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Early Access/Kickstarter funded games. Good or bad?
How do you feel about the whole early access/kickstarter craze that happened a couple of years ago?
Has it benefited gamers, or has it just taken a lot of our money for empty promises?
Has it benefited gamers, or has it just taken a lot of our money for empty promises?
When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
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- Darkest dungeon is my favorite game of 2016 so far.
- Pillars of eternity was my favorite game of 2015.
- I loved undertale
- Dreamfall the longest journey was a game that was stuck in the middle of nothing, even though it took a long time until it finished we did get an ending.
- Kentucky Route Zero is a really interesting game even though its taking forever for them to finish the game
- I liked divinity: original sin
- I liked the shadowrun games, without shadorun returns i doubt we would have had shadowrun: dragonfall that was the best in the series.
- I enjoyed wasteland 2.
- Jotun was alright.
- Banner saga was enjoyable.
- Grim dawn wasn't my kind of game but without kickstarter it probably wouldn't have happened.
Sure there are plenty of games that turns out badly so that's why I use the following guidelines.Most of my Kickstarter picks have panned out well so far.
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As always, choose wisely.
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I have yet to play a MMORPG that has launched using the model exclusively, so have my doubts as to it's suitable for that genre, but seeing as we have little choice going forward... I hope that one will be delivered for me soon.
I am voting bad for similar reasons. Ultimately it is about the ends which haven't paid off for me.
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but am very happy KS exist just will use it much more rarely versus a early access or normal release. also KS really just need get off their money bags an enforce more fair rights to consumers to prevent scams or lazy incomplete designs of games or other products.
i think a very fair exchange is they don't see a dime in till the project is fully complete as promised not when a KS ends, that way when it "fails" they lose out too an can join us when things go south an people say sucks to be you i never back anything.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
you think it's bad bc games end up half finished? that has NOTHING to do with kickstarter. there were enough games unfinished before kickstarter, you might have missed em, but those were no small titles.
biggest examples are surely all points bulletin and warhammer online, both released WAY too early, bc of publishers, money, and the system they were made in.
both games had a really nice potential, which got raped really hard by the publishers decision to have it released when they said and not the devs.
it's surely a good thing people can now at least TRY to make games without EA
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You invest in an idea. You pay for a product.
The point here is that Kickstarter is specifically designed to get people to pay for ideas. It's not an investment. Your money will reward you a copy of the product or some other perks, but those are shit rewards if it turns the designer into a millionaire. They got free money to make themselves rich, and you get a box copy of the game. Gee. Thanks.
Nope. No way. Give me some stock to buy in your company or use an equity crowdfunding site like Fig and then I'll invest in your dreams. The best part is that when I'm invested in your dreams, they become my dreams too and I won't go around shit-mouthing your game when it misses deadlines like Star Citizen. In fact, I'll talk about it everywhere and defend it until my dollars come rolling back to me.
Now a game company can be successful by having a good Kickstarter or Early Access launch, then abandoning the project in favor of next project they can crowdfund or launch into Early Access.
There have been some really good Kickstarter or Early Access games, but at the same time I feel there are too many Kickstarters and Early Accesses that are run just so that you'll get funding to look for your next source of funding. Creating a good game has become secondary over being skilled in looking for funding to your game.
There are also other games that met or exceeded their mark and seem to be in "extended development". Who knows if they'll ever be released or if they were just scams to begin with.
oh yeah buddy preach it!
I mean the vast uptick in half-finished games in the last 5 years is clearly not because these so called "indie" developers are doing exactly what you vilify big name publishers over. . .
. . .oh wait it is. . .
Difference is i think thats a bad thing, not a good thing.
A project that is crowdfunded have more pressure to bend their vision to a few loud backers, which can be bad for a game. It is a two-edged sword to "listen" to your community, and for an unexperienced developer it is easy to loose focus and direction (vision).
For a mmorpg which is a monumental project, crowdfunding can be a great way to get a vertical slice running that can attract investors, and also show investors that there is concrete interest in buying the finished product. A few make it with only crownfunding, but usually investors are not a bad thing, it shows the product has potential and there is confidence in the team to deliver. Also that investors money can be what takes the project from small to medium size content wise and raise the overall quality, both very very important for a mmorpg to survive.
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