I think the game is solid and their pricing model is actually fair. To sell 10 million copies is a nice achievement. I remember back in 2012 when EA was hyping SWTOR because it had sold over 2 million copies. Ark is a solid game and has only sold around 5 million copies.
1. Ark has been avaible for purchase for less time 2. Ark is an Early Access title which alone scares a lot of people off 3. Ark doesnt remotely have in the same universe level of marketing spending and stradegy as Elder Scrolls title has and YES that makes a huge difference 4. Ark doesnt have name branding like 'elder scrolls'
its more accurate to compare Ark to Flappy Birds
It is more accurate to compare MMORPG sales to other MMORPGs.
no its not.
comparing the sales of Wurm to the sales of WoW or ESO is silly. THose games easily have marketing budgets larger then the entire development of a game like Wurm.
its delisional to think the two are in the same playing field when it comes to marketing
You do go all over the map. You didn't mention WURM, you put forth several non MMORPGs as examples to downplay the ESO figures
So lets compare it to all of the indie MMORPGS which have wildly successful sales with no marketing budget.
Wait, you can't. Now if you want to compare the success of GTA (all 5 versions) to Minecraft, go for it.
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I think the game is solid and their pricing model is actually fair. To sell 10 million copies is a nice achievement. I remember back in 2012 when EA was hyping SWTOR because it had sold over 2 million copies. Ark is a solid game and has only sold around 5 million copies.
1. Ark has been avaible for purchase for less time 2. Ark is an Early Access title which alone scares a lot of people off 3. Ark doesnt remotely have in the same universe level of marketing spending and stradegy as Elder Scrolls title has and YES that makes a huge difference 4. Ark doesnt have name branding like 'elder scrolls'
its more accurate to compare Ark to Flappy Birds
It is more accurate to compare MMORPG sales to other MMORPGs.
no its not.
comparing the sales of Wurm to the sales of WoW or ESO is silly. THose games easily have marketing budgets larger then the entire development of a game like Wurm.
its delisional to think the two are in the same playing field when it comes to marketing
If it's delusional to compare Wurm to Wow when it comes to marketing, why would you compare games that are in completely different markets?
oh so we can only compare MMO to MMO and only to a specific market.
sounds like special snowflakism to me
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Ironically a colleague at work purchased this game for him and his son to play about a week ago and he is a pretty casual gamer. He comes up to me today and says wow, ESO is nothing like skyrim, they sure took a big step backwards. How do people accept this after skyrim was released? I told him its a different type of game explaining a MMO and single player experience. He said well these mmo's have a way to go. I just let it go but my point is there are many people out there just like this who don't understand the basic differences. Remember on here were are the small percentage of a much larger community.
Ironically a colleague at work purchased this game for him and his son to play about a week ago and he is a pretty casual gamer. He comes up to me today and says wow, ESO is nothing like skyrim, they sure took a big step backwards. How do people accept this after skyrim was released? I told him its a different type of game explaining a MMO and single player experience. He said well these mmo's have a way to go. I just let it go but my point is there are many people out there just like this who don't understand the basic differences. Remember on here were are the small percentage of a much larger community.
It's like WOW was 10 years ago in the sense that it's bringing many into MMOs for the first time. And not just because it's on consoles.
I think it's partly because it's Bethesda and many players have played either ES and/or Fallout games so there's some brand name recognition. It's more likely to be at least glanced at my those who don't play MMOs.
That and the fact that the original release negativity is 3 years in the past and they mostly get good press these days because it has matured pretty well.
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I think the game is solid and their pricing model is actually fair. To sell 10 million copies is a nice achievement. I remember back in 2012 when EA was hyping SWTOR because it had sold over 2 million copies. Ark is a solid game and has only sold around 5 million copies.
1. Ark has been avaible for purchase for less time 2. Ark is an Early Access title which alone scares a lot of people off 3. Ark doesnt remotely have in the same universe level of marketing spending and stradegy as Elder Scrolls title has and YES that makes a huge difference 4. Ark doesnt have name branding like 'elder scrolls'
its more accurate to compare Ark to Flappy Birds
It is more accurate to compare MMORPG sales to other MMORPGs.
no its not.
comparing the sales of Wurm to the sales of WoW or ESO is silly. THose games easily have marketing budgets larger then the entire development of a game like Wurm.
its delisional to think the two are in the same playing field when it comes to marketing
If it's delusional to compare Wurm to Wow when it comes to marketing, why would you compare games that are in completely different markets?
oh so we can only compare MMO to MMO and only to a specific market.
sounds like special snowflakism to me
OK, so in your bout with deductive reasoning, you compare a mobile game, a survival game and an MMORPG in order to quantify marketing - without ever considering that they're completely different markets?
Carry on then.
I would try to explain how its reasonable and extreemly common place when talking about sales in games to not restrict the conversation to sub-types within those games but dont think these forums can understand despite how common place it is both proffesionally and unproffesionally.
now in the meantime I am going to look at some top 10 game sells charts and see how many ways you would suggest those lists need to be parased
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
I think the game is solid and their pricing model is actually fair. To sell 10 million copies is a nice achievement. I remember back in 2012 when EA was hyping SWTOR because it had sold over 2 million copies. Ark is a solid game and has only sold around 5 million copies.
1. Ark has been avaible for purchase for less time 2. Ark is an Early Access title which alone scares a lot of people off 3. Ark doesnt remotely have in the same universe level of marketing spending and stradegy as Elder Scrolls title has and YES that makes a huge difference 4. Ark doesnt have name branding like 'elder scrolls'
its more accurate to compare Ark to Flappy Birds
It is more accurate to compare MMORPG sales to other MMORPGs.
no its not.
comparing the sales of Wurm to the sales of WoW or ESO is silly. THose games easily have marketing budgets larger then the entire development of a game like Wurm.
its delisional to think the two are in the same playing field when it comes to marketing
If it's delusional to compare Wurm to Wow when it comes to marketing, why would you compare games that are in completely different markets?
oh so we can only compare MMO to MMO and only to a specific market.
sounds like special snowflakism to me
OK, so in your bout with deductive reasoning, you compare a mobile game, a survival game and an MMORPG in order to quantify marketing - without ever considering that they're completely different markets?
Carry on then.
I would try to explain how its reasonable and extreemly common place when talking about sales in games to not restrict the conversation to sub-types within those games but dont think these forums can understand despite how common place it is both proffesionally and unproffesionally.
now in the meantime I am going to look at some top 10 game sells charts and see how many ways you would suggest those lists need to be parased
You are correct on one point for sure, there is nothing professional about this conversation.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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I think the game is solid and their pricing model is actually fair. To sell 10 million copies is a nice achievement. I remember back in 2012 when EA was hyping SWTOR because it had sold over 2 million copies. Ark is a solid game and has only sold around 5 million copies.
1. Ark has been avaible for purchase for less time 2. Ark is an Early Access title which alone scares a lot of people off 3. Ark doesnt remotely have in the same universe level of marketing spending and stradegy as Elder Scrolls title has and YES that makes a huge difference 4. Ark doesnt have name branding like 'elder scrolls'
its more accurate to compare Ark to Flappy Birds
It is more accurate to compare MMORPG sales to other MMORPGs.
no its not.
comparing the sales of Wurm to the sales of WoW or ESO is silly. THose games easily have marketing budgets larger then the entire development of a game like Wurm.
its delisional to think the two are in the same playing field when it comes to marketing
If it's delusional to compare Wurm to Wow when it comes to marketing, why would you compare games that are in completely different markets?
oh so we can only compare MMO to MMO and only to a specific market.
sounds like special snowflakism to me
OK, so in your bout with deductive reasoning, you compare a mobile game, a survival game and an MMORPG in order to quantify marketing - without ever considering that they're completely different markets?
Carry on then.
I would try to explain how its reasonable and extreemly common place when talking about sales in games to not restrict the conversation to sub-types within those games but dont think these forums can understand despite how common place it is both proffesionally and unproffesionally.
now in the meantime I am going to look at some top 10 game sells charts and see how many ways you would suggest those lists need to be parased
I know, you must be tired of dealing with simple folk.
I'm not saying you can't paint a picture with the color you're using. I'm saying that your "delusional" comment about what @Kyleran suggested was in the window of a Ford Taurus adjacent to left field. If you truly believe that you can't compare Wurm to Wow when it comes to marketing, then surely you must concede that comparing completely different markets is just as faulty.
I assume you would have a strong argument, if every single person who played a mobile game or survival game were also interested in MMOs. If the MMO market wasn't as saturated as it is with what feels like more games than there are people willing to play them, then I wouldn't have a problem with your reasoning.
There was reasoning in his replies? Lol, color me surprised. I try to imagine him as a pretentious teenager. That way I can at least understand why he acts the way he does.
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Isn't ESO existence itself a result of BethesdaGS fighting against Bethesda and Zenimax against the latter making a FOmmo?
Mhhhh.... that's not what happened.
Zenimax Media owns Zenimax Online, Bethesda Game Studios, Bethesda SoftWorks and ID Software. The legal battle you mention was between Zenimax (Bethesda Softworks) and Interplay who was the original owner of the Fallout IP. Basically Interplay sold the rights to Bethesda but retained the MMO rights with the condition that they would make a MMO within 2 years or else they would lose the license.
Interplay failed to produce a MMO within this time frame, being able to show only a tech demo. Bethesda argued that the tech demo wasn't enough to justify an extension of the license beyond the 2 years initially agreed and sued Interplay who lost the case and the IP.
My question is, are they counting PC-to-console account transfer as a new purchase as well? If those of us are not included then good job on selling 10 million copies.
There were never any "transfers" as such. There were just account copies made for those who qualified ata certain point in time. If you did that, then you have a PC copy and a console copy and you can play either or both so yeah, you would count as 2 units bought.
The account copy was $20 bucks, that was like paying for a server transfer on other mmos and those IMO shouldn't count as copies sold since thats just an account service.
I just find it weird. They would count me as 2 buyers when i just bought and play one copy of the game and paid to "transfer/copy" my account to another platform without buying the game again.
But the game is successful and that's what matters.
Wow! 2 people talking each other about who theory is better and presents them as 100% real, yet ... none knows exactly if any are right, lol.
If any of you could point out any links that you count as 2 accounts , then do so. Else just shut up and stop debating conspiracy theories.
About ESO .. I had my doubts that it will succeed in the long run, yet .. here we are . ESO seems one of the few remaining MMO's with a very active playerbase and with good updates . Keep it up!
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
My question is, are they counting PC-to-console account transfer as a new purchase as well? If those of us are not included then good job on selling 10 million copies.
There were never any "transfers" as such. There were just account copies made for those who qualified ata certain point in time. If you did that, then you have a PC copy and a console copy and you can play either or both so yeah, you would count as 2 units bought.
The account copy was $20 bucks, that was like paying for a server transfer on other mmos and those IMO shouldn't count as copies sold since thats just an account service.
I just find it weird. They would count me as 2 buyers when i just bought and play one copy of the game and paid to "transfer/copy" my account to another platform without buying the game again.
But the game is successful and that's what matters.
Wow! 2 people talking each other about who theory is better and presents them as 100% real, yet ... none knows exactly if any are right, lol.
If any of you could point out any links that you count as 2 accounts , then do so. Else just shut up and stop debating conspiracy theories.
About ESO .. I had my doubts that it will succeed in the long run, yet .. here we are . ESO seems one of the few remaining MMO's with a very active playerbase and with good updates . Keep it up!
There's no "theory" to this. It's just some of us know WTF we're talking about and others don't:
For a limited time, Elder Scrolls Online is offering a deal to allow PC players to copy (not move) their accounts to the upcoming Xbox One or PlayStation 4 version of the game for $20.
Emails have gone out to qualifying gamers notifying them of the one-time offer, which can be found on the ESO account store page and will continue until May 9th. After that, ZeniMax says that PC players will be unable to move their characters over.
To qualify for the offer, you had to have purchased and activated the game by June 30, 2014. You can choose to copy your characters to one or both console versions, but be aware that certain things like crowns and friends lists won’t make the jump. Once the transfer is purchased, the studio will send out an email with a code and more instructions. The console editions of Elder Scrolls Online will release on June 9th.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
My question is, are they counting PC-to-console account transfer as a new purchase as well? If those of us are not included then good job on selling 10 million copies.
There were never any "transfers" as such. There were just account copies made for those who qualified ata certain point in time. If you did that, then you have a PC copy and a console copy and you can play either or both so yeah, you would count as 2 units bought.
The account copy was $20 bucks, that was like paying for a server transfer on other mmos and those IMO shouldn't count as copies sold since thats just an account service.
I just find it weird. They would count me as 2 buyers when i just bought and play one copy of the game and paid to "transfer/copy" my account to another platform without buying the game again.
But the game is successful and that's what matters.
Wow! 2 people talking each other about who theory is better and presents them as 100% real, yet ... none knows exactly if any are right, lol.
If any of you could point out any links that you count as 2 accounts , then do so. Else just shut up and stop debating conspiracy theories.
About ESO .. I had my doubts that it will succeed in the long run, yet .. here we are . ESO seems one of the few remaining MMO's with a very active playerbase and with good updates . Keep it up!
There's no "theory" to this. It's just some of us know WTF we're talking about and others don't:
For a limited time, Elder Scrolls Online is offering a deal to allow PC players to copy (not move) their accounts to the upcoming Xbox One or PlayStation 4 version of the game for $20.
Emails have gone out to qualifying gamers notifying them of the one-time offer, which can be found on the ESO account store page and will continue until May 9th. After that, ZeniMax says that PC players will be unable to move their characters over.
To qualify for the offer, you had to have purchased and activated the game by June 30, 2014. You can choose to copy your characters to one or both console versions, but be aware that certain things like crowns and friends lists won’t make the jump. Once the transfer is purchased, the studio will send out an email with a code and more instructions. The console editions of Elder Scrolls Online will release on June 9th.
Wtf ? And where the heck it is writen that you are counted as 2 account out of 10 millions ,instead of one if you have done the ..transfer ?!
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
My question is, are they counting PC-to-console account transfer as a new purchase as well? If those of us are not included then good job on selling 10 million copies.
There were never any "transfers" as such. There were just account copies made for those who qualified ata certain point in time. If you did that, then you have a PC copy and a console copy and you can play either or both so yeah, you would count as 2 units bought.
The account copy was $20 bucks, that was like paying for a server transfer on other mmos and those IMO shouldn't count as copies sold since thats just an account service.
I just find it weird. They would count me as 2 buyers when i just bought and play one copy of the game and paid to "transfer/copy" my account to another platform without buying the game again.
But the game is successful and that's what matters.
Wow! 2 people talking each other about who theory is better and presents them as 100% real, yet ... none knows exactly if any are right, lol.
If any of you could point out any links that you count as 2 accounts , then do so. Else just shut up and stop debating conspiracy theories.
About ESO .. I had my doubts that it will succeed in the long run, yet .. here we are . ESO seems one of the few remaining MMO's with a very active playerbase and with good updates . Keep it up!
There's no "theory" to this. It's just some of us know WTF we're talking about and others don't:
For a limited time, Elder Scrolls Online is offering a deal to allow PC players to copy (not move) their accounts to the upcoming Xbox One or PlayStation 4 version of the game for $20.
Emails have gone out to qualifying gamers notifying them of the one-time offer, which can be found on the ESO account store page and will continue until May 9th. After that, ZeniMax says that PC players will be unable to move their characters over.
To qualify for the offer, you had to have purchased and activated the game by June 30, 2014. You can choose to copy your characters to one or both console versions, but be aware that certain things like crowns and friends lists won’t make the jump. Once the transfer is purchased, the studio will send out an email with a code and more instructions. The console editions of Elder Scrolls Online will release on June 9th.
Wtf ? And where the heck it is writen that you are counted as 2 account out of 10 millions ,instead of one if you have done the ..transfer ?!
Do your own research if you're interested.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
My question is, are they counting PC-to-console account transfer as a new purchase as well? If those of us are not included then good job on selling 10 million copies.
There were never any "transfers" as such. There were just account copies made for those who qualified ata certain point in time. If you did that, then you have a PC copy and a console copy and you can play either or both so yeah, you would count as 2 units bought.
The account copy was $20 bucks, that was like paying for a server transfer on other mmos and those IMO shouldn't count as copies sold since thats just an account service.
I just find it weird. They would count me as 2 buyers when i just bought and play one copy of the game and paid to "transfer/copy" my account to another platform without buying the game again.
But the game is successful and that's what matters.
Wow! 2 people talking each other about who theory is better and presents them as 100% real, yet ... none knows exactly if any are right, lol.
If any of you could point out any links that you count as 2 accounts , then do so. Else just shut up and stop debating conspiracy theories.
About ESO .. I had my doubts that it will succeed in the long run, yet .. here we are . ESO seems one of the few remaining MMO's with a very active playerbase and with good updates . Keep it up!
There's no "theory" to this. It's just some of us know WTF we're talking about and others don't:
For a limited time, Elder Scrolls Online is offering a deal to allow PC players to copy (not move) their accounts to the upcoming Xbox One or PlayStation 4 version of the game for $20.
Emails have gone out to qualifying gamers notifying them of the one-time offer, which can be found on the ESO account store page and will continue until May 9th. After that, ZeniMax says that PC players will be unable to move their characters over.
To qualify for the offer, you had to have purchased and activated the game by June 30, 2014. You can choose to copy your characters to one or both console versions, but be aware that certain things like crowns and friends lists won’t make the jump. Once the transfer is purchased, the studio will send out an email with a code and more instructions. The console editions of Elder Scrolls Online will release on June 9th.
Wtf ? And where the heck it is writen that you are counted as 2 account out of 10 millions ,instead of one if you have done the ..transfer ?!
Where is written the opposite?
Apparently those of us who have bought 3 copies of the game and have 3 accounts (2 on the PC + a PS4 account) don't know WTF we're talking about. But random casual thread tourist does.
And as I already said above, it's not something that enough of us have done to detract from the 10 million units sold.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
Apparently those of us who have bought 3 copies of the game and have 3 accounts (2 on the PC + a PS4 account) don't know WTF we're talking about. But random casual thread tourist does.
And as I already said above, it's not something that enough of us have done to detract from the 10 million units sold.
I don't really care how many accounts you bought ( of course you will be counted as 3 if you buy 3 copies !!! ) . What I care is that you are trying to say that 1 PC account , after you will transfer it to PS4 , will count as 2 accounts . Link me where it says exactly what you are trying to say , and we are all good.
And no , don't "google it" . You come up with this idea, you back it up!
My question is, are they counting PC-to-console account transfer as a new purchase as well? If those of us are not included then good job on selling 10 million copies.
There were never any "transfers" as such. There were just account copies made for those who qualified ata certain point in time. If you did that, then you have a PC copy and a console copy and you can play either or both so yeah, you would count as 2 units bought.
The account copy was $20 bucks, that was like paying for a server transfer on other mmos and those IMO shouldn't count as copies sold since thats just an account service.
I just find it weird. They would count me as 2 buyers when i just bought and play one copy of the game and paid to "transfer/copy" my account to another platform without buying the game again.
But the game is successful and that's what matters.
Wow! 2 people talking each other about who theory is better and presents them as 100% real, yet ... none knows exactly if any are right, lol.
If any of you could point out any links that you count as 2 accounts , then do so. Else just shut up and stop debating conspiracy theories.
About ESO .. I had my doubts that it will succeed in the long run, yet .. here we are . ESO seems one of the few remaining MMO's with a very active playerbase and with good updates . Keep it up!
There's no "theory" to this. It's just some of us know WTF we're talking about and others don't:
For a limited time, Elder Scrolls Online is offering a deal to allow PC players to copy (not move) their accounts to the upcoming Xbox One or PlayStation 4 version of the game for $20.
Emails have gone out to qualifying gamers notifying them of the one-time offer, which can be found on the ESO account store page and will continue until May 9th. After that, ZeniMax says that PC players will be unable to move their characters over.
To qualify for the offer, you had to have purchased and activated the game by June 30, 2014. You can choose to copy your characters to one or both console versions, but be aware that certain things like crowns and friends lists won’t make the jump. Once the transfer is purchased, the studio will send out an email with a code and more instructions. The console editions of Elder Scrolls Online will release on June 9th.
Wtf ? And where the heck it is writen that you are counted as 2 account out of 10 millions ,instead of one if you have done the ..transfer ?!
Where is written the opposite?
Where is written the opposite of what I said ?!
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
My question is, are they counting PC-to-console account transfer as a new purchase as well? If those of us are not included then good job on selling 10 million copies.
There were never any "transfers" as such. There were just account copies made for those who qualified ata certain point in time. If you did that, then you have a PC copy and a console copy and you can play either or both so yeah, you would count as 2 units bought.
The account copy was $20 bucks, that was like paying for a server transfer on other mmos and those IMO shouldn't count as copies sold since thats just an account service.
I just find it weird. They would count me as 2 buyers when i just bought and play one copy of the game and paid to "transfer/copy" my account to another platform without buying the game again.
But the game is successful and that's what matters.
Wow! 2 people talking each other about who theory is better and presents them as 100% real, yet ... none knows exactly if any are right, lol.
If any of you could point out any links that you count as 2 accounts , then do so. Else just shut up and stop debating conspiracy theories.
About ESO .. I had my doubts that it will succeed in the long run, yet .. here we are . ESO seems one of the few remaining MMO's with a very active playerbase and with good updates . Keep it up!
There's no "theory" to this. It's just some of us know WTF we're talking about and others don't:
For a limited time, Elder Scrolls Online is offering a deal to allow PC players to copy (not move) their accounts to the upcoming Xbox One or PlayStation 4 version of the game for $20.
Emails have gone out to qualifying gamers notifying them of the one-time offer, which can be found on the ESO account store page and will continue until May 9th. After that, ZeniMax says that PC players will be unable to move their characters over.
To qualify for the offer, you had to have purchased and activated the game by June 30, 2014. You can choose to copy your characters to one or both console versions, but be aware that certain things like crowns and friends lists won’t make the jump. Once the transfer is purchased, the studio will send out an email with a code and more instructions. The console editions of Elder Scrolls Online will release on June 9th.
Wtf ? And where the heck it is writen that you are counted as 2 account out of 10 millions ,instead of one if you have done the ..transfer ?!
Where is written the opposite?
Apparently those of us who have bought 3 copies of the game and have 3 accounts (2 on the PC + a PS4 account) don't know WTF we're talking about. But random casual thread tourist does.
And as I already said above, it's not something that enough of us have done to detract from the 10 million units sold.
I want to believe he's just being naive.
Naive and asking questions is one thing and I'm usually glad to answer their questions politely.
But when they say:
"Wow! 2 people talking each other about who theory is better and presents them as 100% real, yet ... none knows exactly if any are right, lol."
That's just someone trying to ridicule the sidebar discussion @rojoArcueid and I were having based on sheer ignorance.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
Apparently those of us who have bought 3 copies of the game and have 3 accounts (2 on the PC + a PS4 account) don't know WTF we're talking about. But random casual thread tourist does.
And as I already said above, it's not something that enough of us have done to detract from the 10 million units sold.
I don't really care how many accounts you bought ( of course you will be counted as 3 if you buy 3 copies !!! ) . What I care is that you are trying to say that 1 PC account , after you will transfer it to PS4 , will count as 2 accounts . Link me where it says exactly what you are trying to say , and we are all good.
And no , don't "google it" . You come up with this idea, you back it up!
My question is, are they counting PC-to-console account transfer as a new purchase as well? If those of us are not included then good job on selling 10 million copies.
There were never any "transfers" as such. There were just account copies made for those who qualified ata certain point in time. If you did that, then you have a PC copy and a console copy and you can play either or both so yeah, you would count as 2 units bought.
The account copy was $20 bucks, that was like paying for a server transfer on other mmos and those IMO shouldn't count as copies sold since thats just an account service.
I just find it weird. They would count me as 2 buyers when i just bought and play one copy of the game and paid to "transfer/copy" my account to another platform without buying the game again.
But the game is successful and that's what matters.
Wow! 2 people talking each other about who theory is better and presents them as 100% real, yet ... none knows exactly if any are right, lol.
If any of you could point out any links that you count as 2 accounts , then do so. Else just shut up and stop debating conspiracy theories.
About ESO .. I had my doubts that it will succeed in the long run, yet .. here we are . ESO seems one of the few remaining MMO's with a very active playerbase and with good updates . Keep it up!
There's no "theory" to this. It's just some of us know WTF we're talking about and others don't:
For a limited time, Elder Scrolls Online is offering a deal to allow PC players to copy (not move) their accounts to the upcoming Xbox One or PlayStation 4 version of the game for $20.
Emails have gone out to qualifying gamers notifying them of the one-time offer, which can be found on the ESO account store page and will continue until May 9th. After that, ZeniMax says that PC players will be unable to move their characters over.
To qualify for the offer, you had to have purchased and activated the game by June 30, 2014. You can choose to copy your characters to one or both console versions, but be aware that certain things like crowns and friends lists won’t make the jump. Once the transfer is purchased, the studio will send out an email with a code and more instructions. The console editions of Elder Scrolls Online will release on June 9th.
Wtf ? And where the heck it is writen that you are counted as 2 account out of 10 millions ,instead of one if you have done the ..transfer ?!
Where is written the opposite?
Where is written the opposite of what I said ?!
First: No need to go edgy. Second: You'll take their word and that's it?
They can release something about it, but that is their word and nothing else.
And seriously do you really expect the company would be transparent and tell "We used numbers from multiple purchases from different platforms due copies in promotions owned by the same player to inflate it and make it sounds better to appeal the masses"?
So, of course if there is any statement about it then it would be saying the opposite - but, again, you would just nod and swallow their numbers?
That's all it takes to you?
You are sure naive.
Thanks for proving that you are actually discussing conspiracy theories.
Sure, we can't really take all of what they are saying as being 100% true, but trust me, I will also not take your theory into consideration simply because you are just assuming , with no real evidences.
So yeah! My point stands. You 2 were talking theories and acting like it's the .."truth" . Otherwise, if you want to prove your point, do it with real evidences and not just some "random" texts and then throw it like it's true.
Naive and asking questions is one thing and I'm usually glad to answer their questions politely.
But when they say:
"Wow! 2 people talking each other about who theory is better and presents them as 100% real, yet ... none knows exactly if any are right, lol."
That's just someone trying to ridicule the sidebar discussion @rojoArcueid and I were having based on sheer ignorance.
Naive or not , just .. bring the proof's , please? Else, just .. keep come up with theories !
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
Naive or not , just .. bring the proof's , please? Else, just .. keep come up with theories !
What theory exactly would that be? I honestly don't even know WTF you're on about.
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So lets compare it to all of the indie MMORPGS which have wildly successful sales with no marketing budget.
Wait, you can't. Now if you want to compare the success of GTA (all 5 versions) to Minecraft, go for it.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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sounds like special snowflakism to me
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I think it's partly because it's Bethesda and many players have played either ES and/or Fallout games so there's some brand name recognition. It's more likely to be at least glanced at my those who don't play MMOs.
That and the fact that the original release negativity is 3 years in the past and they mostly get good press these days because it has matured pretty well.
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now in the meantime I am going to look at some top 10 game sells charts and see how many ways you would suggest those lists need to be parased
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
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Great metric? Think not.
The game's f2p model earns vastly higher amounts through the cash shop. F'ing mounts cost more than the game sells for.
You stay sassy!
I don't even have a Steam copy.
http://steamcharts.com/app/306130#All
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Zenimax Media owns Zenimax Online, Bethesda Game Studios, Bethesda SoftWorks and ID Software.
The legal battle you mention was between Zenimax (Bethesda Softworks) and Interplay who was the original owner of the Fallout IP.
Basically Interplay sold the rights to Bethesda but retained the MMO rights with the condition that they would make a MMO within 2 years or else they would lose the license.
Interplay failed to produce a MMO within this time frame, being able to show only a tech demo.
Bethesda argued that the tech demo wasn't enough to justify an extension of the license beyond the 2 years initially agreed and sued Interplay who lost the case and the IP.
If any of you could point out any links that you count as 2 accounts , then do so. Else just shut up and stop debating conspiracy theories.
About ESO .. I had my doubts that it will succeed in the long run, yet .. here we are . ESO seems one of the few remaining MMO's with a very active playerbase and with good updates . Keep it up!
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
http://massivelyop.com/2015/04/09/elder-scrolls-online-sends-out-console-transfer-offer-for-older-accounts/
For a limited time, Elder Scrolls Online is offering a deal to allow PC players to copy (not move) their accounts to the upcoming Xbox One or PlayStation 4 version of the game for $20.
Emails have gone out to qualifying gamers notifying them of the one-time offer, which can be found on the ESO account store page and will continue until May 9th. After that, ZeniMax says that PC players will be unable to move their characters over.
To qualify for the offer, you had to have purchased and activated the game by June 30, 2014. You can choose to copy your characters to one or both console versions, but be aware that certain things like crowns and friends lists won’t make the jump. Once the transfer is purchased, the studio will send out an email with a code and more instructions. The console editions of Elder Scrolls Online will release on June 9th.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
And as I already said above, it's not something that enough of us have done to detract from the 10 million units sold.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
And no , don't "google it" . You come up with this idea, you back it up!
Where is written the opposite of what I said ?!
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
But when they say:
"Wow! 2 people talking each other about who theory is better and presents them as 100% real, yet ... none knows exactly if any are right, lol."
That's just someone trying to ridicule the sidebar discussion @rojoArcueid and I were having based on sheer ignorance.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Sure, we can't really take all of what they are saying as being 100% true, but trust me, I will also not take your theory into consideration simply because you are just assuming , with no real evidences.
So yeah! My point stands. You 2 were talking theories and acting like it's the .."truth" . Otherwise, if you want to prove your point, do it with real evidences and not just some "random" texts and then throw it like it's true.
Naive or not , just .. bring the proof's , please? Else, just .. keep come up with theories !
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED