lots of ppl doing low lvl dungeons and trials , Low lvl roulette is the only thing some ppl do to level alts (me included) and more than happy to get a low lvl trial and it only takes what 5 min top as dps , 2 for healer and 0 for tank
I know what the OP is saying. I've said it since the expansion launched. At the very least they could of allowed the new classes to be available before you had to finish all the storylines to get to HW. I myself wouldn't of minded doing those 200+ quests if I could of done it as a Dark Knight (class I planned to main). Having to grind through all those quests, then having to restart a new class and grind even more before seeing the new content burned me out. By the time I actually started playing the HW content as a level 50 DK. I basically didn't want to anymore lol. I'll go back eventually to play through it though. FF14 is a great mmo overall.
Then again though, you only show a snippet of a pic and not the whole screenshot. How do we honestly know if you "photoshoped" it like i can do on photobucket and MS paint and such.
The longest I have waited on a queue on Cactuar server, as a DPS, Off time, in the past 2 years is 12:32 exact.
Queued for something dumb.... i clearly explained what i queued for each time was as a tank.
Level 52 - Lord of the Hive Thok ast Thok : Spent 8 hours in queue times before i finally just ended up finding an FC on the server who were kind enough to queue with me and i got it done
Level 53 - Sohm Al : Took me about 187 minutes to get this
level 55 - The Aery : Took me 152 minutes to get thi
Level 57 - The Vault : Currently in queue so far 20 minute
I don't appreciate your condescending attitude as i have stated many times i'm doing this stuff as part of the MAIN STORY FOR HW something that i can not avoid and have to do to progress my characters.
Sorry, i use a program called puush to take screenshots of selected areas of the screen which then automatically uploads it to the server for me... but yes, clearly looks screenshotted, what exact reason would i have to lie about this. I enjoy the game and i've stuck out the content regardless of the queue times.
here does this make you feel better about being wrong..
ALSO considering i'm not the only person experiening it... maybe it's not just me talking crap and it's an actual problem but i'll continue to post full screenshots for you as the queue progresses... i'll even run to different places for you o you can see different backgrounds if it would make you happy
Heres an update because a dps came in
inb4 snide unwitty remark about it being my server / datacenters fault, because you generally can't handle the fact that i'm not lying.
and we reach the basically 50 minute mark here.. the DPS left, i guess he got a better offer or you know.. bored please tell me again how i'm photoshopping and lying about my queue times
Took me less than 5 minutes to get in all of those. Less than 5 minutes. Second, i level the hell out of alts and like most said, we use the roulettes, low level and leveling
Literally, took me 5 minutes to get into each of those as I have ran the Vault 4 times today to get NIN to 60
Now, I and many others run them all the time.
Question, are you in the NA data center or EU or JP?
i don't care what datacenter i'm on... i'm on the best data center for my location for best latency but if it's that important to you here is my datacenter
and just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it's not a problem and doesn't affect others which is the point i'm trying to make but instead get insulted and called a liar who is photoshopping pictures for my own end.
i literally have 0 reason to lie about any of this. so i will continue to update my previous post as the queue goes on.
Edit - you know what the cute part is.. i actually edited my second post with the second screenshot and a remark about waiting for someone to bring up the data center
wow.... your reply to being wrong about me lying and photoshopping is to insult my intelligence
1 - yes i have all the language options checked.
2 - YES i have join a party in progress checked.
3 - this screenshot speaks more than my words can
yes i have cleared it i was actually unsure why it came back up and said i have to reattune and do it again.
3rd - i've been playing MMO's since back in text based MUDs and like shadowbane was probably my first graphical MMO and have basically owned everything AAA / indy that has come out since, including all the distasters to come along with them.
wow.... your reply to being wrong about me lying and photoshopping is to insult my intelligence
1 - yes i have all the language options checked.
2 - YES i have join a party in progress checked.
3 - this screenshot speaks more than my words can
yes i have cleared it i was actually unsure why it came back up and said i have to reattune and do it again.
3rd - i've been playing MMO's since back in text based MUDs and like shadowbane was probably my first graphical MMO and have basically owned everything AAA / indy that has come out since, including all the distasters to come along with them.
It sucks to have to do all that questing IF your only intent is on endgame raiding. But if your intent is only on endgame raiding then maybe RPG's even MMORPG's aren't the right thing for you. Its supposed to be about the adventure and either a linear story or your own story. The point of the game is never meant to be endgame raiding which was just a carrot to keep people going once they did the rest of the game.
FFXIV has a crapload of content which is an awesome thing and the story is very nice. Its replay factor is non existent however due to the job system and the huge quest line which is a drag once you already did it once. But if you haven't done it that one time I'd say wanting to skip it and the adventure is throwing away the biggest and best part of the game.
People forget what an mmorpg is supposed to be about. Its meant to be an adventure, a journey, a building process, and a way to make friends and even enemies. Its not about who has the coolest gear (while that factor can be fun) or about just doing raiding at the top. Its meant to be an epic adventure that one day you'd want to tell your fake rpg kids about.
It sucks to have to do all that questing IF your only intent is on endgame raiding. But if your intent is only on endgame raiding then maybe RPG's even MMORPG's aren't the right thing for you. Its supposed to be about the adventure and either a linear story or your own story. The point of the game is never meant to be endgame raiding which was just a carrot to keep people going once they did the rest of the game.
FFXIV has a crapload of content which is an awesome thing and the story is very nice. Its replay factor is non existent however due to the job system and the huge quest line which is a drag once you already did it once. But if you haven't done it that one time I'd say wanting to skip it and the adventure is throwing away the biggest and best part of the game.
People forget what an mmorpg is supposed to be about. Its meant to be an adventure, a journey, a building process, and a way to make friends and even enemies. Its not about who has the coolest gear (while that factor can be fun) or about just doing raiding at the top. Its meant to be an epic adventure that one day you'd want to tell your fake rpg kids about.
i love the story in the game, i've said that multiple times.. thats why i keep pushing through regardless of my queue times
Ok gonna explain it so every1 understand Player B : plays on Cactuar Player A plays on this Data center
as u can see Cactuar isnt on Elemental Data center so yeah player A experience in queues is different than Player B , maybe A is more populated , or has more low lvls or the time where this data center plays is where player B is not playing (i know im EU and played in NA data center and can suck playing when half the server is sleeping) ...btw why are u playing in Elemental ? .... is a JP data center ....
It sucks to have to do all that questing IF your only intent is on endgame raiding. But if your intent is only on endgame raiding then maybe RPG's even MMORPG's aren't the right thing for you. Its supposed to be about the adventure and either a linear story or your own story. The point of the game is never meant to be endgame raiding which was just a carrot to keep people going once they did the rest of the game.
FFXIV has a crapload of content which is an awesome thing and the story is very nice. Its replay factor is non existent however due to the job system and the huge quest line which is a drag once you already did it once. But if you haven't done it that one time I'd say wanting to skip it and the adventure is throwing away the biggest and best part of the game.
People forget what an mmorpg is supposed to be about. Its meant to be an adventure, a journey, a building process, and a way to make friends and even enemies. Its not about who has the coolest gear (while that factor can be fun) or about just doing raiding at the top. Its meant to be an epic adventure that one day you'd want to tell your fake rpg kids about.
i love the story in the game, i've said that multiple times.. thats why i keep pushing through regardless of my queue times
I don't get it, if EVERYBODY is experiencing this, then why don't you use PARTY FINDER. We have 3 up on Cactuar for Main Story dungeon clears all the time.
All of this sounds like you not wanting to make an effort. You have no FC, LS's, or the Novice Network?
So, yes, you ARE doing everything wrong and not trying to get it done by the other methods CLEARLY in game.
Again, what are you queueing for, you wont or have not told us yet.
ihave literally stated what i'm queuing for so many times
mentions what i'm queuing for
also mentions what i'm queuing for
and stop with this rekt shit... i am not rekt and you're acting like a child to be honest.
I've posted so much proof of my queue times and experiences and everytime you called it bull i posted more proof to back myself up, i'm not mad at all.. i honestly don't care what your experience is or if you think you rekt me, i'm posting my experience and plenty of people have had the same experience
you seem mad because people are unhappy with a certain aspect of the game and feel the need to continue posting your experiences, when it's even been stated by multiple people that experiences will vary from data center to data center...
at this point you're just regurgitating the same crap we have all heard you say which is you get insta queues and you're the best ffxiv player ever. hint - no one cares, you don't like my experience with the game ignore it... it doesn't make it any less true.
The fact that you keep bringing up that i haven't even said what i'm queuing for when i have multiple times makes you even less credible because you don't even take the time to read what i'm posting
you just continually make posts saying "rekt" and think you're amazing.
Edit - inb4 another post of crap with the word rekt plastered in it 25 times.
Edit 2 - does this mean you're "rekt" because i posted multiple times what i'm queuing for and it also said in my quest log that i was on the quest for "the vault" dungeon and you still keep posting about what i'm queuing for?
RIGHT lol. Dude wants help though and yet, just waits in a queue in stead of asking FC mates, he said he joind the biggest and best for the server, and linkshells or even have a mentor bring them into the Novice Network. There are many different ways to do it but, all they want to do is sit in a queue and make ZERO effort to do shit at all excetp come here and whine about the queues.
I think the main problem here is that most people agree that the back and forth questing sucks. Being forced to do specific low level dungeons to proceed also sucks. The queues just highlight how horrible they are at game design in general. Mixing horrible queues and being able to access expansion content with forced group dungeon low level content is stupid. Really, stupid. Like Forrest Gump stupid.
Everyone wants a game that will be playable for years, yet no one wants it to be questing, grinding or really anything but w/e their shallow minds want to play at that singular moment in time.
Get over yourself. You cant have a long lasting game with massive amounts of content.... and the bitch about it. You want some training for your little poopsy self? go play FFXI and start bitching about time it takes to get anywhere.
Umadbro? Mad & salty apparently. No one is complaining about the content you illiterate, we are complaining about gating an entire expansion. You're a joke.
+1. some ppl wants more content, seems some ppl do not wants
You are both being intellectually dishonest to make yourselves sound clever. Either that or you lack any logic at all. There is a HUGE difference between content and run here, fetch this, kill 10 of that quest grind. If you don't get that then maybe you should stop playing MMOs and go play some mind building games.
Uh...The only one being dishonest is you, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not content. I can honestly say it's not my thing either but I don't doubt one second that there are many that enjoy this type of content. If you don't get that YOU should stop playing MMOs. Get over yourself.
Wait just a minute there buddy, get over myself? When someone complains they cannot get into an expansion because there is a fetch quest wall in their way.....and the counter is "so you are saying content is bad now?" , that is bs. I am defending the op who is being accused of being anti-content, you are defending smartasses. I am very content with myself on this.
Ok gonna explain it so every1 understand Player B : plays on Cactuar Player A plays on this Data center
as u can see Cactuar isnt on Elemental Data center so yeah player A experience in queues is different than Player B , maybe A is more populated , or has more low lvls or the time where this data center plays is where player B is not playing (i know im EU and played in NA data center and can suck playing when half the server is sleeping)
RIGHT lol. Dude wants help though and yet, just waits in a queue in stead of asking FC mates, he said he joind the biggest and best for the server, and linkshells or even have a mentor bring them into the Novice Network. There are many different ways to do it but, all they want to do is sit in a queue and make ZERO effort to do shit at all excetp come here and whine about the queues.
no please dude change your argument and points again and tell me how i didn't explain what i'm queuing for because you apparently lack the basic ability of reading
i actually said i got my FC to help me with Thok ast Thok after spending 8 hours for the duty finder which never popped.
i'm also speaking about 1 specific aspect of the game, not everyone might have access to an FC or be new and not know how to go about getting one, i'm specfically posting my experiences within the duty finder in regards to gated content.
so please, keep making this about everything else and arguing points which are complete irrelevant to what i'm talking about and making wild claims about my abilities and information i'm giving... when you're lacking the basic skills to bother reading all the information i provided which is all the questions you're asking
oh i see u are from AUS , tonberry is the unofficial aus server still...plenty of JP Around im sure
yeah i am from Aus, and Tonberry is still the unofficial aus server I am also part of a fairly decent FC now after waiting so long for Thok ast Thok i gave up and went to the loadstone and found a guild that suited my needs and they were nice enough to take me on and help me complete it....
all of this is besides the point as i've been merely trying to point out my experiences in a specific circumstance which new players who don't have access to an FC etc... might experience also.
I haven't lied about my experiences, i didn't photoshop any screenshots etc... i just wanted to show that some peoples concerns about the content gated behind groups which some people might only think to use the duty finder because thats what the quest tell's them to do.. might be tarnished due to some people experiencing massive queue times.
Okay, then why has your FC not helped you through everything? As a mentor in game and most the 200+ people in our FC are mentors, we help anybody on the server.
Again, you make no attempt to get stuff done.
It all comes down to you being lazy.
Oh edit real quick, Eaorzean Census stated that only 5% of all the data centers have characters with no FC's. How do people have no access to basic functions such as joining an FC. Dumbest fucking thing I heard all day.
wow one again you go an "rekt" yourself with your lack of reading comprehension.
i've also stated multiple times that i just joined an FC yesterday after not being able to get a group for thok ast thok for 8 hours... the fact that i tried to get a group for 8 hours is the exact opposite of "being lazy" being lazy i would have given up and quit the game, but instead i pushed through for 8 hours of queue times and in the end took another route and found an FC that seemed good to me.
you need to stop, because you're literally just talking crap at this point and everything you say is completely wrong and based off issues that i already stated that you failed to bother readin.
So, let me get this so i know that I have it right without even reading shit of yours.
Your mad because you on a shitty Eu server with barely any players because most stayed with JP and NA. The queue times as a tank for you are so hard. You got your FC to help with RAV, weird they wont help you do anything else, and you are waiting in the queue for either the Aery or Vault.
Now your here crying, "Why does content have to be gated by forced group dungeons, whaaaaaaaa".
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Yup. Hit the nail right on the head and I have yet to read even a quarter of your fake ass troll posts.
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Advice to help you,
1 - Join an NA/EU server, if not, you have no right to bitch as the option to move is there. If you have more than 35mbp internet, as we have EU players who stayed with the FC on an NA server, you lag is barely there.
2 - Join linkshells and leave your current FC for an actual good one. One that will help you down the content fast like everyone on the JP/NA servers do.
3 - Party Finder exists for a reason, use it.
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Honestly, if you are not willing to do any of those, then quit.
i honestly thought when i first saw this post... maybe he's finally figured out out
then i read like 2 lines and realised you still have no idea what you're talking about
1 - not on an EU server so.. thanks but no
2 - i have all the jobs at 50 + so no it's not just a tank queue problem.. again thanks but no
3 - i'm pointing out a problem many are experiencing and am not crying about it, if i was crying about it.. it would imply that i had given up, seeing as i'm still doing the story quests and almost upto level 58 content now i'd say i'm doing just fine regardless of long times.
4 - not even mad, again just relaying my experiences and explaining i don't think the main scenario should be gated behind a content wall which for some people experience high queue times
5 - i actually love how you fail to comprehend the information i give you
6 - you missed the nail and hit your thumb... you might wanna put some ice on that
7 - who said they won't help me with anything else.. i'm sure they would if they asked, but i'm testing my queue times for dungeons and trials i'm made to do between 50 and 60 in the main scenario quest
8 - again not crying, i just don't believe the content should be gated because it long queues could turn potential customers away.. full servers are happy servers.
now onto your advice
1 - No i will not move to a server where i will get 260ms+ i'll stay where i am, because i like having 120ms
2 - i'm in one of the top 10 FC's on the server now who are probably more than willing to help, but as i've stated multiple times which again you fail to keep reading i'm testing this for myself, because i want too
@mbrodie please don't argue with this idiot, he doesn't have a single brain cell. You're wasting your time.
@Greystone666 oh look other people are calling you out too now
and if you are the average ffxiv community member, the ffxiv community should be ashamed of itself
By other people you mean the same 4 since beta, yeah, we know, they like to not play and lurk to start shit they googled from non realiable sources and i like the fact that I show proof and facts but, only to those 4, i'll still be wrong, no matter what. That's what trolls do.
Duh.
yes, you showed me a queue based off your data center, you seem to be having a real hard time comprehending that different data centers will have different experiences... i don't know how that can be made any more clear to you.
and no changing data centers is not an option. due to the latency to EU / NA being fairly high, thankyou for your unwarranted input on how i should play my game.
a yep that is the problem you are on the jap servers did have that problem when i played on us server from eu because of the timezone , and yeh bit hard when you are from aus so find a decent data server no idea whats best timewise for you than.
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Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Nah......lets blame the game for your choices.
Level 52 - Lord of the Hive Thok ast Thok : Spent 8 hours in queue times before i finally just ended up finding an FC on the server who were kind enough to queue with me and i got it done
Level 53 - Sohm Al : Took me about 187 minutes to get this
level 55 - The Aery : Took me 152 minutes to get thi
Level 57 - The Vault : Currently in queue so far 20 minute
I don't appreciate your condescending attitude as i have stated many times i'm doing this stuff as part of the MAIN STORY FOR HW something that i can not avoid and have to do to progress my characters.
Sorry, i use a program called puush to take screenshots of selected areas of the screen which then automatically uploads it to the server for me... but yes, clearly looks screenshotted, what exact reason would i have to lie about this. I enjoy the game and i've stuck out the content regardless of the queue times.
here does this make you feel better about being wrong..
ALSO considering i'm not the only person experiening it... maybe it's not just me talking crap and it's an actual problem but i'll continue to post full screenshots for you as the queue progresses... i'll even run to different places for you o you can see different backgrounds if it would make you happy
Heres an update because a dps came in
inb4 snide unwitty remark about it being my server / datacenters fault, because you generally can't handle the fact that i'm not lying.
and we reach the basically 50 minute mark here.. the DPS left, i guess he got a better offer or you know.. bored
please tell me again how i'm photoshopping and lying about my queue times
but if it's that important to you here is my datacenter
and just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it's not a problem and doesn't affect others which is the point i'm trying to make but instead get insulted and called a liar who is photoshopping pictures for my own end.
i literally have 0 reason to lie about any of this. so i will continue to update my previous post as the queue goes on.
Edit - you know what the cute part is.. i actually edited my second post with the second screenshot and a remark about waiting for someone to bring up the data center
1 - yes i have all the language options checked.
2 - YES i have join a party in progress checked.
3 - this screenshot speaks more than my words can
yes i have cleared it i was actually unsure why it came back up and said i have to reattune and do it again.
3rd - i've been playing MMO's since back in text based MUDs and like shadowbane was probably my first graphical MMO and have basically owned everything AAA / indy that has come out since, including all the distasters to come along with them.
quality human being this @Greystone666
that just goes to shown u not even reading my posts... can't take you serious or respond to you any longer
then you claim my fullscreen shots are lies...
if i made a video u gonna tell me thats a photoshop too
give it up dude
FFXIV has a crapload of content which is an awesome thing and the story is very nice. Its replay factor is non existent however due to the job system and the huge quest line which is a drag once you already did it once. But if you haven't done it that one time I'd say wanting to skip it and the adventure is throwing away the biggest and best part of the game.
People forget what an mmorpg is supposed to be about. Its meant to be an adventure, a journey, a building process, and a way to make friends and even enemies. Its not about who has the coolest gear (while that factor can be fun) or about just doing raiding at the top. Its meant to be an epic adventure that one day you'd want to tell your fake rpg kids about.
and even if u select JP u arent going to play with JP since JP data centeres are on their own....
btw i play on Eu data center and 0 issues even as dps for low lvl content , or anything
Player B : plays on Cactuar
Player A plays on this Data center
as u can see Cactuar isnt on Elemental Data center
so yeah player A experience in queues is different than Player B , maybe A is more populated , or has more low lvls or the time where this data center plays is where player B is not playing (i know im EU and played in NA data center and can suck playing when half the server is sleeping)
mentions what i'm queuing for
also mentions what i'm queuing for
and stop with this rekt shit... i am not rekt and you're acting like a child to be honest.
I've posted so much proof of my queue times and experiences and everytime you called it bull i posted more proof to back myself up, i'm not mad at all.. i honestly don't care what your experience is or if you think you rekt me, i'm posting my experience and plenty of people have had the same experience
you seem mad because people are unhappy with a certain aspect of the game and feel the need to continue posting your experiences, when it's even been stated by multiple people that experiences will vary from data center to data center...
at this point you're just regurgitating the same crap we have all heard you say which is you get insta queues and you're the best ffxiv player ever. hint - no one cares, you don't like my experience with the game ignore it... it doesn't make it any less true.
The fact that you keep bringing up that i haven't even said what i'm queuing for when i have multiple times makes you even less credible because you don't even take the time to read what i'm posting
you just continually make posts saying "rekt" and think you're amazing.
Edit - inb4 another post of crap with the word rekt plastered in it 25 times.
Edit 2 - does this mean you're "rekt" because i posted multiple times what i'm queuing for and it also said in my quest log that i was on the quest for "the vault" dungeon and you still keep posting about what i'm queuing for?
i actually said i got my FC to help me with Thok ast Thok after spending 8 hours for the duty finder which never popped.
i'm also speaking about 1 specific aspect of the game, not everyone might have access to an FC or be new and not know how to go about getting one, i'm specfically posting my experiences within the duty finder in regards to gated content.
so please, keep making this about everything else and arguing points which are complete irrelevant to what i'm talking about and making wild claims about my abilities and information i'm giving... when you're lacking the basic skills to bother reading all the information i provided which is all the questions you're asking
all of this is besides the point as i've been merely trying to point out my experiences in a specific circumstance which new players who don't have access to an FC etc... might experience also.
I haven't lied about my experiences, i didn't photoshop any screenshots etc... i just wanted to show that some peoples concerns about the content gated behind groups which some people might only think to use the duty finder because thats what the quest tell's them to do.. might be tarnished due to some people experiencing massive queue times.
then i read like 2 lines and realised you still have no idea what you're talking about
1 - not on an EU server so.. thanks but no
2 - i have all the jobs at 50 + so no it's not just a tank queue problem.. again thanks but no
3 - i'm pointing out a problem many are experiencing and am not crying about it, if i was crying about it.. it would imply that i had given up, seeing as i'm still doing the story quests and almost upto level 58 content now i'd say i'm doing just fine regardless of long times.
4 - not even mad, again just relaying my experiences and explaining i don't think the main scenario should be gated behind a content wall which for some people experience high queue times
5 - i actually love how you fail to comprehend the information i give you
6 - you missed the nail and hit your thumb... you might wanna put some ice on that
7 - who said they won't help me with anything else.. i'm sure they would if they asked, but i'm testing my queue times for dungeons and trials i'm made to do between 50 and 60 in the main scenario quest
8 - again not crying, i just don't believe the content should be gated because it long queues could turn potential customers away.. full servers are happy servers.
now onto your advice
1 - No i will not move to a server where i will get 260ms+ i'll stay where i am, because i like having 120ms
2 - i'm in one of the top 10 FC's on the server now who are probably more than willing to help, but as i've stated multiple times which again you fail to keep reading i'm testing this for myself, because i want too
3 - why are you even still here.
yes, you showed me a queue based off your data center, you seem to be having a real hard time comprehending that different data centers will have different experiences... i don't know how that can be made any more clear to you.
and no changing data centers is not an option. due to the latency to EU / NA being fairly high, thankyou for your unwarranted input on how i should play my game.