How does an xp booster qualify as p2w??? How many times have i leveled a character in an mmo f that noise. Its a convenience item. Help speed things along. Hell why don't we say 2 day headstart with founders pack is P2W also, since it will give a 2 day advantage.
While I have no issues with xp boosters, let's look at it logically.
Take a game where level is part of power. Now have people leveling like crazy so they can get as high as possible as quickly as possible. The guy who uses an xp booster is going to level faster. He is going to be more powerful more quickly.
If they sell xp boosters for money then that is going to give advantage "for money".
Albeit a temporary advantage. But then again, if what they mentioned about cash currency being earnable in game, it's possible just about anyone can obtain a boost depending on the cost.
Unless the XP boost is an inherent boost for premium subscribers only. Or if that premium sub base gets an additional boosted XP gain over a purchasable cash shop boost.
At end-game , level is pretty meaningless though.
Its only temporary in the sense that its until they reach, or everyone else at least, also reaches max level, where level difference gives you an advantage in PVP then XP boosters are both desirable and P2W, particularly if you can afford it.
Taking an xp potion not only increases your level but also enables you to get to higher content faster thus allowing you to also be better geared. Look at Aion and every other pvp game where level and gear dictate power.
Taking an xp potion is not an isolated mechanic that has no effect on the game as a whole.
I think some are being purposely obtuse in this discussion.
Pve...who cares. I never have viewed pve as some competition.
So then every game is P2W then. You buy it first, you win.
I was watching video of this the other day and it looks really bland, I can't see this game making it
I think I said this elsewhere, but that combat looks far, far from exciting or new or what have you. Yeah it looked like the game/combat had a little 'weight' but it meant little. I thought it was a tad slow, if you ask me, and although I don't like the word 'generic' I think it may apply here.
This is P2W because every sec you kill mobs you get 20% gold, you have advantage compare to non paid player. If you can't buy in the cash shop or access without paying for real money or that item is only in the cash shop it is P2W. Tradeable item or not if you get advantage it is P2W.
- Adds 20% more Hunting experience points
- Acquires 20% more Dungeon points
- Adds 20% hunting gold bonus
- Allows 5 more items to be registered on the market
- Reduces market tax by 10%
- Increases daily activity point exchange amount by 20%
This is P2W because every sec you kill mobs you get 20% gold, you have advantage compare to non paid player. If you can't buy in the cash shop or access without paying for real money or that item is only in the cash shop it is P2W. Tradeable item or not if you get advantage it is P2W.
- Adds 20% more Hunting experience points
- Acquires 20% more Dungeon points
- Adds 20% hunting gold bonus
- Allows 5 more items to be registered on the market
- Reduces market tax by 10%
- Increases daily activity point exchange amount by 20%
time will always outweigh what others pay for. Not pay 2 win.
This is P2W because every sec you kill mobs you get 20% gold, you have advantage compare to non paid player. If you can't buy in the cash shop or access without paying for real money or that item is only in the cash shop it is P2W. Tradeable item or not if you get advantage it is P2W.
- Adds 20% more Hunting experience points
- Acquires 20% more Dungeon points
- Adds 20% hunting gold bonus
- Allows 5 more items to be registered on the market
- Reduces market tax by 10%
- Increases daily activity point exchange amount by 20%
time will always outweigh what others pay for. Not pay 2 win.
try playing bdo and saying that. Granted, that isn't to say i think Bless will be nearly as overly p2w as BDO is...but time doesn't always trump the wallet
I want to play Bless just to see how many PVE pots get purchased and what the nickname for them will be. I'm going to call them Carebeers to see if it catches.
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This is P2W because every sec you kill mobs you get 20% gold, you have advantage compare to non paid player. If you can't buy in the cash shop or access without paying for real money or that item is only in the cash shop it is P2W. Tradeable item or not if you get advantage it is P2W.
- Adds 20% more Hunting experience points
- Acquires 20% more Dungeon points
- Adds 20% hunting gold bonus
- Allows 5 more items to be registered on the market
- Reduces market tax by 10%
- Increases daily activity point exchange amount by 20%
time will always outweigh what others pay for. Not pay 2 win.
try playing bdo and saying that. Granted, that isn't to say i think Bless will be nearly as overly p2w as BDO is...but time doesn't always trump the wallet
I meant in terms of Bless. BDO didn't interest me. There are games with cash shops that are pay 2 win, but in the terms of Bless, if you play more than the person that pays, the boosts won't be relevant.
I want to play Bless just to see how many PVE pots get purchased and what the nickname for them will be. I'm going to call them Carebeers to see if it catches.
I'm interested to see how they actually work.
Will the PVP avoidance take effect immediately on consumption, so that a player can keep them hot keyed for the first sign of danger or is there are timer before immunity begins?
Can the player pop one even if in the middle of combat, effectively ending the fight even if they were the aggressor?
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This is P2W because every sec you kill mobs you get 20% gold, you have advantage compare to non paid player. If you can't buy in the cash shop or access without paying for real money or that item is only in the cash shop it is P2W. Tradeable item or not if you get advantage it is P2W.
- Adds 20% more Hunting experience points
- Acquires 20% more Dungeon points
- Adds 20% hunting gold bonus
- Allows 5 more items to be registered on the market
- Reduces market tax by 10%
- Increases daily activity point exchange amount by 20%
This is P2W because every sec you kill mobs you get 20% gold, you have advantage compare to non paid player. If you can't buy in the cash shop or access without paying for real money or that item is only in the cash shop it is P2W. Tradeable item or not if you get advantage it is P2W.
- Adds 20% more Hunting experience points
- Acquires 20% more Dungeon points
- Adds 20% hunting gold bonus
- Allows 5 more items to be registered on the market
- Reduces market tax by 10%
- Increases daily activity point exchange amount by 20%
That doesn't really sound that gamebreaking.
Personally, i think people understate the market bonuses(10% tax and the 5 extra registered items). Overtime, that's going to translate into quite the bit of currency for those who have it over those who don't.
Time will tell on the dungeon points/daily activity point exchange. All depends what you can buy with the gametime sourced lumena.
So during the PRESS play test,they made sure to have the cash shop empty and you believe what they are telling you? haha.
The PRESS knows that if they don't play NICE they don't get anymore calls from the developers,a really sad reality for gamer's who want ACCURATE game news and reviews not biased or partnered ones.
It is like your neighbor invites you over for super then asks.."how was the food"your not going to give them a truthful answer,you will say,oh it was pretty good or some bullshit.
You didn't read any of the articles did you?
Never does, never stops him from commenting either. Nobody who has a functional brain cell pays him any mind though.
He reminds me of the Seinfeld Car dealership episode when George is trying to finger the mechanic that stole his Twix. No, he isn't one of the main characters. He is the service manager's geriatric father who sits in the waiting room all day babbling nonsense to every new customer that enters. Nobody actually listens to him. Just shake their head and move on.
I want to play Bless just to see how many PVE pots get purchased and what the nickname for them will be. I'm going to call them Carebeers to see if it catches.
I want to play Bless just to see how many PVE pots get purchased and what the nickname for them will be. I'm going to call them Carebeers to see if it catches.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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I want to play Bless just to see how many PVE pots get purchased and what the nickname for them will be. I'm going to call them Carebeers to see if it catches.
I want to play Bless just to see how many PVE pots get purchased and what the nickname for them will be. I'm going to call them Carebeers to see if it catches.
I prefer to call them estrogen injections ;-)
Or better yet, psychopath repellent....
How about 'a waste of money' ?
Well, as this will be the 4th go around for this title I assume they keep them in the game as they are a popular and profitable item.
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A lot of ado about XP bonuses. Other games have offered a premium membership with an XP bonus including ESO. I haven't heard many, if any at all, people complain about it.
An allotment of crowns to spend in the new in-game Crown Store based on your membership period (more below)
Access to all of ESO’s downloadable content (or DLC) game packs for the duration of your membership
A 10% bonus to XP and gold gain, crafting research, and inspiration
Why the big deal over that? Even games that offer premium currency in effect offer XP boosts since potions and shop items that increase XP gains can be purchased.
I've heard people complain about that in several games I know do the XP bonuses.
I've heard a ton of things in Black Desert Online being vehemently accused of being pay to win including the xp thing.
Since people are still arguing over what actually is or isn't pay to win, all you can really say is if you pay for it it, and it gives any kind of boost, it's P2W. While if you pay for it and it's strictly cosmetic, it might still be pay to win depending on the specific mechanics. (Anything that makes you harder to see when PvP for instance. You know what I'm talking about.)
I want to play Bless just to see how many PVE pots get purchased and what the nickname for them will be. I'm going to call them Carebeers to see if it catches.
I prefer to call them estrogen injections ;-)
Or better yet, psychopath repellent....
How about 'a waste of money' ?
Well, as this will be the 4th go around for this title I assume they keep them in the game as they are a popular and profitable item.
Choose the sociopath option, join the fray, and hunt the psychopaths. You know, like Dexter.
Hmm i like it. He kills, but he saves more than he kills!
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- Adds 20% more Hunting experience points
- Acquires 20% more Dungeon points
- Adds 20% hunting gold bonus
- Allows 5 more items to be registered on the market
- Reduces market tax by 10%
- Increases daily activity point exchange amount by 20%
- Adds 20% more Hunting experience points
- Acquires 20% more Dungeon points
- Adds 20% hunting gold bonus
- Allows 5 more items to be registered on the market
- Reduces market tax by 10%
- Increases daily activity point exchange amount by 20%
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Will the PVP avoidance take effect immediately on consumption, so that a player can keep them hot keyed for the first sign of danger or is there are timer before immunity begins?
Can the player pop one even if in the middle of combat, effectively ending the fight even if they were the aggressor?
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Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
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I've heard a ton of things in Black Desert Online being vehemently accused of being pay to win including the xp thing.
Since people are still arguing over what actually is or isn't pay to win, all you can really say is if you pay for it it, and it gives any kind of boost, it's P2W. While if you pay for it and it's strictly cosmetic, it might still be pay to win depending on the specific mechanics. (Anything that makes you harder to see when PvP for instance. You know what I'm talking about.)
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