What treatment is that? There are people on both sides of the issue "tilting" at their cause and tons of others who don't have a horse in the race. Most people are adept at determining which ones are which and will draw their own conclusions about the issue when more information is available.
It was unnecessary to accuse anyone who is defending the game as being "paid" to do so or somehow insinuating that they are somehow being "sponsored" when it is as equally true of the converse opinion.
Everyone needs to keep it civil. Sometimes the best course of action is to agree to disagree with people and call it a day. Arguing back and forth when neither side will be convinced to change their opinion is just futile...though we appreciate the page hits.
I'll admit it's not my first go-to in a debate and I probably wouldn't have said it normally. The reason being is they have been accusing people of being "hired" or "competitors" the whole way through.
I enjoy promoting the page traffic. It's important that people form their own opinions.
I feel like a lot of people might be getting paid to defend this game, in this thread.
Oh wait, they are just getting money from affiliate referrals.
Can you guys please put "SPONSORED" in your posts each time?
The only one about here with an obvious agenda, posting and creating threads about nothing but one game is you.
You're the new guy here. So who the fuck are you and what's your agenda is a much better question than your blanket innuendo.
Going by your short little history here several questions come to my mind:
Were you previously banned here and created a new account to skirt the ban?
Are you an alt account?
Do you have a longstanding personal beef with Sharif from Archage or some other game?
Are you a competitor hiding behind your screen name trying to discredit your competition?
See how that works?
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What treatment is that? There are people on both sides of the issue "tilting" at their cause and tons of others who don't have a horse in the race. Most people are adept at determining which ones are which and will draw their own conclusions about the issue when more information is available.
It was unnecessary to accuse anyone who is defending the game as being "paid" to do so or somehow insinuating that they are somehow being "sponsored" when it is as equally true of the converse opinion.
Hey now!!!
If anyone's getting paid by these guys it's gonna be ME once they payout the Kickstarter referrals!
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I'm not saying this is a pyramid scheme but I'd like to point out most pyramid schemes are not easy to recognize at first glance. They are often times disguised as a legitimate operation.
I'm brazilian. Tell me about it. Avon, Jequiti, Herbalife, the list is almost infinite.
Last time I had problems with my internet the repair guy came and offered me to be part of a pyramid scheme.
Avon and Herbalife are not pyramid schemes. I'm unfamiliar with Jequiti.
If someone asks you if you want to be in a pyramid scheme, run in the opposite direction and maybe report them.
Most corporations and governments are pyramid-shaped. That does not make them pyramid schemes. Pyramid schemes typically will last only a matter of months, and are a form of fraud.
Avon and Herbalife are both running from our Federal Police due illegal scheme. What the hell are you talking about? Jequiti is the same thing as Avon, but the owner is SBT's Silvio Santos.
Don't lecture me on brazilian bullshit corruption. I have phd on that.
Hmm? Avon, the fifth-largest beauty corporation in the world, is illegal in Brasil? That's news to me.
Why aren't you doing something about it? It's not like lawyers are hard to find?
It's almost like suing someone is a complicated and expensive matter. Where justice isn't about what is true or wrong, but about what can be proven.
That's why class actions exist.
Also, if somebody who is a part of an "illegal" enterprise comes knocking on my door, I am letting someone in an empowered position know about it.
Unless of course it's not illegal at all, and it's just a part of this narrative I've created in order to validate my world view.
Oh shit are we back to armchair lawyering? I love that shit. First off, are you a lawyer or otherwise a licensed legal expert?
Also let me tell you all about how I would TOTALLY beat up the schoolyard bully. I've theorycrafted spreadsheets and everything.
Maybe real life is a little bit harder than that, hmm?
Unlike you, I do believe in justice. This passive-agressive, pseudo-anarchist "When Corporations Rule The World" learned-helplessness tack you are taking adds only a faint, percussive commentary to an otherwise engaging thread, and adds nothing of substance.
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I feel like a lot of people might be getting paid to defend this game, in this thread.
Oh wait, they are just getting money from affiliate referrals.
Can you guys please put "SPONSORED" in your posts each time?
And could not the same be said in reverse about those so ardently deeming the referral system a "fraud" or "illegal" or "pushing the limits of the law"? Just stop. People are entitled to defend something they feel passionate about just as much as you can (and do) regarding "whistle-blowing" about what you personally perceive as an issue with Ashes.
Don't go looking for conspiracies.
I'm not really looking for conspiracies I'm just skeptical and I can be skeptical of something, can't I?
I know you've expressed personal dislike for me before but everyone is allowed to have their own opinion. The other side has accused anyone speaking negatively as "having an agenda" or being "paid by a competitor" In the second post Intrepid staff accuses that person of being a "competitor hired shill": http://archive.is/DXQRm
I don't have an opinion of you one way or another. I disagreed with you posting numerous threads on the same, or similar, topics. I don't know you and have no issue with anyone who stays within the boundaries of the forum rules and who can post without insulting or snidely "joking" at others' expense.
They made the statement: " looked like simply expressing personal dislike ".
I do understand you have to appear to be unbiased as you are a staff member. However, I stand by the belief that you do not like me and are probably looking to ban me at the first possible opportunity.
What treatment is that? There are people on both sides of the issue "tilting" at their cause and tons of others who don't have a horse in the race. Most people are adept at determining which ones are which and will draw their own conclusions about the issue when more information is available.
It was unnecessary to accuse anyone who is defending the game as being "paid" to do so or somehow insinuating that they are somehow being "sponsored" when it is as equally true of the converse opinion.
Hey now!!!
If anyone's getting paid by these guys it's gonna be ME once they payout the Kickstarter referrals!
In all fairness while it's hard to discern if anyone is being paid to slam Ashes, threads like this one have clearly revealed who is hoping to gain from the referral system.
More often than not they happen to be arduent supporters of the game. You are one of the few who have most of your critical thinking skills largely intact when it comes to this game and some of the controversies and challenges around it.
Also I applaud you for being upfront about your motivations even if I don't agree with them.
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What treatment is that? There are people on both sides of the issue "tilting" at their cause and tons of others who don't have a horse in the race. Most people are adept at determining which ones are which and will draw their own conclusions about the issue when more information is available.
It was unnecessary to accuse anyone who is defending the game as being "paid" to do so or somehow insinuating that they are somehow being "sponsored" when it is as equally true of the converse opinion.
Hey now!!!
If anyone's getting paid by these guys it's gonna be ME once they payout the Kickstarter referrals!
In all fairness while it's hard to discern if anyone is being paid to slam Ashes, threads like this one have clearly revealed who is hoping to gain from the referral system.
More often than not they happen to be arduent supporters of the game. You are one of the few who have most of your critical thinking skills largely intact when it comes to this game and some of the controversies and challenges around it.
Also I applaud you for being upfront about your motivations even if I don't agree with them.
Hey just because you're the smartest person in a class full of retards doesn't mean that you're more intelligent than the average person. Take a look at this thread FFS. I basically served up a completely reasonable complaint about the referral program and these people are still going about pyramid schemes and conspiracy theories, lol. Fuck me! It's like a room full of Brenics.
What treatment is that? There are people on both sides of the issue "tilting" at their cause and tons of others who don't have a horse in the race. Most people are adept at determining which ones are which and will draw their own conclusions about the issue when more information is available.
It was unnecessary to accuse anyone who is defending the game as being "paid" to do so or somehow insinuating that they are somehow being "sponsored" when it is as equally true of the converse opinion.
Hey now!!!
If anyone's getting paid by these guys it's gonna be ME once they payout the Kickstarter referrals!
In all fairness while it's hard to discern if anyone is being paid to slam Ashes, threads like this one have clearly revealed who is hoping to gain from the referral system.
More often than not they happen to be arduent supporters of the game. You are one of the few who have most of your critical thinking skills largely intact when it comes to this game and some of the controversies and challenges around it.
Also I applaud you for being upfront about your motivations even if I don't agree with them.
Hey just because you're the smartest person in a class full of retards doesn't mean that you're more intelligent than the average person. Take a look at this thread FFS. I basically served up a completely reasonable complaint about the referral program and these people are still going about pyramid schemes and conspiracy theories, lol. Fuck me! It's like a room full of Brenics.
You are correct, people too focused on non issues and ignoring the real ones.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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I feel like a lot of people might be getting paid to defend this game, in this thread.
Oh wait, they are just getting money from affiliate referrals.
Can you guys please put "SPONSORED" in your posts each time?
And could not the same be said in reverse about those so ardently deeming the referral system a "fraud" or "illegal" or "pushing the limits of the law"? Just stop. People are entitled to defend something they feel passionate about just as much as you can (and do) regarding "whistle-blowing" about what you personally perceive as an issue with Ashes.
Don't go looking for conspiracies.
I'm not really looking for conspiracies I'm just skeptical and I can be skeptical of something, can't I?
I know you've expressed personal dislike for me before but everyone is allowed to have their own opinion. The other side has accused anyone speaking negatively as "having an agenda" or being "paid by a competitor" In the second post Intrepid staff accuses that person of being a "competitor hired shill": http://archive.is/DXQRm
I don't have an opinion of you one way or another. I disagreed with you posting numerous threads on the same, or similar, topics. I don't know you and have no issue with anyone who stays within the boundaries of the forum rules and who can post without insulting or snidely "joking" at others' expense.
They made the statement: " looked like simply expressing personal dislike ".
I do understand you have to appear to be unbiased as you are a staff member. However, I stand by the belief that you do not like me and are probably looking to ban me at the first possible opportunity.
Silence me if you wish.
"I'm not really looking for conspiracies I'm just skeptical"
Seven posts in to this thread you are quoting Edmund Burke. On page 4 you compare Intrepid's CEO to someone now serving a 150 year prison sentence and not-so-subtly paint the poster who dares question the validity of your position as McCathyist (oh the irony).
You are not being "skeptical": you are in full-on character assassination mode. Such a martyr.
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What treatment is that? There are people on both sides of the issue "tilting" at their cause and tons of others who don't have a horse in the race. Most people are adept at determining which ones are which and will draw their own conclusions about the issue when more information is available.
It was unnecessary to accuse anyone who is defending the game as being "paid" to do so or somehow insinuating that they are somehow being "sponsored" when it is as equally true of the converse opinion.
Hey now!!!
If anyone's getting paid by these guys it's gonna be ME once they payout the Kickstarter referrals!
In all fairness while it's hard to discern if anyone is being paid to slam Ashes, threads like this one have clearly revealed who is hoping to gain from the referral system.
More often than not they happen to be arduent supporters of the game. You are one of the few who have most of your critical thinking skills largely intact when it comes to this game and some of the controversies and challenges around it.
Also I applaud you for being upfront about your motivations even if I don't agree with them.
Hey just because you're the smartest person in a class full of retards doesn't mean that you're more intelligent than the average person. Take a look at this thread FFS. I basically served up a completely reasonable complaint about the referral program and these people are still going about pyramid schemes and conspiracy theories, lol. Fuck me! It's like a room full of Brenics.
You are correct, people too focused on non issues and ignoring the real ones.
Yup! At least we have covfefe making America great again.
I cannot believe this PC Gamer author is taking so long to update. He is gonna wait until the Kickstarter is finished and the damage is done. If Kickstarter is taking so long to respond maybe he should update the article saying there is some question on the validity of the statement or something. It is a bummer he could have hurt their pledges with possible false information.
Ever since people found out Steven worked for MLM at one point people have been going hard at him. Regardless of the facts.
I cannot believe this PC Gamer author is taking so long to update. He is gonna wait until the Kickstarter is finished and the damage is done. If Kickstarter is taking so long to respond maybe he should update the article saying there is some question on the validity of the statement or something. It is a bummer he could have hurt their pledges with possible false information.
Ever since people found out Steven worked for MLM at one point people have been going hard at him. Regardless of the facts.
Something just came to mind. Has it ever been confirmed he's completely out of the MLM industry now?
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I don't see any way to prove it. Their website is taken down and I don't see any way to buy from them. He has said he makes the majority of his money from investments and real estate though. Which makes sense. Rich get richer.
I don't see any way to prove it. Their website is taken down and I don't see any way to buy from them. He has said he makes the majority of his money from investments and real estate though. Which makes sense. Rich get richer.
I suppose as long he's not nominated for any MLM awards this year it's all good.
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I don't see any way to prove it. Their website is taken down and I don't see any way to buy from them. He has said he makes the majority of his money from investments and real estate though. Which makes sense. Rich get richer.
I suppose as long he's not nominated for any MLM awards this year it's all good.
I'm not sure how accurate this is but I found a PDF that says Steven is one of the top 400 earners. Number thirteen says he gets an estimated $350,000 a month. I doubt that just "goes away".
I don't see any way to prove it. Their website is taken down and I don't see any way to buy from them. He has said he makes the majority of his money from investments and real estate though. Which makes sense. Rich get richer.
I suppose as long he's not nominated for any MLM awards this year it's all good.
I'm not sure how accurate this is but I found a PDF that says Steven is one of the top 400 earners. Number thirteen says he gets an estimated $350,000 a month. I doubt that just "goes away".
Where the heck do you find these websites? The "About Us" section is password protected?
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I don't see any way to prove it. Their website is taken down and I don't see any way to buy from them. He has said he makes the majority of his money from investments and real estate though. Which makes sense. Rich get richer.
I suppose as long he's not nominated for any MLM awards this year it's all good.
I'm not sure how accurate this is but I found a PDF that says Steven is one of the top 400 earners. Number thirteen says he gets an estimated $350,000 a month. I doubt that just "goes away".
If I count correctly it's now 2 whole work days in USA, and still no update to the article.
This is enough time that Intrepid Studios should have had time to contact Kickstarter, and Kickstarter time to contact PC Gamer and ask for update to the article.
I think either: a) They're letting the article be because they think that any publicity is good publicity, or b) The article is not getting updated because Kickstarter doesn't think it's wrong
If I count correctly it's now 2 whole work days in USA, and still no update to the article.
This is enough time that Intrepid Studios should have had time to contact Kickstarter, and Kickstarter time to contact PC Gamer and ask for update to the article.
I think either: a) They're letting the article be because they think that any publicity is good publicity, or b) The article is not getting updated because Kickstarter doesn't think it's wrong
The PC Gamer author told us just yesterday he is still waiting for a response from Kickstarter I guess. I am assuming he isn't trying very hard.
You can find a ton of stuff about Steven from a quick search. However their website is down and anything related to his Xango is down also so I don't think he is still getting that amount anymore. No way to know for sure.
On September 20, 2006, the United States Food and Drug Administration issued a Warning Letter to Xango LLC International in response to the company's promotion of Xango Juice as an aid to treat and/or cure various diseases.[46] The agency's letter warned that Xango Juice had not been properly tested for safety and efficacy, and as a proposed new drug, it could not be legally sold in the U.S. without prior approval of the FDA. Xango was warned that it could face enforcement action including seizure and/or injunction of products or suspension of business. Under FDA drug labeling rules, Xango, as manufacturer, is responsible for satisfying scientific criteria to make health claims on its product labels and all marketing materials. As of September 2008, the case remained open.
The Mayo Clinic said in October 2005 that "there are no published clinical trials showing evidence that either the fruit or its juice – marketed under the name Xango Juice – is an effective treatment for arthritis, cancer or any other disorder in humans."[47] In 2011 the Mayo Clinic reiterated that "it is still too early to say for sure what role mangosteen juice has in treating arthritis symptoms."[41]
In February 2006, the U.C. Berkeley Wellness Newsletter, sponsored by the University of California at Berkeley, said that "Mangosteen marketers make farfetched and unsubstantiated claims for their products." The newsletter notes that "there are no clinical trials, and what happens in a test tube or animal may not occur in a human. Any reported benefits in humans have been anecdotal. No one even knows if the processed fruit juice and capsules retain the potentially beneficial compounds. What’s more, the juice is typically a mix of fruit juices – with an undisclosed amount of mangosteen in it." [48]
In my opinion, what we have here is simply an overpriced fruit drink. Fruit drinks are often healthful beverages. But the only reason I can see that the promoters of mangosteen can get away with charging $37 for this product is that they are playing on patients' hopes and fears in a cynical way. Without the health claims, open or implied, the product could only be sold for at most $5 or $6 (which, for example, is the cost of antioxidant-rich pomegranate juice).[50]
A 2008 medical case report described a patient with severe acidosis possibly attributable to a year of daily use (to lose weight, dose not described) of mangosteen juice (brand not described) infused with xanthonoids,[51] as occurs in the manufacture of XanGo juice. The authors proposed that chronic exposure to alpha-mangostin, a xanthone, could be toxic to mitochondrial function,[52] leading to impairment of cellular respiration and production of lactic acidosis.
Cool. Lots of people believe in certain remedies that aren't FDA approved. Doesn't make them bad guys. Was Steven the one to come up with the "science" behind it? Maybe he believes it works as much as any of his customers. People are gonna believe what they are gonna believe.
Regardless I bet people still believe mangsteen is some cure-all drink. They are gonna buy it from someone.
Cool. Lots of people believe in certain remedies that aren't FDA approved. Doesn't make them bad guys. Was Steven the one to come up with the "science" behind it? Maybe he believes it works as much as any of his customers. People are gonna believe what they are gonna believe.
Regardless I bet people still believe mangsteen is some cure-all drink. They are gonna buy it from someone.
Hmmm correct me if I'm wrong, but that's fraud.
I don't know. My point is Steven may have believed it worked as much as the customers did. He wasn't a founder of the company or anything.
Cool. Lots of people believe in certain remedies that aren't FDA approved. Doesn't make them bad guys. Was Steven the one to come up with the "science" behind it? Maybe he believes it works as much as any of his customers. People are gonna believe what they are gonna believe.
Regardless I bet people still believe mangsteen is some cure-all drink. They are gonna buy it from someone.
Hmmm correct me if I'm wrong, but that's fraud.
I don't know. My point is Steven may have believed it worked as much as the customers did. He wasn't a founder of the company or anything.
Do you speak on his behalf? This is getting questionable.
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I enjoy promoting the page traffic. It's important that people form their own opinions.
You're the new guy here. So who the fuck are you and what's your agenda is a much better question than your blanket innuendo.
Going by your short little history here several questions come to my mind:
See how that works?
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They made the statement: " looked like simply expressing personal dislike ".
I do understand you have to appear to be unbiased as you are a staff member. However, I stand by the belief that you do not like me and are probably looking to ban me at the first possible opportunity.
Silence me if you wish.
More often than not they happen to be arduent supporters of the game. You are one of the few who have most of your critical thinking skills largely intact when it comes to this game and some of the controversies and challenges around it.
Also I applaud you for being upfront about your motivations even if I don't agree with them.
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Seven posts in to this thread you are quoting Edmund Burke. On page 4 you compare Intrepid's CEO to someone now serving a 150 year prison sentence and not-so-subtly paint the poster who dares question the validity of your position as McCathyist (oh the irony).
You are not being "skeptical": you are in full-on character assassination mode. Such a martyr.
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Ever since people found out Steven worked for MLM at one point people have been going hard at him. Regardless of the facts.
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LOL
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http://www.letsgetyoufree.com/uploads/8/8/0/3/8803728/top_400_earners.pdf
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This is enough time that Intrepid Studios should have had time to contact Kickstarter, and Kickstarter time to contact PC Gamer and ask for update to the article.
I think either:
a) They're letting the article be because they think that any publicity is good publicity, or
b) The article is not getting updated because Kickstarter doesn't think it's wrong
You can find a ton of stuff about Steven from a quick search. However their website is down and anything related to his Xango is down also so I don't think he is still getting that amount anymore. No way to know for sure.
U.S. FDA warning[edit]
On September 20, 2006, the United States Food and Drug Administration issued a Warning Letter to Xango LLC International in response to the company's promotion of Xango Juice as an aid to treat and/or cure various diseases.[46] The agency's letter warned that Xango Juice had not been properly tested for safety and efficacy, and as a proposed new drug, it could not be legally sold in the U.S. without prior approval of the FDA. Xango was warned that it could face enforcement action including seizure and/or injunction of products or suspension of business. Under FDA drug labeling rules, Xango, as manufacturer, is responsible for satisfying scientific criteria to make health claims on its product labels and all marketing materials. As of September 2008, the case remained open.
Effectiveness[edit]
The Mayo Clinic said in October 2005 that "there are no published clinical trials showing evidence that either the fruit or its juice – marketed under the name Xango Juice – is an effective treatment for arthritis, cancer or any other disorder in humans."[47] In 2011 the Mayo Clinic reiterated that "it is still too early to say for sure what role mangosteen juice has in treating arthritis symptoms."[41]
In February 2006, the U.C. Berkeley Wellness Newsletter, sponsored by the University of California at Berkeley, said that "Mangosteen marketers make farfetched and unsubstantiated claims for their products." The newsletter notes that "there are no clinical trials, and what happens in a test tube or animal may not occur in a human. Any reported benefits in humans have been anecdotal. No one even knows if the processed fruit juice and capsules retain the potentially beneficial compounds. What’s more, the juice is typically a mix of fruit juices – with an undisclosed amount of mangosteen in it." [48]
Ralph Moss, an alternative cancer treatment advocate,[49] has said of mangosteen juice:
A 2008 medical case report described a patient with severe acidosis possibly attributable to a year of daily use (to lose weight, dose not described) of mangosteen juice (brand not described) infused with xanthonoids,[51] as occurs in the manufacture of XanGo juice. The authors proposed that chronic exposure to alpha-mangostin, a xanthone, could be toxic to mitochondrial function,[52] leading to impairment of cellular respiration and production of lactic acidosis.
Italian anti-trust action[edit]
In 2011 Italy's anti-trust and consumer protection authority, the AGCM, suspended the activities of Xango in response to over-broad health claims, as well as possible violations of pyramid scheme laws.[53]
Regardless I bet people still believe mangsteen is some cure-all drink. They are gonna buy it from someone.