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RPGMASTERGAMERRPGMASTERGAMER Member UncommonPosts: 516
hello

im someone with alot of money real life
someone you guys often call a ''whale''

i have spend money recently in echo of soul for get my gem +12, was killing 5-6 players solo
i have spend money before in archeage and my character was crazy strong

im a noob in most game but i can become the best in most of the f2p games im playing when im spending the money needed for get everything and become the best.
im tired of that now, people talk about most of these f2p games like they are not p2win.

they are wrong, 95% of them are p2win, with money you can make them, my character can own your character easy, i can become the best players in most of these ''fair game''

will start play black desert in exactly 3 days, will spend around 1000$ ( or more if needed )
everything for make my character level faster, or stronger

will make a video or screenshot when im max level with the time to reach max level have take me 

when the cash shop get ''updated'' with the various item from the others version, im going spend money upgrade my item to the max level

will then create a video of me owning most people i see ingame, will also post my total time played.

im doing that for help the genre, im tired spend more and more for become the best in these new f2p

they are starting to become expensive

Comments

  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    Thanks for sharing.

    I don't think there is anything that you can buy to really make your character stronger.


  • Soki123Soki123 Member RarePosts: 2,558
    He said when the cash shop gets updated" as we all know it will.
  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    Soki123 said:
    He said when the cash shop gets updated" as we all know it will.

    Updated to what? 
  • Soki123Soki123 Member RarePosts: 2,558
    read it, he says it clearly.
  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,430
    As long as others can achieve greatness through effort, I don't care if you spend your way to the top.  I don't care if you get there quicker by paying as long as I can get there through effort.  It's your money and if it makes you happy, go for it.  I also don't care if you kill me...

    Having said that, if you camp me, I care.  It's a game, and I think people get too bent out of shape because you can buy your way to the top.  Is it P2W (Play 2 Win) if you have 60 hours a week to play while I only have 3.  Do you now have an unfair advantage?


    I self identify as a monkey.

  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    edited March 2016
    Soki123 said:
    read it, he says it clearly.


    I am talking to you since you said,

    "He said when the cash shop gets updated" as we all know it will."



    Since you know,


    What specific items are on there way to the US Version Cash Shop that will make the game pay to win?


  • viletot0viletot0 Member UncommonPosts: 73
    yawn, does anyone care about this dudes epeen? 
  • Soki123Soki123 Member RarePosts: 2,558
    Recore said:
    Soki123 said:
    read it, he says it clearly.


    I am talking to you since you said,

    "He said when the cash shop gets updated" as we all know it will."



    Since you know,


    What specific items are on there way to the US Version Cash Shop that will make the game pay to win?



    We shall see, but P2W items will come when the box sales end. I ll check back in a couple months and we can chat.
  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    Soki123 said:
    Recore said:
    Soki123 said:
    read it, he says it clearly.


    I am talking to you since you said,

    "He said when the cash shop gets updated" as we all know it will."



    Since you know,


    What specific items are on there way to the US Version Cash Shop that will make the game pay to win?



    We shall see, but P2W items will come when the box sales end. I ll check back in a couple months and we can chat.

    Ok, so you dont know. 

    /sigh
  • Soki123Soki123 Member RarePosts: 2,558
    Recore said:
    Soki123 said:
    Recore said:
    Soki123 said:
    read it, he says it clearly.


    I am talking to you since you said,

    "He said when the cash shop gets updated" as we all know it will."



    Since you know,


    What specific items are on there way to the US Version Cash Shop that will make the game pay to win?



    We shall see, but P2W items will come when the box sales end. I ll check back in a couple months and we can chat.

    Ok, so you dont know. 

    /sigh

    As I said we ll chat then, you know as much as I do on the subject, so we can discuss it then.
  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    Soki123 said:
    Recore said:
    Soki123 said:
    Recore said:
    Soki123 said:
    read it, he says it clearly.


    I am talking to you since you said,

    "He said when the cash shop gets updated" as we all know it will."



    Since you know,


    What specific items are on there way to the US Version Cash Shop that will make the game pay to win?



    We shall see, but P2W items will come when the box sales end. I ll check back in a couple months and we can chat.

    Ok, so you dont know. 

    /sigh

    As I said we ll chat then, you know as much as I do on the subject, so we can discuss it then.


    Well, hold the forums down for us. 

    See you then.  B)
  • Soki123Soki123 Member RarePosts: 2,558
    Recore said:
    Soki123 said:
    Recore said:
    Soki123 said:
    Recore said:
    Soki123 said:
    read it, he says it clearly.


    I am talking to you since you said,

    "He said when the cash shop gets updated" as we all know it will."



    Since you know,


    What specific items are on there way to the US Version Cash Shop that will make the game pay to win?



    We shall see, but P2W items will come when the box sales end. I ll check back in a couple months and we can chat.

    Ok, so you dont know. 

    /sigh

    As I said we ll chat then, you know as much as I do on the subject, so we can discuss it then.


    Well, hold the forums down for us. 

    See you then.  B)
    Can t wait, this game is more entertaining outside of it, that's for sure.
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    hello

    im someone with alot of money real life
    someone you guys often call a ''whale''

    i have spend money recently in echo of soul for get my gem +12, was killing 5-6 players solo
    i have spend money before in archeage and my character was crazy strong

    im a noob in most game but i can become the best in most of the f2p games im playing when im spending the money needed for get everything and become the best.
    im tired of that now, people talk about most of these f2p games like they are not p2win.

    they are wrong, 95% of them are p2win, with money you can make them, my character can own your character easy, i can become the best players in most of these ''fair game''

    will start play black desert in exactly 3 days, will spend around 1000$ ( or more if needed )
    everything for make my character level faster, or stronger

    will make a video or screenshot when im max level with the time to reach max level have take me 

    when the cash shop get ''updated'' with the various item from the others version, im going spend money upgrade my item to the max level

    will then create a video of me owning most people i see ingame, will also post my total time played.

    im doing that for help the genre, im tired spend more and more for become the best in these new f2p

    they are starting to become expensive
    You do all wong

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  • LacedOpiumLacedOpium Member EpicPosts: 2,327

    hello

    im someone with alot of money real life
    someone you guys often call a ''whale''

    i have spend money recently in echo of soul for get my gem +12, was killing 5-6 players solo
    i have spend money before in archeage and my character was crazy strong

    im a noob in most game but i can become the best in most of the f2p games im playing when im spending the money needed for get everything and become the best.
    im tired of that now, people talk about most of these f2p games like they are not p2win.

    they are wrong, 95% of them are p2win, with money you can make them, my character can own your character easy, i can become the best players in most of these ''fair game''

    will start play black desert in exactly 3 days, will spend around 1000$ ( or more if needed )
    everything for make my character level faster, or stronger

    will make a video or screenshot when im max level with the time to reach max level have take me 

    when the cash shop get ''updated'' with the various item from the others version, im going spend money upgrade my item to the max level

    will then create a video of me owning most people i see ingame, will also post my total time played.

    im doing that for help the genre, im tired spend more and more for become the best in these new f2p

    they are starting to become expensive

    I don't know about anyone else but the objective for me in an MMORPG is overcoming challenges and achievement through personal skill, problem solving, and perseverance.  What fun is an MMORPG, or any game for that matter, if you do not challenge yourself by buying your victories and achievements?  

    Where is the fun in that?  

    I don't mean to demean or question your objective, but it's not often that we get a player to admit that they are a "whale" around these parts. So now that we have a proud one in our presence I'd just really like to know what it is that you win by spending huge amounts of money in a game that is less about winning as it is about enjoying a journey through progressive development, skill, and personal achievement. 


  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 3,100
    I am actually really looking forward to his videos, I don't think he is showing his epeen or anything. I think he/she just wants to expose how extreme forms of p2w can damage a game. 

    I don't see anything in BDO's cash shop that will allow players to become really powerful in pvp, and there appears to be no way around actually working to get gear/levels since there is no p2p trade and account selling seems extremely difficult, so his videos could well prove a good point.
    ....
  • azmundaiazmundai Member UncommonPosts: 1,419
    you couldn't spend some of that money on an english class?

    LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
    I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already :)

  • RPGMASTERGAMERRPGMASTERGAMER Member UncommonPosts: 516
    edited March 2016
    Aalamr said:
    [mod edit]
    that my third langage and most of my skill in english come from speaking experience from my job, rarely i need write in english and if i do, that will be not me who will write what i want to say.

    they are no reason trying to insult me for my writing skill in english, that far from perfect but if you can understand it ? unless you cant ?

    hello

    im someone with alot of money real life
    someone you guys often call a ''whale''

    i have spend money recently in echo of soul for get my gem +12, was killing 5-6 players solo
    i have spend money before in archeage and my character was crazy strong

    im a noob in most game but i can become the best in most of the f2p games im playing when im spending the money needed for get everything and become the best.
    im tired of that now, people talk about most of these f2p games like they are not p2win.

    they are wrong, 95% of them are p2win, with money you can make them, my character can own your character easy, i can become the best players in most of these ''fair game''

    will start play black desert in exactly 3 days, will spend around 1000$ ( or more if needed )
    everything for make my character level faster, or stronger

    will make a video or screenshot when im max level with the time to reach max level have take me 

    when the cash shop get ''updated'' with the various item from the others version, im going spend money upgrade my item to the max level

    will then create a video of me owning most people i see ingame, will also post my total time played.

    im doing that for help the genre, im tired spend more and more for become the best in these new f2p

    they are starting to become expensive

    I don't know about anyone else but the objective for me in an MMORPG is overcoming challenges and achievement through personal skill, problem solving, and perseverance.  What fun is an MMORPG, or any game for that matter, if you do not challenge yourself by buying your victories and achievements?  

    Where is the fun in that?  

    I don't mean to demean or question your objective, but it's not often that we get a player to admit that they are a "whale" around these parts. So now that we have a proud one in our presence I'd just really like to know what it is that you win by spending huge amounts of money in a game that is less about winning as it is about enjoying a journey through progressive development, skill, and personal achievement. 


    totaly agree with you im not okay with that, im guessing people have less time that mostly the reason but they still want to be the best when they play, just like many people pick the VIP option or travel in a better air class when they take a flight, they can, so they do it.

    was okay with spending money a bit, because i dont have that much time anymore to play these type of game, it was cheap before to buy into the p2win, but now each new game cost 1k or more, that expensive and they have gone to far with the lastest ''f2p'' game

    i have think it can only help show how someone with money can become the best in a f2p games, because im playing mmorpg since many year and these game are realy starting to become more p2win that the last one and the next after even worst.

    many people will not care when i post the low time played for reach max level probably, some will care when my character will stop play and restart only when they ''update the cash shop'' for become the best in less that 30 min, then others will get various feeling when they see my video of me killing most people i see ingame

    that mostly the true free to play players who will have spend no money into the game but played a whole month or 2 who will  get the most reaction im guessing.

    i dont want show off, brag, im a noob, but im feeling the genre go to far into the p2win now and it can only help people see what it look like playing such a game when you got the money to buy the best item in these cash shop.

    personaly i would like the mmorpg to go back some year before when p2win was not that bad but mostly about speeding the level up

    will necro the topic when im max level with a screenshot, then when they ''update the cash shop'' im going post my video of me killing others players with my time played again

    people will do what they want with it, im thinking it can only help the mmorpg genre a bit
    Post edited by Vaross on
  • Dragonsfire9Dragonsfire9 Member UncommonPosts: 85
    Seriously, no one cares if you spend a gajillion dollars to gank them a few times.  Who wins then? You who have spend a lot of your disposable income or the person who is just playing the game, you know, because it is fun.
  • mistmakermistmaker Member UncommonPosts: 321
    Fake alarm
  • Gaming.Rocks2Gaming.Rocks2 Member UncommonPosts: 531
    How would you know if the dude beating you has spent a lot of monies or spent a lot of time? Why having no life is ok but having monies is offensive? And why do you even care? How many people nagging about P2W have actually won a game that wasn't P2W here? 

    Hey I'm not saying P2W is a good thing. But it's evil effects have been blown way out of proportion. 

    P.S Yes I'm might have been a whale in many games, but I only spend on cosmetics. Yes I'm that shallow :|
    Gaming Rocks next gen. community for last gen. gamers launching soon. 
  • klash2defklash2def Member EpicPosts: 1,949
    COOL STORY MAN. 
    "Beliefs don't change facts. Facts, if you're reasonable, should change your beliefs."


    "The Society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."



     
    Currently: Games Audio Engineer, you didn't hear what I heard, you heard what I wanted you to hear. 


  • klash2defklash2def Member EpicPosts: 1,949
    azmundai said:
    you couldn't spend some of that money on an english class?
    you sir are a scholar and a gentleman
    "Beliefs don't change facts. Facts, if you're reasonable, should change your beliefs."


    "The Society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."



     
    Currently: Games Audio Engineer, you didn't hear what I heard, you heard what I wanted you to hear. 


  • n3v3rriv3rn3v3rriv3r Member UncommonPosts: 496
    azmundai said:
    you couldn't spend some of that money on an english class?
    LMAO. Sadly you  can't buy brains in a cash shop.  >:)
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    klash2def said:
    azmundai said:
    you couldn't spend some of that money on an english class?
    you sir are a scholar and a gentleman
    Probably not a good idea to make fun of someones command of your language, as chances are your command of their language is even worse than their command of yours. ;)
  • n3v3rriv3rn3v3rriv3r Member UncommonPosts: 496
    Phry said:
    klash2def said:
    azmundai said:
    you couldn't spend some of that money on an english class?
    you sir are a scholar and a gentleman
    Probably not a good idea to make fun of someones command of your language, as chances are your command of their language is even worse than their command of yours. ;)
    Hmm I seriously doubt that this guy can formulate a cohesive thought in his own language. Look at the structure of this op, it is a pain for the eye.
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