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Hate and Racisme on the EU servers

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  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    bartoni33 said:
    As he said, don't get offended. Easy peasy. The Victim Generation thing really needs to stop.
    It's easy to say don't get offended but quite hard to do on a regular bases.

    Sometimes you will have enough about people mocking your race/whatever and you will act. We are human not machines.

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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,164
    edited March 2016
    I was talking about when I played. The person I responded to said he has played over the years and never witnessed it. So I called him out on it

    Check the topic and I responded to that actor guy's post where he mentioned Tera so I expressed my own experiences in the game. 

    The topic is about racism and hate so why is it not relevant to talk about the experiences I had in Tera. Then someone comes and flat out lies about playing it for years and never,NEVER encountering it. Which is BS.

  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    AnnaTS said:
    bartoni33 said:
    AnnaTS said:
    Xarko said:
    I see and read just as much prejudice on these forums as I do in any given game I play East or West.
    The mods do a good job on here yet you still see a lot of Asian references that are derogatory in nature. As a Korean American I have been offended more than once here,other forums and in many games. East and West. I just ignore it and move on. (At least try to) 
    I have yet to understand how Can someone be offended by random tHIngs on the interNet, especially by some silly Generalizations. I personalLy have never had problems with nOt doing something so not getting offended just seems Like the easiest thing.

    I do agree mods on this site do a reasonably good job though.
    White privilige now try being a black person joining a game with loads of racist comments in chat.

    you are into roleplaying so shouldn't be hard to do.
    As he said, don't get offended. Easy peasy. The Victim Generation thing really needs to stop. Sticks and Stones is just as important to learn in grade school as the three "R's" or is that not taught anymore?
    I just have zero tolerance for any racism not something i support.
    While I agree that racism in modern society is an ignorant thought process I do not care if someone is or not as long as they do not act on it in a real, physical sense like in the workplace. But if you want to spout it in a forum or in a game then go ahead and show how backwards you are. I can take it. I don't care what your opinion of myself or anyone on this Earth is. That is a "you" problem, not a "me" problem.

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  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    Bloodaxes said:
    bartoni33 said:
    As he said, don't get offended. Easy peasy. The Victim Generation thing really needs to stop.
    It's easy to say don't get offended but quite hard to do on a regular bases.

    Sometimes you will have enough about people mocking your race/whatever and you will act. We are human not machines.
    No one should ever get "offended' by someone saying something on the Internet or in any game. Why would you care what some fucktard says? Anonymity works both ways. They don't know you so any opinion of you does not matter because it is uninformed.

    If someone was mocking you in real life to your physical face then that obviously would be a different story because you could infer that the attack is personal and therefor deserves an emotional response. What some random asshole says in chat does not deserve ANY response, especially since they are being an asshole just to get a rise from someone.

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  • XarkoXarko Member EpicPosts: 1,180
    AnnaTS said:
    Xarko said:
    AnnaTS said:
    Xarko said:
    I see and read just as much prejudice on these forums as I do in any given game I play East or West.
    The mods do a good job on here yet you still see a lot of Asian references that are derogatory in nature. As a Korean American I have been offended more than once here,other forums and in many games. East and West. I just ignore it and move on. (At least try to) 
    I have yet to understand how Can someone be offended by random tHIngs on the interNet, especially by some silly Generalizations. I personalLy have never had problems with nOt doing something so not getting offended just seems Like the easiest thing.

    I do agree mods on this site do a reasonably good job though.
    White privilige now try being a black person joining a game with loads of racist comments in chat.

    you are into roleplaying so shouldn't be hard to do.

    Some people don't understand white privilige but i get it and it's just about putting the shoe on the other foot.
    You are being racist right now and it doesnt bother me a single bit.
    sorry you will have to explain to me how i don't see it which part of what i said offended your race or should i say the same race we are i see you are white like me ?
    Im beggning to see where the problem is.
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  • AnnaTSAnnaTS Member UncommonPosts: 600
    edited March 2016
    Xarko said:
    AnnaTS said:
    Xarko said:
    AnnaTS said:
    Xarko said:
    I see and read just as much prejudice on these forums as I do in any given game I play East or West.
    The mods do a good job on here yet you still see a lot of Asian references that are derogatory in nature. As a Korean American I have been offended more than once here,other forums and in many games. East and West. I just ignore it and move on. (At least try to) 
    I have yet to understand how Can someone be offended by random tHIngs on the interNet, especially by some silly Generalizations. I personalLy have never had problems with nOt doing something so not getting offended just seems Like the easiest thing.

    I do agree mods on this site do a reasonably good job though.
    White privilige now try being a black person joining a game with loads of racist comments in chat.

    you are into roleplaying so shouldn't be hard to do.

    Some people don't understand white privilige but i get it and it's just about putting the shoe on the other foot.
    You are being racist right now and it doesnt bother me a single bit.
    sorry you will have to explain to me how i don't see it which part of what i said offended your race or should i say the same race we are i see you are white like me ?
    Im beggning to see where the problem is.
    Of course you are even when it's explained i don't really want to say anymore i am sure it's a lovely game such a shame some people have ro ruin it for others.
  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    bartoni33 said:
    Bloodaxes said:
    bartoni33 said:
    As he said, don't get offended. Easy peasy. The Victim Generation thing really needs to stop.
    It's easy to say don't get offended but quite hard to do on a regular bases.

    Sometimes you will have enough about people mocking your race/whatever and you will act. We are human not machines.
    No one should ever get "offended' by someone saying something on the Internet or in any game. Why would you care what some fucktard says? Anonymity works both ways. They don't know you so any opinion of you does not matter because it is uninformed.

    If someone was mocking you in real life to your physical face then that obviously would be a different story because you could infer that the attack is personal and therefor deserves an emotional response. What some random asshole says in chat does not deserve ANY response, especially since they are being an asshole just to get a rise from someone.
    Noone 'should' get offended but as @Bloodaxes ; said we are only human. If we spend the majority of our days online for work and for play it sometimes does reach a boiling point. Not saying that it is logical to be offended by it but I have been offended more than once by online statements about Koreans and our culture. It happens. Like he said, we are only human.
    I guess being of the "white privilege" American persuasion I cannot walk in your shoes. Although the "fat, lazy, gun-loving 'murican" meme is seen a lot on the Web and in chat I don't let it bother me, although I do fall into one of those stereotypes. O.o

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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,164
    bartoni33 said:
    Bloodaxes said:
    bartoni33 said:
    As he said, don't get offended. Easy peasy. The Victim Generation thing really needs to stop.
    It's easy to say don't get offended but quite hard to do on a regular bases.

    Sometimes you will have enough about people mocking your race/whatever and you will act. We are human not machines.
    No one should ever get "offended' by someone saying something on the Internet or in any game. Why would you care what some fucktard says? Anonymity works both ways. They don't know you so any opinion of you does not matter because it is uninformed.

    If someone was mocking you in real life to your physical face then that obviously would be a different story because you could infer that the attack is personal and therefor deserves an emotional response. What some random asshole says in chat does not deserve ANY response, especially since they are being an asshole just to get a rise from someone.
    Noone 'should' get offended but as @Bloodaxes ; said we are only human. If we spend the majority of our days online for work and for play it sometimes does reach a boiling point. Not saying that it is logical to be offended by it but I have been offended more than once by online statements about Koreans and our culture. It happens. Like he said, we are only human.
    I am Asian myself but I think you tend to react a bit too much to people talking about stuff happening in games and if the game is Korean you get defensive even when it's true. 

  • XarkoXarko Member EpicPosts: 1,180
    edited March 2016
    AnnaTS said:
    Xarko said:
    AnnaTS said:
    Xarko said:
    AnnaTS said:
    Xarko said:
    I see and read just as much prejudice on these forums as I do in any given game I play East or West.
    The mods do a good job on here yet you still see a lot of Asian references that are derogatory in nature. As a Korean American I have been offended more than once here,other forums and in many games. East and West. I just ignore it and move on. (At least try to) 
    I have yet to understand how Can someone be offended by random tHIngs on the interNet, especially by some silly Generalizations. I personalLy have never had problems with nOt doing something so not getting offended just seems Like the easiest thing.

    I do agree mods on this site do a reasonably good job though.
    White privilige now try being a black person joining a game with loads of racist comments in chat.

    you are into roleplaying so shouldn't be hard to do.

    Some people don't understand white privilige but i get it and it's just about putting the shoe on the other foot.
    You are being racist right now and it doesnt bother me a single bit.
    sorry you will have to explain to me how i don't see it which part of what i said offended your race or should i say the same race we are i see you are white like me ?
    Im beggning to see where the problem is.
    Of course you are even when it's explained.
    No, this problem unfortunately cannot be explained by any rational means. It just happens from time to time.
  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    kitarad said:
    I am Asian myself but I think you tend to react a bit too much to people talking about stuff happening in games and if the game is Korean you get defensive even when it's true. 
    Well you have to admit some posters here like to make flaming posts. If everyone commented in a rational method, this forum would be so much better for discussions but alas we get people fighting for months if star citizen is coming out or not, when will a "good" mmo come out because apparently all of them suck and whatever the current popular subject to debate on. 

  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    I'll say this, unless you're able to find people and physically discipline them for being racist online, there's no point getting worked up about it and bringing it up here. You'll be met with apathy and be told to grow thick skin by guys who are allergic to everything including sunlight.

    I'm not telling you to you not to get upset, but punishing cowards is a difficult business, they will hide behind every single possible shield. Unless you have the necessary tools to take action, take a deep breath and move forward.
    "As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*" 

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • AnnaTSAnnaTS Member UncommonPosts: 600
    I noticed i used the word black if you was calling me racist because of that it's easier to explain racism using terms white and black call me lazy but i am definitely not racist.
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,164
    Bloodaxes said:
    kitarad said:
    I am Asian myself but I think you tend to react a bit too much to people talking about stuff happening in games and if the game is Korean you get defensive even when it's true. 
    Well you have to admit some posters here like to make flaming posts. If everyone commented in a rational method, this forum would be so much better for discussions but alas we get people fighting for months if star citizen is coming out or not, when will a "good" mmo come out because apparently all of them suck and whatever the current popular subject to debate on. 
    I am a huge fan of manga,manwha and anime and love Korean ,Taiwanese,Chinese and Japanese dramas and I too often defend the games against the rubbish people post here about games coming from Japan and Korea. I think there is a lot of prejudice but just flying of into defensive mode about everything people post here can be a problem  in itself.

  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    I don't see how this is a PVP issue. It's present in any place where a person doesn't have to be immediately held accountable for their actions.
    "As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*" 

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • UhwopUhwop Member UncommonPosts: 1,791
    We have it on the NA servers as well, not as bad as the OP described, but it's there. 

    War them.  Farm them until they disband.  You're adding positively, in several ways, to the game by doing so. 
  • DelvieDelvie Member UncommonPosts: 25
    Hopefully moderation increases now that Daum is hiring new people (per Q&A with Pvt Wiggles today).  This really isn't that unusual in new games from what I've experienced - honestly stick to local chat, guild chat, or no chat until things calm down.   Me I do a lot of blocking - and then wonder at how much odder the conversation gets...LOL
  • GitmixGitmix Member UncommonPosts: 605
    edited March 2016
    a major irritator for me in this game is a certain part of the community...

    espescially the general International chat is evil...
    they allways bring up racisme Nazi, black people, and islam related...
    there is a guild that requires their members to wear a white pointy hat...
    there is a guild called Nessert Diggers, which constantly brings up hate related topics
    there is a guild named nsdap, and one called AdolfSS
    and offcourse the guild ISIS..

    i am not used to this from other MMos i play, atleast not in this magnitude, why is this sombad in this game?
    And wtf are the GMs doing? Oh right today's MMOs don't bother with those anymore...
    This is what you get.
    So taking out trading got rid of RMT. But how to take out hate speech without spending a dime on GMs?
    Remove the chat window !! There you go. Which studio will have the audacity to go that extra mile I wonder?...
  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    For me personally you shouldn't judge the community of a game that just launched because the first couple of weeks will be filled with people that are still not sure they like the game or not. This will inadvertently bring a lot of debates in chats and in the long run insults and weird/stupid topics.

    Anyone who played Aion at launch will surely remember certain people made their characters so ugly and out of place that is was pretty childish. Those people usually don't last unless their monstrous creation is ugly but also amazing. They tend to reroll or move to another game. The same happens in this game. With the game being "new", all these 7 day trials that can be gotten quite easily and a ton of people hating eastern games, you will surely find some people that will make an account just to troll.

    The guild I mentioned earlier (PronHub) won't probably last long. It's a matter of time until the devs notice or enough people report them. In archeage I remember a dick guild that pked same faction and helped the enemy faction for the lols created the biggest castle possible. In archeage you can put a cash shop painting with a custom image. Long story short, this castle was full of hentai and chibi porn.

    When you give options to people, some rotten apples go full on on it.

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  • SulaaSulaa Member UncommonPosts: 1,329
    edited March 2016
    Barrens Chat back in the day


    Besides Europe is currently in a serious crisis and there is huge rift between mainstream politics towards muslim immigration and integration and what lot of europeans think.  Not surprising it does show as vicious argument & trolling in an online video game.  It would be weird if it did not.
  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,430
    Haven't started playing yet.  Do they not have a block function?

    I self identify as a monkey.

  • MaggonMaggon Member UncommonPosts: 360
    edited March 2016
    I haven't seen any racist comments, I do see a lot of bashing agains those who does not speak english in the international channel though.
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