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2 Builds ordering tomorrow.

OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
edited July 2017 in Hardware
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vypxM8

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3RBfBP

Im a hardcore gamer and occassional streamer.

Ideas?

Edit: Final build idea. About to order everything tonight. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ftgs4C
When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
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  • ubermutubermut Member UncommonPosts: 275
    I have/love that case.  
  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    Well I ordered two of these first one comes tomorrow next one in a few days after...

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116827&cm_re=ips_monitor-_-24-116-827-_-Product

    OhhPaigey
  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,413
    edited July 2017
    Sometimes I forget CAD has less buying power. That looks about right for those components. There are a few things I would change on the build. Remove the optical drive. I haven't installed one since 2008. The PSU. You are way over what you need and will be paying a bit more for it. On the AMD build, you want different memory. Not sure which is best now since the last bios update. You also probably don't need the AIO cooler since the wraith cooler does a decent job.
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  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    If you plan on re-using the SSD + HDD from the last computer,  you have them both duplicated here.

    Also - buy Windows 10 on USB drive, then you don't need optical drive. Not a huge $$$ saver, but saves some hassle trying to install it.
    OhhPaigey
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,973
    edited July 2017
    You might want to think about a graphic card with more effective cooling. NVidia's reference cooler design used on your card isn't bad, but most of the other designs are quieter and more effective.

    There's a nice table about GTX 1080 TI noise levels at the end of this page. Your current chosen card would have same noise levels as NVidia Founder's edition
      http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1080_ti_lightning_z_review,11.html
    OhhPaigey
     
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    It looks like you've decided on most of your build and are just looking at Intel or AMD on the CPU.  You could reasonably go either way.

    As Cleffy mentions, Ryzen is finicky about memory support.  Picking random DDR4 memory will work, but not necessarily at the clock speeds you want.
    OhhPaigey
  • nlipicanlipica Member UncommonPosts: 7
    That gpu will be noisy, I would pick one with 2-3 bigger fans.
    I think i saw your thread the other day about your pc.. don't throw it in the trash send it to me, so I can try to fix it and have a decent pc finally xd
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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    @OhhPaigey

    What video resolution are you planning to run?

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  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    laserit said:
    @OhhPaigey

    What video resolution are you planning to run?
    To start 1080p ill have to upgrade my monitors next.
    When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    edited July 2017
    Quizzical said:
    It looks like you've decided on most of your build and are just looking at Intel or AMD on the CPU.  You could reasonably go either way.

    As Cleffy mentions, Ryzen is finicky about memory support.  Picking random DDR4 memory will work, but not necessarily at the clock speeds you want.
    Yeah i am looking at the i7 build more so. I may keep my 970 and wait before upgrading it.

    Unless you have a suggestions.
    When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    Posted my final build idea
    When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    Renoaku said:
    Well I ordered two of these first one comes tomorrow next one in a few days after...

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116827&cm_re=ips_monitor-_-24-116-827-_-Product

    Jealous lol
    When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    OhhPaigey said:
    https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vypxM8

    https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3RBfBP

    Im a hardcore gamer and occassional streamer.

    Ideas?

    Edit: Final build idea. About to order everything tonight. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/66ZxJV
    Um personally I would have went with the "ASUS ROG" motherboard.

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132855

    I love the fan controller on this specific board it allows the fans to automatically stay in sync with each-other, and keeps the computer virtually dust free compared to my old build that would pull in all this dust because fans would always run at full RPM this only increases as the pc heats up to set levels.

    Also the memory is pretty awful,  its using DDR4-3000 memory, and only two sticks instead I would go with something with faster memory bandwidth but this is just me.

    https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232297&cm_re=DDR4-3600_ripjaws-_-20-232-297-_-Product 32 Gigs for $459.99 

    https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231907&cm_re=DDR4-3600_ripjaws-_-20-231-907-_-Product  16 Gigs for $259.99

    There is also a huge difference between WD Blue, and WD Black, from personal experience I have used a WD Black Hard-Drive for over 10 years without it failing or getting bad sectors, plus its a faster RPM, although then you do got to factor in platter density so it depends what your doing with the computer exactly both could be just as good but I prefer the black.

    The case isn't bad its actually pretty good although I am a fan of Corsair, and the OBsidian D series, as well as the power supply personally I would go with a 1000+ with modular and proper rails / voltage for the build.

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139140  There are many to choose from including those with pretty blue lights.

    Although depending on your budget it is possible to get certain things cheaper, but personally for sure I would have went with faster ram, because that 600 Mhz in some of the games I play made a big difference in FPS running at a standard 3000 mhz got me 40 FPS in some games while running at 3600 got me 70 + FPS, im talking CPU intensive processes and games.

    Although this might work okay for what your building it for I just usually choose to go for the higher end parts, and build something that will actually last for years I used my old computer 8 years before I changed anything.

    Also with that SSD, only put your programs you actively use on it and OS, fix everything including cached data, games, and personal files over to the WD Blue, so move the default users folder on windows 10 to prevent writes.



    GdemamiOhhPaigey
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    OhhPaigey said:
    Quizzical said:
    It looks like you've decided on most of your build and are just looking at Intel or AMD on the CPU.  You could reasonably go either way.

    As Cleffy mentions, Ryzen is finicky about memory support.  Picking random DDR4 memory will work, but not necessarily at the clock speeds you want.
    Yeah i am looking at the i7 build more so. I may keep my 970 and wait before upgrading it.

    Unless you have a suggestions.
    Sounds like a good plan

    Supply seems to suck right now and that makes prices high. Our dollar is also on the upswing as well and you won't see the benefit of that until suppliers purchase new stock.

    I'd suggest waiting until your ready for your new monitors, then buy both.


    OhhPaigey

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  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    Ya im set on not buying a gpu and using my 970. 
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  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    Renoaku said:
    OhhPaigey said:
    https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vypxM8

    https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3RBfBP

    Im a hardcore gamer and occassional streamer.

    Ideas?

    Edit: Final build idea. About to order everything tonight. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/66ZxJV
    Um personally I would have went with the "ASUS ROG" motherboard.

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132855

    I love the fan controller on this specific board it allows the fans to automatically stay in sync with each-other, and keeps the computer virtually dust free compared to my old build that would pull in all this dust because fans would always run at full RPM this only increases as the pc heats up to set levels.

    Also the memory is pretty awful,  its using DDR4-3000 memory, and only two sticks instead I would go with something with faster memory bandwidth but this is just me.

    https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232297&cm_re=DDR4-3600_ripjaws-_-20-232-297-_-Product 32 Gigs for $459.99 

    https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231907&cm_re=DDR4-3600_ripjaws-_-20-231-907-_-Product  16 Gigs for $259.99

    There is also a huge difference between WD Blue, and WD Black, from personal experience I have used a WD Black Hard-Drive for over 10 years without it failing or getting bad sectors, plus its a faster RPM, although then you do got to factor in platter density so it depends what your doing with the computer exactly both could be just as good but I prefer the black.

    The case isn't bad its actually pretty good although I am a fan of Corsair, and the OBsidian D series, as well as the power supply personally I would go with a 1000+ with modular and proper rails / voltage for the build.

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139140  There are many to choose from including those with pretty blue lights.

    Although depending on your budget it is possible to get certain things cheaper, but personally for sure I would have went with faster ram, because that 600 Mhz in some of the games I play made a big difference in FPS running at a standard 3000 mhz got me 40 FPS in some games while running at 3600 got me 70 + FPS, im talking CPU intensive processes and games.

    Although this might work okay for what your building it for I just usually choose to go for the higher end parts, and build something that will actually last for years I used my old computer 8 years before I changed anything.

    Also with that SSD, only put your programs you actively use on it and OS, fix everything including cached data, games, and personal files over to the WD Blue, so move the default users folder on windows 10 to prevent writes.



    https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/fX6MtJ
    Gdemami
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  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    nlipica said:
    That gpu will be noisy, I would pick one with 2-3 bigger fans.
    I think i saw your thread the other day about your pc.. don't throw it in the trash send it to me, so I can try to fix it and have a decent pc finally xd
    I didnt mean it like that I was just raging lol
    nlipica
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  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,413
    edited July 2017
    I would recommend 3 changes to your build.
    1) Mobo: You choose a Z170 mobo, this is fine if you are doing it for the savings. Personally I would choose a Z270 mobo because it will support more modern hardware, even if it has only been a year. Something like the Asus - PRIME Z270-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  would fit in the same price range and your brand affiliation with ASUS.
    2) SSD: I would use an NVMe SSD. It doesn't require as many connections, has less latency, and could achieve higher read rates. In your price range and capacity, I recommend spending more on the Western Digital - Black 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive It will give a higher read rate than the Samsung Evo 850.
    3) PSU: That's too much wattage for your build. You should really only get an 800 watt PSU if you are running multiple GPUs. You would typically be running you PSU outside of peak efficiency. A 650 watt is more than adequate for any single GPU. In that price range I recommend the SeaSonic - 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply You can also get it down to 99 CAD without sacrificing any quality.
  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    edited July 2017
    Cleffy said:
    I would recommend 3 changes to your build.
    1) Mobo: You choose a Z170 mobo, this is fine if you are doing it for the savings. Personally I would choose a Z270 mobo because it will support more modern hardware, even if it has only been a year. Something like the Asus - PRIME Z270-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  would fit in the same price range and your brand affiliation with ASUS.
    2) SSD: I would use an NVMe SSD. It doesn't require as many connections, has less latency, and could achieve higher read rates. In your price range and capacity, I recommend spending more on the Western Digital - Black 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive It will give a higher read rate than the Samsung Evo 850.
    3) PSU: That's too much wattage for your build. You should really only get an 800 watt PSU if you are running multiple GPUs. You would typically be running you PSU outside of peak efficiency. A 650 watt is more than adequate for any single GPU. In that price range I recommend the SeaSonic - 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply You can also get it down to 99 CAD without sacrificing any quality.
    Thanks. Is that for sure enough for a gtx 1080ti?

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  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    edited July 2017
    OhhPaigey said:
    nlipica said:
    That gpu will be noisy, I would pick one with 2-3 bigger fans.
    I think i saw your thread the other day about your pc.. don't throw it in the trash send it to me, so I can try to fix it and have a decent pc finally xd
    I didnt mean it like that I was just raging lol
    Oh yeah I forgot too using that specific motherboard you will need to have a thumb-drive and update the EUFI, because it won't recognize the 3600 memory properly will give problems although its fairy straight forward to do the app that comes on the disk will download the file required then you just put it in the back of the USB drive labeled for the EUFI update and press the button with the pc off I think you hold it if I remember correctly and it will stop once the update is complete its all in the instructions as well.

    As for the SSD, and I am not entirely familiar with them all currently I am using a Intel 540 SSD as a primary boot-drive only and really happy with it only 5 reallocated within the last 7 or so months but haven't tested too many drives that are SSD to know the failure rates yet can only go by what the internet tells me on those.

    Here I will post a picture of my current computer build so you can see what it kinda looks like inside. http://imgur.com/a/dapFz

    Also the XMP option has to be turned on for it to recognize the memory but so far I haven't had one blue screen or system crash since building this thing late last year.

    edit: its also possible to go with a lower power supply and everything but personally I always go with at least 1000 watt, generally these things last me for around 5-10 years before they even fail at which point anywhere between there I can throw in another 1080 and not have to worry about having to upgrade and all that, but there are many factors to take into account for failures of different parts on a PC including the temperature of the components, Vibration on the Hard-Drives which is why all of mine have vibration dampers on them.
    Gdemami
  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    OhhPaigey said:
    https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vypxM8

    https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3RBfBP

    Im a hardcore gamer and occassional streamer.

    Ideas?

    Edit: Final build idea. About to order everything tonight. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/66ZxJV

    Glad you got a higher capacity HD. 
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  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    edited July 2017
    https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/cqpg7h

    About to order now. Thanks everyone a ton for your help.

    Decided to switch motherboard cuz that updating thing seems annoying to read 3600 ram. Picked 2tb HDD. Kept my original EVGA 850 PSU just cuz id rather not have to mess with it later.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Kick ass build, shame about having to buy that video card now, prices likely will come down significantly in about 6 months.

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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    OhhPaigey said:
    https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/cqpg7h

    About to order now. Thanks everyone a ton for your help.

    Decided to switch motherboard cuz that updating thing seems annoying to read 3600 ram. Picked 2tb HDD. Kept my original EVGA 850 PSU just cuz id rather not have to mess with it later.
    Going to be a nice rig :)

    you might like playing with this

    https://rog.asus.com/articles/guides/the-kaby-lake-overclocking-guide/

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  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    OhhPaigey said:
    https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/cqpg7h

    About to order now. Thanks everyone a ton for your help.

    Decided to switch motherboard cuz that updating thing seems annoying to read 3600 ram. Picked 2tb HDD. Kept my original EVGA 850 PSU just cuz id rather not have to mess with it later.
    Well its an Asus board I didn't look up all the specs so generally it should be good, although only one problem with that board is if you decide to upgrade your graphics card later and run lets say SLI for example it will only run in 8x8 mode based off what it says on newegg, but I guess only the new like x99 and 2066 CPU's support the 16x16 slots anyways.

    Although I am not sure it comes with the cool ROG features, but the board could always require a Bios / EUFI update too never know until you put it together either way its very easy to do and setting the EUFI / BIOS manually another easy thing because a lot of times when custom building the BIOS or EUFI are not configured properly anyways such as boot order, or proper ram settings.
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