Crikey ! How much can a game cost that you would even factor it in unless you are truly managing your finances in that detail. Your sole consideration should be value and whether the game is worth whatever they are asking.
Anyone on a fixed income will be more prone to micromanaging their finances. Some people are actually miserly enough that they will manage their money tightly by choice rather than necessity. A typical $15 / month game subscription is a $180 / year commitment, or $119 for something deeply discounted like an annual subscription. Two or three financial obligations like that, and you're talking real money.
I'm pretty good at budgeting my money. Which does not seem to be the norm as some people I know just spend it when they get it and let tomorrow take care of itself.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
If anything the big response in this thread demonstrates that the majority of the market is savvy and smart where the price greatly impacts their decision. This is why sometimes when something great costs less than it should might gain more revenue just for the fact that many will consider that as a "great deal" and the free marketing from friend referrals and what not will further boost its revenue.
I used to do "dumb" money decisions the younger I was, but that is not the case anymore since the average gamer today is no longer in his preteen years.
Crikey ! How much can a game cost that you would even factor it in unless you are truly managing your finances in that detail. Your sole consideration should be value and whether the game is worth whatever they are asking.
Anyone on a fixed income will be more prone to micromanaging their finances. Some people are actually miserly enough that they will manage their money tightly by choice rather than necessity. A typical $15 / month game subscription is a $180 / year commitment, or $119 for something deeply discounted like an annual subscription. Two or three financial obligations like that, and you're talking real money.
Well, I do pay for 6 annual subs which does provide the savings you outlined, but I didn't really do it to consciously save money, was more of a nice secondary benefit.
This way I'm paying about $63 per month but if I was paying full cost I'd still spend the same amount, but cut back to 4 accounts so I could retain flexibility of cancelling at any time.
All of this is a bit less than the monthly average for my gaming laptop which if spread across it's 3 year lifespan works out to about to $70 a month
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The poll is too simple to really capture anything meaningful.
How many players who voted "no" would purchase a $200,000 videogame? None. While the price for gaming is rather inelastic, price still matters.
the thing is if you ask someone on the street 'does the price of a pack of gum factor into your choice' I very seriously doubt they will pause for a second and think 'does the person asking it mean $200,000?' hmmm
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
the thing is if you ask someone on the street 'does the price of a pack of gum factor into your choice' I very seriously doubt they will pause for a second and think 'does the person asking it mean $200,000?' hmmm
So then you agree with me that the way the question is asked will result in indistinct (and therefore meaningless) poll results.
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
The thing is though...mention one game here that's recently new that I'll must pay $32 CAD for the next 5 months to access it? WOW: Legion is without doubt the most expensive game on the market right now.
WOW is also outdated, and after WoD expansion many have found other ways to entertain themselves, so also the addiction is not what it was. I think it was time Blizzard to do something to cut the cost and stay competitive with their outdated product, but they choose not to.
If by early September I can find two product that not only cost anything, but are completely free to me than this will be Blizzard loss when it comes to me. I have Path of Exile which will release a new league on September the 4th, I have Counter Strike 1.6 and another private server MMO that is also about to release some expansion at end of this month. Then I have other game products that might get finally released or receive content updates as well as other entertaining things I'm doing outside gaming like tv shows and movies.
I've bought every single expansion on release since I bought WOW on launch and I have no doubt that WOW: Legion will worth the $ far more than WoD did, but like I said times have changed and then I have to also think, will I be playing WOW through 2017 or will I be playing some of the many amazing MMO's that are coming like Star Citizen, Lost Ark, Lineage 3 and so on.
The thing is though...mention one game here that's recently new that I'll must pay $32 CAD for the next 5 months to access it? WOW: Legion is without doubt the most expensive game on the market right now.
WOW is also outdated, and after WoD expansion many have found other ways to entertain themselves, so also the addiction is not what it was. I think it was time Blizzard to do something to cut the cost and stay competitive with their outdated product, but they choose not to.
If by early September I can find two product that not only cost anything, but are completely free to me than this will be Blizzard loss when it comes to me. I have Path of Exile which will release a new league on September the 4th, I have Counter Strike 1.6 and another private server MMO that is also about to release some expansion at end of this month. Then I have other game products that might get finally released or receive content updates as well as other entertaining things I'm doing outside gaming like tv shows and movies.
I've bought every single expansion on release since I bought WOW on launch and I have no doubt that WOW: Legion will worth the $ far more than WoD did, but like I said times have changed and then I have to also think, will I be playing WOW through 2017 or will I be playing some of the many amazing MMO's that are coming like Star Citizen, Lost Ark, Lineage 3 and so on.
So, you've bought every expansion since the launch of Wow. Yet, every month you post how you haven't spent a single dime on an MMO in the last 5 years. One of those statements has to be lie but which one?
Also, if your worried about the price of a game then you probably shouldn't be gaming in the first place. Generally speaking video games are cheap.
Ok, the reviews are coming in on Suicide Squad and it doesn't look good. So, saying this is a bad movie will it affect paying $15.00 to see in the theater? Yes for me. It isn't about the $15.00 as much as it is a bad movie.
Now if a bunch of my friends see it and come back with great (not just ok or good) reviews, I would be more inclined to change my mind. If I don't see it, I will likely get to see it in a few months when it comes out in other forms or a friend gets a screener that I can borrow.
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what
it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience
because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in
the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you
playing an MMORPG?"
The thing is though...mention one game here that's recently new that I'll must pay $32 CAD for the next 5 months to access it? WOW: Legion is without doubt the most expensive game on the market right now.
WOW is also outdated, and after WoD expansion many have found other ways to entertain themselves, so also the addiction is not what it was. I think it was time Blizzard to do something to cut the cost and stay competitive with their outdated product, but they choose not to.
If by early September I can find two product that not only cost anything, but are completely free to me than this will be Blizzard loss when it comes to me. I have Path of Exile which will release a new league on September the 4th, I have Counter Strike 1.6 and another private server MMO that is also about to release some expansion at end of this month. Then I have other game products that might get finally released or receive content updates as well as other entertaining things I'm doing outside gaming like tv shows and movies.
I've bought every single expansion on release since I bought WOW on launch and I have no doubt that WOW: Legion will worth the $ far more than WoD did, but like I said times have changed and then I have to also think, will I be playing WOW through 2017 or will I be playing some of the many amazing MMO's that are coming like Star Citizen, Lost Ark, Lineage 3 and so on.
So, you've bought every expansion since the launch of Wow. Yet, every month you post how you haven't spent a single dime on an MMO in the last 5 years. One of those statements has to be lie but which one?
Also, if your worried about the price of a game then you probably shouldn't be gaming in the first place. Generally speaking video games are cheap.
How dare you question the op?!?! You shall believe all of his words as he is the only intelligent being amongst us all!
BLASPHEMY! KILL THE HERETIC!!!
When you don't want the truth, you will make up your own truth.
So, you've bought every expansion since the launch of Wow. Yet, every month you post how you haven't spent a single dime on an MMO in the last 5 years. One of those statements has to be lie but which one?Also, if your worried about the price of a game then you probably shouldn't be gaming in the first place. Generally speaking video games are cheap.
The only thing is lie is your words that coming out of you @fodell54, in fact you were barred not too long ago for violating the TOS around here. Go google my name out there and good luck finding one thread where it states I haven't spent $ on a game in the last 5½ years. All you'll find is me saying I haven't spent $ on a NEW game. See how much difference one word can make, something you clearly cannot seem to grasp so your followed logic is not too surprising.
This is why it's essential producers to be more flexible as times change, and the fact Blizzard has done little over the last 12 years with the cost of their product, especially after it released WOW:WoD, one of the worst expansions ever....I think companies should be more open to increase and decrease their product costs more often, based on its performance.
I know for a fact if Blizzard did a "good gesture" and at least waived the expansion fee for Legion based on how WoD performed a lot more would be inclined to get back into WOW.
WTF is wrong with this .. They cant give away there Exp , they have investors to answer to , And why would they, ATVI is at all time high this past month @ 42.79 .... Why the fug would they give away an exp , expecially with soo many preorders already in the bank ... You really need to bring your threads to reality .. WOuld you give away millions in revenue if you had investors to answer to .. . Of course any sane persons answer is NO ...
ATVI is not a desperate company, Thye are a forward thinking corp that has made one great move after another for last decade .. .. They are doing great ... And as an investor in them for 10 years , im pretty happy with the way they have handled there business..
The thing is though...mention one game here that's recently new that I'll must pay $32 CAD for the next 5 months to access it? WOW: Legion is without doubt the most expensive game on the market right now.
WOW is also outdated, and after WoD expansion many have found other ways to entertain themselves, so also the addiction is not what it was. I think it was time Blizzard to do something to cut the cost and stay competitive with their outdated product, but they choose not to.
If by early September I can find two product that not only cost anything, but are completely free to me than this will be Blizzard loss when it comes to me. I have Path of Exile which will release a new league on September the 4th, I have Counter Strike 1.6 and another private server MMO that is also about to release some expansion at end of this month. Then I have other game products that might get finally released or receive content updates as well as other entertaining things I'm doing outside gaming like tv shows and movies.
I've bought every single expansion on release since I bought WOW on launch and I have no doubt that WOW: Legion will worth the $ far more than WoD did, but like I said times have changed and then I have to also think, will I be playing WOW through 2017 or will I be playing some of the many amazing MMO's that are coming like Star Citizen, Lost Ark, Lineage 3 and so on.
So, you've bought every expansion since the launch of Wow. Yet, every month you post how you haven't spent a single dime on an MMO in the last 5 years. One of those statements has to be lie but which one?
Also, if your worried about the price of a game then you probably shouldn't be gaming in the first place. Generally speaking video games are cheap.
How dare you question the op?!?! You shall believe all of his words as he is the only intelligent being amongst us all!
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what
it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience
because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in
the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you
playing an MMORPG?"
Sure it does -- there have been bunches of games where I passed at $40 where I would have given it a try at $14. Then there are other games that have surprised me by being $5 which I wouldn't have given a second look, but because they were only $5 I figured, why not?
I guess i can sort of say yes because if over priced then it is a definite no,but it all depends on value not solely on price. example a game could sell for the highest price ever,a 300 dollar box sale,i would play it if it was good value.
Flip side,a game could cost $1 and i might not play it.Example i wouldn't play Wow or Crowfall or Eve or GW2 or 90% of the other generic junk i see out there not even for free,not even if they paid me to play them,so there ya go,price does not mean everything,value does mean everything.
If my only choice to game was a handful of games i don't like,i would just quit gaming,it is as simple as that.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I voted yes, but honestly it depends on the game and my interest in it. I jumped on the GW2 bandwagon and was disappointed that it wasn't like GW1. TESO came out and I avoided it and just bought it on sale even though I still rarely play both games. As for Legion, its almost guaranteed it will go on sale within 6 months after release since the previous 2 WoW expansions have done so. If you haven't play wow this long without buying an expansion upon release, it wont make much difference. I bought WoD because the marketting for it was pretty good and the story had me engage from the start (the first few play throughs at least). I pre-ordered legion, and honestly I'm not sure atm so I might cancel, still am not sure since I honestly find the legion boring even though Gul'dan is interesting enough. I waited on MoP because it seemed boring. It just depends on what grabs you. Some companies are fairly predictable on their methods though, so if you learn those and can control your connect to their products it becomes easier to tell which things are worth buying and which are worth waiting on.
It never used to, until GW2's HoT expansion. I saw the amount of content being released with it, and decided it wasn't worth $49.99. I'm starting to see the same thing in Legion. It looks quite shallow compared to previous expansions. It's not like i can't afford it, but i won't buy a half-assed expansion anymore, out of principle.
Nope, I will happily pay 10,000 in order to play Dig-Dug.
Dig Dug is a classic and awesome game!!!!! 10k is a bargain to play it.
Yup, now I just need to figure out 10,000 of what it is that I would be willing to pay.
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Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what
it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience
because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in
the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you
playing an MMORPG?"
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"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
I used to do "dumb" money decisions the younger I was, but that is not the case anymore since the average gamer today is no longer in his preteen years.
This way I'm paying about $63 per month but if I was paying full cost I'd still spend the same amount, but cut back to 4 accounts so I could retain flexibility of cancelling at any time.
All of this is a bit less than the monthly average for my gaming laptop which if spread across it's 3 year lifespan works out to about to $70 a month
Like I said, small money in the scheme of things
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How many players who voted "no" would purchase a $200,000 videogame? None. While the price for gaming is rather inelastic, price still matters.
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"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
WOW is also outdated, and after WoD expansion many have found other ways to entertain themselves, so also the addiction is not what it was. I think it was time Blizzard to do something to cut the cost and stay competitive with their outdated product, but they choose not to.
If by early September I can find two product that not only cost anything, but are completely free to me than this will be Blizzard loss when it comes to me. I have Path of Exile which will release a new league on September the 4th, I have Counter Strike 1.6 and another private server MMO that is also about to release some expansion at end of this month. Then I have other game products that might get finally released or receive content updates as well as other entertaining things I'm doing outside gaming like tv shows and movies.
I've bought every single expansion on release since I bought WOW on launch and I have no doubt that WOW: Legion will worth the $ far more than WoD did, but like I said times have changed and then I have to also think, will I be playing WOW through 2017 or will I be playing some of the many amazing MMO's that are coming like Star Citizen, Lost Ark, Lineage 3 and so on.
When you don't want the truth, you will make up your own truth.
Also, if your worried about the price of a game then you probably shouldn't be gaming in the first place. Generally speaking video games are cheap.
Now if a bunch of my friends see it and come back with great (not just ok or good) reviews, I would be more inclined to change my mind. If I don't see it, I will likely get to see it in a few months when it comes out in other forms or a friend gets a screener that I can borrow.
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https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
BLASPHEMY! KILL THE HERETIC!!!
When you don't want the truth, you will make up your own truth.
ATVI is not a desperate company, Thye are a forward thinking corp that has made one great move after another for last decade .. .. They are doing great ... And as an investor in them for 10 years , im pretty happy with the way they have handled there business..
I think you are going to fit in here!
Epic Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAigCvelkhQ&list=PLo9FRw1AkDuQLEz7Gvvaz3ideB2NpFtT1
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
I guess i can sort of say yes because if over priced then it is a definite no,but it all depends on value not solely on price.
example a game could sell for the highest price ever,a 300 dollar box sale,i would play it if it was good value.
Flip side,a game could cost $1 and i might not play it.Example i wouldn't play Wow or Crowfall or Eve or GW2 or 90% of the other generic junk i see out there not even for free,not even if they paid me to play them,so there ya go,price does not mean everything,value does mean everything.
If my only choice to game was a handful of games i don't like,i would just quit gaming,it is as simple as that.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I self identify as a monkey.
How about for free? Here:
https://archive.org/details/msdos_Dig_Dug_1983
Epic Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAigCvelkhQ&list=PLo9FRw1AkDuQLEz7Gvvaz3ideB2NpFtT1
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/444146/if-great-mmos-are-lacking
N.B. From Quiz's post, it's all going downhill. :awesome:
When you don't want the truth, you will make up your own truth.