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LA Police Make Arrest in Tragic Hoax Case that Led to Swatting Death
TalulaRose
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"However, this comes with a tragic twist: The man killed was not involved in the dispute between the CoD players. The player who was the “target” of the offended player had provided the latter with a false address that led the police to Finch’s home."
All this guy had to do was nothing. And no one would be dead. The person who provided the false address should go to jail as well.
All this guy had to do was nothing. And no one would be dead. The person who provided the false address should go to jail as well.
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The police officer did not really act outside of his state given tasks. The victim sadly did something that from afar read as a hostile action. Given the situation. It was a logical action. Not right, but logical.
Now what is f.ed up is that nobody told the officers on the scene that the "guy" in front of them was still on the phone.. while standing in front of them.. without a phone. Not that it really matters.
Yeah... the guy making the cal should be dissolved in acid.. the guy giving the false address should pay recompense to the family of the guy shot and the police should really look over why it is so easy to spoof 911 calls.
This have been a good conversation
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The guy placing the call is the one that's 100% responsible. He wanted to do something illegal no matter what address he gave on the phone. I also question why the Police, when going to an address, felt it necessary to shoot someone. I mean, if randomly a bunch of cops in riot gear busts down my door while I'm sitting on the couch in my underwear eating Cheetos and watching Friends, are shouting a bunch of crap loudly and waving around shotguns -- I'm going to be a bit bewildered and confused. I probably can't understand what they are shouting (because hoorah), but that doesn't give them license to just shoot me because I can't figure out wtf they are doing in my house or who's going to pay for my front door to get fixed.
The guy who supplied an address, if he was an accomplice then yeah he shares some liability, but I can't imagine that being the case, as I understand the caller was intending to prank him.
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Thats a very good point and I do think it does matter.
It was pretty much a no win scenario. Had the guy actually had a gun where would have been dead cops, potentially bystanders.
I am sure the person who shot feel shit in every way one can.
This have been a good conversation
To which I honestly would have to say "Yes", and thus, Player B would indeed be partially liable for what happened. Even if Player B thought Player A wouldn't go through with it, any rational person would realize that Player A might POSSIBLY be serious with the threat. It's not like swatting is hard to do, nor is there anything that guarantees that Player A wouldn't do it. At the very least, Player B should have said to himself, "Wow, Player A is a real dumbass. He might actually do it." But in the end, despite having no proof that Player A wouldn't do it, Player B gave away an address and now a man at that address is dead.
I'm not sure if there's enough for the federal government to go after Player B, but I'm pretty sure there's at least enough for the victim's family to go after him in a civil case. After all, it was their address that he gave them, even if he did give an address at random.
Cops came, not sure what the procedure is for that? I mean if there is imminent danger shouldn't they charge the door? Anyway, somehow they got to him, all screaming at him to put his hands up. He apparently moved his hand near his waist area instead, and they shot him 1 time.
Unless you say that the police are straight lying, it couldn't go any other way than him getting shot. The one that set off the unfortunate chain of events is completely at fault.
Not sure why a cop would shoot a random guy otherwise, in front of all the other cops. And he wasn't black, if you are one who believes only unarmed black people get shot.
On the other hand, if the cops' story is true...why do people have such a hard time complying? What good is thinking "I didn't do any wrong, this is BS, I don't have to do anything you say" when you might be shot?
I did wonder why he gave that particular address. Was it random or was he giving himself a front row seat of swatting in case it happened? Did he know someone at the address he gave?
It's worth investigating anyway.
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Have you ever shot a gun before? It is super easy to miss from 10 feet away. Statistically speaking, cops hit a moving target about 14% of the time UNDER 10 feet. That's NOT an arm or leg, that's hitting anything.
Life is not a movie, in this case. It is extremely difficult to hit and arm or a leg when you want to. Add to the fact that if you do hit an arm or a leg, that doesn't mean they can't shoot you dead.
If you were a cop, I'm guessing you wouldn't bank on a (I'm guessing here too) less than 5% shot when your life is on the line.
I am not sure if this is considered politics or not, but generally speaking there are three laws I am aware of "Castle Law" "Stand Your Ground" "Duty To Retreat" Many people are not made aware of these laws or taught them in school, and if self-defense ever takes place or a person feels threatened they may end up in jail for many years and that isn't justice.
The problem here is that a person made a false call to police false calls should never be made, but regardless the cop shot them, and if the cop was me who thought someone who was breaking into my storage room was armed and I shot them I would end up in jail vs if a cop thought they were armed shot them and got away with it?
Police need to always be sure they are armed first before shooting someone, perhaps in a case of a hostage situation like this they should be trained with AR-15's with a scope to be sure unless this was SWAT at the house and if so there is no excuse for shooting someone on their own property for no reason at all because they could have been sure.
The second reason they teach that is because pistols can be inaccurate, nerves can make you more inaccurate, and there can be others around. The safest shot to take for a hit is the chest. Shoot for a limb and you're just endangering everything else around you.
For living that kind of life I do actually understand when an officer sees someone reaching for a waistband when being told to keep their hands up, they end up shooting. Should he wait for the split second it would take to be shot if there is a gun (if law says he has to, then so be it obviously). Now, if that is a fictional part of the narrative, then the cop is in the wrong too. No way the kid intentionally sending cops to a house for no reason should be unpunished. The VERY least would be making a false report/accusation.