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Hate and Racisme on the EU servers

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  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,034
    I see where you are coming from.  Especially the name.  But, I've been here for a long time.  I definitely wasn't attempting to troll.  Just point out the obvious outcome when the kids are left alone to do whatever.  Asian mmos in the East don't really need the moderation because they don't seem to have the same issues as the western servers.  But, after so many mmos being ported to the west.  You would think at least one company would try to keep some decency in the game.  
    I agree with that. We do not have anywhere near this problem on Eastern servers. Yet when our games are ported to the West it seems the mods are never around. I do see that as a problem. Though WOW is pretty bad as well. At least they do ban and do not seem to be afraid to do so. With an Eastern port I think they are afraid to lose any people at all and by choice ignore it unless it becomes a vocal community that demands action to ban them. Which I did see in Lineage II once. 
    That's a good point and something I didn't consider.  Personally, I just avoid the general chat and enjoy the amazing mmos we are lucky enough to get ported to the West.  TBH, if I could play on the eastern serves with no lag or language issues I would.  I have a few buddies stationed in South Korea and I've been told the mmos are a different breed (in a good way).
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  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,034
    edited March 2016
    Give us a name of some Asian MMO's that are pvp centric and dont have these kind of toxic turds in them instead of just cry that there are... Don't worry...I'll wait. The one thing in this world you can defifnitly generalize are MMO'S from Asia lol. And don't get me wrong we have turds but our community managment for western MMO's is important to us and not to them thats obvious.
    Lineage
    I think he meant an Asian mmo that is actually alive in the west and not an Eastern only mmo.
    Lineage II, Aion, TERA, CABAL I have played them all in the Western releases and have not seen much of an issue. In fact I remember a fairly large guild being banned from Aion for having a name that was offensive. It took too long imo but they did it.
    Never played Lineage 2 and Aion it's been years.  But, there is no f***ing way you are going to convince me that Tera doesn't have one of the worst communities in all mmos (east or west).  I was there in closed beta till a few months after F2P full time and the game only got 100x worse the second it went F2P.  So either you are oblivious to what is going on or you are not being sincere.

    Also, does any even play Cabel? lol.
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  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,034
    I see where you are coming from.  Especially the name.  But, I've been here for a long time.  I definitely wasn't attempting to troll.  Just point out the obvious outcome when the kids are left alone to do whatever.  Asian mmos in the East don't really need the moderation because they don't seem to have the same issues as the western servers.  But, after so many mmos being ported to the west.  You would think at least one company would try to keep some decency in the game.  
    I agree with that. We do not have anywhere near this problem on Eastern servers. Yet when our games are ported to the West it seems the mods are never around. I do see that as a problem. Though WOW is pretty bad as well. At least they do ban and do not seem to be afraid to do so. With an Eastern port I think they are afraid to lose any people at all and by choice ignore it unless it becomes a vocal community that demands action to ban them. Which I did see in Lineage II once. 
    That's a good point and something I didn't consider.  Personally, I just avoid the general chat and enjoy the amazing mmos we are lucky enough to get ported to the West.  TBH, if I could play on the eastern serves with no lag or language issues I would.  I have a few buddies stationed in South Korea and I've been told the mmos are a different breed (in a good way).
    There are so many good communities around the gaming world.
    I am hopeful some of our games I am playing on servers back home will come West so I can play with my Western pals.
    I hope they come as well.  After all, the only developers still willing to make mmos are in the East.  I for one welcome our new Asian mmo masters.
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,164
    Oh yes Tera was very bad it had that pedo harassing going on. Every 2nd line was full of it. I quickly turned it off.

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  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,034
    Give us a name of some Asian MMO's that are pvp centric and dont have these kind of toxic turds in them instead of just cry that there are... Don't worry...I'll wait. The one thing in this world you can defifnitly generalize are MMO'S from Asia lol. And don't get me wrong we have turds but our community managment for western MMO's is important to us and not to them thats obvious.
    Lineage
    I think he meant an Asian mmo that is actually alive in the west and not an Eastern only mmo.
    Lineage II, Aion, TERA, CABAL I have played them all in the Western releases and have not seen much of an issue. In fact I remember a fairly large guild being banned from Aion for having a name that was offensive. It took too long imo but they did it.
    Never played Lineage 2 and Aion it's been years.  But, there is no f***ing way you are going to convince me that Tera doesn't have one of the worst communities in all mmos (east or west).  I was there in closed beta till a few months after F2P full time and the game only got 100x worse the second it went F2P.  So either you are oblivious to what is going on or you are not being sincere.

    Also, does any even play Cabel? lol.
    Since TERA has gone to Steam the community is not nearly as toxic as it used to be. Better than WOW.
     Yes Cabal is played on Steam quite a bit.
    An honest question.  Are you playing Tera on the pvp or pve server?
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  • LeiloniLeiloni Member RarePosts: 1,266
    Lunais said:
           Making this post has to be because you are bored or really sensitive, either way I will bite. People can hardly speak their minds outside anonymous circles like online games because so many things these days offend people. I am not one of those people that roll like that for its not my style but I do not go around forcing people to act a certain way. I am sure a good amount of people that behave this way in online games are really just trolling and messing around since its funny/entertaining for some of them. I do not care at all what they say and even laugh at some of the text I end up reading because its so ridiculous sounding. I suggest maybe you should just stop playing if it keeps you up at night or just grow some skin and roll with it. These are probably young lads too that are getting to you. Come on, shrug at this shit dude. 

    I would rather have more people to fight in pvp instead of banning them. I also like reading their smack talk when they lose.
    This basically is exactly what I would have said.
  • LeiloniLeiloni Member RarePosts: 1,266
    edited March 2016

    kitarad said:
    Oh yes Tera was very bad it had that pedo harassing going on. Every 2nd line was full of it. I quickly turned it off.
    I played TERA on and off for years and never saw any of that. And I primarily played an Elin on the main PvP server. In fact most players were Elin.
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  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    Rasiem said:
    Give us a name of some Asian MMO's that are pvp centric and dont have these kind of toxic turds in them instead of just cry that there are... Don't worry...I'll wait. The one thing in this world you can defifnitly generalize are MMO'S from Asia lol. And don't get me wrong we have turds but our community managment for western MMO's is important to us and not to them thats obvious.
    Generalizing is never a good thing.

    Is it fine when people call americans fat turds? No.
    Is it fine when people call all Islam people terrorists? No.
    Is it fine when people call gamers nerds nolifers? No.
    Is it fine when people call asian games grinders wow clones? No.
    I could keep on going.

    I never said east didn't have bad communities, I said both sides have bad communities AT LAUNCH. It's always a wait and see when these trolls leave the game or get forced to change or banned by the developers.

    When you have f2p games, trolls can come back over and over and that is indeed a problem.

  • cronius77cronius77 Member UncommonPosts: 1,652
    why do people think this happens just in pvp games? Its every game and the reason you see it is because the company running their game worries about money and doesnt give a damn about the community until its forced to by constant reporting or people leaving the game taking to forums complaining constantly. I have yet to play a game without offensive names and racist talk in chat, the issue is some games it goes on for a long time while others they are banned fast enough to stop it from spreading over the long term. Rift beta was probably one of the worst I seen and thats a pve game, the RP server was full of some of the most vile trolls on the internet but were quickly banned and that stopped that garbage.

    Also its funny how age seems to always be mentioned, do you really think 14 year olds are running around talking about nazi and isis? At 14 were you watching the news keeping up with current world events? I was outside playing running around camping fishing or when I was home playing video games not watching TV nor anyone I knew for that matter. Most of the idiots doing this are adults, immature ones that have the brain cells of a watermelon. They do it because they are attention whores who have low self esteem and have to constantly get attention because they have no self worth.
  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    Where exactly did I say western mmos didn't have toxic communities?  I've been playing mmos since DaoC.  I have seen my share of toxic behavior in these games.  My experience in the Asian mmos ported to the west is that they are the most toxic of all the mmo communities.  Don't believe me?  Log into Tera or B&S and the general chat will be spammed full of gold sellers and vitriol.  You really seem to be getting really defensive about this.  I'm not generalizing a race of people, just mmos.  You know games so calm down Nancy.
    Ah it's time for the defensive line because I kept on replying heh.

    I played Tera twice and while there was a comment or two regarding elin, the majority of the community wasn't toxic if anything it was talking about general stuff instead of the usual debates we get here in the west about x vs wow. B&S I didn't play for long so I'm not sure sorry.

    I played my fair share of eastern mmos from Aion to Black Desert and even "odd" ones like Cabal but the only "mmos" I can really say that have toxic communities are mobas and competitive fps games like CoD. Most mmos have these toxic people in the start, they quickly disappear once people ignore them. I honestly haven't seen any toxic topics in Black Desert for the time being other than the PronHub guild that mostly gets laughing comments than people being offended.

    But anyway I just wanted to say that maybe both of us have gone on the wrong road? I mean your first post was kinda leaning on blaming eastern mmos and maybe you didn't mean to. It's just like blueturtle said tough. I'm not defending eastern mmos, I'm just fed up on the asian hate this site loves to bring up on every subject.

    We cool?

  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Since TERA has gone to Steam the community is not nearly as toxic as it used to be. Better than WOW.
     Yes Cabal is played on Steam quite a bit.
    An honest question.  Are you playing Tera on the pvp or pve server?
    PvP server.
    Knight Online is another one played a lot on Steam and is PvP focused and has a decent community. In fact Knight Online is one of the most played games on Steam
    Knight Online might be on Steam, but its in no way popular or one of the most played.
    http://steamcharts.com/
    It does have around 16k players though.

  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    Yeah I thought it was funny when I saw (X Guild) going to war with (ISIS) the other day in game chat I was like WTF, but I just laughed at it.

    I really don't take offense to Religion, or People who do this in a game as long as they aren't really being offensive about it let them name themselves whatever they want.
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  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    AnnaTS said:
    Xarko said:
    I see and read just as much prejudice on these forums as I do in any given game I play East or West.
    The mods do a good job on here yet you still see a lot of Asian references that are derogatory in nature. As a Korean American I have been offended more than once here,other forums and in many games. East and West. I just ignore it and move on. (At least try to) 
    I have yet to understand how Can someone be offended by random tHIngs on the interNet, especially by some silly Generalizations. I personalLy have never had problems with nOt doing something so not getting offended just seems Like the easiest thing.

    I do agree mods on this site do a reasonably good job though.
    White privilige now try being a black person joining a game with loads of racist comments in chat.

    you are into roleplaying so shouldn't be hard to do.
    As he said, don't get offended. Easy peasy. The Victim Generation thing really needs to stop. Sticks and Stones is just as important to learn in grade school as the three "R's" or is that not taught anymore?

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  • suckm3suckm3 Member UncommonPosts: 187
    Where I can get that game? I want be in a Anti Islam guild! This game seems to be perfect for me! Not some emo multikulti crap community so far.. epic!

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  • AnnaTSAnnaTS Member UncommonPosts: 600
    bartoni33 said:
    AnnaTS said:
    Xarko said:
    I see and read just as much prejudice on these forums as I do in any given game I play East or West.
    The mods do a good job on here yet you still see a lot of Asian references that are derogatory in nature. As a Korean American I have been offended more than once here,other forums and in many games. East and West. I just ignore it and move on. (At least try to) 
    I have yet to understand how Can someone be offended by random tHIngs on the interNet, especially by some silly Generalizations. I personalLy have never had problems with nOt doing something so not getting offended just seems Like the easiest thing.

    I do agree mods on this site do a reasonably good job though.
    White privilige now try being a black person joining a game with loads of racist comments in chat.

    you are into roleplaying so shouldn't be hard to do.
    As he said, don't get offended. Easy peasy. The Victim Generation thing really needs to stop. Sticks and Stones is just as important to learn in grade school as the three "R's" or is that not taught anymore?
    I just have zero tolerance for any racism not something i support.
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  • NaowutNaowut Member UncommonPosts: 663
    Hate and racism on the internet. Oh no!
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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,164
    edited March 2016
    Leiloni said:

    kitarad said:
    Oh yes Tera was very bad it had that pedo harassing going on. Every 2nd line was full of it. I quickly turned it off.
    I played TERA on and off for years and never saw any of that. And I primarily played an Elin on the main PvP server. In fact most players were Elin.
    I find that a bit hard to believe.
    https://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/general-discussion/topics/A-few-bad-apples-can-ruin-the-bunch?page=1

    some comments

    Now there's a difference between a 1 off comment and going on for 10 minutes about stupid crap like pedophilia etc.


    https://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/general-discussion/topics/Worst-ingame-community-I-have-seen-in-an-MMO-yet?page=1

     The newbie area chat last night was the worst I have seen in a game yet, basically if you watched a racist porn movie that would be about what was going on. This is not just in the newbie area though, I was just there playing with a alt.


    https://www.google.it/search?client=opera&q=tera+launch+pedo+chat&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 

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