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Soft Launch Pushed to 2019, Russian Distributor Found & Engine Licensed to Another Company - Crowfal

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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    Where are these blithering idiots who randomly blurt out "SJW" at everything coming from?

    Folks like this are so confusing to understand and so mentally handicapped I wonder what their day to day is like after leaving their caves/hovels.  :D

    They're so angrily dumb, they contradict their own rhetoric. You can't even get a read on what fringe end of the spectrum they're from anymore.

    Something is happening, maybe it's airborne. 

    SBFord
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    Where are these blithering idiots who randomly blurt out "SJW" at everything coming from?

    Folks like this are so confusing to understand and so mentally handicapped I wonder what their day to day is like after leaving their caves/hovels.  :D

    They're so angrily dumb, they contradict their own rhetoric. You can't even get a read on what fringe end of the spectrum they're from anymore.

    Something is happening, maybe it's airborne. 

    Lmao at that Wahlberg gif!  The dude has more emotion in his furrowed brow than you can shake a stick at.
    SBFord

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    I think the current "Russian" craze goes back to when Donna Brazile was allegedly caught leaking CNN debate questions to Hillary. 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-JChl8w6oQ

    Ever since that point, we have blamed everything on Russia.

    Remember... prior to her being caught this was the perception on Russia:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0IWe11RWOM


    Now we see Russia behind everything that goes wrong.  From elections, to power outages, to video game hacking.  What a crazy world we live in.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Given that it's a Kickstarter game, this should come as a surprise to no one.
    In all fairness I am an old cold warrior, so hating Russians comes pretty easily to me.

    My mother was the same about "the Japs", likely rolling over in her grave over the fact my children and I drive 4 Japanese cars.


    Scot

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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    I think the current "Russian" craze goes back to when Donna Brazile was allegedly caught leaking CNN debate questions to Hillary. 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-JChl8w6oQ

    Ever since that point, we have blamed everything on Russia.

    Remember... prior to her being caught this was the perception on Russia:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0IWe11RWOM


    Now we see Russia behind everything that goes wrong.  From elections, to power outages, to video game hacking.  What a crazy world we live in.

    No. The "Russian" craze goes back to when something actually happened and is still happening now.

    Folks do realize it's OK to acknowledge something happened without either tacking it on to every single following thing or idiotically attempting to discredit it because of something unrelated from a political party you don't agree with.

    In closing;
    • There are Russian cyber attacks that breached American democracy and infrastructure
    • There are Russian hackers who exploit video games
    • United States and China exploit video games more than Russia
    • A Russian video game client handled by a Russian company has 0 to do with an NA Client
    • Donna Brazile isn't the cause of "Russia" being blamed for anything, Russia is.

    Seriously some of you folks need to get struck in the back of the head a few times like it's an old TV. This sh!# is crazy.
    MadFrenchie[Deleted User]
    "As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*" 

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Scot said:
    Kyleran said:
    I think Russia is a wonderful country with great culture and amazing people. They are just under a questionable leader. Can't America and many other countries say the same?
    Gaming is global so developers and publishers have to think globally for the best return on investment and to make their dream a reality. The more players the better! 
    I agree , until I get cheated out of my gaming experience.  PVP is a completely different beast then PVE, and Russian players who pvp will do most anything to win.
    Funny story. Read several articles like the one below, over the past 10 years China has topped the list for most hacking.

    Number 2 on almost every list? The United States. Russia almost always comes in like 4th or 5th.

    Someone better get busy and ban those damn American cheaters!!!

    https://securitytoday.com/Articles/2017/03/03/Top-5-Countries-Where-Cyber-Attacks-Originate.aspx?m=1&Page=1

    It is always the other guy never us.

    Europe does not even feature on the list, I am rather let down. I suppose I could include Turkey as part of Europe but that's pushing it a bit. But in the spirit of us all being in it together I will. :D

    tell that to the age of conan community....
    That is more the fault of Funcom to fail to control hacking, not due to Russians hacking. 

    EVE has a huge following of Russians gamers, but does not have a massive hacking problem as CCP cracks down hard on it.

    Sure, some cheat, mostly botting which is more challenging to fight, but I've not run into a gang speed hacking or any such silliness


    JamesGoblin

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    I think the current "Russian" craze goes back to when Donna Brazile was allegedly caught leaking CNN debate questions to Hillary. 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-JChl8w6oQ

    Ever since that point, we have blamed everything on Russia.

    Remember... prior to her being caught this was the perception on Russia:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0IWe11RWOM


    Now we see Russia behind everything that goes wrong.  From elections, to power outages, to video game hacking.  What a crazy world we live in.

    No. The "Russian" craze goes back to when something actually happened and is still happening now.

    Folks do realize it's OK to acknowledge something happened without either tacking it on to every single following thing or idiotically attempting to discredit it because of something unrelated from a political party you don't agree with.

    In closing;
    • There are Russian cyber attacks that breached American democracy and infrastructure
    • There are Russian hackers who exploit video games
    • United States and China exploit video games more than Russia
    • A Russian video game client handled by a Russian company has 0 to do with an NA Client
    • Donna Brazile isn't the cause of "Russia" being blamed for anything, Russia is.

    Seriously some of you folks need to get struck in the back of the head a few times like it's an old TV. This sh!# is crazy.
    No.  The fallacy is that folks are led to believe this is something new.  Russia has done this for decades.  So has China. So has the US. So has pretty much any developed country.  

    Romney attempted to point out that Russia was a geopolitical foe and was mocked relentlessly because that fit the narrative at the time.  Suddenly, when the time was right, the same voices that mocked him are shouting about it the loudest. The point it changed was Donna Brazile getting caught leaking Hillary debate questions.  That was the current flashpoint. 

    Don't worry.  When the narrative needs to change we will all be laughing at how we thought Russia we behind all the boogeymen.  Then, of course, it will change again and they will be our mortal enemy.

    I (I guess sadly) have never voted in an election.  I just stand on the sidelines and mock the fake narratives of both sides.  As others have said... once upon a time it was Chinese farmers hacking, then it was Brazilians.  Today it's Russians.   We never lack for a new boogeyman.  Sad it even leaks into games.



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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    edited June 2018
    I think the current "Russian" craze goes back to when Donna Brazile was allegedly caught leaking CNN debate questions to Hillary. 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-JChl8w6oQ

    Ever since that point, we have blamed everything on Russia.

    Remember... prior to her being caught this was the perception on Russia:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0IWe11RWOM


    Now we see Russia behind everything that goes wrong.  From elections, to power outages, to video game hacking.  What a crazy world we live in.

    No. The "Russian" craze goes back to when something actually happened and is still happening now.

    Folks do realize it's OK to acknowledge something happened without either tacking it on to every single following thing or idiotically attempting to discredit it because of something unrelated from a political party you don't agree with.

    In closing;
    • There are Russian cyber attacks that breached American democracy and infrastructure
    • There are Russian hackers who exploit video games
    • United States and China exploit video games more than Russia
    • A Russian video game client handled by a Russian company has 0 to do with an NA Client
    • Donna Brazile isn't the cause of "Russia" being blamed for anything, Russia is.

    Seriously some of you folks need to get struck in the back of the head a few times like it's an old TV. This sh!# is crazy.
    Yes, it's not really debatable by any logical person at this point to think Russia didn't attempt (with varying degrees of success) to subvert our most important election.  The intelligence community put that debate to rest a long time ago, and have since moved on to gauging the effects and how it happened to prevent it in the future.

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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    I think the current "Russian" craze goes back to when Donna Brazile was allegedly caught leaking CNN debate questions to Hillary. 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-JChl8w6oQ

    Ever since that point, we have blamed everything on Russia.

    Remember... prior to her being caught this was the perception on Russia:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0IWe11RWOM


    Now we see Russia behind everything that goes wrong.  From elections, to power outages, to video game hacking.  What a crazy world we live in.

    No. The "Russian" craze goes back to when something actually happened and is still happening now.

    Folks do realize it's OK to acknowledge something happened without either tacking it on to every single following thing or idiotically attempting to discredit it because of something unrelated from a political party you don't agree with.

    In closing;
    • There are Russian cyber attacks that breached American democracy and infrastructure
    • There are Russian hackers who exploit video games
    • United States and China exploit video games more than Russia
    • A Russian video game client handled by a Russian company has 0 to do with an NA Client
    • Donna Brazile isn't the cause of "Russia" being blamed for anything, Russia is.

    Seriously some of you folks need to get struck in the back of the head a few times like it's an old TV. This sh!# is crazy.
    No.  The fallacy is that folks are led to believe this is something new.  Russia has done this for decades.  So has China. So has the US. So has pretty much any developed country.  

    Romney attempted to point out that Russia was a geopolitical foe and was mocked relentlessly because that fit the narrative at the time.  Suddenly, when the time was right, the same voices that mocked him are shouting about it the loudest. The point it changed was Donna Brazile getting caught leaking Hillary debate questions.  That was the current flashpoint. 

    Don't worry.  When the narrative needs to change we will all be laughing at how we thought Russia we behind all the boogeymen.  Then, of course, it will change again and they will be our mortal enemy.

    I (I guess sadly) have never voted in an election.  I just stand on the sidelines and mock the fake narratives of both sides.  As others have said... once upon a time it was Chinese farmers hacking, then it was Brazilians.  Today it's Russians.   We never lack for a new boogeyman.  Sad it even leaks into games.



    You hilariously start YOUR message with "No" then proceed to refute something that is 1) Irrelevant 2) No one insinuated.

    You LIT-ER-ALLY and WRONGLY just put a person to blame with a time frame to it, then say folks are "led to believe something is new". HELLO?? YOU'RE LEADING!!! Logic please.

    Are you discrediting or substantiating? Trying to do both at the same time doesn't put you on the sidelines.

    Just leave it alone bruh, get back on topic.

    Russia having its own publisher/client has 0 to do with NA and it's client.

    Madness.
    "As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*" 

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    edited June 2018
    I think the current "Russian" craze goes back to when Donna Brazile was allegedly caught leaking CNN debate questions to Hillary. 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-JChl8w6oQ

    Ever since that point, we have blamed everything on Russia.

    Remember... prior to her being caught this was the perception on Russia:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0IWe11RWOM


    Now we see Russia behind everything that goes wrong.  From elections, to power outages, to video game hacking.  What a crazy world we live in.

    No. The "Russian" craze goes back to when something actually happened and is still happening now.

    Folks do realize it's OK to acknowledge something happened without either tacking it on to every single following thing or idiotically attempting to discredit it because of something unrelated from a political party you don't agree with.

    In closing;
    • There are Russian cyber attacks that breached American democracy and infrastructure
    • There are Russian hackers who exploit video games
    • United States and China exploit video games more than Russia
    • A Russian video game client handled by a Russian company has 0 to do with an NA Client
    • Donna Brazile isn't the cause of "Russia" being blamed for anything, Russia is.

    Seriously some of you folks need to get struck in the back of the head a few times like it's an old TV. This sh!# is crazy.
    No.  The fallacy is that folks are led to believe this is something new.  Russia has done this for decades.  So has China. So has the US. So has pretty much any developed country.  

    Romney attempted to point out that Russia was a geopolitical foe and was mocked relentlessly because that fit the narrative at the time.  Suddenly, when the time was right, the same voices that mocked him are shouting about it the loudest. The point it changed was Donna Brazile getting caught leaking Hillary debate questions.  That was the current flashpoint. 

    Don't worry.  When the narrative needs to change we will all be laughing at how we thought Russia we behind all the boogeymen.  Then, of course, it will change again and they will be our mortal enemy.

    I (I guess sadly) have never voted in an election.  I just stand on the sidelines and mock the fake narratives of both sides.  As others have said... once upon a time it was Chinese farmers hacking, then it was Brazilians.  Today it's Russians.   We never lack for a new boogeyman.  Sad it even leaks into games.



    You hilariously start YOUR message with "No" then proceed to refute something that is 1) Irrelevant 2) No one insinuated.

    You LIT-ER-ALLY and WRONGLY just put a person to blame with a time frame to it, then say folks are "led to believe something is new". HELLO?? YOU'RE LEADING!!! Logic please.

    Are you discrediting or substantiating? Trying to do both at the same time doesn't put you on the sidelines.

    Just leave it alone bruh, get back on topic.

    Russia having its own publisher/client has 0 to do with NA and it's client.

    Madness.
    I think you should re-read it.  What I said (I'll dumb it down) was that nothing changes other than the narrative.   Russia has been trying to influence politics around the world for decades. So has China. So has the US. So has any country with a shred of self-interest.   What changed was the messaging here.  A few years back it was inconvenient to suggest Russia was a foe (Romney).  Then it became convenient (Brazile).  Eventually, it will be inconvenient again. No reasonably intelligent person can think that this was the first election Russia attempted to influence.  Nor should they believe that we do not do the same thing.  It's just convenient to the narrative now to bring this to the forefront.

    And now it has gone beyond politics and into games.  Today we see Russia hackers behind everything.  In the past, it was China or Brazil.  Who knows, if things keep going this way maybe it will be Canada next year. Folks are always looking for a scapegoat.  

    Personally, I wish population density allowed most countries to have their own segregated servers.  I think it really sucks when you can't communicate with folks in an MMORPG because everyone speaks a different language.  It's not because I'm xenophobic.  It's simply because of communication.


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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

    Just leave it alone bruh, get back on topic.

    Russia having its own publisher/client has 0 to do with NA and it's client.


    Let's do this please. 
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  • btdtbtdt Member RarePosts: 523
    Just another example of a kickstarter using your money to develop a game so that they can later sell it to someone else for a profit.  You've all been duped.

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    What a crazy thread 
    I think we should interject some P2W and maybe a sidebar on whether or not this is really an MMO.  Just to kick it into overdrive.

    ScotSBFordMadFrenchieJamesGoblinesc-joconnor

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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,050
    What a crazy thread 
    I think we should interject some P2W and maybe a sidebar on whether or not this is really an MMO.  Just to kick it into overdrive.

    Oh dear god no, then I have to swoop in again to debunk all that nonsense since people actually believe it.... Don't make me, please ....

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • EldurianEldurian Member EpicPosts: 2,736
    mgilbrtsn said:
    Better right than rushed.

    I feel like that's less applicable to MMOs in that a lot of ongoing development happens with online games these days. Shigeru Miyamoto is most known for games like Mario games that ship as cartridges. If they ship a bad game they couldn't just follow it with a patch. The copy of Mario you have from the late 80s still plays the same today that it did back then. Nowdays you would fire it up, patch for 30 minutes, and hop on to find all the changes they made.

    That being said the most important time for any game is launch week because thats when a lot of people will be deciding if they every will play your game again.
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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    SBFord said:
    I'm going to laugh so hard when this game gets blown up by the hackers and I will print shirts that say  "Told You So, Noob q;P__..|.."  and mail them to who ever wants one. lol
    You simply refuse to see the point underneath your blind assumptions. Hacking is nation agnostic. There are sleeze bags in every country in the world. No one has a lock on trashy behavior.
    you don't pvp ...  also what size shirt do you wear ?
    Please stop and stay on topic. Thank you.
    JamesGoblinKyleran


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  • ragebulletragebullet Member UncommonPosts: 55
    @SBFord Please be more consistent in your posts. first you take a jab at nationalism which was funny sure. but completely offtopic asswell? so yea stay on topic and be consistent in enforcement of such.
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  • ValentinaValentina Member RarePosts: 2,104
    It really is a good thing that it's pushed back. It's nowhere near ready.
    JamesGoblin
  • francis_baudfrancis_baud Member RarePosts: 479
    Nice to know that another company will license the tech ACE has been developing. The studio has put a lot of effort creating their own MMO solutions for Crowfall.
    JamesGoblin
  • Arkade99Arkade99 Member RarePosts: 538


    What the hell is a "soft launch?"  Modern developers and their bullshit marketing speak...



    J.Todd Coleman defined what Artcraft means by soft launch:

    https://community.crowfall.com/topic/20962-question-from-kickstarter-page/?tab=comments#comment-388207

    Basically, the game will be 100% complete at soft launch. They have money set aside for marketing, but that money won't be spent at soft launch. Instead, they will simply launch the game and work on refining the "player funnel" as they call it, which means they will work on ensuring they have good player retention before they spend their marketing money to bring in as many people as possible.

    How many games have we seen where the servers are overwhelmed at launch and a week later, 80% of those players have quit? Crowfall is going for more of a slow build, but with hopefully better retention.
    JamesGoblin
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