Guys! I have been designing an MMO for the past 3 years, and need 500 thousand to finish it and another 5 million to do everything I ever want.
You can't say I'm lying about that because you don't have proof that I am lying, so logically I do have an amazing never before seen next generation MMO with the best graphics ever.
It will be on kickstarter soon! along with profiles of my friends and family also working on the game, its a family run MMO! That makes it even better and proves I am telling the truth. I also have long time friends working on the game so you know they are honest if I've known them so long!
Just remember, you don't have proof that there is nothing to show, so just send me your cash and you will get something amazing!
My Skyrim, Fallout 4, Starbound and WoW + other game mods at MODDB:
Nobody is forcing them to be transparent, that's their motto. If he made a claim then he has to back it with evidence, not us that would have to disprove the nonexistence of something that has no proof of existence.
If they don't want then good. We move on. But don't ask to anyone here to just shush about it - you lose your point there.
That is so very wrong. Are you 100% sure it does not exist because I do not currently have proof? If not then you are choosing to believe it does not exist. Therefor we are both relying on belief and not fact.
You are acting like you have some logical high ground when it isn't true. You can not have proof of something and it still exist.
Because we don't have proof of how gravity works does that mean it doesn't exist?
The same applies to you though. You have no proof that he doesn't have 30 million. So right now he does have the 30 million logically. Right now it is in a state of Schrodinger's Millions. I never claimed to have proof. I just believe him.
This were our education system has failed. I can't seriously reply to this because it is beyond ridiculous.
Nice. Keep up the insults without giving a serious response. You must be desperate. Like I said regardless. We both believe different things. Not sure why you guys care so much about something you no interest in. You spend all day here in these forums.
He/she has an agenda
whether that is to save the world? or get even with someone?
Guys! I have been designing an MMO for the past 3 years, and need 500 thousand to finish it and another 5 million to do everything I ever want.
You can't say I'm lying about that because you don't have proof that I am lying, so logically I do have an amazing never before seen next generation MMO with the best graphics ever.
It will be on kickstarter soon! along with profiles of my friends and family also working on the game, its a family run MMO! That makes it even better and proves I am telling the truth. I also have long time friends working on the game so you know they are honest if I've known them so long!
Just remember, you don't have proof that there is nothing to show, so just send me your cash and you will get something amazing!
You're right I can't logically say you are lying. However I don't believe you. That is the difference. You could very possibly be telling the truth so it wouldn't be logical to say you don't have a game. Yet it is still my belief you don't have one.
Are you guys seriously saying you are 100% sure Steven does not have the 30 million? Or do you believe he doesn't?
It is quite sad indeed. We have literally reached religious zealot style lines of reasoning in a discussion about MMORPGs (again).
Which goes both ways, it's like two religious sects bickering over what the real religion is.
Yes common logic must ofcourse apply to posts on both sides of the discussion. The issue was that someone made a claim, failed to prove it and told others it's their job to disprove it. That is just not how a logical discussion works. Ofcourse people called him out on it.
Nice. Keep up the insults without giving a serious response. You must be desperate. Like I said regardless. We both believe different things. Not sure why you guys care so much about something you no interest in. You spend all day here in these forums.
The same can be pointed right back to you.
You can't just admit that you liked the UE4 assets montage and watching Steven read a feature list so you are willing to play roulette.
Steven only even threw out the 30M number just to sound even remotely grounded in reality. Of course the fanboys and affiliate spammers interpret this to mean he actually has 30M.
"The project is being funded by myself currently. This is going to be a bigger game, content-wise, than Crowfall, and our budget and funding reflects that. A core viable build that includes all the features discussed about the game will take roughly $30 million to complete. The Kickstarter and any other crowdfunding we might engage in is intended to add to that budget, for additional scope on certain systems we intend to reveal throughout development."
"This project is primarily self funded, and we’re dedicated to staying true to our vision and not being compromised. The core product can be delivered with our current capital and the crowdfunding goal. Going forward, we are dedicated to keeping our vision consistent with our philosophies and adding features whenever possible."
You can pick apart his wording all you want but he reached his crowdfunding goal so that means he can deliver the core product which he budgeted to take $30 million to complete.
Guess what he never says there? Yup... he never says he has 30M. This is exactly the quote that Bree pointed out. When he says he has 30M in the company bank come back.
Kudos, very well spotted. The guy is a very good at marketing and you have to really pay attention to what he says.
“I hadn't known there were so many idiots in the world until I started using the Internet.” ― Stanisław Lem
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" ― Derek's Law
Nice. Keep up the insults without giving a serious response. You must be desperate. Like I said regardless. We both believe different things. Not sure why you guys care so much about something you no interest in. You spend all day here in these forums.
The same can be pointed right back to you.
You can't just admit that you liked the UE4 assets montage and watching Steven read a feature list so you are willing to play roulette.
Steven only even threw out the 30M number just to sound even remotely grounded in reality. Of course the fanboys and affiliate spammers interpret this to mean he actually has 30M.
When have I ever insulted you? Link please.
I am the only one here admitting that there is a chance Steven doesn't have the 30 million. I just believe him and hope he does. However you are acting like you are 100% sure he doesn't and everything he said has been a lie with no proof.
Also link me a side by side comparison of assets in the store and in the video. Steven himself said the only used some trees and a barrel. So if you prove that he didn't that would make him a liar and I may be swayed. However I doubt you can do that. Haven't seen anyone prove they stole anything yet.
"The project is being funded by myself currently. This is going to be a bigger game, content-wise, than Crowfall, and our budget and funding reflects that. A core viable build that includes all the features discussed about the game will take roughly $30 million to complete. The Kickstarter and any other crowdfunding we might engage in is intended to add to that budget, for additional scope on certain systems we intend to reveal throughout development."
"This project is primarily self funded, and we’re dedicated to staying true to our vision and not being compromised. The core product can be delivered with our current capital and the crowdfunding goal. Going forward, we are dedicated to keeping our vision consistent with our philosophies and adding features whenever possible."
You can pick apart his wording all you want but he reached his crowdfunding goal so that means he can deliver the core product which he budgeted to take $30 million to complete.
Guess what he never says there? Yup... he never says he has 30M. This is exactly the quote that Bree pointed out. When he says he has 30M in the company bank come back.
Kudos, very well spotted. The guy is a very good at marketing and you have to really pay attention to what he says.
I don't even blame that guy for people's interpretation of what he said, it was pretty apparent before Bree even pointed that out... I questioned peoples reaction on the first thread linking the interview here. While his entire answer was ambiguous as they always are in these matters, it was pretty clear that the intended budget (30mil), was at a completely different delivery point in his answer than their funding options were. He never linked those different statements together in his answer.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Stop pretending you can't tell the difference between cinematic scenes in an engine vs actual gameplay with mechanics behind it.
And no one is saying he stole assets, you can buy stuff like character engines and use them in products.
The issue is that putting a video like that together is incredibly cheap and quick. It provides no evidence that an 'internal alpha' exists as some people claim.
Its being used to make people think the game is way farther along then it actually is and a '2018' release is laughable.
Nobody is forcing them to be transparent, that's their motto. If he made a claim then he has to back it with evidence, not us that would have to disprove the nonexistence of something that has no proof of existence.
If they don't want then good. We move on. But don't ask to anyone here to just shush about it - you lose your point there.
That is so very wrong. Are you 100% sure it does not exist because I do not currently have proof? If not then you are choosing to believe it does not exist. Therefor we are both relying on belief and not fact.
You are acting like you have some logical high ground when it isn't true. You can not have proof of something and it still exist.
Because we don't have proof of how gravity works does that mean it doesn't exist?
The same applies to you though. You have no proof that he doesn't have 30 million. So right now he does have the 30 million logically. Right now it is in a state of Schrodinger's Millions. I never claimed to have proof. I just believe him.
This were our education system has failed. I can't seriously reply to this because it is beyond ridiculous.
Nice. Keep up the insults without giving a serious response. You must be desperate. Like I said regardless. We both believe different things. Not sure why you guys care so much about something you no interest in. You spend all day here in these forums.
I gave you a serious response before.
No, we don't believe different things. You have blind believe on your side, i have science and logic on my side.
There is no serious response to someone claiming we don't have proof how gravity works. There is no serious response when someone says Unicorns exist until i proof they don't.
It's clearly a failure of the educational system when someone says: You have no proof that he doesn't have 30 million. So right now he does have the 30 million logically.
I know you think that makes total sense, but trust me and the many other people that replied to you: You are wrong!
“I hadn't known there were so many idiots in the world until I started using the Internet.” ― Stanisław Lem
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" ― Derek's Law
Stop pretending you can't tell the difference between cinematic scenes in an engine vs actual gameplay with mechanics behind it.
And no one is saying he stole assets, you can buy stuff like character engines and use them in products.
The issue is that putting a video like that together is incredibly cheap and quick. It provides no evidence that an 'internal alpha' exists as some people claim but the bigger take away is that a '2018' release is laughable.
Which video are you referring to? Their streams or their KS launch trailer?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Nice. Keep up the insults without giving a serious response. You must be desperate. Like I said regardless. We both believe different things. Not sure why you guys care so much about something you no interest in. You spend all day here in these forums.
I gave you a serious response before.
No, we don't believe different things. You have blind believe on your side, i have science and logic on my side.
There is no serious response to someone claiming we don't have proof how gravity works. There is no serious response when someone says Unicorns exist until i proof they don't.
It's clearly a failure of the educational system when someone says: You have no proof that he doesn't have 30 million. So right now he does have the 30 million logically.
I know you think that makes total sense, but trust me and the many other people that replied to you: You are wrong!
LOL. You have science and logic yet no proof.
Sorry to break it to you but we don't know how gravity works. We know its effects of pulling us down to the earth. We know large celestial bodies for some reason attract smaller ones. We know Einstein's theory that it is because of a curvature in space/time. That is as far as we got. We don't know why/how these curvatures of space time exist.
I was being sarcastic when I said he does have 30 million logically only because you pointed out that he DOESN'T have it logically because I have no proof. Which is just as ridiculous of a claim as mine. There is no logic involved in your statement. Unless you are saying you are 100% positive he doesn't have the money. Which would be a stupid statement.
Which video are you referring to? Their streams or their KS launch trailer?
That was directed at Ponzi.
The videos I have seen are the KS, the one where he walks through a door and the in game class reveal (LOL). The vast majority of footage is cinematic montages. There is nothing that shows real gameplay such as pushing buttons to activate skills and seeing damage numbers or items in an inventory.
It is quite sad indeed. We have literally reached religious zealot style lines of reasoning in a discussion about MMORPGs (again).
Which goes both ways, it's like two religious sects bickering over what the real religion is.
No it is not. Unless you call science and Logic a religion.
Actually it is when you blab about the obvious need for MMOs to have robust netcode (presumably your "science") and then go on a rant about MLM and whatever other shit you can dream up about Steven without making a connection about the two.
Is there something about the Ashes future netcode that you and no one else knows at this point in time years before it's needed?
Your mini crusade is just typical forum warrior horse shit and innuendo.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
Stop pretending you can't tell the difference between cinematic scenes in an engine vs actual gameplay with mechanics behind it.
And no one is saying he stole assets, you can buy stuff like character engines and use them in products.
The issue is that putting a video like that together is incredibly cheap and quick. It provides no evidence that an 'internal alpha' exists as some people claim.
Its being used to make people think the game is way farther along then it actually is and a '2018' release is laughable.
I do know the difference. However we have seem them boot up the game live. He even had the guy jump to prove it was real. Sorry I didn't mean steal. Prove to me that he bought the assests off the marketplace. NO ONE has provided side by side proof they bought any assets. He said they use some trees and a barrel. I have yet to see concrete proof.
If someone could prove that he lied and bought more than that off the marketplace that would make Steven a liar and like I said I would be pretty suspicious at that point.
Also he never said 2018 release. He said DECEMBER 2018 for the ALPHA. He has stated release would be sometime before 2020.
Which video are you referring to? Their streams or their KS launch trailer?
That was directed at Ponzi.
The videos I have seen are the KS, the one where he walks through a door and the in game class reveal (LOL). The vast majority of footage is cinematic montages. There is nothing that shows real gameplay such as pushing buttons to activate skills and seeing damage numbers or items in an inventory.
Wouldn't the examples you have just given be pretty easy to fake?
Actually it is when you blab about the obvious need for MMOs to have robust netcode (presumably your "science") and then go on a rant about MLM and whatever other shit you can dream up about Steven without making a connection about the two.
Is there something about the Ashes future netcode that you and no one else knows at this point in time years before it's needed?
Your mini crusade is just typical forum warrior horse shit and innuendo.
And you are the typical 'holier than thou' poster who adds nothing but "I'm above it all" to threads you are barely involved in.
Since there are zero examples of KS MMOs that have successfully launched, discussing their problems and how they relate to this project is entirely relevant.
Actually it is when you blab about the obvious need for MMOs to have robust netcode (presumably your "science") and then go on a rant about MLM and whatever other shit you can dream up about Steven without making a connection about the two.
Is there something about the Ashes future netcode that you and no one else knows at this point in time years before it's needed?
Your mini crusade is just typical forum warrior horse shit and innuendo.
And you are the typical 'holier than thou' poster who adds nothing but "I'm above it all" to threads you are barely involved in.
Since there are zero examples of KS MMOs that have successfully launched, discussing their problems and how they relate to this project is entirely relevant.
Well I'm not the one going around claiming that my biased horseshit is based on science and logic lol.
Both you and the other dude are just @Slapshot1188 wannabes minus the concrete examples he uses for his critiques.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
Are you guys seriously saying you are 100% sure Steven does not have the 30 million? Or do you believe he doesn't?
I will try one last time:
Believe has nothing to do with it. Until he proves there are $30 million they do not exist. You are free to believe him or not. That does not change the fundamental fact that without proof there are no $30 million.
You said i can not prove that the $30 million do not exist. This is a logical fallacy because no one can prove the non existence of anything.
You can not prove that unicorns don't exist - therefor they do exist. (WRONG) You can not prove that the $30 Million don't exist - therefor they exist. (WRONG)
No one can blame me that i did not try.
“I hadn't known there were so many idiots in the world until I started using the Internet.” ― Stanisław Lem
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" ― Derek's Law
Are you guys seriously saying you are 100% sure Steven does not have the 30 million? Or do you believe he doesn't?
I will try one last time:
Believe has nothing to do with it. Until he proves there are $30 million they do not exist. You are free to believe him or not. That does not change the fundamental fact that without proof there are no $30 million.
Not according to Schrodinger's cat.
While he has not provided proof he has the money, you can't provide proof he doesn't. So the 30 million exists and doesn't exist.
Until you break into his bank and force a teller to open up his bank records.
anywhooo the poster below posted a quote where all he says is that he's the only investor and the game needs 30 million so no need to break into his bank.
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Are you guys seriously saying you are 100% sure Steven does not have the 30 million? Or do you believe he doesn't?
I will try one last time:
Believe has nothing to do with it. Until he proves there are $30 million they do not exist. You are free to believe him or not. That does not change the fundamental fact that without proof there are no $30 million.
You said i can not prove that the $30 million do not exist. This is a logical fallacy because no one can prove the non existence of anything.
You can not prove that unicorns don't exist - therefor they do exist. (WRONG) You can not prove that the $30 Million don't exist - therefor they exist. (WRONG)
No one can blame me that i did not try.
So even though I have $50,000 in my bank. Until I prove it to you, it doesn't exist?
I haven't proven I exist. How do you know you are talking to a real person right now.
The point is, it could exist. You are accepting the fact that it could exist by saying you are waiting for him to prove it to you. So it is contradictory to say it doesn't exist because there is no proof. Unless you are 100% sure it doesn't, IT COULD EXIST.
I get what you are saying I just think your "logic" and wording is severely flawed.
No one can blame me that I did not try. I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
Either way its possible he does have the money. Because he seems genuine and he seems like a smart guy. I believe him. That is it. It's not all that complicated.
It is quite sad indeed. We have literally reached religious zealot style lines of reasoning in a discussion about MMORPGs (again).
Which goes both ways, it's like two religious sects bickering over what the real religion is.
No it is not. Unless you call science and Logic a religion.
Actually it is when you blab about the obvious need for MMOs to have robust netcode (presumably your "science") and then go on a rant about MLM and whatever other shit you can dream up about Steven without making a connection about the two.
Is there something about the Ashes future netcode that you and no one else knows at this point in time years before it's needed?
Your mini crusade is just typical forum warrior horse shit and innuendo.
Are you one of the people claiming you can make a MMORPG for $750k (or $2 million at current Kickstarter funding)? There is enough proof out there to back me up on this.
Yes, i know that with $2 million they can not develop a MMORPG even without net-code.
I don't think you know what innuendo means. I was not being opaque at all. I made it very clear what exactly i think is technically impossible. I will ignore any further "ad hominem" from you. Let me know when you are ready for a mature discussion.
“I hadn't known there were so many idiots in the world until I started using the Internet.” ― Stanisław Lem
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" ― Derek's Law
Its the same cycle. Hey!! Look what we got. Its awesome and look what we plan to do. Idiots jump on the band wagon like the fools they are. The rest post stuff on forums and try to warn them of what they perceive as a scam.
Every time the next BIG community funded games comes out I ask myself this. What BIG game in the past has come from community funds? None. What mediocre, irrelevant or straight scam has come from community funded games. TONS! Need I say more?
Don't try to talk them out of it. Let the fools spend their money. I just laugh. Now, if I end up being wrong and ONE decent game comes from this type of thing in the future. Guess what? I will buy the game on release and have lost nothing. The end.
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You can't say I'm lying about that because you don't have proof that I am lying, so logically I do have an amazing never before seen next generation MMO with the best graphics ever.
It will be on kickstarter soon! along with profiles of my friends and family also working on the game, its a family run MMO! That makes it even better and proves I am telling the truth. I also have long time friends working on the game so you know they are honest if I've known them so long!
Just remember, you don't have proof that there is nothing to show, so just send me your cash and you will get something amazing!
My Skyrim, Fallout 4, Starbound and WoW + other game mods at MODDB:
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whether that is to save the world? or get even with someone?
The world may never know
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Are you guys seriously saying you are 100% sure Steven does not have the 30 million? Or do you believe he doesn't?
The issue was that someone made a claim, failed to prove it and told others it's their job to disprove it.
That is just not how a logical discussion works. Ofcourse people called him out on it.
You can't just admit that you liked the UE4 assets montage and watching Steven read a feature list so you are willing to play roulette.
Steven only even threw out the 30M number just to sound even remotely grounded in reality. Of course the fanboys and affiliate spammers interpret this to mean he actually has 30M.
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer,
the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" ― Derek's Law
I am the only one here admitting that there is a chance Steven doesn't have the 30 million. I just believe him and hope he does. However you are acting like you are 100% sure he doesn't and everything he said has been a lie with no proof.
Also link me a side by side comparison of assets in the store and in the video. Steven himself said the only used some trees and a barrel. So if you prove that he didn't that would make him a liar and I may be swayed. However I doubt you can do that. Haven't seen anyone prove they stole anything yet.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
And no one is saying he stole assets, you can buy stuff like character engines and use them in products.
The issue is that putting a video like that together is incredibly cheap and quick. It provides no evidence that an 'internal alpha' exists as some people claim.
Its being used to make people think the game is way farther along then it actually is and a '2018' release is laughable.
No, we don't believe different things. You have blind believe on your side, i have science and logic on my side.
There is no serious response to someone claiming we don't have proof how gravity works.
There is no serious response when someone says Unicorns exist until i proof they don't.
It's clearly a failure of the educational system when someone says: You have no proof that he doesn't have 30 million. So right now he does have the 30 million logically.
I know you think that makes total sense, but trust me and the many other people that replied to you: You are wrong!
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer,
the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" ― Derek's Law
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer,
the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" ― Derek's Law
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Sorry to break it to you but we don't know how gravity works. We know its effects of pulling us down to the earth. We know large celestial bodies for some reason attract smaller ones. We know Einstein's theory that it is because of a curvature in space/time. That is as far as we got. We don't know why/how these curvatures of space time exist.
I was being sarcastic when I said he does have 30 million logically only because you pointed out that he DOESN'T have it logically because I have no proof. Which is just as ridiculous of a claim as mine. There is no logic involved in your statement. Unless you are saying you are 100% positive he doesn't have the money. Which would be a stupid statement.
The videos I have seen are the KS, the one where he walks through a door and the in game class reveal (LOL). The vast majority of footage is cinematic montages. There is nothing that shows real gameplay such as pushing buttons to activate skills and seeing damage numbers or items in an inventory.
Is there something about the Ashes future netcode that you and no one else knows at this point in time years before it's needed?
Your mini crusade is just typical forum warrior horse shit and innuendo.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
If someone could prove that he lied and bought more than that off the marketplace that would make Steven a liar and like I said I would be pretty suspicious at that point.
Also he never said 2018 release. He said DECEMBER 2018 for the ALPHA. He has stated release would be sometime before 2020.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
Since there are zero examples of KS MMOs that have successfully launched, discussing their problems and how they relate to this project is entirely relevant.
Both you and the other dude are just @Slapshot1188 wannabes minus the concrete examples he uses for his critiques.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Believe has nothing to do with it. Until he proves there are $30 million they do not exist. You are free to believe him or not. That does not change the fundamental fact that without proof there are no $30 million.
You said i can not prove that the $30 million do not exist. This is a logical fallacy because no one can prove the non existence of anything.
You can not prove that unicorns don't exist - therefor they do exist. (WRONG)
You can not prove that the $30 Million don't exist - therefor they exist. (WRONG)
No one can blame me that i did not try.
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer,
the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" ― Derek's Law
Not according to Schrodinger's cat.
While he has not provided proof he has the money, you can't provide proof he doesn't. So the 30 million exists and doesn't exist.
Until you break into his bank and force a teller to open up his bank records.
anywhooo the poster below posted a quote where all he says is that he's the only investor and the game needs 30 million so no need to break into his bank.
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I haven't proven I exist. How do you know you are talking to a real person right now.
The point is, it could exist. You are accepting the fact that it could exist by saying you are waiting for him to prove it to you. So it is contradictory to say it doesn't exist because there is no proof. Unless you are 100% sure it doesn't, IT COULD EXIST.
I get what you are saying I just think your "logic" and wording is severely flawed.
No one can blame me that I did not try. I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
Either way its possible he does have the money. Because he seems genuine and he seems like a smart guy. I believe him. That is it. It's not all that complicated.
Yes, i know that with $2 million they can not develop a MMORPG even without net-code.
I don't think you know what innuendo means. I was not being opaque at all. I made it very clear what exactly i think is technically impossible. I will ignore any further "ad hominem" from you. Let me know when you are ready for a mature discussion.
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer,
the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" ― Derek's Law
Every time the next BIG community funded games comes out I ask myself this. What BIG game in the past has come from community funds? None. What mediocre, irrelevant or straight scam has come from community funded games. TONS! Need I say more?
Don't try to talk them out of it. Let the fools spend their money. I just laugh. Now, if I end up being wrong and ONE decent game comes from this type of thing in the future. Guess what? I will buy the game on release and have lost nothing. The end.