They have just hired two more engineers though so hopefully we will see some better progress
Did they hire actual engineers or interns? I haven’t followed closely but I thought they were just getting some free/low cost college interns.
Engineers? Are we certain they are hiring software engineers and not civil engineers? With this group, I think I do have to wonder. We've seen how that worked for Jane Foster.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
They have just hired two more engineers though so hopefully we will see some better progress
Did they hire actual engineers or interns? I haven’t followed closely but I thought they were just getting some free/low cost college interns.
Engineers? Are we certain they are hiring software engineers and not civil engineers? With this group, I think I do have to wonder. We've seen how that worked for Jane Foster.
They have just hired two more engineers though so hopefully we will see some better progress
Did they hire actual engineers or interns? I haven’t followed closely but I thought they were just getting some free/low cost college interns.
Engineers? Are we certain they are hiring software engineers and not civil engineers? With this group, I think I do have to wonder. We've seen how that worked for Jane Foster.
So... since @Ungood asked that we move the discussion I figured here was a good spot.
To summarize: The current Kickstarter Anniversary sale consists of stretch goals that lead to opening up more items for sale. Most games I have seen use these as a reward for backers. Kind of like "Hey, if you hit the $100k goal we will give you a free pet. Not THESE guys. Their stretch goals are that if you hit the $100k goal they will put a new item in the store for you to buy!
That is a pretty crazy concept. They even are pulling out all the stops by putting "retired" packages and items back in the store. Remember the Count package? (Spend $1000 to buy yourself a Count title, population center, etc... well it's back despite having been retired).
But that's not all!
They have gone even further down the Pay 4 Advantage road now. -----
Old Soul$350,000
When they say you must have an old soul, they'll be right. This soul has lived more than one lifetime in Elyria and comes to you with the experience and skill ramps to prove it.
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Special Title:"The Venerable" - There's just something about you that seems to go way back. Maybe you've got wisdom beyond your years or your lineage goes way back but, either way, you're unmistakable! Effect: All your fame gained is increased by 10% for the character this title is used on.
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So... the 3 month Headstart for high roller backers was always going to give them a big edge in game, but now they guarantee an "Old Soul" so those same people can start up one (or more) lifetimes ahead of others. And when you die you just start with an even greater skill ramp. So this advantage can never be lost.
Then the Title is just icing on the cake.
What is interesting though is that they seem to be hitting a slowdown. They may not actually hit the Old Soul tier. But I'm sure it will be offered again And who knows, their "Kings" may just decide to plop down even more cash at the last minute just to hit the goal.
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Well in all fairness, they are never going to get this game made without additional funding, which is going to have to come from the backers until some other investor shows up.
Their post launch business model doesn't include selling these advantages which I feel is a big mistake, but I'm not building this game.
Take a hard read of the recent Portalarium public filing for a really insightful look at how it was funded and will continue to be, quite a few good parallels / portents to the possible future for COE.
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So... since @Ungood asked that we move the discussion I figured here was a good spot.
Now.. see that was not so hard was it, to post where something was relevant.. and look, you have minions calling me a troll, you must be so proud, you're are really moving up in the world I guess.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
So... since @Ungood asked that we move the discussion I figured here was a good spot.
Now.. see that was not so hard was it, to post where something was relevant.. and look, you have minions calling me a troll, you must be so proud, you're are really moving up in the world I guess.
Two things, 1) I never actually used the word troll, you assumed that from my comment. 2) I am not and never have been slapshot's minion, in fact I've disagreed, more than I agreed with him.
What makes you feel like you're not being played old fella, but yer the one that defended his Derailment of another thread..
But since you like to play that kind of game, I never called you a minion.
In fact, I didn't mention you at all, you assumed that.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
They were going to be in alpha after a year? Give it another two years to launch.
I doubt they will even have all the systems designed up in a year, much less implemented in a compatible manner, it make an Alpha.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
What makes you feel like you're not being played old fella, but yer the one that defended his Derailment of another thread.. so.. if find offence in being called a minion.. perhaps you prefer being one of his cronies.
Not my place to call people names.. that is what you do.
Lol your funny... You criticise him for attempted derailment and now your doing the same here because it's the right thread and you have nothing else to use to distract ppl.
They were going to be in alpha after a year? Give it another two years to launch.
Yes indeed they said that, and reevaluated their estimates when it became obvious it wasn't going to be on time (let's be honest who thought it would be).
Also two years to release might still be optimistic...
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But to be honest I scanned and thought... meh
Hmmm... mebbe replacing SpatialOS with cobbled-together 3rd-party apps is proving to be a bit more tricky than Jeromy thought...
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I'm certain it's neither.
Engineering Interns...
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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To summarize: The current Kickstarter Anniversary sale consists of stretch goals that lead to opening up more items for sale. Most games I have seen use these as a reward for backers. Kind of like "Hey, if you hit the $100k goal we will give you a free pet. Not THESE guys. Their stretch goals are that if you hit the $100k goal they will put a new item in the store for you to buy!
That is a pretty crazy concept. They even are pulling out all the stops by putting "retired" packages and items back in the store. Remember the Count package? (Spend $1000 to buy yourself a Count title, population center, etc... well it's back despite having been retired).
But that's not all!
They have gone even further down the Pay 4 Advantage road now.
-----
Old Soul$350,000
When they say you must have an old soul, they'll be right. This soul has lived more than one lifetime in Elyria and comes to you with the experience and skill ramps to prove it.
------
Special Title: "The Venerable" - There's just something about you that seems to go way back. Maybe you've got wisdom beyond your years or your lineage goes way back but, either way, you're unmistakable!
Effect: All your fame gained is increased by 10% for the character this title is used on.
------
So... the 3 month Headstart for high roller backers was always going to give them a big edge in game, but now they guarantee an "Old Soul" so those same people can start up one (or more) lifetimes ahead of others. And when you die you just start with an even greater skill ramp. So this advantage can never be lost.
Then the Title is just icing on the cake.
What is interesting though is that they seem to be hitting a slowdown. They may not actually hit the Old Soul tier. But I'm sure it will be offered again
And who knows, their "Kings" may just decide to plop down even more cash at the last minute just to hit the goal.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Well in all fairness, they are never going to get this game made without additional funding, which is going to have to come from the backers until some other investor shows up.
Their post launch business model doesn't include selling these advantages which I feel is a big mistake, but I'm not building this game.
Take a hard read of the recent Portalarium public filing for a really insightful look at how it was funded and will continue to be, quite a few good parallels / portents to the possible future for COE.
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Well, at least its limited to one character per account
Also noticed the pack with one "old soul", that is a solid advantage worth having.
Camping pack looks like it might impart some useful benefits, hard to be sure from the brief descriptions.
The store "unlock" tiers are just weird, "if players give us enough money, we'll give them the "priviledge" to buy something else in the store."
Thank you sir, may I have another?
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Then they expect players to thank them for the "priviledge. "
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Just look at the folks chomping at the bit to play Bless when it comes out.
Not that I am trying to derail this into a convo about Bless, or we'll be likely admonished.
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1) I never actually used the word troll, you assumed that from my comment.
2) I am not and never have been slapshot's minion, in fact I've disagreed, more than I agreed with him.
But since you like to play that kind of game, I never called you a minion.
In fact, I didn't mention you at all, you assumed that.
You criticise him for attempted derailment and now your doing the same here because it's the right thread and you have nothing else to use to distract ppl.
Anyway let's avoid continuing this derailment.
Scot said: Yes indeed they said that, and reevaluated their estimates when it became obvious it wasn't going to be on time (let's be honest who thought it would be).
Also two years to release might still be optimistic...