Never played WOW before is This Game for ME?

davc123

looking for new MMORPG is this game for me?

last time i played FFXIV but cant pass boring leveling

• i want for long terma

• Must be very Active Endgame PVP/PVE

• Open World or Arena PVP or Both

• i dont want slow lvling / i dont want boring combat / i dont want shity graphic / i dont want 1000 quest / idc for story / i dont want boring quest ( leveling via dungeons should be nice )

• i want alot endgame contents idc for early contents

• i like grind with party Dungeons / Raids / open world mobs / floors ...

• i dont want feel like i playing single player game

• i dont want max gear after 1week ( i want slow improving my gear not crazy slow )

also how good is PVP ? gear count at PVP? also have open world PVP? open world boss?

Sephiroso

I mean, based on your list wow checks everything off. From there, you'd have to try it and see how it is. People's opinion on wow's pvp will depend on who you ask and also depends on that person's skill level.

OWPvP was long thought to be practically dead. Though they're making some rather large sweeping changes regarding OWPVP which is gonna bring a massive resurgence back. Basically they're getting rid of PVP servers and instead letting people enable something called war  mode which will group people together for owpvp no matter what server they're on. They're also incentivizing people to enable war mode by giving increased rewards(as well as exp which will help with leveling).

Leveling in wow is fairly quick, the recent change they made to the world scaling with you makes it even more enjoyable as well. You no longer have to stop leveling in a zone or dungeon once you outlevel it which is a nice change of pace compared to before with heirlooms you'd have to change zones every 10-30 minutes of questing.

WoW is pretty much the king when it comes to end game content. Mythic+ for people who don't like to raid, WoW's long since mastered the artform of raiding. They have this new form of content, island expeditions which i've heard is pretty fun from people in the beta. Basically 5man scenarios from what i've heard.

lahnmir

Levelling from 1-110 in Legion with some minor profession grinding took me roughly 130 hours, you can do it much faster by grinding dungeons back to back but where is the fun in that?

I didn't spend a second on cooking/first aid/fishing/archeology/pvp or pet battling btw.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

Sephiroso

lahnmir said:

Levelling from 1-110 in Legion with some minor profession grinding took me roughly 130 hours, you can do it much faster by grinding dungeons back to back but where is the fun in that?

I didn't spend a second on cooking/first aid/fishing/archeology/pvp or pet battling btw.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

SHIT God damnit, you just reminded me i meant to do some first aid stuff last night to get the legacy achievements....fuck. Oh well.

Amathe

davc123 said:

looking for new MMORPG is this game for me?

last time i played FFXIV but cant pass boring leveling

• i want for long terma YES

• Must be very Active Endgame PVP/PVE YES

• Open World or Arena PVP or Both YES

• i dont want slow lvling IT'S NOT SLOW/ i dont want boring combat MEH?/ i dont want shity graphic DEBATEABLE/ i dont want 1000 quest MORE LIKE 50,000/ idc for story OK/ i dont want boring quest SWING AND A MISS ( leveling via dungeons should be nice ) YES

• i want alot endgame contents idc for early contents THERE IS A LOT OF CONTENT OF EVERY KIND

• i like grind with party Dungeons AVAILABLE / Raids AVAILABLE/ open world mobs SOME/ floors ... ?

• i dont want feel like i playing single player game THAT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU DO, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF SOLO PLAY AVAILABLE

• i dont want max gear after 1week ( i want slow improving my gear not crazy slow ) IT'S NOT SLOW, BUT IT'S NOT THAT FAST EITHER

also how good is PVP ? MANY LIKE IT gear count at PVP? YES also have open world PVP?  NOT REALLY, BIT LARGE BATTLEGROUNDS open world boss? NOT SURE 

gervaise1

davc123 said:

looking for new MMORPG is this game for me?

last time i played FFXIV but cant pass boring leveling

• i want for long terma

• Must be very Active Endgame PVP/PVE

• Open World or Arena PVP or Both

• i dont want slow lvling / i dont want boring combat / i dont want shity graphic / i dont want 1000 quest / idc for story / i dont want boring quest ( leveling via dungeons should be nice )

• i want alot endgame contents idc for early contents

• i like grind with party Dungeons / Raids / open world mobs / floors ...

• i dont want feel like i playing single player game

• i dont want max gear after 1week ( i want slow improving my gear not crazy slow )

also how good is PVP ? gear count at PVP? also have open world PVP? open world boss?

Tricky. 

First: you can try the trial. It will give you an idea of e.g. the mechanics, the graphics, the quest system, how active world chat is on the server you have chosen and so forth. You might also want to try a PvP and a PvE server - especially as you mention open world PvP. 

Second some concerns:
-things will change with the upcoming expansion - abilities, combat etc.
- its its not as active as it once was - obviously it is better around expansion time. Maybe take th etime to check out the state of the active guilds - there are web pages - and how active there roster is. Things are not what they were.
- getting to level cap is the easy part, not as easy I suspect as said above since it never is when you start a new game. However getting the gear you need to get into the groups that run the dungeons and raids ..... I would be very surprised if you find a group of folks who will "carry" an ungeared player.
- Imo you will have to put a lot of grind - possibly solo - to get the gear to get into the lower level dungeons etc. It can be bad enough for a gearded player to break into an established guild! Again it can be easier at expansion time when people come back but again you will be playing catch up.

Third: you can't do - in any game - all of what you list at the same time. So what is your priority? And there are also some contradictions in what you say. You want fast not slow leveling but you want slow not fast gear progression? In many games - not all but many - gear is just an extension of levelingl certainly the case with WoW and come the expansion you will need new gear (at least that is how it has been in every expansion so far). 

Like I say there is a free trial - run different characters on different servers. You can't get far but it will answer some of your basic questions. Beyond that though I am not sure WoW will provide what you want. 

Sephiroso

Now's the perfect time with the announcement that you no longer have to buy the battle chest + legion. Just gotta sub, 15 bucks and you're current(until BfA comes out in a month).

karnivor

lahnmir said:

Levelling from 1-110 in Legion with some minor profession grinding took me roughly 130 hours, you can do it much faster by grinding dungeons back to back but where is the fun in that?

I didn't spend a second on cooking/first aid/fishing/archeology/pvp or pet battling btw.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

is that with or without heirloom gear?

Sephiroso

karnivor said:

lahnmir said:

Levelling from 1-110 in Legion with some minor profession grinding took me roughly 130 hours, you can do it much faster by grinding dungeons back to back but where is the fun in that?

I didn't spend a second on cooking/first aid/fishing/archeology/pvp or pet battling btw.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

is that with or without heirloom gear?

With or without thats way too many hours. That's playing SUUUUUUUUPER casually and taking your time to smell the roses. 1-60, you're getting many levels in an hour. Even 100-110 wouldn't take much more than 1-2 hours a level just questing with 0 heirlooms.

Wizardry

op..Sounds like you don't want a mmorpg.
Why not go play one of those new genre games where you just go out and kill over sized/scaled graphic creatures or like Destiny or many other similar games.

A role playing game should act like a role playing game and not some speed leveler,levels should feel important and gear should feel worthwhile and not some replaceable icon every 15 minutes.
But no matter..OP you are in the same boat as most mmorpg players i have come across,it is also why the genre has gone south.

FYI...FFXIV and Square's other game have both geared towards a WOW design,so your not getting better with Wow,your getting worse graphics and an even more boring combat/class design as well aiming towards a ton of boring quests.

Basically you are way late to the party,the EQ1..UltimaOnline ..FFXI's of past are just that,great games of the past,now everything is generic and boring,mostly end game nonsense.

lahnmir

Sephiroso said:

karnivor said:

lahnmir said:

Levelling from 1-110 in Legion with some minor profession grinding took me roughly 130 hours, you can do it much faster by grinding dungeons back to back but where is the fun in that?

I didn't spend a second on cooking/first aid/fishing/archeology/pvp or pet battling btw.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

is that with or without heirloom gear?

With or without thats way too many hours. That's playing SUUUUUUUUPER casually and taking your time to smell the roses. 1-60, you're getting many levels in an hour. Even 100-110 wouldn't take much more than 1-2 hours a level just questing with 0 heirlooms.

Well, not really actually. I did however treat it like a new player experience, meaning:

Playing without heirlooms
No gold from other characters
Playing a class I haven't played before: rogue
Playing a side I haven't played before: alliance
level one profession and skill: leatherworking/skinning
No dungeon grinding but doing one every level if possible

The funny thing is I did this as a test because people kept telling how superfast you could/would level as a new player. I was surprised too by the number at the end truth be told, I too thought it would be much faster. It was 127 to be precise, some skinning grinding was involved since I bough nothing at the AH.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir  

Sephiroso

lahnmir said:

Sephiroso said:

karnivor said:

lahnmir said:

Levelling from 1-110 in Legion with some minor profession grinding took me roughly 130 hours, you can do it much faster by grinding dungeons back to back but where is the fun in that?

I didn't spend a second on cooking/first aid/fishing/archeology/pvp or pet battling btw.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

is that with or without heirloom gear?

With or without thats way too many hours. That's playing SUUUUUUUUPER casually and taking your time to smell the roses. 1-60, you're getting many levels in an hour. Even 100-110 wouldn't take much more than 1-2 hours a level just questing with 0 heirlooms.

Well, not really actually. I did however treat it like a new player experience, meaning:

Playing without heirlooms
No gold from other characters
Playing a class I haven't played before: rogue
Playing a side I haven't played before: alliance
level one profession and skill: leatherworking/skinning
No dungeon grinding but doing one every level if possible

The funny thing is I did this as a test because people kept telling how superfast you could/would level as a new player. I was surprised too by the number at the end truth be told, I too thought it would be much faster. It was 127 to be precise, some skinning grinding was involved since I bough nothing at the AH.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir  

Sorry but nah. Two things. It's an absolute waste of time working on professions while leveling since you level too fast for it to be worth the time. Might as well grab 2 gathering and sell the mats to make gold.

Second, in no world should it take 127 hours even if you didn't step foot and do a single dungeon and its relating quests. I've leveled without heirlooms before and the only thing i spent on an alt were to buy some bags so the only advantage i had was bag space and my vendor mount. It took roughly 76~ hours. I just can't imagine it taking another 40-50 hours. I really can't.

Full disclosure, this was before the change to make the world scale with you as you leveled. But if i remember correctly, they did change the exp values in certain level ranges but...that's a massive jump that i just do not see unless like i said someone is playing super casually, reading every single quest log sentence, watching every cinematic, etc.

lahnmir

Sephiroso said:

lahnmir said:

Sephiroso said:

karnivor said:

lahnmir said:

Levelling from 1-110 in Legion with some minor profession grinding took me roughly 130 hours, you can do it much faster by grinding dungeons back to back but where is the fun in that?

I didn't spend a second on cooking/first aid/fishing/archeology/pvp or pet battling btw.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

is that with or without heirloom gear?

With or without thats way too many hours. That's playing SUUUUUUUUPER casually and taking your time to smell the roses. 1-60, you're getting many levels in an hour. Even 100-110 wouldn't take much more than 1-2 hours a level just questing with 0 heirlooms.

Well, not really actually. I did however treat it like a new player experience, meaning:

Playing without heirlooms
No gold from other characters
Playing a class I haven't played before: rogue
Playing a side I haven't played before: alliance
level one profession and skill: leatherworking/skinning
No dungeon grinding but doing one every level if possible

The funny thing is I did this as a test because people kept telling how superfast you could/would level as a new player. I was surprised too by the number at the end truth be told, I too thought it would be much faster. It was 127 to be precise, some skinning grinding was involved since I bough nothing at the AH.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir  

Sorry but nah. Two things. It's an absolute waste of time working on professions while leveling since you level too fast for it to be worth the time. Might as well grab 2 gathering and sell the mats to make gold.

Second, in no world should it take 127 hours even if you didn't step foot and do a single dungeon and its relating quests. I've leveled without heirlooms before and the only thing i spent on an alt were to buy some bags so the only advantage i had was bag space and my vendor mount. It took roughly 76~ hours. I just can't imagine it taking another 40-50 hours. I really can't.

Full disclosure, this was before the change to make the world scale with you as you leveled. But if i remember correctly, they did change the exp values in certain level ranges but...that's a massive jump that i just do not see unless like i said someone is playing super casually, reading every single quest log sentence, watching every cinematic, etc.

Professions might be useless but that has no relevance here, thats how long it took including levelling those. And I read most yes and watched most cinematics, I was unfamiliar with the alliance side. I wouldn't call that ultra casual though but just normal gameplay, aka not rushing. I can easily level in half that time if not faster (done that a couple of times too) but I think this rather accurately describes a "first time" experience.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir