Blizzard , Me and their .. Community

IceAge

Geezes! Is this for real ?

"Thanks to brave community organizers, Jeff Kaplan and Blizzard has finally done the right thing and removed a horribly sexist and offensive "victory pose" from a she-character known as "The Tracer.""

"California a day ago
Overwatch is a popular video game, and it affects our children more than we might realize. It should promote peace."

Peace? In a PvP game ?! Where 2 teams kills each-other ??? 

I am very mad at Blizzard right now for the way he treated me on HoTs and their stupid silence system. They refused to give me the logs about the reports messages which I received, yet .. they give the logs to others , which in the end it pissed me a lot because that's not treating their customers equally . 

I already canceled my WoW sub , asked refund for the last 30 days purchases I made in HoTs , and stopped playing Overwatch too . I was a pretty "hardcore" defender of Blizzard , but the last several days and their pathetic responds at my tickets has left me with a very bad taste in my mouth.

For reference : https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/heroes/topic/17614593824?page=1

PS :  I am bashing their customer support, not their games.

Wizardry

I have learned a lot about Blizzard and how corrupt and shotty they run their business but that sort of stuff is just nonsense.
remove guns from a gun game...lol,that is going over the top.
sexist pose??Oh guess someone missed the boat on regular family time tv viewing for oh the past 50 years?Guess i do need to make point that just because something has been a long stay in humanity does not make it right,but to have missed the boat on everything else in life and point solely at OW is laughable.

rojoArcueid

If they redesigned Tracer to please SJW i would not be surprised if they replace the guns with water guns or slingshots that shoot confetti bags.

I don't condone piracy but when companies censor their games to please pieces of garbage people they stop getting money from me.

@DNKano, if someone gets offended they can just look the other way and not buy the game. It's that simple. They don't have to ruin it for everyone else.

EDIT: the author of the petition is probably on drugs too, or is a very old person.

IceAge

Forgot to add the link to the petition : http://www.thepetitionsite.com/708/952/914/activision-blizzard-please-remove-guns-from-your-game-"overwatch."/

Sad think is, the author said that actually, Blizzard did removed the victory pose , which , if that's true , that is so fucked up ! 

I am not going into "DKano" theories , because I do not agree with his POV. 

I am just so fucking mad because of their customer support in HoTs and now .. about their changes to Tracer because some people with real life problem , can't actually understand that a game IS A GAME! 

joeslowmoe

How 'bout this bitch parents her children and doesn't let them play war games based video games if she finds them to be too violent for her parental tastes?  Is that really asking too much?  She'd rather ruin a game for everyone else who enjoys it, because she's a bad parent?

This type of entitlement needs a solid punch in the fucking face.

rojoArcueid

i can already see another petition coming from these people about making Tracer a straight girl. 

rojoArcueid

DMKano said:

IceAge said:

Forgot to add the link to the petition : http://www.thepetitionsite.com/708/952/914/activision-blizzard-please-remove-guns-from-your-game-"overwatch."/

Sad think is, the author said that actually, Blizzard did removed the victory pose , which , if that's true , that is so fucked up ! 

I am not going into "DKano" theories , because I do not agree with his POV. 

I am just so fucking mad because of their customer support in HoTs and now .. about their changes to Tracer because some people with real life problem , can't actually understand that a game IS A GAME! 

You can't understand that some people have a different viewpoint than yourself?

You can't understand that a large business with a huge general public playerbase has to tone things down for mass appeal?

what is there to tone down in OW? OW is the most family friendly shooter out there. It's so friendly they almost do handshakes when shooting. A demand for toning down would make a tiny little bit more sense in Battlefield, CoD, Titanfall, and other more violent and bloody games, which are also played by kids regardless of rating because you know, it's easier to throw parenting out the window and blame someone else.

IceAge

DMKano said:

IceAge said:

Forgot to add the link to the petition : http://www.thepetitionsite.com/708/952/914/activision-blizzard-please-remove-guns-from-your-game-"overwatch."/

Sad think is, the author said that actually, Blizzard did removed the victory pose , which , if that's true , that is so fucked up ! 

I am not going into "DKano" theories , because I do not agree with his POV. 

I am just so fucking mad because of their customer support in HoTs and now .. about their changes to Tracer because some people with real life problem , can't actually understand that a game IS A GAME! 

You can't understand that some people have a different viewpoint than yourself?

You can't understand that a large business with a huge general public playerbase has to tone things down for mass appeal?

1) I understand that some people have a different point of view. I already said you have a different POV , which I respect it but I don't agree with it .........

2) I understand that too. Which I am actually against it ! That is why I quit every Blizzard game. I don't want to take part into this shit. The only games which I will be playing are D3 , because it actually focus on single player with multiplayer options, which normally , I am playing with friends only , and SC2, for the same very reasons, and future Blizzard games which will only have the above "features" . 

I will not touch any Blizzard game where it involves "masses" . Not until things change, which ... I am afraid will not !

Horusra

rojoArcueid said:

i can already see another petition coming from these people about making Tracer a straight girl. 

most of your hippie peace lovers/anti-gun nuts are not on the conservative side.

Horusra

DMKano said:

Horusra said:

rojoArcueid said:

i can already see another petition coming from these people about making Tracer a straight girl. 

most of your hippie peace lovers/anti-gun nuts are not on the conservative side.

I am a gun  nut and a peace lover. Actually most of my friends I go shooting with are very much pro peace - and would never want to use a gun to harm anyone.

Heck most of my military buddies with real combat experience are very much pro peace.

Peace is a beautiful thing

you missed the hippie part....flower power make love not war...destroy all militaries.....doubt your military buddies are into disarming militaries...maybe in theory but not in realistic principals.

DreadTooth

I have yet to see a blizzard game that isn't based solely around violence.

Warcraft, Warcraft II, Warcraft III

Diablo, Diablo II, Diablo III

StarCraft, StarCraft II

World of Warcraft

Hearthstone (they are fighting, essentially)

Overwatch

Am I missing any?

Is there any reason anyone would expect a peaceful game from Blizzard? Their gaming history is rooted in violence-based storylines and gameplay.

What, does someone actually expect them to make a peaceful game or, even less likely, completely change a currently existing game into a peaceful version of itself, for what reason? Because a lot of people play their games? A lot of people have always played their games.

Can someone please explain the mindset and/or reasoning behind this, hope? expectation? I'm going with expectation.

DreadTooth

DMKano said:

rojoArcueid said:

DMKano said:

IceAge said:

Forgot to add the link to the petition : http://www.thepetitionsite.com/708/952/914/activision-blizzard-please-remove-guns-from-your-game-"overwatch."/

Sad think is, the author said that actually, Blizzard did removed the victory pose , which , if that's true , that is so fucked up ! 

I am not going into "DKano" theories , because I do not agree with his POV. 

I am just so fucking mad because of their customer support in HoTs and now .. about their changes to Tracer because some people with real life problem , can't actually understand that a game IS A GAME! 

You can't understand that some people have a different viewpoint than yourself?

You can't understand that a large business with a huge general public playerbase has to tone things down for mass appeal?

what is there to tone down in OW? OW is the most family friendly shooter out there. It's so friendly they almost do handshakes when shooting. A demand for toning down would make a tiny little bit more sense in Battlefield, CoD, Titanfall, and other more violent and bloody games, which are also played by kids regardless of rating because you know, it's easier to throw parenting out the window and blame someone else.

I don't work for Blizzard so I can' tell you what if anything is there to "tone down", you need to wait and see what if anything Blizzard does about it.

What Blizzard *could* do is put in a G rated mode - that when turned ON - removes guns etc...

I mean Blizzard can do whatever the heck they want, it's their game.

At first I thought, a G rated mode when turned on removes guns, hey that is actually a decent idea.

Then I remembered the old Disney movies, the ones I hesitate to let my kids watch after I re-watched them as an adult, were G rated. Those were some crazy plots for a G rated movie! Things were different when I was a kid, I watched a hell of a lot more violence than those G rated Disney movies. But, kids being turned into 'jackasses' (donkeys) and smoking and drinking while being tricked into human trafficking and/or child labor? Yeah Pinocchio is super G rated, THESE DAYS, right? No way that gets a G rating under today's system.

The reason I bring that up is, Overwatch is probably one of the more toned down FPS games I have seen. Comparably, considering it's cartoony appearance, it may have been a G rated Disney movie 30-40 years ago.

So what are they actually asking for? Today's version of G rating, no sexual poses or postures, presumably next will be no skin showing, no guns, no blood, no bad language, no suggestive themes, no 'jokes for adults' (like the Pixar movies).

That... That's not gonna work. That requires a new game, one that probably none of the current players, presumably, would ever consider playing.

Albatroes

If they dont like guns, they can just use Genji. 14k isn't alot when the game has a playerbase of millions. That's like saying they should do whatever the people at Nost want them just because it may have a following of 100k, when the current game has a few million still.

Dragnelus

They removed this one:

IceAge

Dragnelus said:

They removed this one:

Geezes!! 

Thanks to brave community organizers, Jeff Kaplan and Blizzard has finally done the right thing and removed a horribly sexist and offensive "victory pose" from a she-character known as "The Tracer."

A Horribly sexist and offensive ..............................................................

I am 100% sure, that those players are having VERY SERIOUS real life problems and they come in an online MULTIPLAYER game, to QQ about everything and their incompetence to hold-it their .... problems! 

While I feel bad about those kind of people , changing something because of their "ideas" is very bad for many reasons !

Octagon7711

Not much of a change.  But people are happy because of the change so I hear.

Dragnelus

Yeh they changed it for this one:

cheyane

Really why do they bother so much just police your own kids for goodness sake and not ruin it for others. 

signed 
a mother too.

BizkitNL

Why end there? How about removing guns from the real world?

Rasiem

God people are so wack and petty...

kitarad

Really dumb that victory pose is very nice. 

IceAge

DMKano said:

IceAge said:

Dragnelus said:

They removed this one:

Geezes!! 

Thanks to brave community organizers, Jeff Kaplan and Blizzard has finally done the right thing and removed a horribly sexist and offensive "victory pose" from a she-character known as "The Tracer."

A Horribly sexist and offensive ..............................................................

I am 100% sure, that those players are having VERY SERIOUS real life problems and they come in an online MULTIPLAYER game, to QQ about everything and their incompetence to hold-it their .... problems! 

While I feel bad about those kind of people , changing something because of their "ideas" is very bad for many reasons !

I am not following your train of thought here.

You complain how others complaining over a pose is "VERY SERIOUS real life problems" - but you complaining about Blizzard's removal over this pose is somehow different?

It's just two different opinions - neither is wrong or right. Its just people having different moral compass that's all.

In this case Blizzard chose to go along with removal of this pose, which is not the result you wanted - it's ok, life goes on, you know sometimes in life things don't go your way, it happens.

Just seems ironic to critique other's  QQing when you are basically doing the same thing because Blizzard didn't go along with your preference.

What the ... ?

Yes, I complain about those who are complaining over a victory pose , and I also complain about Blizzard removing that victory pose. 

Those are not two different opinions , but if let's say , there are 2 different opinions, then one is wrong and one isn't. If you cannot see the problem here, then that's your problem. 

So , the victory pose, is fucking problem if Blizzard decides to remove it , because some people acts like a VIDEO GAME , should make connection with REAL LIFE !

If someone says that the victory pose of Tracer is a horribly sexist and offensive pose, then that's a mental problem we are talking about. Or a very limited mind. 
 

Kyleran

Dragnelus said:

Yeh they changed it for this one:

I'd say the folks at Blizzard are showing their sense of humor by replacing the original victory pose with this clearly more "sexist" pin up girl one.

Well done I say.

MadFrenchie

Kyleran said:

Dragnelus said:

Yeh they changed it for this one:

I'd say the folks at Blizzard are showing their sense of humor by replacing the original victory pose with this clearly more "sexist" pin up girl one.

Well done I say.

And if it quelled the uprising, so to speak...  Then one of two things must necessarily be true:

1) The original outrage was nothing more than someone's bored attempts to control others' attention.

Or

2) The originally offended party's moral stance is inconsistent with itself and, as such, invalidates itself.  You cannot claim the moral high ground, much less rightfully demand someone acquiesce to your demands, when you can't even tell the difference between the "high ground" and the "low ground".

That's one of the biggest issues with humanity as a species these days: so many feel like their ignorance is worth just as much as someone else's knowledge.  Isaac Asimov noticed this back in the 70s, and the events of 2016, specifically here in the U.S., have done nothing but proven Mr. Asimov correct.

Theocritus

The only good players I saw in WoW were the former EQ, FFXI, AC, AO players....All the noobs that had WoW as their first MMO never learned how to play and the game lent itself to that by being too easy.

LoveRemovalMachine

Meanwhile in real life...