Dragging bound humans (npc), enslave them, break their will?! Become the greatest slave master!

Octagon7711

Saying that what you do in game has zero affect in real life goes against string theory.

xyzercrime

Please keep away the PC from gaming, we've had enough of it in real fuckin' life!

d_20

Nice name calling. Well done. Just because you are a tough guy online doesn't mean you're not a neckbearded basement-dwelling "pansy" either fulfilling your little fantasies online because you don't have the power to do it in RL.

I don't think it's morally wrong. It's just sick and pathetic. Enjoy.

Eldurian

d_20 said:

Just because you are a tough guy online doesn't mean you're not a neckbearded basement-dwelling "pansy" either...

Says the dude with a flaming demon skull avatar.

Eldurian

Crush thine enemy.
See them driven before you.
Hear about their cultural difference and lend them a shoulder to cry on.

Ramajama

SavageHorizon said:

Ramajama said:

I fail to see the fun in enslaving anyone

Its a freaking survival MMO ffs not the real world, plus it goes with the lore of Hyboria. 

Should they include rape? 

Or even better, should they include rape of children in front of their parents and cut off their heads after? 

Distopia

Eldurian said:

Crush thine enemy.
See them driven before you.
Hear about their cultural difference and lend them a shoulder to cry on.

No safe spaces in Hyboria

Distopia

d_20 said:

I don't think it's morally wrong. It's just sick and pathetic. Enjoy.

Do you feel the same about Roman era games? Almost all strategy titles in that era have slavery of some sort. It's just a major part of that society, just as it's a part of the Hyborian world; which draws a lot of it's content from the real world in ancient times... 

Eldurian

Ramajama said:

SavageHorizon said:

Ramajama said:

I fail to see the fun in enslaving anyone

Its a freaking survival MMO ffs not the real world, plus it goes with the lore of Hyboria. 

Should they include rape? 

Or even better, should they include rape of children in front of their parents and cut off their heads after? 

So you are suggesting forced labor is of moral equivalency to the rape and murder of children? Because I would submit that while many of the things we commonly associate with slavery (sex slavery, the tearing apart of families etc.) is all pretty bad stuff, I actually do not see how forced labor is even on a par with the murder that is openly tolerated in most games.

I think while the term "slave" is a nice term to get people triggered that most people would opt to push someone else's plow over having their head chopped off or being fried by a lightning bolt.

Or having their children raped and murdered infront of them.

Yet I don't see the same level of outcry every time a game allows you to kill civilians. Why is that?

xyzercrime

Eldurian said:

d_20 said:

Just because you are a tough guy online doesn't mean you're not a neckbearded basement-dwelling "pansy" either...

Says the dude with a flaming demon skull avatar.

Ooohhh, buuuurrrnnn....  :awesome:

Bestinna

I only complain about games to myself usually but this one is just retarded. I hate games like chronicles of elyria where aging characters are supposed to make me back $100 because that will make for the perfect mmo. Presenting something like that to me even on the internet is just insulting. I don't think i'm insulted by this game but obviously only 12 year olds and old dudes who think they're trolls will play this and quit after a month or less. After having watched this video, the game has forced me to acknowledge more stupidity than CoE did. after the guy with the self portrait behind him at 00:39, i stopped watching. wait, is this an MMO? lol

Ramajama

Eldurian said:

Ramajama said:

SavageHorizon said:

Ramajama said:

I fail to see the fun in enslaving anyone

Its a freaking survival MMO ffs not the real world, plus it goes with the lore of Hyboria. 

Should they include rape? 

Or even better, should they include rape of children in front of their parents and cut off their heads after? 

So you are suggesting forced labor is of moral equivalency to the rape and murder of children? Because I would submit that while many of the things we commonly associate with slavery (sex slavery, the tearing apart of families etc.) is all pretty bad stuff, I actually do not see how forced labor is even on a par with the murder that is openly tolerated in most games.

I think while the term "slave" is a nice term to get people triggered that most people would opt to push someone else's plow over having their head chopped off or being fried by a lightning bolt.

Or having their children raped and murdered infront of them.

Yet I don't see the same level of outcry every time a game allows you to kill civilians. Why is that?

Not at all, I certainly don't equal that. I used that comparison in order to get the argument "Its in the Hyboria lore" out of discussion, since that was used to defend slavery in the video game. 

As to the fps civilian shooting - what can I say, that train is gone and its just part of the video game culture now. Its crap but its the fact 

Distopia

Bestinna said:

I only complain about games to myself usually but this one is just retarded. I hate games like chronicles of elyria where aging characters are supposed to make me back $100 because that will make for the perfect mmo. Presenting something like that to me even on the internet is just insulting. I don't think i'm insulted by this game but obviously only 12 year olds and old dudes who think they're trolls will play this and quit after a month or less. After having watched this video, the game has forced me to acknowledge more stupidity than CoE did. after the guy with the self portrait behind him at 00:39, i stopped watching. wait, is this an MMO? lol

What?!?! Wanna try saying that again?

Distopia

Ramajama said:

Eldurian said:

Ramajama said:

SavageHorizon said:

Ramajama said:

I fail to see the fun in enslaving anyone

Its a freaking survival MMO ffs not the real world, plus it goes with the lore of Hyboria. 

Should they include rape? 

Or even better, should they include rape of children in front of their parents and cut off their heads after? 

So you are suggesting forced labor is of moral equivalency to the rape and murder of children? Because I would submit that while many of the things we commonly associate with slavery (sex slavery, the tearing apart of families etc.) is all pretty bad stuff, I actually do not see how forced labor is even on a par with the murder that is openly tolerated in most games.

I think while the term "slave" is a nice term to get people triggered that most people would opt to push someone else's plow over having their head chopped off or being fried by a lightning bolt.

Or having their children raped and murdered infront of them.

Yet I don't see the same level of outcry every time a game allows you to kill civilians. Why is that?

Not at all, I certainly don't equal that. I used that comparison in order to get the argument "Its in the Hyboria lore" out of discussion, since that was used to defend slavery in the video game. 

As to the fps civilian shooting - what can I say, that train is gone and its just part of the video game culture now. Its crap but its the fact 

Hyborian lore is likely the only reason it's in the game in the manner it is...

Bestinna

Distopia said:
What?!?! Wanna try saying that again?

Not really, lol. Game will be bad. That is all.

Eldurian

Ramajama said:

Not at all, I certainly don't equal that. I used that comparison in order to get the argument "Its in the Hyboria lore" out of discussion, since that was used to defend slavery in the video game. 

As to the fps civilian shooting - what can I say, that train is gone and its just part of the video game culture now. Its crap but its the fact 

I like the subtle implication that's it's all the FPS crowd. It's not like you can kill civilians in:

Every Fable
Sim City
KOTOR
SWTOR
Freelancer
Darkfall
Mortal Online
Wurm
EVE
D&D
Pathfinder
Runescape
Age of Empires
Warcraft
Starcraft
Every Elder Scrolls Game

Should I keep listing? Yeah. It's all Grand Theft Auto and it's corrupting influence on the youth of today. (Never played any of those games BTW)

The fact is that if people couldn't differentiate between fantasy and reality things would be a lot worse than they are right now. You wouldn't see murder rates and violent crime rates falling like they actually are despite what the media and your grandmother might try to tell you.

But the sky is falling and people are sick minded disgusting freaks because they decide to spare some of their enemies lives and put them to work. Oh god! The moral fabric of our society is eroding! Things will never be the same!

Yes there is a reason the SJWs in this topic are getting made fun of. The same reason all SJWs are made fun of. Because they are computer chair civil rights activists who look for things to be offended by so they can feel like they are marching on Washington DC with Dr. King when in fact all they are doing is blowing minor issues into huge ones and being annoying and useless.

There are real battles to fight out there that will actually make a difference. Getting all up and arms because people are making pixilated avatars do manual labor for them isn't one.

I guarantee you not a single person who thought this game looks fun has been dissuaded by anyone in this topic trying to shame them because there is slaves in it.

Ramajama

MisterZebub said:

Ramajama said:

SavageHorizon said:

Ramajama said:

I fail to see the fun in enslaving anyone

Its a freaking survival MMO ffs not the real world, plus it goes with the lore of Hyboria. 

Should they include rape? 

Or even better, should they include rape of children in front of their parents and cut off their heads after? 

Well honestly that shit seems to have worked wonders for Game of Thrones. *shrugs in Spanish*

IMO, there is a difference between in-character video games and passive observer television. I don't argue to exclude slavery or rape from news, documentaries, movies but certainly exclude that filth from video games. 

Ramajama

Eldurian said:

Ramajama said:

Not at all, I certainly don't equal that. I used that comparison in order to get the argument "Its in the Hyboria lore" out of discussion, since that was used to defend slavery in the video game. 

As to the fps civilian shooting - what can I say, that train is gone and its just part of the video game culture now. Its crap but its the fact 

I like the subtle implication that's it's all the FPS crowd. It's not like you can kill civilians in:

Every Fable
Sim City
KOTOR
SWTOR
Freelancer
Darkfall
Mortal Online
Wurm
EVE
D&D
Pathfinder
Runescape
Age of Empires
Warcraft
Starcraft
Every Elder Scrolls Game

Should I keep listing? Yeah. It's all Grand Theft Auto and it's corrupting influence on the youth of today. (Never played any of those games BTW)

The fact is that if people couldn't differentiate between fantasy and reality things would be a lot worse than they are right now. You wouldn't see murder rates and violent crime rates falling like they actually are despite what the media and your grandmother might try to tell you.

But the sky is falling and people are sick minded disgusting freaks because they decide to spare some of their enemies lives and put them to work. Oh god! The moral fabric of our society is eroding! Things will never be the same!

Yes there is a reason the SJWs in this topic are getting made fun of. The same reason all SJWs are made fun of. Because they are computer chair civil rights activists who look for things to be offended by so they can feel like they are marching on Washington DC with Dr. King when in fact all they are doing is blowing minor issues into huge ones and being annoying and useless.

There are real battles to fight out there that will actually make a difference. Getting all up and arms because people are making pixilated avatars do manual labor for them isn't one.

I guarantee you not a single person who thought this game looks fun has been dissuaded by anyone in this topic trying to shame them because there is slaves in it.

I am not sure if saying that "I don't see fun in enslaving anyone" counts me in as this very funny group called SjW (i am European, i guess most of us are) but so be it. I certainly believe though that anyone who considers enslaving characters fun, should at least discuss that with the local psychologist. Just to be sure. 

Kyleran

Volgore said:

Kyleran said:

SavageHorizon said:

Wizardry said:

SavageHorizon said:

Ramajama said:

I fail to see the fun in enslaving anyone

Its a freaking survival MMO ffs not the real world, plus it goes with the lore of Hyboria. 

And your point is???

It still does not look like  a FUN idea to me either.We are playing games for FUN right?I guess as one would expect,we all have different ideas on FUN.
I'll tell you what is FUN,getting my steak sub and wings,since i am starving.

Lol, you didn't actually mention ffxi. 

Point is its fiction and a game, taking slaves in a fictional MMO should not effect the way you feel about such actions in real life. 

You have to be foolish to not see that. 

Well since I have no issue wantonly killing npcs enslaving should be no problem.

Unless of course "breaking their will" involves actual torture mechanics, then count me out.

Some things cross the line, even if it's only "pretend."

Yes, i guess there is nothing wrong with not wanting to do some things in a videogame, even if it is just that - a game.
Many people have something like that...like there are mods that remove spiders from games because some players get frightened of them.
I always hated having to kill dogs in games, like in FarCry.

Other folks again have fun doing the weirdest stuff in Second Life.

So not wanting to enslave somebody is totally alright with me, as sometimes we naturally apply some of our "moral standards" to video games as well.

Actually, since I do apply my personal behavior standards in MMORPGS (they are virtual worlds, not games) I always am doubtful of players who are asshats or sociopathic towards other players saying its only a game, and they aren't anything like that in real life.

YashaX

Sounds like a neat idea to me, the end result is you are building up your own private group of npc warriors and crafters for your base. Not sure what all the outrage is about, seems pretty tame to be honest. 

advokat666

Ramajama said:I certainly believe though that anyone who considers enslaving characters fun, should at least discuss that with the local psychologist. Just to be sure. 

I would strongly advise you to see your psychologist since you seem to be unable to differentiate between the real world and gaming.

Ramajama

advokat666 said:

Ramajama said:I certainly believe though that anyone who considers enslaving characters fun, should at least discuss that with the local psychologist. Just to be sure. 

I would strongly advise you to see your psychologist since you seem to be unable to differentiate between the real world and gaming.

Sure why not... hope to see you in the waiting room with a sign - "I want to play rape and slavery on my Personal Computer!!" 

Phry

advokat666 said:

Ramajama said:I certainly believe though that anyone who considers enslaving characters fun, should at least discuss that with the local psychologist. Just to be sure. 

I would strongly advise you to see your psychologist since you seem to be unable to differentiate between the real world and gaming.

The internetz are a dangerous place for sensitive types, i recommend counselling, and/or possibly getting laid a bit more often.

Kyleran

advokat666 said:

Ramajama said:I certainly believe though that anyone who considers enslaving characters fun, should at least discuss that with the local psychologist. Just to be sure. 

I would strongly advise you to see your psychologist since you seem to be unable to differentiate between the real world and gaming.

Judging by how some players act towards other players in games (or gaming forums) I'm not sure the difference is all that great.

hatefulpeace

Archlyte said:

I think it's time to calm down about the content of the game. People who feel slavery is wrong don't need to be taught that lesson by a game. People who think that slavery is ok have bigger problems than some harsh content in a video game. Much of the tension of the Conan setting comes from slavery. Without it you would not be able to capture the Hyborean setting as it was written in the stories. 

Archlyte said:

I think it's time to calm down about the content of the game. People who feel slavery is wrong don't need to be taught that lesson by a game. People who think that slavery is ok have bigger problems than some harsh content in a video game. Much of the tension of the Conan setting comes from slavery. Without it you would not be able to capture the Hyborean setting as it was written in the stories. 

Technically the majority of us have nothing against slavery. It is like a hash tag, people say they care but they really don't. If we were all against slavery, we wouldn't be buying things from China, which im sure every one in this post has some slave made china items they couldn't live with out. 

Im not sure why its such a big hype though, you could kidnap and basically enslave players in ARK.