Star Citizen starts selling land today. Nov. 28 2017

Octagon7711

This certificate entitles you to claim a single 4km x 4km parcel of UEE land that has been zoned for commercial, residential or industrial use as well as a GEOTACK marking beacon.

For more information about the UEE Land Claim Licenses, click here.

$50.00 USD

This certificate entitles you to claim a single 8km x 8km parcel of UEE land that has been zoned for commercial, residential or industrial use as well as a GEOTACK-X marking beacon.

Limit of 10 per account

$100.00 USD

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/16278-UEE-Land-Claim-Licenses

- Pledge                                       THE GEOTACK PLANETARY BEACON

Star Citizen: Selling Digital Land (An overview)

MaxBacon

Seems to be the same thing they do with ships but with licenses to claim land, sold for in-game currency later.

Octagon7711

CR is talking about claiming land in the interview that's going on now.  

"This certificate entitles you to claim" it says.

xtrabullets

This is absolutely retarded. What a freaking money grab. 

Shaigh

So they went from selling ships to selling land because raising $168M isn't close to enough money to finish developing this game. What a joke.

Erillion

Q&A Session on how to claim land in Star Citizen

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/16292-Q-A-UEE-Land-Claim-Licenses

"Do I need to file a claim to build a base or mine?

No, you can freely build or mine planets and moons outside UEE controlled space but you’re on your own as far as security goes. It’s worth noting, too, that one of the largest deterrents to others moving in on a valuable section of land you’re working – or taking liberties with an outpost you’ve constructed – is the fact that within UEE space such actions are criminal and will have significant consequences for the infringers. These protections, of course, don’t exist beyond the borders.

Will I have an advantage over other players if I buy a claim license now?

No. Licenses can be bought for UEC in game and no one will be able to claim land before the mechanic is available in game for all. People that own claim licenses now, during the anniversary sale to support development, and people that earn the money in-game to buy one will be on equal footing assuming they have enough UEC, especially as there will be millions of locations for people to explore and claim within the Universe over the life time of the game.

Will players claiming the “best” plots of land on day one be an issue?

No. Due to the billions of square kilometres of available land over many planets and moons and of course as new Star Systems are introduced and explored, all players will have the ability to find and claim new “hot spots” throughout the lifetime of the game. Also, every player can have their own reason for what could be the ‘best’ piece of land, while some may judge a plot of land based on the type and quantity of natural resources that it contains, others might be looking for proximity to trade routes, and others could simply look for a quiet spot with a beautiful vista. This – combined with the fact that there’s an enormous amount of real estate available – means that prospecting and the purchase of land are two pieces of a supply-and-demand equation governing how rapidly land of a distinct perceived value will come on the market."

etc.




Have fun

Octagon7711

I'm really in shock.  People went off on other MMO's for selling land before a game launched.  But it's OK for SC to do it?

Erillion

xtrabullets said:

This is absolutely retarded. What a freaking money grab. 

Or you read their disclaimer:


"Please Note: These claim licenses are being made available for pledging to help fund Star Citizen’s development. The ability to obtain these claim licenses will ultimately be available for in-game credits and/or otherwise earnable through play in the game. Pledging for these claim licenses now allows us to include deeper features in the Star Citizen game, and is not required for starting the game."


Absolutely no one forces anyone to get such a claim NOW unless the person wants to support the project that way.


Have fun

Octagon7711

So a Corp that buys ten of these each could probably claim a rather large area in hours.

rpmcmurphy

I don't like this but then I don't like any of their greedy grasping monetisation so this is just same old CIG to me.

Looks like Roberts has been having late night phone calls with Garriot and taken a leaf out of SotA's book.

First it's ships, then cars and bikes, now it's land, what comes next?

MaxBacon

Octagon7711 said:

I'm really in shock.  People went off on other MMO's for selling land before a game launched.  But it's OK for SC to do it?

If CIG went CoE on it, they would sell the actual moon for 10K

Octagon7711

Nice to know I'm not forced to buy those and that I don't have to buy them, good information, thanks.  I'm waiting to start buying titles next. 'King of the planet.'

SEANMCAD

I think they might want to consider that now is the time to tell the audience specifically how they plan to make ships and now land not an advantage. I imagine some ways but I am just speculating. they need to step up to the plate and explain

Erillion

Octagon7711 said:

So a Corp that buys ten of these each could probably claim a rather large area in hours.

You consider a 4x4 km or 8 x 8 km area large compared to the size of a planet or moon ?

Let me help you.

Earth .. diameter 12756 km ... Surface Area of Earth ... pi times Diameter squared ... You could have 7.983.231 such 8 x 8 km land claims ... on ONE planet alone.


Have fun

Octagon7711

MaxBacon said:

Octagon7711 said:

I'm really in shock.  People went off on other MMO's for selling land before a game launched.  But it's OK for SC to do it?

If CIG went CoE on it, they would sell the actual moon for 10K

Good one, thanks I needed a smile right about now.

Octagon7711

SEANMCAD said:

I think they might want to consider that now is the time to tell the audience specifically how they plan to make ships and now land not an advantage. I imagine some ways but I am just speculating. they need to step up to the plate and explain

They explain everything here.

Star Citizen: ATV Anniversary Special - Consolidated Outland & UEE Land Claim Licenses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=baOd4MLeFkM

MaxBacon

Octagon7711 said:

Nice to know I'm not forced to buy those and that I don't have to buy them, good information, thanks.  I'm waiting to start buying titles next. 'King of the planet.'

To me, the most important thing is that no game features and mechanics such as this one to be behind a forced paywall and stay within achievable terms in terms of time. It can never be a no money = no deal, as long that stands I'm not really triggered by them selling it now.

rpmcmurphy

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/7g7coj/when_you_think_cig_cannot_be_more_p2w/

Octagon7711

Erillion said:

Octagon7711 said:

So a Corp that buys ten of these each could probably claim a rather large area in hours.

You consider a 4x4 km or 8 x 8 km area large compared to the size of a planet or moon ?

Let me help you.

Earth .. diameter 12756 km ... Surface Area of Earth ... pi times Diameter squared ... You could have 7.983.231 such 8 x 8 km land claims ... on ONE planet alone.


Have fun

Great, so they will have to limit their claim to nice pieces of flat areas probably next to derelicts or emergency stations.  I'm sure those who have to work to purchase those things will still have  plenty of good land left like they do in other games that have land grabs.

I suppose you like loot boxes because those are probably coming next.

hfztt

Erillion said:

Will players claiming the “best” plots of land on day one be an issue?

No. Due to the billions of square kilometres of available land over many planets and moons and of course as new Star Systems are introduced and explored, all players will have the ability to find and claim new “hot spots” throughout the lifetime of the game. Also, every player can have their own reason for what could be the ‘best’ piece of land, while some may judge a plot of land based on the type and quantity of natural resources that it contains, others might be looking for proximity to trade routes, and others could simply look for a quiet spot with a beautiful vista. This – combined with the fact that there’s an enormous amount of real estate available – means that prospecting and the purchase of land are two pieces of a supply-and-demand equation governing how rapidly land of a distinct perceived value will come on the market."

That is the most f'ing thin dodge of a completely valid P2W concern I have seen in a long time.

Of course 0 day claimers will have an advantage.

Sic transit...

SEANMCAD

Octagon7711 said:

Erillion said:

Octagon7711 said:

So a Corp that buys ten of these each could probably claim a rather large area in hours.

You consider a 4x4 km or 8 x 8 km area large compared to the size of a planet or moon ?

Let me help you.

Earth .. diameter 12756 km ... Surface Area of Earth ... pi times Diameter squared ... You could have 7.983.231 such 8 x 8 km land claims ... on ONE planet alone.


Have fun

Great, so they will have to limit their claim to nice pieces of flat areas probably next to derelicts or emergency stations.  I'm sure those who have to work to purchase those things will still have  plenty of good land left like they do in other games that have land grabs.

I suppose you like loot boxes because those are probably coming next.

I like your hopeless optimism

anyway, I think its passed time for them to step up and explain in some level of detail how these items are (as they claim) not going to give players an advantage.
I think gamers on the other hand should put the razer down and not always assume the worst 

TheScavenger

So....

this is turning more and more pay to win.

Or these days is it actually called ...

Pay for convenience

So not only can you buy a bunch of ships, now you can buy land too.

This is no longer different than Planet Entopia. Which btw also has space travel, ship mechanics and various planets you can go to.

SEANMCAD

TheScavenger said:

So....

this is turning more and more pay to win.

Or these days is it actually called ...

Pay for convenience

So not only can you buy a bunch of ships, now you can buy land too.

This is no longer different than Planet Entopia. Which btw also has space travel, ship mechanics and various planets you can go to.

well its that OR the game mechanics will be so limited that it will not matter if you have land or not or it might mean (like in eq2) you can get to level X in 5 mins. There are a ton of possiblities but they do need to step up and explain how its going to work with their claims

Octagon7711

SEANMCAD said:

Octagon7711 said:

Erillion said:

Octagon7711 said:

So a Corp that buys ten of these each could probably claim a rather large area in hours.

You consider a 4x4 km or 8 x 8 km area large compared to the size of a planet or moon ?

Let me help you.

Earth .. diameter 12756 km ... Surface Area of Earth ... pi times Diameter squared ... You could have 7.983.231 such 8 x 8 km land claims ... on ONE planet alone.


Have fun

Great, so they will have to limit their claim to nice pieces of flat areas probably next to derelicts or emergency stations.  I'm sure those who have to work to purchase those things will still have  plenty of good land left like they do in other games that have land grabs.

I suppose you like loot boxes because those are probably coming next.

I like your hopeless optimism

anyway, I think its passed time for them to step up and explain in some level of detail how these items are (as they claim) not going to give players an advantage.
I think gamers on the other hand should put the razer down and not always assume the worst 

I really like your style.

MaxBacon

TheScavenger said:

This is no longer different than Planet Entopia. Which btw also has space travel, ship mechanics and various planets you can go to.

A core difference actually.
The difference between forcing you to pay to get to play with it, or being able to earn it.

I remember Entropia selling land claims for 1k$ each, there's no earning that playing the game lol

Comparing both like you did is the most delusional statement I ever heard from you, one MMO with normal microtransactions to one cash MMO Casino.

Octagon7711

rpmcmurphy said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/7g7coj/when_you_think_cig_cannot_be_more_p2w/

Someone said be careful not to clip through the planet.