Bioware was all about a compelling story, even from the first trailer the story sucked you in. Now, it might as well be a trailer for Destiny 3. RIP Bioware. You're dancing with the devil in the full moonlight...
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
So many forget the industry standard was set by Quake and Unreal and we played multiplayer for FREE as should be.Now devs are adding login screens for the sole purpose of microtransactions.
I doubt one single person believes this game won't have any microtransactions,really sad to see devs gouging for more money but putting in weak efforts.
Bioware?Never thought much of them past the early days of Baldur's gate.Even still BG was imo only good because they gave the characters great personalities,the actual gameplay was ho hum.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
If someone can come in on day 1 with a fat wallet and buy a load of upgrades straight away, then it's definitely a pay to win aspect.. even if you can, slowly, earn them through gameplay anyway. Someone who dumps cash on the game will be more powerful than you at the start.
That's exactly what that screenshot suggests is happening.
In all fairness that's screenshot from another game. I should have stated that, oops.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
Honestly, I'm not impressed. It just seems so...flat somehow. This is the first game that BioWare has ever made that I am going to pass on. Watching gameplay was "eh".
Makes me pretty sad. BioWare was always my go-to for great action ROLEPLAYING games. This just doesn't give me that vibe. So...whatevs. I'll wait and see.
Yeah it is a pretty sad day when your favorite developer will be releasing a game which you have zero interest in. The thing that irks me the most is that when you look at Anthem you can really see how much better the artwork is for that game over other titles that they have made. It is leaps and bounds a better looking,crafted game. We all can see the effort, resources and the love and care was put into the game. Which only shows that it was Bioware's number one project over SWTOR and Andromeda.
If someone can come in on day 1 with a fat wallet and buy a load of upgrades straight away, then it's definitely a pay to win aspect.. even if you can, slowly, earn them through gameplay anyway. Someone who dumps cash on the game will be more powerful than you at the start.
That's exactly what that screenshot suggests is happening.
In all fairness that's screenshot from another game. I should have stated that, oops.
Oh, ok. lol. The infiltrator text made me think it was Anthem.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
They will still sell 3 million more units than the number of likes you generate by hating on them.
But I'm sure you will be here to tell us how many concurrent players they have at 3,6,12 months and at every yearly anniversary. I mean why play video games when you get upvotes and likes for hating them and watching the population of the games you hate right?
The announcement Seemed a little underwhelming- but still awesome. then i saw this vid and it hyped me up again. If there are skill levels including legendaries- the blizzard fanboi in me just perks up from hearing the word. Next best thing would be if there is some kind of talent system.
Im already sold on a shooter with jet packs and a class system with a loot grind. Even if it just the child of warframe and destiny. Never got to far into warframe and not really super big into first person shooter- this is the perfect storm that will keep me entertained when BFA starts getting stale. Only thing that could really get me to not play this would be diablo 4 coming out in early February .
Btw- im not butthurt by where battlefront 2 touched me. Tbh- anthem could turn out to be pay 2 win and id probably still play it. I mean, its not a mmo - so its not like im competing with anyone anyways. Prolly will just play solo or with my bro.
Honestly, I'm not impressed. It just seems so...flat somehow. This is the first game that BioWare has ever made that I am going to pass on. Watching gameplay was "eh".
Makes me pretty sad. BioWare was always my go-to for great action ROLEPLAYING games. This just doesn't give me that vibe. So...whatevs. I'll wait and see.
Agreed, I think the last bioware sighting was Dragon Age Origins, Mass Effect 1, and maybe hit and miss in 2.. Sometimes I think I'm seeing them here and there in ME 3, or DAI, but ultimately I think it's just a mirage in the desert playing with my head.
Regardless of whether you liked the other DAs or MEs whenever they used to announce a new one in those series they always highlighted story and setting. Like I said, with Anthem I have no clue where you are or why you're fighting. Story promotion = 0.
That is just such a difference from the traditional Bioware way of promoting that I would never know it was a Bioware game if they didn't use logo.
I don't think EA has ever been totally convinced that roleplaying in games is a money spinner. they see it as very hit or miss. A huge investment for a risky return.
I am as always taking Anthem for what it is, who makes it does not matter to me. I like what I see, but that may have very little bearing on what we get. As always wait for the reviews.
The one thing I did find rather odd, is that outside their sanctuaries they always have their helmets on. That means we do not get to see faces, I applaud the realism but it defies entertainment principles. We must always see the face, does not matter if it is film or gaming, it is a stupid principle in my eyes but one religiously adhered to.
As the writers create the world the face rule is not always obvious. It is in film and TV treatments of other media where it becomes obvious. So Spiderman can't wait to take his mask off even when fighting villains (oh it got damaged again...right), same for Ironman etc. Thor does not wear a helmet.
So the principle is as soon as you can get the helmet or mask off, my guess is that they are not ready to show faces in combat for development reasons and that will come later with an "invisible helmet" tick box.
After the way they handled the loot in the last Star Wars game cannot recall the name I am very leery of what scheme they will employ in this game. Not buying it until I see the reviews. Even then I will wait until the price drops.
I am pretty certain they will devise a way to make players pay real money for loot.
The one thing I did find rather odd, is that outside their sanctuaries they always have their helmets on. That means we do not get to see faces, I applaud the realism but it defies entertainment principles. We must always see the face, does not matter if it is film or gaming, it is a stupid principle in my eyes but one religiously adhered to.
As the writers create the world the face rule is not always obvious. It is in film and TV treatments of other media where it becomes obvious. So Spiderman can't wait to take his mask off even when fighting villains (oh it got damaged again...right), same for Ironman etc. Thor does not wear a helmet.
So the principle is as soon as you can get the helmet or mask off, my guess is that they are not ready to show faces in combat for development reasons and that will come later with an "invisible helmet" tick box.
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Darth Vader, C3-PO, Boba Fett (RotJ), Judge Dredd (the Dredd version, not the Stalone version), Wilson (Home Improvement), V (V For Vendetta).
Certain people think you have to show the face, including people responsible for making that very decision, but as you can see, it's not entirely true.
The buy-in to this game's world seems a lot easier to swallow than Destiny's. Frostbite is also gorgeous, as usual. With BioWare at the helm, it has me more keen to try it then with Bungie at the helm. I have purchased both Destiny and Destiny 2, but both were on the Playstation. Anthem actually looks somewhat enticing for the PC. The absolute biggest drawback and deterrent for this is actually not related to the game at all...but the fact that it will launch on Origin. I hate Origin.
I am really hyped to play this, but I will likely wait a couple weeks after launch to make sure it's not a "pretty face but empty head" kind of situation.
Honestly, I'm not impressed. It just seems so...flat somehow. This is the first game that BioWare has ever made that I am going to pass on. Watching gameplay was "eh".
Makes me pretty sad. BioWare was always my go-to for great action ROLEPLAYING games. This just doesn't give me that vibe. So...whatevs. I'll wait and see.
Agreed, I think the last bioware sighting was Dragon Age Origins, Mass Effect 1, and maybe hit and miss in 2.. Sometimes I think I'm seeing them here and there in ME 3, or DAI, but ultimately I think it's just a mirage in the desert playing with my head.
Regardless of whether you liked the other DAs or MEs whenever they used to announce a new one in those series they always highlighted story and setting. Like I said, with Anthem I have no clue where you are or why you're fighting. Story promotion = 0.
That is just such a difference from the traditional Bioware way of promoting that I would never know it was a Bioware game if they didn't use logo.
I don't think EA has ever been totally convinced that roleplaying in games is a money spinner. they see it as very hit or miss. A huge investment for a risky return.
I am as always taking Anthem for what it is, who makes it does not matter to me. I like what I see, but that may have very little bearing on what we get. As always wait for the reviews.
I play games. I don't make them or invest in them. My perspective when judging a game has nothing to do with whether a company would be wiser to invest its money on something that gives them a better ROI with less risk.
RPGs and MMORPGS are my primary gaming interest or I wouldn't be here right now. If Bioware won't be making those any more, well that's where I get off the Bioware fan train.
I have always been a Bioware fan because of their focus on strong RPGs, their stories and lore. Their history of focusing on RPGs is the only reason I even paid any attention to Anthem in the first place. Shooters are not in my wheelhouse unless they are primarily RPGs with shooter action mechanics in the game play.
My point in my previous posts, if it wasn't clear, is all about the fact that this is looking like a significant departure for them in making a game where RPG, story and lore is not their primary focus: looking cool, flying and blowing shit up is. At least that's what I'm seeing from what they have shown so far. I see a Destiny clone and that is the type of game I almost always give a hard pass to - lootbox shenanigans or no lootboxes - unless I'm really, really bored.
Whether you like this type of game or not is irrelevant in the context of whether this is the type of game that they are known for doing best. They're making something quite different from their traditional games which ironically, should appeal more to the many Bioware haters out there, not their fans. I don't see any need for the alt right to hate and campaign against this one, do you?
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
This game is targetted at a demographic including those who play Destiny obviously but also, I suspect, those who played Titanfall maybe. For I get a hint of Titanfall in the trailer. Maybe there will be a Monster Hunter style as well!
And imo if - if - the trailer is accurate it looks to me like the game will deliver.
Will it deliver "more"? A complex narrative perhaps? Well it might surprise us but I can understand why that is not what the trailer is showcasing. Story or the lack of being - arguably - something the target demographic seems capable of overlooking providing the game delivers on decent gameplay, framerates, graphics and so forth. So its not surprising if the trailer doesn't make a big deal about it.
I can lament that. I can hope the game does have a "story" - especially as stories are something that people can invest in. And bring people back - purchasing follow on content.
And the Harry Potter / LotR / Star Wars films should all have been made at once and we should only have had to pay once approach - nah. Well the same goes for games. Now value for money is a different matter but the concept is fine.
Nor is this Bioware - there is a Bioware tradition but the people who made those games are all (or mostly) gone. Companies change. Studios are bought, closed, relocated. opened. People leave, new people are hired. Same with EA and Blizzard. Its possible for companies not to change but its rare and usually there will be some constant involved to act as an anchor. The company that made Anthem is no more Bioware of old than EA is.
So I take it for what it is. I hope it delivers for its target demographic and makes EA a lot of money. Maybe I should say that again: a lot of money. Why? For then EA might feel able to pursue the "less popular" deep story driven narrative stuff - perhaps expanding the capabilities of their game engine. Games that are more likely to appeal more to moi. And clearly some other posters in this thread. Stuff which might not make them as much money perhaps. Otherwise they might always be chasing "the popular" "in your face" stuff and never get around to the Oscar winner type stuff that rarely seems to do well at the box office. (Although I will say that this years winner - The Shape of Water - was superb and worthy of both.)
This game is targetted at a demographic including those who play Destiny obviously but also, I suspect, those who played Titanfall maybe. For I get a hint of Titanfall in the trailer. Maybe there will be a Monster Hunter style as well!
And imo if - if - the trailer is accurate it looks to me like the game will deliver.
Will it deliver "more"? A complex narrative perhaps? Well it might surprise us but I can understand why that is not what the trailer is showcasing. Story or the lack of being - arguably - something the target demographic seems capable of overlooking providing the game delivers on decent gameplay, framerates, graphics and so forth. So its not surprising if the trailer doesn't make a big deal about it.
I can lament that. I can hope the game does have a "story" - especially as stories are something that people can invest in. And bring people back - purchasing follow on content.
And the Harry Potter / LotR / Star Wars films should all have been made at once and we should only have had to pay once approach - nah. Well the same goes for games. Now value for money is a different matter but the concept is fine.
Nor is this Bioware - there is a Bioware tradition but the people who made those games are all (or mostly) gone. Companies change. Studios are bought, closed, relocated. opened. People leave, new people are hired. Same with EA and Blizzard. Its possible for companies not to change but its rare and usually there will be some constant involved to act as an anchor. The company that made Anthem is no more Bioware of old than EA is.
So I take it for what it is. I hope it delivers for its target demographic and makes EA a lot of money. Maybe I should say that again: a lot of money. Why? For then EA might feel able to pursue the "less popular" deep story driven narrative stuff - perhaps expanding the capabilities of their game engine. Games that are more likely to appeal more to moi. And clearly some other posters in this thread. Stuff which might not make them as much money perhaps. Otherwise they might always be chasing "the popular" "in your face" stuff and never get around to the Oscar winner type stuff that rarely seems to do well at the box office. (Although I will say that this years winner - The Shape of Water - was superb and worthy of both.)
Blech. That movie was like watching paint dry lol.
This game is targetted at a demographic including those who play Destiny obviously but also, I suspect, those who played Titanfall maybe. For I get a hint of Titanfall in the trailer. Maybe there will be a Monster Hunter style as well!
And imo if - if - the trailer is accurate it looks to me like the game will deliver.
Will it deliver "more"? A complex narrative perhaps? Well it might surprise us but I can understand why that is not what the trailer is showcasing. Story or the lack of being - arguably - something the target demographic seems capable of overlooking providing the game delivers on decent gameplay, framerates, graphics and so forth. So its not surprising if the trailer doesn't make a big deal about it.
I can lament that. I can hope the game does have a "story" - especially as stories are something that people can invest in. And bring people back - purchasing follow on content.
And the Harry Potter / LotR / Star Wars films should all have been made at once and we should only have had to pay once approach - nah. Well the same goes for games. Now value for money is a different matter but the concept is fine.
Nor is this Bioware - there is a Bioware tradition but the people who made those games are all (or mostly) gone. Companies change. Studios are bought, closed, relocated. opened. People leave, new people are hired. Same with EA and Blizzard. Its possible for companies not to change but its rare and usually there will be some constant involved to act as an anchor. The company that made Anthem is no more Bioware of old than EA is.
So I take it for what it is. I hope it delivers for its target demographic and makes EA a lot of money. Maybe I should say that again: a lot of money. Why? For then EA might feel able to pursue the "less popular" deep story driven narrative stuff - perhaps expanding the capabilities of their game engine. Games that are more likely to appeal more to moi. And clearly some other posters in this thread. Stuff which might not make them as much money perhaps. Otherwise they might always be chasing "the popular" "in your face" stuff and never get around to the Oscar winner type stuff that rarely seems to do well at the box office. (Although I will say that this years winner - The Shape of Water - was superb and worthy of both.)
Blech. That movie was like watching paint dry lol.
But I agree with the rest.
I agree. I thought it was too melodramatic. Three Billboards should have won.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
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"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
I doubt one single person believes this game won't have any microtransactions,really sad to see devs gouging for more money but putting in weak efforts.
Bioware?Never thought much of them past the early days of Baldur's gate.Even still BG was imo only good because they gave the characters great personalities,the actual gameplay was ho hum.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
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"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
Yeah it is a pretty sad day when your favorite developer will be releasing a game which you have zero interest in. The thing that irks me the most is that when you look at Anthem you can really see how much better the artwork is for that game over other titles that they have made. It is leaps and bounds a better looking,crafted game. We all can see the effort, resources and the love and care was put into the game. Which only shows that it was Bioware's number one project over SWTOR and Andromeda.
But I'm sure you will be here to tell us how many concurrent players they have at 3,6,12 months and at every yearly anniversary. I mean why play video games when you get upvotes and likes for hating them and watching the population of the games you hate right?
The announcement Seemed a little underwhelming- but still awesome. then i saw this vid and it hyped me up again. If there are skill levels including legendaries- the blizzard fanboi in me just perks up from hearing the word. Next best thing would be if there is some kind of talent system.
Im already sold on a shooter with jet packs and a class system with a loot grind. Even if it just the child of warframe and destiny. Never got to far into warframe and not really super big into first person shooter- this is the perfect storm that will keep me entertained when BFA starts getting stale. Only thing that could really get me to not play this would be diablo 4 coming out in early February .
Btw- im not butthurt by where battlefront 2 touched me. Tbh- anthem could turn out to be pay 2 win and id probably still play it. I mean, its not a mmo - so its not like im competing with anyone anyways. Prolly will just play solo or with my bro.
Sorry but im staying super hyped for this.
https://www.ea.com/games/anthem/buy?isLocalized=true
Nvm found something:
I don't think EA has ever been totally convinced that roleplaying in games is a money spinner. they see it as very hit or miss. A huge investment for a risky return.
I am as always taking Anthem for what it is, who makes it does not matter to me. I like what I see, but that may have very little bearing on what we get. As always wait for the reviews.
The one thing I did find rather odd, is that outside their sanctuaries they always have their helmets on. That means we do not get to see faces, I applaud the realism but it defies entertainment principles. We must always see the face, does not matter if it is film or gaming, it is a stupid principle in my eyes but one religiously adhered to.
As the writers create the world the face rule is not always obvious. It is in film and TV treatments of other media where it becomes obvious. So Spiderman can't wait to take his mask off even when fighting villains (oh it got damaged again...right), same for Ironman etc. Thor does not wear a helmet.
So the principle is as soon as you can get the helmet or mask off, my guess is that they are not ready to show faces in combat for development reasons and that will come later with an "invisible helmet" tick box.
I am pretty certain they will devise a way to make players pay real money for loot.
RPGs and MMORPGS are my primary gaming interest or I wouldn't be here right now. If Bioware won't be making those any more, well that's where I get off the Bioware fan train.
I have always been a Bioware fan because of their focus on strong RPGs, their stories and lore. Their history of focusing on RPGs is the only reason I even paid any attention to Anthem in the first place. Shooters are not in my wheelhouse unless they are primarily RPGs with shooter action mechanics in the game play.
My point in my previous posts, if it wasn't clear, is all about the fact that this is looking like a significant departure for them in making a game where RPG, story and lore is not their primary focus: looking cool, flying and blowing shit up is. At least that's what I'm seeing from what they have shown so far. I see a Destiny clone and that is the type of game I almost always give a hard pass to - lootbox shenanigans or no lootboxes - unless I'm really, really bored.
Whether you like this type of game or not is irrelevant in the context of whether this is the type of game that they are known for doing best. They're making something quite different from their traditional games which ironically, should appeal more to the many Bioware haters out there, not their fans. I don't see any need for the alt right to hate and campaign against this one, do you?
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
And imo if - if - the trailer is accurate it looks to me like the game will deliver.
Will it deliver "more"? A complex narrative perhaps? Well it might surprise us but I can understand why that is not what the trailer is showcasing. Story or the lack of being - arguably - something the target demographic seems capable of overlooking providing the game delivers on decent gameplay, framerates, graphics and so forth. So its not surprising if the trailer doesn't make a big deal about it.
I can lament that. I can hope the game does have a "story" - especially as stories are something that people can invest in. And bring people back - purchasing follow on content.
And the Harry Potter / LotR / Star Wars films should all have been made at once and we should only have had to pay once approach - nah. Well the same goes for games. Now value for money is a different matter but the concept is fine.
Nor is this Bioware - there is a Bioware tradition but the people who made those games are all (or mostly) gone. Companies change. Studios are bought, closed, relocated. opened. People leave, new people are hired. Same with EA and Blizzard. Its possible for companies not to change but its rare and usually there will be some constant involved to act as an anchor. The company that made Anthem is no more Bioware of old than EA is.
So I take it for what it is. I hope it delivers for its target demographic and makes EA a lot of money. Maybe I should say that again: a lot of money. Why? For then EA might feel able to pursue the "less popular" deep story driven narrative stuff - perhaps expanding the capabilities of their game engine. Games that are more likely to appeal more to moi. And clearly some other posters in this thread. Stuff which might not make them as much money perhaps. Otherwise they might always be chasing "the popular" "in your face" stuff and never get around to the Oscar winner type stuff that rarely seems to do well at the box office. (Although I will say that this years winner - The Shape of Water - was superb and worthy of both.)
But I agree with the rest.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED