the Marketing Machine running"

Roberts scoffs at the notion that the company will run out of money before the final game is delivered. "It's not going to happen. We managed our expenses based on the revenue we bring in [...] If I'm not bringing in $3 million or $2 million a month, we aren't going to have as many people working on it."

source: Polygon Interview in 2015

Yeah it does have the warning signs of a Ponzi scheme.

Have faith!

MrSnuffles

Scott23 said:

MrSnuffles said:

"Now you have a million game designers, a million arm chair developers, a million CEOs [telling us what to do]," Roberts explained.

He is such a lovely person, calling people arm chair developers. Oh great Leader, show us armchair developers the way to the light!

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-citizen-creator-wishes-hed-explained-games-de/1100-6434856/

Have faith!

Uh, yeah... welcome to any MMO ever.  Read the forums for any game and you will have people railing against 'idiotic' developers that can't program right - that break as many things as they code, and can't program as well as an intern.  Also how easy it would be to add some feature or another or to squash bugs.

I only peripherally follow SC, but this statement on its face is just the truth.

He wanted "unprecedented open development" and "listen to all the fans". Calling them armchair developers is insulting and unprofessional.

Maybe he should have thought about that bevor he ran his mouth, but we all know how good he is at that, right?

Have faith!

Adjuvant1

Armchair developers don't make Time Warner cable commercials, plebs!



Present an aura of success. People will oxymoron you millions. (Did I use that word correctly? $&^% it, he didn't either. I'm a winner.)

Ghavrigg

Adjuvant1 said:

Armchair developers don't make Time Warner cable commercials, plebs!



Present an aura of success. People will oxymoron you millions. (Did I use that word correctly? $&^% it, he didn't either. I'm a winner.)

I like this. Let's spread this around as a quote.

Chris Roberts: "If Star Citizen succeeds, people will oxymoron my millions."

Adjuvant1

Ghavrigg said:

I like this. Let's spread this around as a quote.

Chris Roberts: "If Star Citizen succeeds, people will oxymoron my millions."

I suppose I should provide a source, so people aren't too confused. 7:55 on this...

Burntvet

You'd figure with ~$110 mil in funding, this guy could afford a decent PR guy/team.

And their first bit of advice to CR would be: "Shut the F@@# up! Nothing good will come from yelling at the customers!"


And yes, people have a right to speak up about forking over big money and not seeing much resembling a coherent game, yet.

MrSnuffles

Burntvet said:

You'd figure with ~$110 mil in funding, this guy could afford a decent PR guy/team.

And their first bit of advice to CR would be: "Shut the F@@# up! Nothing good will come from yelling at the customers!"

And yes, people have a right to speak up about forking over big money and not seeing much resembling a coherent game, yet.

I thought Sandi Gardiner might have a degree in Public Relations. She is after all a Marine Biologist and a Business Administrator. Although no publications of here have ever surfaced or any proof of these degrees either.

She is also the best Marketing Manager since she was a little girl.

Adjuvant1

MrSnuffles said:

I thought Sandi Gardiner might have a degree in Public Relations. She is after all a Marine Biologist and a Business Administrator. Although no publications of here have ever surfaced or any proof of these degrees either.

She is also the best Marketing Manager since she was a little girl.

Foreshadowing post mortem Star Citizen?

MrSnuffles

Adjuvant1 said:

MrSnuffles said:

I thought Sandi Gardiner might have a degree in Public Relations. She is after all a Marine Biologist and a Business Administrator. Although no publications of here have ever surfaced or any proof of these degrees either.

She is also the best Marketing Manager since she was a little girl.

Foreshadowing post mortem Star Citizen?

snip...

You should watch the other videos:

http://resumes.actorsaccess.com/sandigardiner

I can't wait to see her performance in SQ42!

Have faith!

Axllow18

This forum never fails to deliver. "The head guy of a game I'm totally not interested in said a thing I don't like on an article for the game I totally know is going to fail! SCAM!!!"

I can't wait for the sunglasses bunny to pop in and tell us all to have fun so you guys can lose your shit all over again.

Gaming.Rocks2

OK now that I'm an armchair do I get to choose who would sit on my lap? Cause if that's the case I'm not complaining

Axllow18

Gaming.Rocks said:

OK now that I'm an armchair do I get to choose who would sit on my lap? Cause if that's the case I'm not complaining

I just want to know where one goes to school for airchair development. Can I get a Phd in this field? What's the salary like?

Adjuvant1

Axllow18 said:

This forum never fails to deliver. "The head guy of a game I'm totally not interested in said a thing I don't like on an article for the game I totally know is going to fail! SCAM!!!"

I can't wait for the sunglasses bunny to pop in and tell us all to have fun so you guys can lose your shit all over again.

Hey, I don't mind him, it's his scorg fervency and failure to admit factual historical accuracy.

simsalabim77

He forgot the part about a million people paying his salary. Ungrateful cretin. 

Brenics

Once again amazing, couldn't make this stuff up. Tonight seems like the beginning of the end for him. 

laserit

Think of it how you will, but he's just saying it like it is. If he called me an armchair developer he'd be absolutely right.

Funny how easily he can get a bunch of panties in a bunch.

Solar_Prophet

Adjuvant1 said:

MrSnuffles said:

I thought Sandi Gardiner might have a degree in Public Relations. She is after all a Marine Biologist and a Business Administrator. Although no publications of here have ever surfaced or any proof of these degrees either.

She is also the best Marketing Manager since she was a little girl.

Foreshadowing post mortem Star Citizen?

I am a great magician! I will transform her outfit from a prison uniform to a pinstripe suit!

0:22 Feeling a little stripey!
0:42 Back to prison with you!
1:17 Maybe I just changed her cuffs! I'll never tell!
1:48 Sadly, looks like she'll be our little jailbird after all. 

But seriously, if you're going to put something like this out there, at least get somebody competent to edit the damn thing. Neither the visuals nor dialogue sync up very well. And the acting... meh, I've seen worse. She might be acceptable for a soap opera or Siffy Channel original movie. 

Squadron 42: A SyFy Channel Original Movie does have a nice ring to it. 

Adjuvant1

I'm hoping they learned their lesson on that from Defiance.