no...they would not have to do that. To be fair they would have to upgrade the graphics assets IF that is what they actually are planning on doing
you guys really have no idea but thats fine whatever makes you happy
Because you are a developer who works with online games, have worked extensively with network code and the problems/challenges that a company has to make sure their game works flawlessly in today's online environment.
As opposed to some gamerz who get an old version up and running but don't have a company goal of high quality and standards.
However, Scot is right, this is a feel the love thread.
I for one will actually try the classic servers when they come out and I'm actually excited to see what they do with the game.
lets recap.
ME: a software developer with some knowledge about what he is saying YOU: not a software developer with zero knowledge about what he is saying.
and you are more correct then I am because of...?
You are very good at illustrating how I am not a game developer working on the Billzard team but you forget that you are not either.
I believe I said I wasn't a developer.
So you, a software developer, is more knowledgeable bout how they do things at blizzard and think they just have to go into the archives, take out a copy and get it running?
Well then why the heck are you not telling them that? Seriously, they are going to spend all this time working on some classic version when all they have to do is hit install?
Additionally, you are also saying that a game that was created umpteen years ago will work flawlessly on modern systems? I'm not being accusatory or sarcastic with that, that's a serious question.
Because I have a host of old games that just don't work on my modern rig. So I imagine that with all the developments in hardware and software that some changes are going to have to be made. And also the game needs to work with their billing software and store and whatever else they have going on in the back end.
who said it was going to take thousands of hours to do? did Blizzard say that? if not they I would assume they would know something that pretty much the entire software industry already knows.
where did YOU get the idea that this would be a re-write massive project? because that doesnt even remotely make any sense.
and regarding the backend, its not hard to go backward, seriously. its not, they just need someone to build the enviroment and that doesnt take thousands of hours to do.
as much as it pains you, contemplate that I might be more right then wrong on this
You see, this is where you go wrong.
I appreciate you try to go beyond the post but you always end up way off.
In no way do I think this is a massive reworking of the game nor do I have any reason to believe it will take thousands of hours.
However, It's not as easy for them to go to the place where they store it, install and they are open for business. that's was their whole stance to begin with, it will take more than just throwing it up there.
really? and why is that, do tell.
and where do they store it?
and if your not going to go get the code and your not going to re-write it then where does it come from?
Like I said Sean, go to Blizzard Headquarters and explain to them how they can just get this up and running lickety split. Because clearly they aren't moving fast enough. Glad you are on the job.
why would I do that when clearly you know how it works. I am just waiting for you to explain all this to educate me.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
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no...they would not have to do that. To be fair they would have to upgrade the graphics assets IF that is what they actually are planning on doing
you guys really have no idea but thats fine whatever makes you happy
Because you are a developer who works with online games, have worked extensively with network code and the problems/challenges that a company has to make sure their game works flawlessly in today's online environment.
As opposed to some gamerz who get an old version up and running but don't have a company goal of high quality and standards.
However, Scot is right, this is a feel the love thread.
I for one will actually try the classic servers when they come out and I'm actually excited to see what they do with the game.
lets recap.
ME: a software developer with some knowledge about what he is saying YOU: not a software developer with zero knowledge about what he is saying.
and you are more correct then I am because of...?
You are very good at illustrating how I am not a game developer working on the Billzard team but you forget that you are not either.
I believe I said I wasn't a developer.
So you, a software developer, is more knowledgeable bout how they do things at blizzard and think they just have to go into the archives, take out a copy and get it running?
Well then why the heck are you not telling them that? Seriously, they are going to spend all this time working on some classic version when all they have to do is hit install?
Additionally, you are also saying that a game that was created umpteen years ago will work flawlessly on modern systems? I'm not being accusatory or sarcastic with that, that's a serious question.
Because I have a host of old games that just don't work on my modern rig. So I imagine that with all the developments in hardware and software that some changes are going to have to be made. And also the game needs to work with their billing software and store and whatever else they have going on in the back end.
who said it was going to take thousands of hours to do? did Blizzard say that? if not they I would assume they would know something that pretty much the entire software industry already knows.
where did YOU get the idea that this would be a re-write massive project? because that doesnt even remotely make any sense.
and regarding the backend, its not hard to go backward, seriously. its not, they just need someone to build the enviroment and that doesnt take thousands of hours to do.
as much as it pains you, contemplate that I might be more right then wrong on this
You see, this is where you go wrong.
I appreciate you try to go beyond the post but you always end up way off.
In no way do I think this is a massive reworking of the game nor do I have any reason to believe it will take thousands of hours.
However, It's not as easy for them to go to the place where they store it, install and they are open for business. that's was their whole stance to begin with, it will take more than just throwing it up there.
Old code isn't always kept in source versioning and sometimes those version systems get corrupt or lost or weren't well maintained. They may not have a complete single working code set for the game.
He mentioned Source Safe which is a shitty outdated system that has been abandoned by VSTS (also which no one uses including Microsoft). Versioning systems of that era were self hosted always so in order to potentially retrieve that system they would need to spin up a compatible version of the source system of the time (SourceSafe, CVS, SVN) and then try and salvage that code.
Then when that code is salvaged in order to get compile working all the libraries and header references would need to be rebuilt and work. That means implementing SDKs that are more than a decade out of date.
If all that lines up just right then maybe there could be a working framework to build from. After that they need to make that code system work within their framework and on modern OSs. Then they need to identify and patch all the vulnerabilities and bugs that were resolved in a later version. Getting decades old code to work can be a nightmare.
So the answer to his ridiculous premise is that it may not be store anywhere in any usable state. Games are the only industry I can think of that actually resurrects ancient code to resell it again. Most developers didn't anticipate doing this so why keep code in a ready state for decades? That costs money.
wait let me see if I get this right.
Because code MIGHT be corrupted is why people KNOW that they can not get the code and VSS. 'out of date' of a game version that came out in 2004? hello? OF COURSE its going to be likely in an old version of source control but who gives a fuck.
The question is how do people KNOW that 'they do not have access to the code and are not going to re-write it' and how does that even remotely make sense. How do you 'not get the code' and 'not rewrite it' at the same time?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
no...they would not have to do that. To be fair they would have to upgrade the graphics assets IF that is what they actually are planning on doing
you guys really have no idea but thats fine whatever makes you happy
Because you are a developer who works with online games, have worked extensively with network code and the problems/challenges that a company has to make sure their game works flawlessly in today's online environment.
As opposed to some gamerz who get an old version up and running but don't have a company goal of high quality and standards.
However, Scot is right, this is a feel the love thread.
I for one will actually try the classic servers when they come out and I'm actually excited to see what they do with the game.
lets recap.
ME: a software developer with some knowledge about what he is saying YOU: not a software developer with zero knowledge about what he is saying.
and you are more correct then I am because of...?
You are very good at illustrating how I am not a game developer working on the Billzard team but you forget that you are not either.
I believe I said I wasn't a developer.
So you, a software developer, is more knowledgeable bout how they do things at blizzard and think they just have to go into the archives, take out a copy and get it running?
Well then why the heck are you not telling them that? Seriously, they are going to spend all this time working on some classic version when all they have to do is hit install?
Additionally, you are also saying that a game that was created umpteen years ago will work flawlessly on modern systems? I'm not being accusatory or sarcastic with that, that's a serious question.
Because I have a host of old games that just don't work on my modern rig. So I imagine that with all the developments in hardware and software that some changes are going to have to be made. And also the game needs to work with their billing software and store and whatever else they have going on in the back end.
Blizzard already explained that the original build would not work with their current server infrastructure. Not sure what Sean is trying to say, but it's not relevant unless he's calling Bracken a liar.
Generally, in today's landscape, I might agree he could very likely be blowing smoke. But, this isn't a startup crowdfunding team. It's Blizzard. They've created enough quality experiences to warrant some faith in Bracken's words. Specifically, faith enough to believe it over a random forum warrior's words to the contrary.
no...they would not have to do that. To be fair they would have to upgrade the graphics assets IF that is what they actually are planning on doing
you guys really have no idea but thats fine whatever makes you happy
Because you are a developer who works with online games, have worked extensively with network code and the problems/challenges that a company has to make sure their game works flawlessly in today's online environment.
As opposed to some gamerz who get an old version up and running but don't have a company goal of high quality and standards.
However, Scot is right, this is a feel the love thread.
I for one will actually try the classic servers when they come out and I'm actually excited to see what they do with the game.
lets recap.
ME: a software developer with some knowledge about what he is saying YOU: not a software developer with zero knowledge about what he is saying.
and you are more correct then I am because of...?
You are very good at illustrating how I am not a game developer working on the Billzard team but you forget that you are not either.
I believe I said I wasn't a developer.
So you, a software developer, is more knowledgeable bout how they do things at blizzard and think they just have to go into the archives, take out a copy and get it running?
Well then why the heck are you not telling them that? Seriously, they are going to spend all this time working on some classic version when all they have to do is hit install?
Additionally, you are also saying that a game that was created umpteen years ago will work flawlessly on modern systems? I'm not being accusatory or sarcastic with that, that's a serious question.
Because I have a host of old games that just don't work on my modern rig. So I imagine that with all the developments in hardware and software that some changes are going to have to be made. And also the game needs to work with their billing software and store and whatever else they have going on in the back end.
Blizzard already explained that the original build would not work with their current server infrastructure. ...
so you create an enviroment that will. That would be a SHIT ton easier then re-factoring code.
But the thing is, you might be right that they are 'not going to get the code and they are not going to re-write it'' but I want to know how that physically works. where does the code come from if your 'not going to get it' and 'not going to re-write it'
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
no...they would not have to do that. To be fair they would have to upgrade the graphics assets IF that is what they actually are planning on doing
you guys really have no idea but thats fine whatever makes you happy
Because you are a developer who works with online games, have worked extensively with network code and the problems/challenges that a company has to make sure their game works flawlessly in today's online environment.
As opposed to some gamerz who get an old version up and running but don't have a company goal of high quality and standards.
However, Scot is right, this is a feel the love thread.
I for one will actually try the classic servers when they come out and I'm actually excited to see what they do with the game.
lets recap.
ME: a software developer with some knowledge about what he is saying YOU: not a software developer with zero knowledge about what he is saying.
and you are more correct then I am because of...?
You are very good at illustrating how I am not a game developer working on the Billzard team but you forget that you are not either.
I believe I said I wasn't a developer.
So you, a software developer, is more knowledgeable bout how they do things at blizzard and think they just have to go into the archives, take out a copy and get it running?
Well then why the heck are you not telling them that? Seriously, they are going to spend all this time working on some classic version when all they have to do is hit install?
Additionally, you are also saying that a game that was created umpteen years ago will work flawlessly on modern systems? I'm not being accusatory or sarcastic with that, that's a serious question.
Because I have a host of old games that just don't work on my modern rig. So I imagine that with all the developments in hardware and software that some changes are going to have to be made. And also the game needs to work with their billing software and store and whatever else they have going on in the back end.
Blizzard already explained that the original build would not work with their current server infrastructure. ...
so you create an enviroment that will. That would be a SHIT ton easier then re-factoring code.
But the thing is, you might be right that they are 'not going to get the code and they are not going to re-write it'' but I want to know how that physically works. where does the code come from if your 'not going to get it' and 'not going to re-write it'
TLDR.
Until you wanna provide us with your credentials for speaking more authoritatively than the WoW devs who have spoken on it publicly, there's no real reason to continue engaging you in your little crusade here.
no...they would not have to do that. To be fair they would have to upgrade the graphics assets IF that is what they actually are planning on doing
you guys really have no idea but thats fine whatever makes you happy
Because you are a developer who works with online games, have worked extensively with network code and the problems/challenges that a company has to make sure their game works flawlessly in today's online environment.
As opposed to some gamerz who get an old version up and running but don't have a company goal of high quality and standards.
However, Scot is right, this is a feel the love thread.
I for one will actually try the classic servers when they come out and I'm actually excited to see what they do with the game.
lets recap.
ME: a software developer with some knowledge about what he is saying YOU: not a software developer with zero knowledge about what he is saying.
and you are more correct then I am because of...?
You are very good at illustrating how I am not a game developer working on the Billzard team but you forget that you are not either.
I believe I said I wasn't a developer.
So you, a software developer, is more knowledgeable bout how they do things at blizzard and think they just have to go into the archives, take out a copy and get it running?
Well then why the heck are you not telling them that? Seriously, they are going to spend all this time working on some classic version when all they have to do is hit install?
Additionally, you are also saying that a game that was created umpteen years ago will work flawlessly on modern systems? I'm not being accusatory or sarcastic with that, that's a serious question.
Because I have a host of old games that just don't work on my modern rig. So I imagine that with all the developments in hardware and software that some changes are going to have to be made. And also the game needs to work with their billing software and store and whatever else they have going on in the back end.
Blizzard already explained that the original build would not work with their current server infrastructure. ...
so you create an enviroment that will. That would be a SHIT ton easier then re-factoring code.
But the thing is, you might be right that they are 'not going to get the code and they are not going to re-write it'' but I want to know how that physically works. where does the code come from if your 'not going to get it' and 'not going to re-write it'
TLDR.
Until you wanna provide us with your credentials for speaking more authoritatively than the WoW devs who have spoken on it publicly, there's no real reason to continue engaging you in your little crusade here.
I dont need to, you (or I) do not need to be a programmer to see how insanely silly this statement is
'they are not going to get the code.....AND....they are not going to re-write it'
So...yeah I dont have to have a certification (which I do) to know that doesnt make sense.
How do you KNOW they are not going to 'go get the code'
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
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Standard operating procedure would be to go get the code out of source control and spin it up on a virtual enviroment (OS/networking) then test it out and call IT to make a physical enviroment based on the virtual specs. If for some reason that does not work then make alterations to the 'networking layer' code
The likelyhood that the old code is corrupted and lost is very low for a firm of this type and given the code in question.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
no...they would not have to do that. To be fair they would have to upgrade the graphics assets IF that is what they actually are planning on doing
you guys really have no idea but thats fine whatever makes you happy
Because you are a developer who works with online games, have worked extensively with network code and the problems/challenges that a company has to make sure their game works flawlessly in today's online environment.
As opposed to some gamerz who get an old version up and running but don't have a company goal of high quality and standards.
However, Scot is right, this is a feel the love thread.
I for one will actually try the classic servers when they come out and I'm actually excited to see what they do with the game.
lets recap.
ME: a software developer with some knowledge about what he is saying YOU: not a software developer with zero knowledge about what he is saying.
and you are more correct then I am because of...?
You are very good at illustrating how I am not a game developer working on the Billzard team but you forget that you are not either.
I believe I said I wasn't a developer.
So you, a software developer, is more knowledgeable bout how they do things at blizzard and think they just have to go into the archives, take out a copy and get it running?
Well then why the heck are you not telling them that? Seriously, they are going to spend all this time working on some classic version when all they have to do is hit install?
Additionally, you are also saying that a game that was created umpteen years ago will work flawlessly on modern systems? I'm not being accusatory or sarcastic with that, that's a serious question.
Because I have a host of old games that just don't work on my modern rig. So I imagine that with all the developments in hardware and software that some changes are going to have to be made. And also the game needs to work with their billing software and store and whatever else they have going on in the back end.
Blizzard already explained that the original build would not work with their current server infrastructure. ...
so you create an enviroment that will. That would be a SHIT ton easier then re-factoring code.
But the thing is, you might be right that they are 'not going to get the code and they are not going to re-write it'' but I want to know how that physically works. where does the code come from if your 'not going to get it' and 'not going to re-write it'
TLDR.
Until you wanna provide us with your credentials for speaking more authoritatively than the WoW devs who have spoken on it publicly, there's no real reason to continue engaging you in your little crusade here.
I dont need to, you (or I) do not need to be a programmer to see how insanely silly this statement is
'they are not going to get the code.....AND....they are not going to re-write it'
So...yeah I dont have to have a certification (which I do) to know that doesnt make sense.
How do you KNOW they are not going to 'go get the code'
Because I'm really former President Barack Obama and I ordered them to purge the old code and burn all their old infrastructure for national security reasons.
WoW is a cartoon, it has always been a cartoon. its for childern
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WoW is a cartoon, it has always been a cartoon. its for childern
Says the guy who is a big fan of this:
Yeah Kerbal Space Progam is indeed one of the best games ever. I wouldnt say The Best but one of the best. Also I like how the game demonstrates you can have exciting, thrilling, tension without violence.
thanks for reminding me that is awesome
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
WoW is a cartoon, it has always been a cartoon. its for childern
Says the guy who is a big fan of this:
Yeah Kerbal Space Progam is indeed one of the best games ever. I wouldnt say The Best but one of the best. Also I like how the game demonstrates you can have exciting, thrilling, tension without violence.
thanks for reminding me that is awesome
It's also a fucking cartoon dude. Get your story straight.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
I dont need to, you (or I) do not need to be a programmer to see how insanely silly this statement is
'they are not going to get the code.....AND....they are not going to re-write it'
So...yeah I dont have to have a certification (which I do) to know that doesnt make sense.
How do you KNOW they are not going to 'go get the code'
Because I'm really former President Barack Obama and I ordered them to purge the old code and burn all their old infrastructure for national security reasons.
Your move, bud.
exactly! so absolutely terrified to be contradicted on anything some people blindly overlook the fact that they are stating literally pure imagination based on zero experience as fact but then criticize anyone who suggesting a different path regardless of their personal experience.
My experience or lack of experience is only one small part of this equation
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
I dont need to, you (or I) do not need to be a programmer to see how insanely silly this statement is
'they are not going to get the code.....AND....they are not going to re-write it'
So...yeah I dont have to have a certification (which I do) to know that doesnt make sense.
How do you KNOW they are not going to 'go get the code'
Because I'm really former President Barack Obama and I ordered them to purge the old code and burn all their old infrastructure for national security reasons.
Your move, bud.
exactly! so absolutely terrified to be contradicted on anything some people blindly overlook the fact that they are stating literally pure imagination based on zero experience as fact but then criticize anyone who suggesting a different path regardless of their personal experience.
My experience or lack of experience is only one small part of this equation
No, they're stating facts based on the publicly recorded opinion of folks who work on that very game and have credentials clearly visible to support it. Your self-proclaimed credentials are as authoritative as my Presidential authority.
no...they would not have to do that. To be fair they would have to upgrade the graphics assets IF that is what they actually are planning on doing
you guys really have no idea but thats fine whatever makes you happy
Because you are a developer who works with online games, have worked extensively with network code and the problems/challenges that a company has to make sure their game works flawlessly in today's online environment.
As opposed to some gamerz who get an old version up and running but don't have a company goal of high quality and standards.
However, Scot is right, this is a feel the love thread.
I for one will actually try the classic servers when they come out and I'm actually excited to see what they do with the game.
lets recap.
ME: a software developer with some knowledge about what he is saying YOU: not a software developer with zero knowledge about what he is saying.
and you are more correct then I am because of...?
You are very good at illustrating how I am not a game developer working on the Billzard team but you forget that you are not either.
I believe I said I wasn't a developer.
So you, a software developer, is more knowledgeable bout how they do things at blizzard and think they just have to go into the archives, take out a copy and get it running?
Well then why the heck are you not telling them that? Seriously, they are going to spend all this time working on some classic version when all they have to do is hit install?
Additionally, you are also saying that a game that was created umpteen years ago will work flawlessly on modern systems? I'm not being accusatory or sarcastic with that, that's a serious question.
Because I have a host of old games that just don't work on my modern rig. So I imagine that with all the developments in hardware and software that some changes are going to have to be made. And also the game needs to work with their billing software and store and whatever else they have going on in the back end.
Blizzard already explained that the original build would not work with their current server infrastructure. Not sure what Sean is trying to say, but it's not relevant unless he's calling Bracken a liar.
Generally, in today's landscape, I might agree he could very likely be blowing smoke. But, this isn't a startup crowdfunding team. It's Blizzard. They've created enough quality experiences to warrant some faith in Bracken's words. Specifically, faith enough to believe it over a random forum warrior's words to the contrary.
Exactly! Thank you and Torval for "getting it". And for having a good answer.
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I dont need to, you (or I) do not need to be a programmer to see how insanely silly this statement is
'they are not going to get the code.....AND....they are not going to re-write it'
So...yeah I dont have to have a certification (which I do) to know that doesnt make sense.
How do you KNOW they are not going to 'go get the code'
Because I'm really former President Barack Obama and I ordered them to purge the old code and burn all their old infrastructure for national security reasons.
Your move, bud.
exactly! so absolutely terrified to be contradicted on anything some people blindly overlook the fact that they are stating literally pure imagination based on zero experience as fact but then criticize anyone who suggesting a different path regardless of their personal experience.
My experience or lack of experience is only one small part of this equation
No, they're stating facts based on the publicly recorded opinion of folks who work on that very game and have credentials clearly visible to support it. Your self-proclaimed credentials are as authoritative as my Presidential authority.
and that is why they are 'not going to get the code because it could have been corrupted and they are not going to re-write the code'
blizzard said that did they? So they are going to re-code the rule set but not re-code the rule set.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
no...they would not have to do that. To be fair they would have to upgrade the graphics assets IF that is what they actually are planning on doing
you guys really have no idea but thats fine whatever makes you happy
Because you are a developer who works with online games, have worked extensively with network code and the problems/challenges that a company has to make sure their game works flawlessly in today's online environment.
As opposed to some gamerz who get an old version up and running but don't have a company goal of high quality and standards.
However, Scot is right, this is a feel the love thread.
I for one will actually try the classic servers when they come out and I'm actually excited to see what they do with the game.
lets recap.
ME: a software developer with some knowledge about what he is saying YOU: not a software developer with zero knowledge about what he is saying.
and you are more correct then I am because of...?
You are very good at illustrating how I am not a game developer working on the Billzard team but you forget that you are not either.
I believe I said I wasn't a developer.
So you, a software developer, is more knowledgeable bout how they do things at blizzard and think they just have to go into the archives, take out a copy and get it running?
Well then why the heck are you not telling them that? Seriously, they are going to spend all this time working on some classic version when all they have to do is hit install?
Additionally, you are also saying that a game that was created umpteen years ago will work flawlessly on modern systems? I'm not being accusatory or sarcastic with that, that's a serious question.
Because I have a host of old games that just don't work on my modern rig. So I imagine that with all the developments in hardware and software that some changes are going to have to be made. And also the game needs to work with their billing software and store and whatever else they have going on in the back end.
Blizzard already explained that the original build would not work with their current server infrastructure. Not sure what Sean is trying to say, but it's not relevant unless he's calling Bracken a liar.
Generally, in today's landscape, I might agree he could very likely be blowing smoke. But, this isn't a startup crowdfunding team. It's Blizzard. They've created enough quality experiences to warrant some faith in Bracken's words. Specifically, faith enough to believe it over a random forum warrior's words to the contrary.
Exactly! Thank you and Torval for "getting it". And for having a good answer.
dude..
you make a new enviroment.
even a low level developer like me has done that more than once...face palm
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
I dont need to, you (or I) do not need to be a programmer to see how insanely silly this statement is
'they are not going to get the code.....AND....they are not going to re-write it'
So...yeah I dont have to have a certification (which I do) to know that doesnt make sense.
How do you KNOW they are not going to 'go get the code'
Because I'm really former President Barack Obama and I ordered them to purge the old code and burn all their old infrastructure for national security reasons.
Your move, bud.
exactly! so absolutely terrified to be contradicted on anything some people blindly overlook the fact that they are stating literally pure imagination based on zero experience as fact but then criticize anyone who suggesting a different path regardless of their personal experience.
My experience or lack of experience is only one small part of this equation
No, they're stating facts based on the publicly recorded opinion of folks who work on that very game and have credentials clearly visible to support it. Your self-proclaimed credentials are as authoritative as my Presidential authority.
and that is why they are 'not going to get the code because it could have been corrupted and they are not going to re-write the code'
blizzard said that did they? So they are going to re-code the rule set but not re-code the rule set.
Hey! Where ya going with those goalposts? Put those back where ya got 'em!
I dont need to, you (or I) do not need to be a programmer to see how insanely silly this statement is
'they are not going to get the code.....AND....they are not going to re-write it'
So...yeah I dont have to have a certification (which I do) to know that doesnt make sense.
How do you KNOW they are not going to 'go get the code'
Because I'm really former President Barack Obama and I ordered them to purge the old code and burn all their old infrastructure for national security reasons.
Your move, bud.
exactly! so absolutely terrified to be contradicted on anything some people blindly overlook the fact that they are stating literally pure imagination based on zero experience as fact but then criticize anyone who suggesting a different path regardless of their personal experience.
My experience or lack of experience is only one small part of this equation
No, they're stating facts based on the publicly recorded opinion of folks who work on that very game and have credentials clearly visible to support it. Your self-proclaimed credentials are as authoritative as my Presidential authority.
and that is why they are 'not going to get the code because it could have been corrupted and they are not going to re-write the code'
blizzard said that did they? So they are going to re-code the rule set but not re-code the rule set.
Hey! Where ya going with those goalposts? Put those back where ya got 'em!
again..
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I am just waiting for you to explain all this to educate me.
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'out of date' of a game version that came out in 2004? hello? OF COURSE its going to be likely in an old version of source control but who gives a fuck.
The question is how do people KNOW that 'they do not have access to the code and are not going to re-write it' and how does that even remotely make sense. How do you 'not get the code' and 'not rewrite it' at the same time?
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Generally, in today's landscape, I might agree he could very likely be blowing smoke. But, this isn't a startup crowdfunding team. It's Blizzard. They've created enough quality experiences to warrant some faith in Bracken's words. Specifically, faith enough to believe it over a random forum warrior's words to the contrary.
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Until you wanna provide us with your credentials for speaking more authoritatively than the WoW devs who have spoken on it publicly, there's no real reason to continue engaging you in your little crusade here.
'they are not going to get the code.....AND....they are not going to re-write it'
So...yeah I dont have to have a certification (which I do) to know that doesnt make sense.
How do you KNOW they are not going to 'go get the code'
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The likelyhood that the old code is corrupted and lost is very low for a firm of this type and given the code in question.
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tell me how it works, educate me
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