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Brief First Impressions after 7 hours (Updated a week later)

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Maurgrim said:

    Just like any other Bioware game but with better graphics, I prefer total open world and less story. 

    Bioware have a bad habit of leading you. 
    Well the first part of the game were very much on rails, I guess It was like a tutorial more or less, then when you get to the first planet it was quite open not much on rails at all, you could go for main mission or stumble upon side missions while you were exploring, quite enjoyable for me at least, only real gripe I had so far with the game were It was poorly optimized and the menu for journal was really a mess.
    Yeah that's what I meant that it reminded me of Dragon Age inquisition in that you don't have a seamless open world but you planets in MEA are like the larger regions in DAI. The first real planet you explore, EOS seemed to me to have more exploration area than even the Hinterlands. Also the Forward Stations are pretty much like camps in DAI giving you quick travel once you find them.
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  • xpsyncxpsync Member EpicPosts: 1,854
    edited March 2017
    The game is Amazing! An Epic Space Opera not to be missed by any SciFi fan.

    You snapshot the internet on this game, It's meh.

    Bad Reviews, people's toxic babble, all couldn't be more wrong, I'm not sure what it is? spoiled, uninformed, idiocy, unhappy?

    First any reviewer who gave this anything less than 80% should move on and find something else to do as you don't love games anymore, find something you do love and stop bothering us with the sewage coming from your mind. The rest that don't like this game, well... sucks to be you.
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  • hatefulpeacehatefulpeace Member UncommonPosts: 621
    xpsync said:
    The game is Amazing! An Epic Space Opera not to be missed by any SciFi fan.

    You snapshot the internet on this game, It's meh.

    Bad Reviews, people's toxic babble, all couldn't be more wrong, I'm not sure what it is? spoiled, uninformed, idiocy, unhappy?

    First any reviewer who gave this anything less than 80% should move on and find something else to do as you don't love games anymore, find something you do love and stop bothering us with the sewage coming from your mind. The rest that don't like this game, well... sucks to be you.
    Just because some one gave this game a bad review doesn't mean they don't like game. 
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    edited March 2017
    xpsync said:
    The game is Amazing! An Epic Space Opera not to be missed by any SciFi fan.

    You snapshot the internet on this game, It's meh.

    Bad Reviews, people's toxic babble, all couldn't be more wrong, I'm not sure what it is? spoiled, uninformed, idiocy, unhappy?

    First any reviewer who gave this anything less than 80% should move on and find something else to do as you don't love games anymore, find something you do love and stop bothering us with the sewage coming from your mind. The rest that don't like this game, well... sucks to be you.
    The "masters" will be pleased to hear your "programming" has been successful, bonuses for everyone.

    ;)

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Kyleran said:

    (special rewards coming your way @iselin, do you prefer blondes or redheads?)  B)
    Redheads or blue skin... either one.

    But Suvi doesn't seem to be interested in me. I think I do have a shot with Peebee though :)
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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,386
    Anyone as awesome as Garrus in this one is mine !!!!
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  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,034
    josko9 said:
    I don't even like sci-fi, yet Mass Effect is probably my favourite RPG series of all time. Nobody does story as well as Bioware, not even CDPR (and they are exceptional!). 

    I have no idea why is there so much hate for Bioware, is it just because they are with EA now? Because honestly all of their games were great, no exceptions. Even the latest DA:Inqusition, which was heavily hated on the internet won quite a lot of GOTY awards. 

    My biggest gripe with ME:Andromeda are the facial animations, they aren't bad, but neither are they great. When the rest of the game is AMAZING, it's hard to understand why didn't they bother to improve them. Hell they are way better than those in Fallout 4 (which are really bad), yet somehow FO4 is still better than 99% of the games released in this decade.

    This is definitively a GOTY material. If 2016 was a pretty disappointing year for gaming (in terms of GOTY contenders, and in general game quality), then 2017 is definitively shaping up to be way better.



    Honestly, it's just the typical EA/Bioware hate.  No game they will release, no matter how good it is will ever squelch the bandwagon haters.  It's pretty sad that some of these grown ups have nothing better to do than trash a video game and developer.  I completely understand why the co-founders of Bioware left gaming all together.  If I ever got this emotionally unstable about video games, I would probably find a new hobby.
  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,034
    Iselin said:
    Kyleran said:

    (special rewards coming your way @iselin, do you prefer blondes or redheads?)  B)
    Redheads or blue skin... either one.

    But Suvi doesn't seem to be interested in me. I think I do have a shot with Peebee though :)
    I liked her till she got all religious in my conversation with her.   Wish I could trade her in for another krogan lol.
  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,096
    edited March 2017
    josko9 said:
    I don't even like sci-fi, yet Mass Effect is probably my favourite RPG series of all time. Nobody does story as well as Bioware, not even CDPR (and they are exceptional!). 

    I have no idea why is there so much hate for Bioware, is it just because they are with EA now? Because honestly all of their games were great, no exceptions. Even the latest DA:Inqusition, which was heavily hated on the internet won quite a lot of GOTY awards. 

    My biggest gripe with ME:Andromeda are the facial animations, they aren't bad, but neither are they great. When the rest of the game is AMAZING, it's hard to understand why didn't they bother to improve them. Hell they are way better than those in Fallout 4 (which are really bad), yet somehow FO4 is still better than 99% of the games released in this decade.

    This is definitively a GOTY material. If 2016 was a pretty disappointing year for gaming (in terms of GOTY contenders, and in general game quality), then 2017 is definitively shaping up to be way better.



    Honestly, it's just the typical EA/Bioware hate.  No game they will release, no matter how good it is will ever squelch the bandwagon haters.  It's pretty sad that some of these grown ups have nothing better to do than trash a video game and developer.  I completely understand why the co-founders of Bioware left gaming all together.  If I ever got this emotionally unstable about video games, I would probably find a new hobby.

    That is Complete Bullocks!


    ME1 to ME3 got good user reviews ( ME3 a little lower due to the hate about the ending, but that's it ).

    Dragon Age and Dragon Age:Inquisition got good user reviews as well.

    Mass Effect:Adromeda is the first Bioware game in a long time that gets slammed into the ground by user reviews and rightfully so.

    When User Metracritic is currently 4.5/10. Sorry, but then there is some truth in it somewhere. If enough people actually like the game, then the Metracritic would be higher to offset the pure haters.
    It normally always Balance eachother out.  White Knights giving a 10 being offset by haters giving it a 1.
    Then the metracritic settles itself with the actual players giving it "real" scores and right now we are at 4.5/10.

    On the Playstation store it's not that much better either.

    Horizon Zero Dawn acquired nearly 2000 user ratings in just two weeks and sits at 5/5 stars.

    ME:Adromeda got at a mere 247 ratings so far after nearly a week and sits at 3/5 stars. 
  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,034
    edited March 2017
    JeroKane said: 
    josko9 said:
    I don't even like sci-fi, yet Mass Effect is probably my favourite RPG series of all time. Nobody does story as well as Bioware, not even CDPR (and they are exceptional!). 

    I have no idea why is there so much hate for Bioware, is it just because they are with EA now? Because honestly all of their games were great, no exceptions. Even the latest DA:Inqusition, which was heavily hated on the internet won quite a lot of GOTY awards. 

    My biggest gripe with ME:Andromeda are the facial animations, they aren't bad, but neither are they great. When the rest of the game is AMAZING, it's hard to understand why didn't they bother to improve them. Hell they are way better than those in Fallout 4 (which are really bad), yet somehow FO4 is still better than 99% of the games released in this decade.

    This is definitively a GOTY material. If 2016 was a pretty disappointing year for gaming (in terms of GOTY contenders, and in general game quality), then 2017 is definitively shaping up to be way better.



    Honestly, it's just the typical EA/Bioware hate.  No game they will release, no matter how good it is will ever squelch the bandwagon haters.  It's pretty sad that some of these grown ups have nothing better to do than trash a video game and developer.  I completely understand why the co-founders of Bioware left gaming all together.  If I ever got this emotionally unstable about video games, I would probably find a new hobby.

    That is Complete Bullocks!


    ME1 to ME3 got good user reviews ( ME3 a little lower due to the hate about the ending, but that's it ).

    Dragon Age and Dragon Age:Inquisition got good user reviews as well.

    Mass Effect:Adromeda is the first Bioware game in a long time that gets slammed into the ground by user reviews and rightfully so.

    When User Metracritic is currently 4.5/10. Sorry, but then there is some truth in it somewhere. If enough people actually like the game, then the Metracritic would be higher to offset the pure haters.
    It normally always Balance eachother out.  White Knights giving a 10 being offset by haters giving it a 1.
    Then the metracritic settles itself with the actual players giving it "real" scores and right now we are at 4.5/10.

    On the Playstation store it's not that much better either.

    Horizon Zero Dawn acquired nearly 2000 user ratings in just two weeks and sits at 5/5 stars.

    ME:Adromeda got at a mere 247 ratings so far after nearly a week and sits at 3/5 stars. 
    Lol, whatever you say.  EA gets more vitriol than any other publisher. Bioware being second. If you dont think so, you must be new to the Internet.  The hate started with DA2.  Not this game.  You obviously are oblivious to how meta critic is trolled on almost every EA title.  People giving the games 0/10 is not subjective. Most of these trolls haven't even played the game they harp on. It's just good old fashion hate.
  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,096
    edited March 2017
    JeroKane said: 
    josko9 said:
    I don't even like sci-fi, yet Mass Effect is probably my favourite RPG series of all time. Nobody does story as well as Bioware, not even CDPR (and they are exceptional!). 

    I have no idea why is there so much hate for Bioware, is it just because they are with EA now? Because honestly all of their games were great, no exceptions. Even the latest DA:Inqusition, which was heavily hated on the internet won quite a lot of GOTY awards. 

    My biggest gripe with ME:Andromeda are the facial animations, they aren't bad, but neither are they great. When the rest of the game is AMAZING, it's hard to understand why didn't they bother to improve them. Hell they are way better than those in Fallout 4 (which are really bad), yet somehow FO4 is still better than 99% of the games released in this decade.

    This is definitively a GOTY material. If 2016 was a pretty disappointing year for gaming (in terms of GOTY contenders, and in general game quality), then 2017 is definitively shaping up to be way better.



    Honestly, it's just the typical EA/Bioware hate.  No game they will release, no matter how good it is will ever squelch the bandwagon haters.  It's pretty sad that some of these grown ups have nothing better to do than trash a video game and developer.  I completely understand why the co-founders of Bioware left gaming all together.  If I ever got this emotionally unstable about video games, I would probably find a new hobby.

    That is Complete Bullocks!


    ME1 to ME3 got good user reviews ( ME3 a little lower due to the hate about the ending, but that's it ).

    Dragon Age and Dragon Age:Inquisition got good user reviews as well.

    Mass Effect:Adromeda is the first Bioware game in a long time that gets slammed into the ground by user reviews and rightfully so.

    When User Metracritic is currently 4.5/10. Sorry, but then there is some truth in it somewhere. If enough people actually like the game, then the Metracritic would be higher to offset the pure haters.
    It normally always Balance eachother out.  White Knights giving a 10 being offset by haters giving it a 1.
    Then the metracritic settles itself with the actual players giving it "real" scores and right now we are at 4.5/10.

    On the Playstation store it's not that much better either.

    Horizon Zero Dawn acquired nearly 2000 user ratings in just two weeks and sits at 5/5 stars.

    ME:Adromeda got at a mere 247 ratings so far after nearly a week and sits at 3/5 stars. 
    Lol, whatever you say.  EA gets more vitriol than any other publisher. Bioware being second. If you dont think so, you must be new to the Internet.  The hate started with DA2.  Not this game.  You obviously are oblivious to how meta critic is trolled on almost every EA title.  People giving the games 0/10 is not subjective. Most of these trolls haven't even played the game they harp on. It's just good old fashion hate.

    You pretty much confirm. The hate started with DA2?  Yes, because it was a crappy game and terribly executed. A farcry from the original DA, which was a master piece.

    After that came Dragon Age:Inquisition and eventhough I was dissapointed and got into a burnout after getting the Castle (story fell flat and game turned in a horrible boring grind) it got a decent user critic score ending on 5.9.

    Almost every single game gets trolled in user critics. The thing is, for every white Knight giving a 10/10 there is a hater giving it a 0/0. So we end up at 5/10 average.
    Then we have the real players who give "real" scores that settle the final average score.

    The fact is, even ME3 (heavily hated and debated regarding the terrible endings) still managed to score a 5.8 on Metacritic.

    ME:Adromeda is just stuck at a 4.5 and the Professional reviews have dropped to an average 7.4 score. 
    Same on Playstation Network, where it's stuck at just 3 out of 5 stars.



  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited March 2017
    A few more observations after playing for a week.

    This game is gigantic.


    There is almost too much content... if that's even possible in a game you enjoy. There are many, many side quests some of which seem trivial until you're doing them and find out there is a truly epic payoff.

    The best example of this is a seemingly routine quest you get in Eos after you've already established a colony there. Nothing leads you to that quest other than an innocuous blue border exclamation mark icon which is how minor, routine quests are highlighted.

    I won't spoil it by telling you which quest it is but the end of this quest leads you to your first fight with an architect, MEA's "techno-dragons". And that fight is a doozy. It's much tougher than anything you've fought or probably will fight.

    Those annoying nested folders that they've chosen to use for quests in your journal almost start to make sense as a way of organizing the almost overwhelming number of quests you will run into along the way. The folders are still a pain to work with but once you realize how many quests there are, you at at least understand why they chose to not do it the ME3 way with one long list. You'd be scrolling forever if it was just one list.

    You level higher than in previous games.


    I've been playing this to the exclusion of all other games for the past week, am level 32 and I still only have two colonies. I have no idea what level I will get to eventually but I think I'm less than half way through it.

    Some crafting is good for you


    Research and development in this game is very different than previous ME games. You still do not have to craft if you don't want as there are enough drops (which all seem to be level appropriate) that you can make do just fine with what you scavenge or buy.

    But there are some serious advantages to crafting your own. Not only do you end-up with weapons that have 4 mod slots instead of the normal 2 this way, you can also customize whatever you craft with augments that give you useful abilities. You want your assault rifle to enhance your biotics? You can do that. Want to add a grenade launcher to your assault rifle? You can also do that.

    It's worth looking into it even just to dabble with your favorite weapon type or two.

    Weapon types can do many different things.


    The itemization within general weapon categories is deep. Some assault rifles, for example, are the automatic or semi-auto types you would expect, But then there are the ones that have a limited clip and fire explosive rounds... or the non-auto types that pack a bigger punch... or the ones you can charge-up before you fire a burst that does extra damage...

    It's very well done and can add a lot of variety to firefights.


    That's all for now... back to playing.
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  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    edited March 2017
    JeroKane said:
    JeroKane said: 
    josko9 said:
    I don't even like sci-fi, yet Mass Effect is probably my favourite RPG series of all time. Nobody does story as well as Bioware, not even CDPR (and they are exceptional!). 

    I have no idea why is there so much hate for Bioware, is it just because they are with EA now? Because honestly all of their games were great, no exceptions. Even the latest DA:Inqusition, which was heavily hated on the internet won quite a lot of GOTY awards. 

    My biggest gripe with ME:Andromeda are the facial animations, they aren't bad, but neither are they great. When the rest of the game is AMAZING, it's hard to understand why didn't they bother to improve them. Hell they are way better than those in Fallout 4 (which are really bad), yet somehow FO4 is still better than 99% of the games released in this decade.

    This is definitively a GOTY material. If 2016 was a pretty disappointing year for gaming (in terms of GOTY contenders, and in general game quality), then 2017 is definitively shaping up to be way better.



    Honestly, it's just the typical EA/Bioware hate.  No game they will release, no matter how good it is will ever squelch the bandwagon haters.  It's pretty sad that some of these grown ups have nothing better to do than trash a video game and developer.  I completely understand why the co-founders of Bioware left gaming all together.  If I ever got this emotionally unstable about video games, I would probably find a new hobby.

    That is Complete Bullocks!


    ME1 to ME3 got good user reviews ( ME3 a little lower due to the hate about the ending, but that's it ).

    Dragon Age and Dragon Age:Inquisition got good user reviews as well.

    Mass Effect:Adromeda is the first Bioware game in a long time that gets slammed into the ground by user reviews and rightfully so.

    When User Metracritic is currently 4.5/10. Sorry, but then there is some truth in it somewhere. If enough people actually like the game, then the Metracritic would be higher to offset the pure haters.
    It normally always Balance eachother out.  White Knights giving a 10 being offset by haters giving it a 1.
    Then the metracritic settles itself with the actual players giving it "real" scores and right now we are at 4.5/10.

    On the Playstation store it's not that much better either.

    Horizon Zero Dawn acquired nearly 2000 user ratings in just two weeks and sits at 5/5 stars.

    ME:Adromeda got at a mere 247 ratings so far after nearly a week and sits at 3/5 stars. 
    Lol, whatever you say.  EA gets more vitriol than any other publisher. Bioware being second. If you dont think so, you must be new to the Internet.  The hate started with DA2.  Not this game.  You obviously are oblivious to how meta critic is trolled on almost every EA title.  People giving the games 0/10 is not subjective. Most of these trolls haven't even played the game they harp on. It's just good old fashion hate.

    You pretty much confirm. The hate started with DA2?  Yes, because it was a crappy game and terribly executed. A farcry from the original DA, which was a master piece.

    After that came Dragon Age:Inquisition and eventhough I was dissapointed and got into a burnout after getting the Castle (story fell flat and game turned in a horrible boring grind) it got a decent user critic score ending on 5.9.

    Almost every single game gets trolled in user critics. The thing is, for every white Knight giving a 10/10 there is a hater giving it a 0/0. So we end up at 5/10 average.
    Then we have the real players who give "real" scores that settle the final average score.

    The fact is, even ME3 (heavily hated and debated regarding the terrible endings) still managed to score a 5.8 on Metacritic.

    ME:Adromeda is just stuck at a 4.5 and the Professional reviews have dropped to an average 7.4 score. 
    Same on Playstation Network, where it's stuck at just 3 out of 5 stars.



    Allow me to disagree about DA2 being a crappy game. Yes it had flaws and shortcomings but it was a solid rpg nonetheless. With a better story than DA:O. As for comparing it to the later, this is a double edged sword. Yes, DA:O may be a masterpiece compared to DA2 but when compared to its spiritual predecessor Baldur's Gate 2 it falls extremely short.

    In regards to ME:A the problem lies in the fact that a number of players and reviewers are way to attached to Shepard's journey and can't let go. They refuse to see the new game from a completely new perspective. It's a different timeline in a new galaxy. The mood is different.

    It's interesting to watch said reviewers playing such a big game for less than 10 hours and then rushing to jump on the hate bandwagon and talk about animations and facial expressions. The vast majority of the negative reviews fails to see the scope of ME:A which is bigger than any other Bioware game so far. They do not even mention combat, character advancement / rpg elements and the dialogue system. Aspects in which this game surpasses its predecessors.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Shodanas said:

    It's interesting to watch said reviewers playing such a big game for less than 10 hours and then rushing to jump on the hate bandwagon and talk about animations and facial expressions. The vast majority of the negative reviews fails to see the scope of ME:A which is bigger than any other Bioware game so far. They do not even mention combat, character advancement / rpg elements and the dialogue system. Aspects in which this game surpasses its predecessors.
    Agreed. The whole facial animation internet craze is a trivial tempest in a teapot. The game is so much more than that.

    It's also interesting to play the previous games in close proximity to each other as I did with both the ME series and the DA series for the past couple of months. You notice design changes over time a lot more when your memory is fresh.

    For example, I had forgotten just how confined the terrain in both DAO and DA2 were until I replayed them after having played DAI. It was the same with the 3 previous ME games where they channel the play into confined corridors.

    MEA opens the playable parts of the worlds even beyond what they did with DAI. It's by far the most open world of the 7 games to date.

    But then, you have to actually play it and get to Eos before you would even know that.
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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,164
    Thank you Iselin I trust you and your review has me really jumping to play especially what you wrote about the side quests. I am really ready to move on from Shepard no problem there for me and I really do enjoy good stories. Since you explained your reasons this is why I trust the review as opposed to some of the short and truly poorly written ones I saw online  that seemed to be about holding grudges against Biroware than about really reviewing this game.

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    kitarad said:
    I am really ready to move on from Shepard no problem there for me and I really do enjoy good stories. 
    I made my custom male Ryder look like Shepard as much as possible (using the ever popular face #3)... it helps with the transition :)
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  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    Iselin said:
    kitarad said:
    I am really ready to move on from Shepard no problem there for me and I really do enjoy good stories. 
    I made my custom male Ryder look like Shepard as much as possible (using the ever popular face #3)... it helps with the transition :)
    That's exactly what i did. Spend almost 1 hour with the creator trying to make a new Shepard. :p
  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    Shodanas said:
    Iselin said:
    kitarad said:
    I am really ready to move on from Shepard no problem there for me and I really do enjoy good stories. 
    I made my custom male Ryder look like Shepard as much as possible (using the ever popular face #3)... it helps with the transition :)
    That's exactly what i did. Spend almost 1 hour with the creator trying to make a new Shepard. :p
    Man I tried (as I always do when I can create a character) in making my Ryder look like me. My Shep looked close (much more younger and rugged/handsome than me B) ...) but I could not get my Ryder close at all. Nowhere near as many choices it seems. Only thing that looks similar is that my Ryder looks like a middle aged man, so I guess I got one thing right?

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  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    bartoni33 said:
    Shodanas said:
    Iselin said:
    kitarad said:
    I am really ready to move on from Shepard no problem there for me and I really do enjoy good stories. 
    I made my custom male Ryder look like Shepard as much as possible (using the ever popular face #3)... it helps with the transition :)
    That's exactly what i did. Spend almost 1 hour with the creator trying to make a new Shepard. :p
    Man I tried (as I always do when I can create a character) in making my Ryder look like me. My Shep looked close (much more younger and rugged/handsome than me B) ...) but I could not get my Ryder close at all. Nowhere near as many choices it seems. Only thing that looks similar is that my Ryder looks like a middle aged man, so I guess I got one thing right?
    I agree that the creator could use some more options. As it is now you still can create something to your liking but you need to be glued to the screen for quite some time and requires a lot of micromanaging. I succeeded  to create my male Ryder resembling my Shepard. Like you i always try to make my characters look like they are in their mid 30's early 40's.
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    Shodanas said:
    bartoni33 said:
    Shodanas said:
    Iselin said:
    kitarad said:
    I am really ready to move on from Shepard no problem there for me and I really do enjoy good stories. 
    I made my custom male Ryder look like Shepard as much as possible (using the ever popular face #3)... it helps with the transition :)
    That's exactly what i did. Spend almost 1 hour with the creator trying to make a new Shepard. :p
    Man I tried (as I always do when I can create a character) in making my Ryder look like me. My Shep looked close (much more younger and rugged/handsome than me B) ...) but I could not get my Ryder close at all. Nowhere near as many choices it seems. Only thing that looks similar is that my Ryder looks like a middle aged man, so I guess I got one thing right?
    I agree that the creator could use some more options. As it is now you still can create something to your liking but you need to be glued to the screen for quite some time and requires a lot of micromanaging. I succeeded  to create my male Ryder resembling my Shepard. Like you i always try to make my characters look like they are in their mid 30's early 40's.
    I do too but in the case of Andromeda and the way that Ryder behaves overall -- and largely without any other choice (i.e. "mature") -- there's sort of a disconnect for me in a way that I never felt with Shepard in the Original Trilogy. Sorta bums me out in a way even though I honestly like the game.


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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Yes, the animations in ME:A are somewhat special :p

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpKhH_sQHRI
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    Phry said:
    Yes, the animations in ME:A are somewhat special :p

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpKhH_sQHRI
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    I do agree 100% you don't want to remove story and skip cutscenes,my point was only that the story telling and lack of anything in the CS's just made them sooooo boring to watch that it made me fidget like a kid in church,wanting to run away.

    So much work in gaming really looks like a lazy effort,there is little quality in game development anymore.Stick a character in the scene,attach a voice over ,close in on the face,thanks for watching...next.Oh i forgot the interaction,please pick one of the two choices, the immersion is already lost because nothing will happen until you click a choice,but just pretend it was all fluent dialogue.

    Me i like action,a scene with lots of animation,action,I feel a CS needs to be special like an event and not just an idea to stick a voice over in somewhere.
    For interaction i want like Ulima Online,i want to be able to pick everything up and use it,i don't want to click between a couple choices because it does nothing for me or the immersion.

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  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,096
    edited March 2017
    Shodanas said:
     



    Allow me to disagree about DA2 being a crappy game. Yes it had flaws and shortcomings but it was a solid rpg nonetheless. With a better story than DA:O. As for comparing it to the later, this is a double edged sword. Yes, DA:O may be a masterpiece compared to DA2 but when compared to its spiritual predecessor Baldur's Gate 2 it falls extremely short.

    In regards to ME:A the problem lies in the fact that a number of players and reviewers are way to attached to Shepard's journey and can't let go. They refuse to see the new game from a completely new perspective. It's a different timeline in a new galaxy. The mood is different.

    It's interesting to watch said reviewers playing such a big game for less than 10 hours and then rushing to jump on the hate bandwagon and talk about animations and facial expressions. The vast majority of the negative reviews fails to see the scope of ME:A which is bigger than any other Bioware game so far. They do not even mention combat, character advancement / rpg elements and the dialogue system. Aspects in which this game surpasses its predecessors.

    Bullocks. I am a diehard Mass Effect fan and I let go of Sheppard the moment I finished ME3. I knew it was the end.

    The lead writers of ME leaving Bioware shortly after pretty much settled Sheppard's faith as well. So I knew 4 years back already that Sheppard was not coming back if an inevitable ME4 would be coming.

    The hate has nothing to do with Sheppard.

    The fact is, the ME trilogy with Sheppard and the Reapers was such a strong and compelling story, it was hard to go beyond that.

    Me personally, Mass Effect:Adromeda has absolutely nothing to do anymore with Mass Effect.
    We are in a New Galaxy now, no more Mass Effect gates (they were destroyed), etc.

    They would have been better off calling the game just Adromeda and not use the Mass Effect name.

    The moment you use the name Mass Effect, people will have high expectations.



    Compared to the ME trilogy, Mass Effect:Adromeda is a mediocre game. A mediocre story (terribly inconsistent and non-cohesive). Terrible dialogs.  Mediocre animations.  Mediocre mission design with tons of terrible side missions just rushed into the game as filler content, etc.

    The Production quality of this game is just not on the same level as the original trilogy. 

    I have a feeling that after the backlash of the ME3 endings and the departure of the original lead writers, that EA just didn't see Mass Effect as a main franchise anymore and give it the same level of Resources, focus and investement as they did with the original trilogy. Hence, the mediocre result and resulting reviews.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    JeroKane said:

    I have a feeling that after the backlash of the ME3 endings and the departure of the original lead writers, that EA just didn't see Mass Effect as a main franchise anymore and give it the same level of Resources, focus and investement as they did with the original trilogy. Hence, the mediocre result and resulting reviews.
    That's not what I'm seeing. Every other MEA Metacritic user "review" seems to have either "SJW" or "racism against whites" in there somewhere and often both.

    I'm sure there are legitimate reasons for some people to not like MEA but what I'm seeing is an orchestrated hate campaign with political motivations to metabomb it.

    If you take that shit out of the equation the user scores would be a lot closer to the professional review scores.

    Yeah it's not the ME trilogy and the characters and stories are brand new. Of course we can't have 10 years of familiarity with the characters and the issues they face. It's a whole different story but the sense of exploration and discovery in this one is IMO, better than the originals. I already like this one better than the original 3 in both story content and game play mechanics.
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