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  • PresciencePrescience Member UncommonPosts: 255
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
     “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program," - David Gallagher, Kickstarter Director of Communications.

    And did the author verify that it was in fact removed?
    Your level of Snake-oil Salesman has increased.

    So... were they removed from the referral program or not? It's not a tough question.

    I think you fail to see the whole picture here or are deliberately trying to force us into thinking with one track minds.

    The point is, Steven Sharif called Steven Messner a liar when he was only reporting the information Kickstarter gave him. That information was not modified, edited, or changed and was what David Gallagher had stated.

    Kickstarter believed they removed the pledges from the program and they [Intrepid] even TOLD them they had removed them.

    The issue is not whether they were removed anymore. 

    What this is about is Intrepid's loss of integrity and whether or not we can continue to trust them.


    No. That's your spin that fits into your campaign.

    If I am reporting something as fact, I don't rely on a statement from one source. I do my due diligence and verify it independently. It's how the world of journalism works.

    You just want to continuously move the goalposts to fit your narrative.

    Oh, so you're a big bad reporter now? Where do you report your articles? I'd like to see all of these different statements from multiple sources, etc.

    Further, why would you get multiple statements from Kickstarter? Shouldn't we trust their communications director or is the company just not trustworthy in your eyes?
    Iselin
  • PresciencePrescience Member UncommonPosts: 255
    Distopia said:

    What this is about is Intrepid's loss of integrity and whether or not we can continue to trust them.


    Eh, the KS is over, it's a little late for it to be about that. 
    Crowdfunding continues.
    Distopia
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
     “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program," - David Gallagher, Kickstarter Director of Communications.

    And did the author verify that it was in fact removed?
    Your level of Snake-oil Salesman has increased.

    So... were they removed from the referral program or not? It's not a tough question.

    I think you fail to see the whole picture here or are deliberately trying to force us into thinking with one track minds.

    The point is, Steven Sharif called Steven Messner a liar when he was only reporting the information Kickstarter gave him. That information was not modified, edited, or changed and was what David Gallagher had stated.

    Kickstarter believed they removed the pledges from the program and they [Intrepid] even TOLD them they had removed them.

    The issue is not whether they were removed anymore. 

    What this is about is Intrepid's loss of integrity and whether or not we can continue to trust them.


    No. That's your spin that fits into your campaign.

    If I am reporting something as fact, I don't rely on a statement from one source. I do my due diligence and verify it independently. It's how the world of journalism works.

    You just want to continuously move the goalposts to fit your narrative.

    Oh, so you're a big bad reporter now? Where do you report your articles? I'd like to see all of these different statements from multiple sources, etc.

    Further, why would you get multiple statements from Kickstarter? Shouldn't we trust their communications director or is the company just not trustworthy in your eyes?
    When you're reporting on issues that have consequence for a bunch of paid in consumers, it's pertinent to give them the full story as it is, when there are two sides saying different things that have an effect on those consumers, the full story is both of those conflicting statements. Not just the one that supports the angle you choose.  

    You already saw those conflicting statements play out in real time here, but sure play obtuse to what he's talking about. 



    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited June 2017
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
     “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program," - David Gallagher, Kickstarter Director of Communications.

    And did the author verify that it was in fact removed?
    Your level of Snake-oil Salesman has increased.

    So... were they removed from the referral program or not? It's not a tough question.

    I think you fail to see the whole picture here or are deliberately trying to force us into thinking with one track minds.

    The point is, Steven Sharif called Steven Messner a liar when he was only reporting the information Kickstarter gave him. That information was not modified, edited, or changed and was what David Gallagher had stated.

    Kickstarter believed they removed the pledges from the program and they [Intrepid] even TOLD them they had removed them.

    The issue is not whether they were removed anymore. 

    What this is about is Intrepid's loss of integrity and whether or not we can continue to trust them.


    No. That's your spin that fits into your campaign.

    If I am reporting something as fact, I don't rely on a statement from one source. I do my due diligence and verify it independently. It's how the world of journalism works.

    You just want to continuously move the goalposts to fit your narrative.

    Oh, so you're a big bad reporter now? Where do you report your articles? I'd like to see all of these different statements from multiple sources, etc.

    Further, why would you get multiple statements from Kickstarter? Shouldn't we trust their communications director or is the company just not trustworthy in your eyes?
    No I'm not a reporter. I'm just a guy with a functional bullshit detector who reads, and follows news. In other words, not a pathetic forum troll with an agenda.

    Anyone with any common sense would know that the logical next step after being told by KS that Intrepid removed the referrals from KS donations, would be to reach out to Intrepid for comment. So why wasn't that done?

    Wasn't that removal the bit that got some people worried, including Slapshot and his 400 referrals?

    But hey, troll on with your single area of gaming interest. Maybe a new copy/paste about XanGo from Wikipedia? 
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • LackingMMOLackingMMO Member RarePosts: 664
    The thing is you should always be cautious about anything you are investing in, seems most gamers are new to this, however the one thing I see is a lot of hunting for something wrong in this, taking a look at Prescience for example. Dude has 150 comments, 6 discussions and all are about what's wrong with AoC. That's a little overboard If you ask me, I get if you don't like a game, its not you cup of yea but man relax a bit.

    I like the thought of this game, hope it releases so I can play, wont back it or any KS for that matter but I'm not going to go on a crusade to try my hardest to make something out of nothing.
    Prescience
  • PresciencePrescience Member UncommonPosts: 255
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
     “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program," - David Gallagher, Kickstarter Director of Communications.

    And did the author verify that it was in fact removed?
    Your level of Snake-oil Salesman has increased.

    So... were they removed from the referral program or not? It's not a tough question.

    I think you fail to see the whole picture here or are deliberately trying to force us into thinking with one track minds.

    The point is, Steven Sharif called Steven Messner a liar when he was only reporting the information Kickstarter gave him. That information was not modified, edited, or changed and was what David Gallagher had stated.

    Kickstarter believed they removed the pledges from the program and they [Intrepid] even TOLD them they had removed them.

    The issue is not whether they were removed anymore. 

    What this is about is Intrepid's loss of integrity and whether or not we can continue to trust them.


    No. That's your spin that fits into your campaign.

    If I am reporting something as fact, I don't rely on a statement from one source. I do my due diligence and verify it independently. It's how the world of journalism works.

    You just want to continuously move the goalposts to fit your narrative.

    Oh, so you're a big bad reporter now? Where do you report your articles? I'd like to see all of these different statements from multiple sources, etc.

    Further, why would you get multiple statements from Kickstarter? Shouldn't we trust their communications director or is the company just not trustworthy in your eyes?
    No I'm not a reporter. I'm just a guy with a functional bullshit detector who reads, and follows news. In other words, not a pathetic forum troll with an agenda.

    Anyone with any common sense would know that the logical next step after being told by KS that Intrepid removed the referrals from KS donations, would be to reach out to Intrepid for comment. So why wasn't that done?

    Wasn't that removal the bit that got some people worried, including Slapshot and his 400 referrals?

    But hey, troll on with your single area of gaming interest. Maybe a new copy/paste about XanGo from Wikipedia? 
    Oh, okay so you were trying to sound like an expert reporter to give your opinion more weight, I understand.
    IselinPonzini
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
     “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program," - David Gallagher, Kickstarter Director of Communications.

    And did the author verify that it was in fact removed?
    Your level of Snake-oil Salesman has increased.

    So... were they removed from the referral program or not? It's not a tough question.

    I think you fail to see the whole picture here or are deliberately trying to force us into thinking with one track minds.

    The point is, Steven Sharif called Steven Messner a liar when he was only reporting the information Kickstarter gave him. That information was not modified, edited, or changed and was what David Gallagher had stated.

    Kickstarter believed they removed the pledges from the program and they [Intrepid] even TOLD them they had removed them.

    The issue is not whether they were removed anymore. 

    What this is about is Intrepid's loss of integrity and whether or not we can continue to trust them.


    No. That's your spin that fits into your campaign.

    If I am reporting something as fact, I don't rely on a statement from one source. I do my due diligence and verify it independently. It's how the world of journalism works.

    You just want to continuously move the goalposts to fit your narrative.

    Oh, so you're a big bad reporter now? Where do you report your articles? I'd like to see all of these different statements from multiple sources, etc.

    Further, why would you get multiple statements from Kickstarter? Shouldn't we trust their communications director or is the company just not trustworthy in your eyes?
    I've seen you do this quite a lot, whenever someone had an opinion you asked if it was their real job and questioned their credibility. Yet you yourself shared your opinion about net coding, law, journalism, medicine and so on. 

    So... what's your job? I'd like to see some references. 
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    edited June 2017
    Distopia said:

    What this is about is Intrepid's loss of integrity and whether or not we can continue to trust them.


    Eh, the KS is over, it's a little late for it to be about that. 
    Crowdfunding continues.
    You don't see how this is going to play out?   Here's a hint....I'm sure all of those interested are going to be up in arms, that Intrepid followed through on reimbursing their band of marketeers. 

    You really think your angle here is going to have much traction going forward? Few are going to care about the he said she said of that article, they're going to care whether "promises" were kept or not. As they always were.... and will always. That's all that matters to gamers/consumers.  

    The outcome here is totally in Intrepid's favor. KS took no action, Backers and Intrepid get their KS success, the world keeps turning. 







    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    There's something strange about Ashes of Creation.

    There's something strange about every early access game.
    Phaserlight
    When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
  • PonziniPonzini Member UncommonPosts: 534
    Ponzini said:
    You should apologize and PC Gamer was completely accurate while you sat here and attacked them post after post when in fact everything on that article was accurate. You are not in a position to defend anyone any longer.

    You should be a man and apologize for what was said. The blame falls on Kickstarter and Intrepid. Intrepid did not follow the rules or the request of Kickstarter. Intrepid told Kickstarter they were complying and bought time.

    " Kickstarter’s director of communications, David Gallagher, told me in an email. “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program, making it entirely separate from the Kickstarter project, which we saw as an acceptable solution. "

    This is disgusting.
    Um, go back and read my posts. I never once said anything about the PC Gamer author lying. The only thing I did was ask Steven to come in and post what he had told me in discord. I constantly said I was curious as to what the author would say and was wondering why it was taking to long. 

    You act like someone has killed your dog bro. Not even the author seems to be upset. 

    I would like to mention though you guys immediately question Steven's words even though he posted here twice yet you take the author's words at face value. Why aren't you asking for proof from him? Pretty hypocritical. We have no sources or proof. Only his word. 

    Your go-to is to further discount what the author is saying? You don't know what you're doing do you? 
    Simply pointing out your hypocrisy, my dude. Not saying the author is right or wrong.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
     “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program," - David Gallagher, Kickstarter Director of Communications.

    And did the author verify that it was in fact removed?
    Your level of Snake-oil Salesman has increased.

    So... were they removed from the referral program or not? It's not a tough question.

    I think you fail to see the whole picture here or are deliberately trying to force us into thinking with one track minds.

    The point is, Steven Sharif called Steven Messner a liar when he was only reporting the information Kickstarter gave him. That information was not modified, edited, or changed and was what David Gallagher had stated.

    Kickstarter believed they removed the pledges from the program and they [Intrepid] even TOLD them they had removed them.

    The issue is not whether they were removed anymore. 

    What this is about is Intrepid's loss of integrity and whether or not we can continue to trust them.


    No. That's your spin that fits into your campaign.

    If I am reporting something as fact, I don't rely on a statement from one source. I do my due diligence and verify it independently. It's how the world of journalism works.

    You just want to continuously move the goalposts to fit your narrative.

    Oh, so you're a big bad reporter now? Where do you report your articles? I'd like to see all of these different statements from multiple sources, etc.

    Further, why would you get multiple statements from Kickstarter? Shouldn't we trust their communications director or is the company just not trustworthy in your eyes?
    No I'm not a reporter. I'm just a guy with a functional bullshit detector who reads, and follows news. In other words, not a pathetic forum troll with an agenda.

    Anyone with any common sense would know that the logical next step after being told by KS that Intrepid removed the referrals from KS donations, would be to reach out to Intrepid for comment. So why wasn't that done?

    Wasn't that removal the bit that got some people worried, including Slapshot and his 400 referrals?

    But hey, troll on with your single area of gaming interest. Maybe a new copy/paste about XanGo from Wikipedia? 
    Oh, okay so you were trying to sound like an expert reporter to give your opinion more weight, I understand.
    No you don't understand very much at all apparently. "Expert reporter" lol. Maybe you should try a thought exercise called "how I would do it."

    If you can't, well... it's a difficult thing for some. It requires some imagination and self awareness.
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    OhhPaigey said:
    There's something strange about Ashes of Creation.

    There's something strange about every early access game.
    There's something strange in our neighborhood, and it don't look good.. Who we gonna call?
    OhhPaigey

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • PresciencePrescience Member UncommonPosts: 255
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
     “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program," - David Gallagher, Kickstarter Director of Communications.

    And did the author verify that it was in fact removed?
    Your level of Snake-oil Salesman has increased.

    So... were they removed from the referral program or not? It's not a tough question.

    I think you fail to see the whole picture here or are deliberately trying to force us into thinking with one track minds.

    The point is, Steven Sharif called Steven Messner a liar when he was only reporting the information Kickstarter gave him. That information was not modified, edited, or changed and was what David Gallagher had stated.

    Kickstarter believed they removed the pledges from the program and they [Intrepid] even TOLD them they had removed them.

    The issue is not whether they were removed anymore. 

    What this is about is Intrepid's loss of integrity and whether or not we can continue to trust them.


    No. That's your spin that fits into your campaign.

    If I am reporting something as fact, I don't rely on a statement from one source. I do my due diligence and verify it independently. It's how the world of journalism works.

    You just want to continuously move the goalposts to fit your narrative.

    Oh, so you're a big bad reporter now? Where do you report your articles? I'd like to see all of these different statements from multiple sources, etc.

    Further, why would you get multiple statements from Kickstarter? Shouldn't we trust their communications director or is the company just not trustworthy in your eyes?
    No I'm not a reporter. I'm just a guy with a functional bullshit detector who reads, and follows news. In other words, not a pathetic forum troll with an agenda.

    Anyone with any common sense would know that the logical next step after being told by KS that Intrepid removed the referrals from KS donations, would be to reach out to Intrepid for comment. So why wasn't that done?

    Wasn't that removal the bit that got some people worried, including Slapshot and his 400 referrals?

    But hey, troll on with your single area of gaming interest. Maybe a new copy/paste about XanGo from Wikipedia? 
    Oh, okay so you were trying to sound like an expert reporter to give your opinion more weight, I understand.
    No you don't understand very much at all apparently. "Expert reporter" lol. Maybe you should try a thought exercise called "how I would do it."

    If you can't, well... it's a difficult thing for some. It requires some imagination and self awareness.
    If I am reporting something as fact, I don't rely on a statement from one source. I do my due diligence and verify it independently. It's how the world of journalism works.  - Iselin, Freelance Journalist
    Iselin
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Distopia said:
    OhhPaigey said:
    There's something strange about Ashes of Creation.

    There's something strange about every early access game.
    There's something strange in our neighborhood, and it don't look good.. Who we gonna call?
    Dr. Strangelove or Doctor Strange.
    Distopia[Deleted User]
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
     “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program," - David Gallagher, Kickstarter Director of Communications.

    And did the author verify that it was in fact removed?
    Your level of Snake-oil Salesman has increased.

    So... were they removed from the referral program or not? It's not a tough question.

    I think you fail to see the whole picture here or are deliberately trying to force us into thinking with one track minds.

    The point is, Steven Sharif called Steven Messner a liar when he was only reporting the information Kickstarter gave him. That information was not modified, edited, or changed and was what David Gallagher had stated.

    Kickstarter believed they removed the pledges from the program and they [Intrepid] even TOLD them they had removed them.

    The issue is not whether they were removed anymore. 

    What this is about is Intrepid's loss of integrity and whether or not we can continue to trust them.


    No. That's your spin that fits into your campaign.

    If I am reporting something as fact, I don't rely on a statement from one source. I do my due diligence and verify it independently. It's how the world of journalism works.

    You just want to continuously move the goalposts to fit your narrative.

    Oh, so you're a big bad reporter now? Where do you report your articles? I'd like to see all of these different statements from multiple sources, etc.

    Further, why would you get multiple statements from Kickstarter? Shouldn't we trust their communications director or is the company just not trustworthy in your eyes?
    No I'm not a reporter. I'm just a guy with a functional bullshit detector who reads, and follows news. In other words, not a pathetic forum troll with an agenda.

    Anyone with any common sense would know that the logical next step after being told by KS that Intrepid removed the referrals from KS donations, would be to reach out to Intrepid for comment. So why wasn't that done?

    Wasn't that removal the bit that got some people worried, including Slapshot and his 400 referrals?

    But hey, troll on with your single area of gaming interest. Maybe a new copy/paste about XanGo from Wikipedia? 
    Oh, okay so you were trying to sound like an expert reporter to give your opinion more weight, I understand.
    No you don't understand very much at all apparently. "Expert reporter" lol. Maybe you should try a thought exercise called "how I would do it."

    If you can't, well... it's a difficult thing for some. It requires some imagination and self awareness.
    If I am reporting something as fact, I don't rely on a statement from one source. I do my due diligence and verify it independently. It's how the world of journalism works.  - Iselin, Freelance Journalist
    If I can't stay on topic I resort to random horseshit.

    --Just another anonymous troll.
    ConstantineMerusDistopia
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • LackingMMOLackingMMO Member RarePosts: 664
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
     “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program," - David Gallagher, Kickstarter Director of Communications.

    And did the author verify that it was in fact removed?
    Your level of Snake-oil Salesman has increased.

    So... were they removed from the referral program or not? It's not a tough question.

    I think you fail to see the whole picture here or are deliberately trying to force us into thinking with one track minds.

    The point is, Steven Sharif called Steven Messner a liar when he was only reporting the information Kickstarter gave him. That information was not modified, edited, or changed and was what David Gallagher had stated.

    Kickstarter believed they removed the pledges from the program and they [Intrepid] even TOLD them they had removed them.

    The issue is not whether they were removed anymore. 

    What this is about is Intrepid's loss of integrity and whether or not we can continue to trust them.


    No. That's your spin that fits into your campaign.

    If I am reporting something as fact, I don't rely on a statement from one source. I do my due diligence and verify it independently. It's how the world of journalism works.

    You just want to continuously move the goalposts to fit your narrative.

    Oh, so you're a big bad reporter now? Where do you report your articles? I'd like to see all of these different statements from multiple sources, etc.

    Further, why would you get multiple statements from Kickstarter? Shouldn't we trust their communications director or is the company just not trustworthy in your eyes?
    No I'm not a reporter. I'm just a guy with a functional bullshit detector who reads, and follows news. In other words, not a pathetic forum troll with an agenda.

    Anyone with any common sense would know that the logical next step after being told by KS that Intrepid removed the referrals from KS donations, would be to reach out to Intrepid for comment. So why wasn't that done?

    Wasn't that removal the bit that got some people worried, including Slapshot and his 400 referrals?

    But hey, troll on with your single area of gaming interest. Maybe a new copy/paste about XanGo from Wikipedia? 
    Oh, okay so you were trying to sound like an expert reporter to give your opinion more weight, I understand.
    No you don't understand very much at all apparently. "Expert reporter" lol. Maybe you should try a thought exercise called "how I would do it."

    If you can't, well... it's a difficult thing for some. It requires some imagination and self awareness.
    If I am reporting something as fact, I don't rely on a statement from one source. I do my due diligence and verify it independently. It's how the world of journalism works.  - Iselin, Freelance Journalist
    If I can't stay on topic I resort to random horseshit.

    --Just another anonymous troll.
    Just ignore him, literally his entire post history is dedicated to bashing AoC. Probably an alt account or like someone else said, from another company.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Nyctelios said:
    So, in the end, pretty much a "Steam CS gambling" situation here?

    Some broke rules, some did wrong, but since they moved moneyz nothing matter, huh?
    That's certainly part of it.
    ConstantineMerusDistopia
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Nyctelios said:
    So, in the end, pretty much a "Steam CS gambling" situation here?

    Some broke rules, some did wrong, but since they moved moneyz nothing matter, huh?
    If you can't do the time, do a bigger crime. 
    Iselin[Deleted User]Distopia
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • PresciencePrescience Member UncommonPosts: 255
    Nyctelios said:
    So, in the end, pretty much a "Steam CS gambling" situation here?

    Some broke rules, some did wrong, but since they moved moneyz nothing matter, huh?
    Exactly, the wire transfer is completed.
  • PonziniPonzini Member UncommonPosts: 534
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Nyctelios said:
    I literally just finished watching John Wick 2 and thought "I guess I'll check mmorpg but I'm sure nothing much happened..."


    So, what happened to our pizza?
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  • PresciencePrescience Member UncommonPosts: 255
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    Yeah, I agree. I think they should have let Steven Sharif approve it first.
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program, making it entirely separate from the Kickstarter project"

    That either happened or it didn't. Someone appears to be lying. Its a big story if it's Intrepid. It's a bigger one if it's Kickstarter.
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  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    Nyctelios said:
    I literally just finished watching John Wick 2 and thought "I guess I'll check mmorpg but I'm sure nothing much happened..."


    How was it, btw?
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