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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    edited April 2018
    Asm0deus said:
    Scot said:
    I think "gaming" the system is what is commonly known as cheating, hopefully that's not the main thing posters take from this thread. It may not be forbidden, but doing good posts generates points. And somehow I think good posts may be what the forums are about.
    Pretty sure the way the system works once you get around 3 or 4 k post you're going to be purple regardless of the quality of posts.

    Which seems to me why one poster said something about agrees to lol ratio or something like that being a better indicator or quality.


    Personally I don't think it means diddly or denote anything about quality whether good or bad..
    As LOLs can be given as punitive or for genuinely being funny (something I often try to do) I think @Slapshot1188 was correct, insightful are probably better indicators of overall post quality and I would add in awesomes as well.

    Ugh, turning into a Monday morning math exercise.  ((Insightful^2 + awesome^3) / (SQRT LOL x inverse of Agree)) x 3.14

    BAH, being an EVE player what I really need to do this right is my Excel spreadsheet.

    ;)

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    Kyleran said:
    Asm0deus said:
    Scot said:
    I think "gaming" the system is what is commonly known as cheating, hopefully that's not the main thing posters take from this thread. It may not be forbidden, but doing good posts generates points. And somehow I think good posts may be what the forums are about.
    Pretty sure the way the system works once you get around 3 or 4 k post you're going to be purple regardless of the quality of posts.

    Which seems to me why one poster said something about agrees to lol ratio or something like that being a better indicator or quality.


    Personally I don't think it means diddly or denote anything about quality whether good or bad..
    As LOLs can be given as punitive or for genuinely being funny (something I often try to do) I think @Slapshot1188 was correct, insightful are probably better indicators of overall post quality and I would add in awesomes as well.

    Ugh, turning into a Monday morning math exercise.  ((Insightful^2 + awesome^3) / (SQRT LOL x inverse of Agree)) x 3.14

    BAH, being an EVE player what I really need to do this right is my Excel spreadsheet.

    ;)


    You know that if a game demands you use an excel spreadsheet its a little like full time employment, right? :)
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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,973
    Scot said:
    I think "gaming" the system is what is commonly known as cheating, hopefully that's not the main thing posters take from this thread. It may not be forbidden, but doing good posts generates points. And somehow I think good posts may be what the forums are about.
    No.

    We're gamers. We allow the devs, GMs, or in this case forums admins, to make decision on what the rules of the game are. But after GMs have made their decisions on what is allowed and what is not, it's in the spirit of being a gamer to optimize the hell out of that system.



    But I'm not actually planning to go into reaction trading. I just tried 20 because I wanted to see if it could be done. Then I got somehow caught up in this topic.
     
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,973
    Scot said:
    Kyleran said:
    Asm0deus said:
    Scot said:
    I think "gaming" the system is what is commonly known as cheating, hopefully that's not the main thing posters take from this thread. It may not be forbidden, but doing good posts generates points. And somehow I think good posts may be what the forums are about.
    Pretty sure the way the system works once you get around 3 or 4 k post you're going to be purple regardless of the quality of posts.

    Which seems to me why one poster said something about agrees to lol ratio or something like that being a better indicator or quality.


    Personally I don't think it means diddly or denote anything about quality whether good or bad..
    As LOLs can be given as punitive or for genuinely being funny (something I often try to do) I think @Slapshot1188 was correct, insightful are probably better indicators of overall post quality and I would add in awesomes as well.

    Ugh, turning into a Monday morning math exercise.  ((Insightful^2 + awesome^3) / (SQRT LOL x inverse of Agree)) x 3.14

    BAH, being an EVE player what I really need to do this right is my Excel spreadsheet.

    ;)


    You know that if a game demands you use an excel spreadsheet its a little like full time employment, right? :)
    That means his full time employment is a little like his favourite game?  :)
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    Vrika said:
    Scot said:
    I think "gaming" the system is what is commonly known as cheating, hopefully that's not the main thing posters take from this thread. It may not be forbidden, but doing good posts generates points. And somehow I think good posts may be what the forums are about.
    No.

    We're gamers. We allow the devs, GMs, or in this case forums admins, to make decision on what the rules of the game are. But after GMs have made their decisions on what is allowed and what is not, it's in the spirit of being a gamer to optimize the hell out of that system.



    But I'm not actually planning to go into reaction trading. I just tried 20 because I wanted to see if it could be done. Then I got somehow caught up in this topic.

    You do realise we are now having a MMO argument about the gameplay of a forum? ;)
    KyleranAlBQuirky
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    Kyleran said:

    Me: 114 agrees over 21 WTF                       = ~5:1
    @Sovrath: 2.1k agrees over 50 WTF             = ~40+
    @Not going to mention 20 agrees over 39 WTF           = ~0.5 ;(

    702 AGREE over 20 WTF... that's like 35:1.

    Wow, i'm good :P

    (sensing incoming WTFs on this post...)
    2200  Agrees, 80 WTFs    27.5.....  not so bad

    Now LOL's, I collect those like candy......955   2.3


    Insightfulsare weighted 10x an agree because it means you can provided info or an observation that the other person was not aware of!

    Agrees are for noobs

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  • MikeBMikeB Community ManagerAdministrator RarePosts: 6,555
    Vrika said:
    Asm0deus said:
    Vrika said:
    Asm0deus said:
    I wonder can the system be gamed? 

    I will give insightfuls to anyone that gives me some...lolz
    It looks like 1 lol gives you 1 point more. Giving 20 lols took something between 2-3 minutes, so raising you to Legendary would require between 3-5 hours of time.

    I sense an opportunity for Chinese power-lolling service.



    Every reaction seems to be worth the same (1 point). I couldn't test on what a Promote -reaction would be worth.

    It looks like quoting you isn't worth of any points.
    Oh wow you actually came and gave me 20 lols

    Hmm I might  be real busy tomorrow, when I get up, handing out returns!

    I am at 1073 points as of this post.

    EDIT: Just gave you 20 insightfuls Vrika
    Maybe it would be better to ask

    @MikeB is trading reactions or similar activity forbidden? I wouldn't want to get accidentally banned for doing something like this.
    Absolutely. Don't do this.
    Slapshot1188KyleranJamesGoblinVrikaGdemamiScot
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    MikeB said:
    Vrika said:
    Asm0deus said:
    Vrika said:
    Asm0deus said:
    I wonder can the system be gamed? 

    I will give insightfuls to anyone that gives me some...lolz
    It looks like 1 lol gives you 1 point more. Giving 20 lols took something between 2-3 minutes, so raising you to Legendary would require between 3-5 hours of time.

    I sense an opportunity for Chinese power-lolling service.



    Every reaction seems to be worth the same (1 point). I couldn't test on what a Promote -reaction would be worth.

    It looks like quoting you isn't worth of any points.
    Oh wow you actually came and gave me 20 lols

    Hmm I might  be real busy tomorrow, when I get up, handing out returns!

    I am at 1073 points as of this post.

    EDIT: Just gave you 20 insightfuls Vrika
    Maybe it would be better to ask

    @MikeB is trading reactions or similar activity forbidden? I wouldn't want to get accidentally banned for doing something like this.
    Absolutely. Don't do this.
    I just hit you up with an agree...
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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    Must resist .. im Severe already .. MUST RESIST :)
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,050
    MikeB said:
    Vrika said:
    Asm0deus said:
    Vrika said:
    Asm0deus said:
    I wonder can the system be gamed? 

    I will give insightfuls to anyone that gives me some...lolz
    It looks like 1 lol gives you 1 point more. Giving 20 lols took something between 2-3 minutes, so raising you to Legendary would require between 3-5 hours of time.

    I sense an opportunity for Chinese power-lolling service.



    Every reaction seems to be worth the same (1 point). I couldn't test on what a Promote -reaction would be worth.

    It looks like quoting you isn't worth of any points.
    Oh wow you actually came and gave me 20 lols

    Hmm I might  be real busy tomorrow, when I get up, handing out returns!

    I am at 1073 points as of this post.

    EDIT: Just gave you 20 insightfuls Vrika
    Maybe it would be better to ask

    @MikeB is trading reactions or similar activity forbidden? I wouldn't want to get accidentally banned for doing something like this.
    Absolutely. Don't do this.
    I just hit you up with an agree...
    Noob!

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    lahnmir said:
    MikeB said:
    Vrika said:
    Asm0deus said:
    Vrika said:
    Asm0deus said:
    I wonder can the system be gamed? 

    I will give insightfuls to anyone that gives me some...lolz
    It looks like 1 lol gives you 1 point more. Giving 20 lols took something between 2-3 minutes, so raising you to Legendary would require between 3-5 hours of time.

    I sense an opportunity for Chinese power-lolling service.



    Every reaction seems to be worth the same (1 point). I couldn't test on what a Promote -reaction would be worth.

    It looks like quoting you isn't worth of any points.
    Oh wow you actually came and gave me 20 lols

    Hmm I might  be real busy tomorrow, when I get up, handing out returns!

    I am at 1073 points as of this post.

    EDIT: Just gave you 20 insightfuls Vrika
    Maybe it would be better to ask

    @MikeB is trading reactions or similar activity forbidden? I wouldn't want to get accidentally banned for doing something like this.
    Absolutely. Don't do this.
    I just hit you up with an agree...
    Noob!

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    I know right? I gave Mike an insightful.  ;)
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    Torval said:
    I click reaction buttons like a madman. I like letting people know I've read their post. I've been trying to post less and click more. I rarely WTF people.
    I do that too sometimes.  Specifically if I find a point that seems to be lost in the shuffle of a trolling argument or a battle between white knights and haters.
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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,600
    edited April 2018
    MikeB said:
    Vrika said:
    Asm0deus said:
    Vrika said:
    Asm0deus said:
    I wonder can the system be gamed? 

    I will give insightfuls to anyone that gives me some...lolz
    It looks like 1 lol gives you 1 point more. Giving 20 lols took something between 2-3 minutes, so raising you to Legendary would require between 3-5 hours of time.

    I sense an opportunity for Chinese power-lolling service.



    Every reaction seems to be worth the same (1 point). I couldn't test on what a Promote -reaction would be worth.

    It looks like quoting you isn't worth of any points.
    Oh wow you actually came and gave me 20 lols

    Hmm I might  be real busy tomorrow, when I get up, handing out returns!

    I am at 1073 points as of this post.

    EDIT: Just gave you 20 insightfuls Vrika
    Maybe it would be better to ask

    @MikeB is trading reactions or similar activity forbidden? I wouldn't want to get accidentally banned for doing something like this.
    Absolutely. Don't do this.
    I just hit you up with an agree...
    Wait...so if I agree with something you said just after you agreed with me I am breaking forum rules?

    If so how long must I wait before I am allowed to agree back with you so it doesn't count as reaction trading?

    :dizzy:


    Torval said:
    I click reaction buttons like a madman. I like letting people know I've read their post. I've been trying to post less and click more. I rarely WTF people.


    Aye I often do this, I even use reactions in threads I am not interested in engaging in to show that I agree with such n such opinion etc
    Kyleran

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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,600
    edited April 2018
    Torval said:
    ...snip...
    I took that as he's referring to gaming the system, not the speed at which you respond back.
    Right but how to gauge or decide that so and so is "gaming" the system other than looking at who you give reactions too and if they give you some back?

    I mean how can a mod say or you're gaming the system rather than just agreeing with someone about something etc

    Crystal ball?

     I mean other than posting or making threads asking for reactions and saying you'll give some back it's pretty hard to be able to police that kind of thing which is why most forums with a "reputation system" has a limit on how much you can give out per day/week etc.

    For example in the Elite Dangerous forums you can rep posters, which makes their "green bar bigger" but you can only rep them once per so much time or somesuch, not quite sure what the mechanics are tbh.

    Say I was in those forum and repped you Torval for some such comment you made I would then be unable for quite a few days to rep you again and would get a "you must spread more reputation around before you can rep Torval again" message.




    Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.





  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,600
    edited April 2018
    Torval said:
    Asm0deus said:
    Torval said:
    ...snip...
    I took that as he's referring to gaming the system, not the speed at which you respond back.
    Right but how to gauge or decide or so and so is "gaming" the system other than looking at who you give reactions too and if the give you some back?

    I mean how can a mod say or you're gaming the system rather than just agreeing with someone about something etc

    Crystal ball?  I mean other than say or make threads asking for reaction and saying you'll give some back is pretty hard to be able to police that kind of thing which is why most forums with a "reputation system" has a limit on how much you can give out per day/week etc


    Okay, but that's an entirely different question. I'm not a mod. I wouldn't know or care since I have no plans on trying to game the system. As is it means anything other than "fun" anyway.
    I wasn't asking you the question but since you interjected yourself to kind of reply I was just explaining to you what I meant by my previous post.

    I understand he was talking about gaming the system but how can he accurately gauge such a thing....I don't think it really possible unless someone is really obvious about it like I was a few posts ago though that was said in jest more than anything else.....






    Post edited by Asm0deus on

    Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.





  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 3,223
    Scot said:
    Kyleran said:
    Asm0deus said:
    ;)


    You know that if a game demands you use an excel spreadsheet its a little like full time employment, right? :)
    That's what made EVE Fun, the fact that you needed to do that. My operation in 2007-2008 was 1 billion isk per week operation but very easy. I was in some region where the mobs gave you crystals or something to refine. So i'd buy all the mats on buy orders at like 50-75% the cost and then pay a corp mate to ship it up to Jita and hand it over to my other guy. 

    I didn't keep an excel sheet because i didn't care to maximize my profit given my margin was so bloody high. I ended up quitting the game and giving away most of my billions and sold the account I had for $400. 
    Catch me streaming at twitch.tv/cryomatrix
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  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,034
    They let anyone into the purple club now adays ;-)
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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Maybe its time for a new Avatar


    MadFrenchie[Deleted User]Scot

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    laserit said:
    Maybe its time for a new Avatar



    I had thought of using a tint to make my blackish blue leather armour look purple. But not sure Faramir or indeed Tolkien would approve of the lore change. :)
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