It's fine, but I do notice some features others have pointed out like the WAY over the top sexualized style for female toons. I make both sexes and frankly I'd like my female toons to not all look like they live and breath in lingerie. Some have them giggling like idiots. If I was a woman I might be offended, but it is a cultural thing. I get it. To optimize uptake in the west they might want to address that.
Secondly, I don't mind the cute little animals, but I personally can do without them
Lastly, I know they are coming from Korea but when imported to the west I really would like the option to make my toons similar to myself which is someone of African decent. I mentioned this in Revelation Online. Hopefully they will address that. It's just personal preference.
In the end, I would just prefer more options on my toons. It is VERY important to me. Again, one of the many reasons I love the freedom in CoH. One thing that bugs the heck out of me with BDO. How much does that cost!? AND it only applies to one toon! Bleep that!
That all said, they are interesting and I have played some. I do love the robes previewed in Revelation Online. Not sure if this is why I lose interest fast or maybe I am just like some in the community...waiting for the ONE.
Grew up on anime. Ninja Scroll, Akira, Gundam, Robotech, etc. Anime style is etched into my being. I can't hate on it ever. What I don't like is the whole loli pantsu fap squad perv stuff. I wish to play a 100% serious MMO with this art style one day.
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Im more into WoW and Wildstar style of art and graphics. Maybe thats becuase i was saturated with WoW for many years. I can still remember when i first came to WoW fresh from SWG and EQ2 and i wasnt that impressed with the art style, but it gradually grew on me and now i love it. Ive tried a few Korean MMO's (tried Black Desert Online today) and im always turned off by the graphics and movements. Its just not for me.
It's a fantasy setting so sure why not. Looks matter, and they look so much better than their Western contemporaries. As for realism, hmm because burning your enemies down with magic is so much more realistic than charging into battle wearing high heels right? :surprised:
Some of the Asian games I come across have some amazing artwork. Their Angel inspired costumes are beautiful, a theme the western developers seems afraid of touching.
And who has not at one point or another dreamt of becoming an amazing angel, whether it be from the cold light heavens above or the avenging dark angel counterpart. And when we loose our wings in life, who have not thought the symbol of a fallen angel have had a deep impact.
These are extremely powerful symbols in the west, yet we seem to stay clear of them by all means,. And when used, a shade of these symbols are merely confined to only being placed in strong NPCs.
So I love that the Asians are not afraid of fairies and angels and design them to stand out, going all the way.
But when they go the step further and let these angels and fairies play basketball or what ever else odd, it breaks the integrity of these creatures and their own art and the world that the art could represent and play a vital part in.
I am not sure Asians lets them self be confined to a theme and then create a narrow world, where only that theme is to rule.
Whereas in the western world, there is a tendency to define the characters and keep those characters within a world that follows their design and purpose and symbolic value.
I prefer the western art that follows a defined narrow path when designing characters in a matching world, yet I can easily appreciate the courage that the Asians have, they are not afraid of displaying and toying with strong symbols.
We could learn something from each other for sure.
The whole bare butt and huge boobs thing, I chose to ignore in this post, cause tbh if I have to be perfectly honest, I dont really mind either of those things, if its done with grace and taste. The Asians are just a tad too blatant and strong willed when they go for these things, so it often becomes intrusive and cheap to look at.
Can you look at a game screenshot and distinguish with 100% certainty that its Korean? Not Chinese or Japanese but Korean? There are cultural preferences - but what does that have to do with OPs proclaimed "Korean art style" If such a thing exists, shouldnt be clearly identifiable as Korean art?
As I said previously the vast majority of people understood the meaning of this thread and answered the question without batting an eyelid. However there are a couple of bores that decided that it was more fun arguing over semantics.
First of all I made it well clear in my OP and the successive post that I am generally referring to Asian Style MMOs, and not generic games....MMOs only. That's because this Art Style is very distinctive in the MMO category only, as for generic games it's much more difficult to distinguish an Easter game from a Western one.
Just because there is not a clear denomination for something it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, in fact the vast majority of people who read the title understood perfectly well what I was on about, which means that there is a general consensus that when someone says "Korean" or "Asian" Style MMO people associate that term with a specific type of MMO.
Arguing that everything needs to have a specific name in order to exist is ridiculous to say the least. There is an American style Pizza and an Italian style Pizza, it is not a stereotype, the 2 pizzas are just different and you can tell the difference just by looking at it. There is not fancy name for an Italian style pizza, it is just called like this, I don't see people arguing over stereotypes in that case, you just don't need a fancy name for everything.
Can you please stop this pointless argument over semantics when 99% of people understood perfectly well what I was referring to? Even Korean people didn't have a problem with it, so why don't you sit back and try to enjoy the thread without worrying over a denomination which nobody has a problem with, or shall we ask for a UN resolution over the matter? You are making a big fuss over nothing.
Can you look at a game screenshot and distinguish with 100% certainty that its Korean? Not Chinese or Japanese but Korean? There are cultural preferences - but what does that have to do with OPs proclaimed "Korean art style" If such a thing exists, shouldnt be clearly identifiable as Korean art?
As I said previously the vast majority of people understood the meaning of this thread and answered the question without batting an eyelid. However there are a couple of bores that decided that it was more fun arguing over semantics.
First of all I made it well clear in my OP and the successive post that I am generally referring to Asian Style MMOs, and not generic games....MMOs only. That's because this Art Style is very distinctive in the MMO category only, as for generic games it's much more difficult to distinguish an Easter game from a Western one.
Just because there is not a clear denomination for something it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, in fact the vast majority of people who read the title understood perfectly well what I was on about, which means that there is a general consensus that when someone says "Korean" or "Asian" Style MMO people associate that term with a specific type of MMO.
Arguing that everything needs to have a specific name in order to exist is ridiculous to say the least. There is an American style Pizza and an Italian style Pizza, it is not a stereotype, the 2 pizzas are just different and you can tell the difference just by looking at it. There is not fancy name for an Italian style pizza, it is just called like this, I don't see people arguing over stereotypes in that case, you just don't need a fancy name for everything.
Can you please stop this pointless argument over semantics when 99% of people understood perfectly well what I was referring to? Even Korean people didn't have a problem with it, so why don't you sit back and try to enjoy the thread without worrying over a denomination which nobody has a problem with, or shall we ask for a UN resolution over the matter? You are making a big fuss over nothing.
He's done this with me 2 times already and turned a simple comment into a back and forth debate over terminology that each time lasted days I doubt you've heard the last from him on this subject.
Can you look at a game screenshot and distinguish with 100% certainty that its Korean? Not Chinese or Japanese but Korean? There are cultural preferences - but what does that have to do with OPs proclaimed "Korean art style" If such a thing exists, shouldnt be clearly identifiable as Korean art?
As I said previously the vast majority of people understood the meaning of this thread and answered the question without batting an eyelid. However there are a couple of bores that decided that it was more fun arguing over semantics.
First of all I made it well clear in my OP and the successive post that I am generally referring to Asian Style MMOs, and not generic games....MMOs only. That's because this Art Style is very distinctive in the MMO category only, as for generic games it's much more difficult to distinguish an Easter game from a Western one.
Just because there is not a clear denomination for something it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, in fact the vast majority of people who read the title understood perfectly well what I was on about, which means that there is a general consensus that when someone says "Korean" or "Asian" Style MMO people associate that term with a specific type of MMO.
Arguing that everything needs to have a specific name in order to exist is ridiculous to say the least. There is an American style Pizza and an Italian style Pizza, it is not a stereotype, the 2 pizzas are just different and you can tell the difference just by looking at it. There is not fancy name for an Italian style pizza, it is just called like this, I don't see people arguing over stereotypes in that case, you just don't need a fancy name for everything.
Can you please stop this pointless argument over semantics when 99% of people understood perfectly well what I was referring to? Even Korean people didn't have a problem with it, so why don't you sit back and try to enjoy the thread without worrying over a denomination which nobody has a problem with, or shall we ask for a UN resolution over the matter? You are making a big fuss over nothing.
He's done this with me 2 times already and turned a simple comment into a back and forth debate over terminology that each time lasted days I doubt you've heard the last from him on this subject.
If you guys don't like having those deliberately argumentative conversations, then stop letting him bait you into them... He can't have a pointless debate without an opponent... just saying
He's done this with me 2 times already and turned a simple comment into a back and forth debate over terminology that each time lasted days I doubt you've heard the last from him on this subject.
I am sure you are not the only one to have noticed that, as it is something that happens quite often.
By the way that gave me an idea for my next thread.
While i may not like the more oriental based games very much, there is no doubt that they have created some very good looking games, the one that stands out from the rest to me is Black Desert, its a shame there are so many gender locked classes, but the art style is imo without fault it is one of the best looking fantasy games i have ever played.
There is no "korean" art style, just like there is no German art style or British art style.
The question is assuming a stereotype is true
Yes it is true. I really don't think that's up to discussion. 99% of people understood perfectly what this thread is about, but I accept there is the odd 1% that have to nitpick and focus on the exceptions, just for the sake of arguing.
Arguing boosts one's post count.
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I love Asian art when it takes itself seriously. They put out some of the most unique and beautiful designs for characters and monsters you will find in any game.
I absolutely hate Asian art when it is being cute or comedic. It is a special form of putrid that just annoys me constantly to the point I can't enjoy it. The cutsie animal characters, the pedo/loli races, the derpy looking monsters that look like they came out of an old NES game but in modern high detail that makes them look absurd. All of this needs to be poured into a hole, doused in gasoline and set on fire never to return.
Can you look at a game screenshot and distinguish with 100% certainty that its Korean? Not Chinese or Japanese but Korean? There are cultural preferences - but what does that have to do with OPs proclaimed "Korean art style" If such a thing exists, shouldnt be clearly identifiable as Korean art?
As I said previously the vast majority of people understood the meaning of this thread and answered the question without batting an eyelid. However there are a couple of bores that decided that it was more fun arguing over semantics.
First of all I made it well clear in my OP and the successive post that I am generally referring to Asian Style MMOs, and not generic games....MMOs only. That's because this Art Style is very distinctive in the MMO category only, as for generic games it's much more difficult to distinguish an Easter game from a Western one.
Just because there is not a clear denomination for something it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, in fact the vast majority of people who read the title understood perfectly well what I was on about, which means that there is a general consensus that when someone says "Korean" or "Asian" Style MMO people associate that term with a specific type of MMO.
Arguing that everything needs to have a specific name in order to exist is ridiculous to say the least. There is an American style Pizza and an Italian style Pizza, it is not a stereotype, the 2 pizzas are just different and you can tell the difference just by looking at it. There is not fancy name for an Italian style pizza, it is just called like this, I don't see people arguing over stereotypes in that case, you just don't need a fancy name for everything.
Can you please stop this pointless argument over semantics when 99% of people understood perfectly well what I was referring to? Even Korean people didn't have a problem with it, so why don't you sit back and try to enjoy the thread without worrying over a denomination which nobody has a problem with, or shall we ask for a UN resolution over the matter? You are making a big fuss over nothing.
You will hate me for this.
By American style pizza do you mean "Chicago" or "New York"?
Wait, where I live we also have "Greek" style pizzerias.
Then there is "Mei's Pizza" which seems like it might be Asian style, but I haven't tried it.
Strangely I can't think of any that advertise "Italian style"
(but yeah, I knew what you meant in the OP, and I generally make it my mission to split hairs here sometimes)
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By American style pizza do you mean "Chicago" or "New York"?
Wait, where I live we also have "Greek" style pizzerias.
No, no, it's fine, you are reinforcing my argument. I was replying to people saying there is not such a thing as a German style or a Korean Style, they claimed that something has to have a specific name to be a real style (Bauhaus or Manga). I just said that you don't need a fancy name. Most styles are simply known with the name of the places they come from. So the Chicago and New York Pizza fits perfectly my argument.
Damn, talking of Pizzas just made me so hungry........ O.o
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Secondly, I don't mind the cute little animals, but I personally can do without them
Lastly, I know they are coming from Korea but when imported to the west I really would like the option to make my toons similar to myself which is someone of African decent. I mentioned this in Revelation Online. Hopefully they will address that. It's just personal preference.
In the end, I would just prefer more options on my toons. It is VERY important to me. Again, one of the many reasons I love the freedom in CoH. One thing that bugs the heck out of me with BDO. How much does that cost!? AND it only applies to one toon! Bleep that!
That all said, they are interesting and I have played some. I do love the robes previewed in Revelation Online. Not sure if this is why I lose interest fast or maybe I am just like some in the community...waiting for the ONE.
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Cat/rabbit ears, child like races, cute furry animal or skateboards just annoy me to no end.
If they would just take themselves more seriously I'd like them better.
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Ive tried a few Korean MMO's (tried Black Desert Online today) and im always turned off by the graphics and movements. Its just not for me.
And who has not at one point or another dreamt of becoming an amazing angel, whether it be from the cold light heavens above or the avenging dark angel counterpart. And when we loose our wings in life, who have not thought the symbol of a fallen angel have had a deep impact.
These are extremely powerful symbols in the west, yet we seem to stay clear of them by all means,. And when used, a shade of these symbols are merely confined to only being placed in strong NPCs.
So I love that the Asians are not afraid of fairies and angels and design them to stand out, going all the way.
But when they go the step further and let these angels and fairies play basketball or what ever else odd, it breaks the integrity of these creatures and their own art and the world that the art could represent and play a vital part in.
I am not sure Asians lets them self be confined to a theme and then create a narrow world, where only that theme is to rule.
Whereas in the western world, there is a tendency to define the characters and keep those characters within a world that follows their design and purpose and symbolic value.
I prefer the western art that follows a defined narrow path when designing characters in a matching world, yet I can easily appreciate the courage that the Asians have, they are not afraid of displaying and toying with strong symbols.
We could learn something from each other for sure.
The whole bare butt and huge boobs thing, I chose to ignore in this post, cause tbh if I have to be perfectly honest, I dont really mind either of those things, if its done with grace and taste.
The Asians are just a tad too blatant and strong willed when they go for these things, so it often becomes intrusive and cheap to look at.
However there are a couple of bores that decided that it was more fun arguing over semantics.
First of all I made it well clear in my OP and the successive post that I am generally referring to Asian Style MMOs, and not generic games....MMOs only.
That's because this Art Style is very distinctive in the MMO category only, as for generic games it's much more difficult to distinguish an Easter game from a Western one.
Just because there is not a clear denomination for something it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, in fact the vast majority of people who read the title understood perfectly well what I was on about, which means that there is a general consensus that when someone says "Korean" or "Asian" Style MMO people associate that term with a specific type of MMO.
Arguing that everything needs to have a specific name in order to exist is ridiculous to say the least.
There is an American style Pizza and an Italian style Pizza, it is not a stereotype, the 2 pizzas are just different and you can tell the difference just by looking at it.
There is not fancy name for an Italian style pizza, it is just called like this, I don't see people arguing over stereotypes in that case, you just don't need a fancy name for everything.
Can you please stop this pointless argument over semantics when 99% of people understood perfectly well what I was referring to?
Even Korean people didn't have a problem with it, so why don't you sit back and try to enjoy the thread without worrying over a denomination which nobody has a problem with, or shall we ask for a UN resolution over the matter?
You are making a big fuss over nothing.
I doubt you've heard the last from him on this subject.
Chibi stuff is meh, games like BDO, Bless, etc I'm fine with.
He can't have a pointless debate without an opponent... just saying
I am sure you are not the only one to have noticed that, as it is something that happens quite often.
By the way that gave me an idea for my next thread.
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I absolutely hate Asian art when it is being cute or comedic. It is a special form of putrid that just annoys me constantly to the point I can't enjoy it. The cutsie animal characters, the pedo/loli races, the derpy looking monsters that look like they came out of an old NES game but in modern high detail that makes them look absurd. All of this needs to be poured into a hole, doused in gasoline and set on fire never to return.
By American style pizza do you mean "Chicago" or "New York"?
Wait, where I live we also have "Greek" style pizzerias.
Then there is "Mei's Pizza" which seems like it might be Asian style, but I haven't tried it.
Strangely I can't think of any that advertise "Italian style"
(but yeah, I knew what you meant in the OP, and I generally make it my mission to split hairs here sometimes)
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I was replying to people saying there is not such a thing as a German style or a Korean Style, they claimed that something has to have a specific name to be a real style (Bauhaus or Manga).
I just said that you don't need a fancy name.
Most styles are simply known with the name of the places they come from.
So the Chicago and New York Pizza fits perfectly my argument.
Damn, talking of Pizzas just made me so hungry........ O.o
But that doesn't surprise me one bit, I gave up already on some people reading skills on this forum.....