Hey to each their own. A lot of us have better ways to waste our money than making a guy who can't keep deadlines without a publisher breathing down his neck, rich. And it's not a case of haters so quit generalizing. Most of us are just completely shocked that he proves P.T. Barnum right almost every day.
What? Such a directed spin on CR with that one heh, the money pledged for SC pays the wagers of over 450 people, the SC backers are not throwing money at a random guy to pretend he's making a game. Comments as that will be nothing but hyperbole. Deadlines met or not, the progress this game continues to show is undeniable, having 3.2 just released stated as the most playable and enjoyable version the game has ever gotten as the most general feedback as one example. And for those who care about a game here, that's all that matters.
I've wasted money in many games I found it a waste, like recently Sea of Thieves and most recently Bless Online, SC is not one of those.
They are not releasing something? well that shouldn't be an suprise
They are releasing things every three months.
Last weekend Alpha 3.2 was released to the live servers.
Fancy yourself a miner ? Go and get rich hurting rocks (instead of other pilots) !
Have fun
You forgot to mention that one needs a 120$ ship to shoot at rocks.
Except you don't, every playable ship is available to anyone who's willing to try them. It's the beauty of having proper space legs and fully modeled ship interiors.
All you have to do is use the chat ingame and ask for a test-drive and I bet you won't have to wait more than a couple of minutes for an invite!
I just spent ~1 hour mining diamonds in Daymar, made about 2k and bought a new rifle thanks to a friendly citizen.
Got a ride on the 600i from Daymar to GrimHex also. Beautiful ship.
Guess you'll have to find other stuff to bitch about, hating on Star Citizen for so long makes for a kinda repetitive speech lol
Someone still had to buy that ship with real money. Just because you didn’t doesn’t change the fact so let’s not play that game
Doesn't invalidate what I said, Anyone can log on and pilot every ship available.
No need to get restless folks, it will release when it's ready a like all games of Chris Roberts it will be worth it!
The vertical slice with dev's cometary is also very nice!
The difference between this game and all other games Chris Roberts has actually managed to release is that he had a publisher to keep him in check.
Why do you think Star Citizen and Squadron 42 got so much funding and hype in the first place?
People LOVED Chris Roberts games when he was restrained by publishers/budget/tech/time limitations.
It's been 5 years and they keep getting around 30 million a year give or take lol
This alpha version already delivers so many of the features that space sim enthusiasts have always dreamed about since they were kids.
That's why it keeps going, no matter what the haters say or try, Star Citizen keeps on getting better and better while gaining more and more backers and funds.
It's been such a nice journey to be part of. Very, very exciting times.
Hey to each their own. A lot of us have better ways to waste our money than making a guy who can't keep deadlines without a publisher breathing down his neck, rich. And it's not a case of haters so quit generalizing. Most of us are just completely shocked that he proves P.T. Barnum right almost every day.
- What's a better way to "waste" "our" money?
- Why do games from Publishers with bigger studios also get delayed?
- What Publisher/Studio/Dev is trying to do a game as ambitious as Star Citizen?
They are not releasing something? well that shouldn't be an suprise
They are releasing things every three months.
Last weekend Alpha 3.2 was released to the live servers.
Fancy yourself a miner ? Go and get rich hurting rocks (instead of other pilots) !
Have fun
You forgot to mention that one needs a 120$ ship to shoot at rocks.
Except you don't, every playable ship is available to anyone who's willing to try them. It's the beauty of having proper space legs and fully modeled ship interiors.
All you have to do is use the chat ingame and ask for a test-drive and I bet you won't have to wait more than a couple of minutes for an invite!
I just spent ~1 hour mining diamonds in Daymar, made about 2k and bought a new rifle thanks to a friendly citizen.
Got a ride on the 600i from Daymar to GrimHex also. Beautiful ship.
Guess you'll have to find other stuff to bitch about, hating on Star Citizen for so long makes for a kinda repetitive speech lol
Someone still had to buy that ship with real money. Just because you didn’t doesn’t change the fact so let’s not play that game
Doesn't invalidate what I said, Anyone can log on and pilot every ship available.
No need to get restless folks, it will release when it's ready a like all games of Chris Roberts it will be worth it!
The vertical slice with dev's cometary is also very nice!
The difference between this game and all other games Chris Roberts has actually managed to release is that he had a publisher to keep him in check.
Why do you think Star Citizen and Squadron 42 got so much funding and hype in the first place?
People LOVED Chris Roberts games when he was restrained by publishers/budget/tech/time limitations.
It's been 5 years and they keep getting around 30 million a year give or take lol
This alpha version already delivers so many of the features that space sim enthusiasts have always dreamed about since they were kids.
That's why it keeps going, no matter what the haters say or try, Star Citizen keeps on getting better and better while gaining more and more backers and funds.
It's been such a nice journey to be part of. Very, very exciting times.
So it’s because of rose coloured glasses that cause people to throw money at a man that has proven he can’t be trusted to run his own game studio. Gotcha! Thanks for clearing that up.
Nice try at trying to bring this back to “haters” again. You’re kinda obsessive about that.
No need to get restless folks, it will release when it's ready a like all games of Chris Roberts it will be worth it!
The vertical slice with dev's cometary is also very nice!
The difference between this game and all other games Chris Roberts has actually managed to release is that he had a publisher to keep him in check.
But there is a game.
The argument i'll never understand is the "No SQ42 Trailer" one, we have a 2-hour play through of the current game.
Is there a completed game? No there isn’t and given his track record with running his own game studios I’ll believe it when I see it in a released state
They are not releasing something? well that shouldn't be an suprise
They are releasing things every three months.
Last weekend Alpha 3.2 was released to the live servers.
Fancy yourself a miner ? Go and get rich hurting rocks (instead of other pilots) !
Have fun
You forgot to mention that one needs a 120$ ship to shoot at rocks.
Except you don't, every playable ship is available to anyone who's willing to try them. It's the beauty of having proper space legs and fully modeled ship interiors.
All you have to do is use the chat ingame and ask for a test-drive and I bet you won't have to wait more than a couple of minutes for an invite!
I just spent ~1 hour mining diamonds in Daymar, made about 2k and bought a new rifle thanks to a friendly citizen.
Got a ride on the 600i from Daymar to GrimHex also. Beautiful ship.
Guess you'll have to find other stuff to bitch about, hating on Star Citizen for so long makes for a kinda repetitive speech lol
Someone still had to buy that ship with real money. Just because you didn’t doesn’t change the fact so let’s not play that game
Doesn't invalidate what I said, Anyone can log on and pilot every ship available.
No need to get restless folks, it will release when it's ready a like all games of Chris Roberts it will be worth it!
The vertical slice with dev's cometary is also very nice!
The difference between this game and all other games Chris Roberts has actually managed to release is that he had a publisher to keep him in check.
Why do you think Star Citizen and Squadron 42 got so much funding and hype in the first place?
People LOVED Chris Roberts games when he was restrained by publishers/budget/tech/time limitations.
It's been 5 years and they keep getting around 30 million a year give or take lol
This alpha version already delivers so many of the features that space sim enthusiasts have always dreamed about since they were kids.
That's why it keeps going, no matter what the haters say or try, Star Citizen keeps on getting better and better while gaining more and more backers and funds.
It's been such a nice journey to be part of. Very, very exciting times.
So it’s because of rose coloured glasses that cause people to throw money at a man that has proven he can’t be trusted to run his own game studio. Gotcha! Thanks for clearing that up.
Nice try at trying to bring this back to “haters” again. You’re kinda obsessive about that.
I mean, you're not completely wrong. The only part i'll argue is the fact that CIG is still a world wide company with hundreds of employees, he can at least run that.
They are not releasing something? well that shouldn't be an suprise
They are releasing things every three months.
Last weekend Alpha 3.2 was released to the live servers.
Fancy yourself a miner ? Go and get rich hurting rocks (instead of other pilots) !
Have fun
You forgot to mention that one needs a 120$ ship to shoot at rocks.
Except you don't, every playable ship is available to anyone who's willing to try them. It's the beauty of having proper space legs and fully modeled ship interiors.
All you have to do is use the chat ingame and ask for a test-drive and I bet you won't have to wait more than a couple of minutes for an invite!
I just spent ~1 hour mining diamonds in Daymar, made about 2k and bought a new rifle thanks to a friendly citizen.
Got a ride on the 600i from Daymar to GrimHex also. Beautiful ship.
Guess you'll have to find other stuff to bitch about, hating on Star Citizen for so long makes for a kinda repetitive speech lol
Someone still had to buy that ship with real money. Just because you didn’t doesn’t change the fact so let’s not play that game
Doesn't invalidate what I said, Anyone can log on and pilot every ship available.
No need to get restless folks, it will release when it's ready a like all games of Chris Roberts it will be worth it!
The vertical slice with dev's cometary is also very nice!
The difference between this game and all other games Chris Roberts has actually managed to release is that he had a publisher to keep him in check.
Why do you think Star Citizen and Squadron 42 got so much funding and hype in the first place?
People LOVED Chris Roberts games when he was restrained by publishers/budget/tech/time limitations.
It's been 5 years and they keep getting around 30 million a year give or take lol
This alpha version already delivers so many of the features that space sim enthusiasts have always dreamed about since they were kids.
That's why it keeps going, no matter what the haters say or try, Star Citizen keeps on getting better and better while gaining more and more backers and funds.
It's been such a nice journey to be part of. Very, very exciting times.
So it’s because of rose coloured glasses that cause people to throw money at a man that has proven he can’t be trusted to run his own game studio. Gotcha! Thanks for clearing that up.
Nice try at trying to bring this back to “haters” again. You’re kinda obsessive about that.
I mean, you're not completely wrong. The only part i'll argue is the fact that CIG is still a world wide company with hundreds of employees, he can at least run that.
Can he really run that though? We’ve seen plenty of waste from this game and missed deadlines from his micromanaging and egotistic nature.
This might have have been a amazing game if Chris was the idea guy in the shadows and the big decisions were left to someone else with experience successfully running a game studio. As it stands now it’s kind of a running joke mostly because of Chris.
*queue countdown for a fan to come say highest Kickstarter ever!!*
The only running joke is how the haters think that anyone else could do a better job than Chris Roberts yet they can't point to any Game Dev or Studio who's doing anything remotely close to assembling a gaming company from scratch, open 5 studios, hire 500 people and do games as ambitious as Star Citizen and Squadron 42 while turning the development showcase into a 30 million dollar a year funding lol
They are not releasing something? well that shouldn't be an suprise
They are releasing things every three months.
Last weekend Alpha 3.2 was released to the live servers.
Fancy yourself a miner ? Go and get rich hurting rocks (instead of other pilots) !
Have fun
You forgot to mention that one needs a 120$ ship to shoot at rocks.
Except you don't, every playable ship is available to anyone who's willing to try them. It's the beauty of having proper space legs and fully modeled ship interiors.
All you have to do is use the chat ingame and ask for a test-drive and I bet you won't have to wait more than a couple of minutes for an invite!
I just spent ~1 hour mining diamonds in Daymar, made about 2k and bought a new rifle thanks to a friendly citizen.
Got a ride on the 600i from Daymar to GrimHex also. Beautiful ship.
Guess you'll have to find other stuff to bitch about, hating on Star Citizen for so long makes for a kinda repetitive speech lol
Someone still had to buy that ship with real money. Just because you didn’t doesn’t change the fact so let’s not play that game
Doesn't invalidate what I said, Anyone can log on and pilot every ship available.
No need to get restless folks, it will release when it's ready a like all games of Chris Roberts it will be worth it!
The vertical slice with dev's cometary is also very nice!
The difference between this game and all other games Chris Roberts has actually managed to release is that he had a publisher to keep him in check.
Why do you think Star Citizen and Squadron 42 got so much funding and hype in the first place?
People LOVED Chris Roberts games when he was restrained by publishers/budget/tech/time limitations.
It's been 5 years and they keep getting around 30 million a year give or take lol
This alpha version already delivers so many of the features that space sim enthusiasts have always dreamed about since they were kids.
That's why it keeps going, no matter what the haters say or try, Star Citizen keeps on getting better and better while gaining more and more backers and funds.
It's been such a nice journey to be part of. Very, very exciting times.
Hey to each their own. A lot of us have better ways to waste our money than making a guy who can't keep deadlines without a publisher breathing down his neck, rich. And it's not a case of haters so quit generalizing. Most of us are just completely shocked that he proves P.T. Barnum right almost every day.
- What's a better way to "waste" "our" money?
- Why do games from Publishers with bigger studios also get delayed?
- What Publisher/Studio/Dev is trying to do a game as ambitious as Star Citizen?
And that's why I said to each his own. It's your money to do with as you wish. FYI I and many others here are not "haters" I have played every one of his games but I am also aware of how they got to market and the enormous size of this guy's ego. Wing Commander Movie anyone? At that point he had had enough of games and was going to take Hollywood by storm.
They are not releasing something? well that shouldn't be an suprise
They are releasing things every three months.
Last weekend Alpha 3.2 was released to the live servers.
Fancy yourself a miner ? Go and get rich hurting rocks (instead of other pilots) !
Have fun
You forgot to mention that one needs a 120$ ship to shoot at rocks.
Except you don't, every playable ship is available to anyone who's willing to try them. It's the beauty of having proper space legs and fully modeled ship interiors.
All you have to do is use the chat ingame and ask for a test-drive and I bet you won't have to wait more than a couple of minutes for an invite!
I just spent ~1 hour mining diamonds in Daymar, made about 2k and bought a new rifle thanks to a friendly citizen.
Got a ride on the 600i from Daymar to GrimHex also. Beautiful ship.
Guess you'll have to find other stuff to bitch about, hating on Star Citizen for so long makes for a kinda repetitive speech lol
Someone still had to buy that ship with real money. Just because you didn’t doesn’t change the fact so let’s not play that game
Doesn't invalidate what I said, Anyone can log on and pilot every ship available.
No need to get restless folks, it will release when it's ready a like all games of Chris Roberts it will be worth it!
The vertical slice with dev's cometary is also very nice!
The difference between this game and all other games Chris Roberts has actually managed to release is that he had a publisher to keep him in check.
Why do you think Star Citizen and Squadron 42 got so much funding and hype in the first place?
People LOVED Chris Roberts games when he was restrained by publishers/budget/tech/time limitations.
It's been 5 years and they keep getting around 30 million a year give or take lol
This alpha version already delivers so many of the features that space sim enthusiasts have always dreamed about since they were kids.
That's why it keeps going, no matter what the haters say or try, Star Citizen keeps on getting better and better while gaining more and more backers and funds.
It's been such a nice journey to be part of. Very, very exciting times.
So it’s because of rose coloured glasses that cause people to throw money at a man that has proven he can’t be trusted to run his own game studio. Gotcha! Thanks for clearing that up.
Nice try at trying to bring this back to “haters” again. You’re kinda obsessive about that.
I mean, you're not completely wrong. The only part i'll argue is the fact that CIG is still a world wide company with hundreds of employees, he can at least run that.
Can he really run that though? We’ve seen plenty of waste from this game and missed deadlines from his micromanaging and egotistic nature.
This might have have been a amazing game if Chris was the idea guy in the shadows and the big decisions were left to someone else with experience successfully running a game studio. As it stands now it’s kind of a running joke mostly because of Chris.
*queue countdown for a fan to come say highest Kickstarter ever!!*
At the end of the day, my stance is to wait and see what person Chris will be remembered as. Will it be as the guy who persevered and launched his dream game, or is it as the biggest crowdfunding failure of all time? Till the pieces fall i'm reserving judgement, especially since i have no basis for other companies behind the scenes. He has gotten this far after all.
The only running joke is how the haters think that anyone else could do a better job than Chris Roberts yet they can't point to any Game Dev or Studio who's doing anything remotely close to assembling a gaming company from scratch, open 5 studios, hire 500 people and do games as ambitious as Star Citizen and Squadron 42 while turning the development showcase into a 30 million dollar a year funding lol
Poor Chris is doing so bad it's perceived as good
If only other studios and dev's could do this bad
I like how you have to bring up how they had to assemble a gaming company from scratch, open all these studios and hire all these people before you actually mention a game. It’s like you know the game is in a piss poor position so you have to try and prop it up.
And yes anyone could do a better job then Chris Roberts because Chris Roberts has already shown he sucks at running his own game studio and with his new one he is making the same mistakes. At this point (and I’m saying this purely to trigger the fanboys) id trust Derek Smart to make the game better.
I agree with that sentiment of to each their own too with their time, actions, &/or money as long as it isn't intentionally harming another. I do hope these games, Squadron 42 & Star Citizen, finally release & are superb, but it does seem sometimes like a bad joke with regards to a release date.
At this point it might just be supported by some sort of incestuous confirmation bias supporters since if someone invested heavily into this game of course they need the validation that it was a smart thing to do.
At this stage since it is taking so long I won't even buy it till it has been released for awhile just to make sure the quality is justified. For those that toss money at it already & continue to do so with those $27K packs & the like, good for you for supporting something you believe in.
Maybe it will release in another year or so or we can all post about it some more being a distinct probably.
I like how you have to bring up how they had to assemble a gaming company from scratch, open all these studios and hire all these people before you actually mention a game. It’s like you know the game is in a piss poor position so you have to try and prop it up.
Is it really that the reason?
Because I remember countless arguments and comparations to other games and companies that already had their studios setup and budgets from day-1, and sometimes even in-house engines, when comparing their scopes, development timeframes, etc... On that aspect, that history of CIG with the SC development is something that can't be ignored when one wants to speak of the whole story to talk about present reality.
Kefo said: At this point (and I’m saying this purely to trigger the fanboys) id trust Derek Smart to make the game better.
But Derek already created the BDSSE, I can't even name it without cringing sorry :X
I like how you have to bring up how they had to assemble a gaming company from scratch, open all these studios and hire all these people before you actually mention a game. It’s like you know the game is in a piss poor position so you have to try and prop it up.
Is it really that the reason?
Because I remember countless arguments and comparations to other games and companies that already had their studios setup and budgets from day-1, and sometimes even in-house engines, when comparing their scopes, development timeframes, etc... On that aspect, the reality of CIG with the SC development is something that can't be ignored.
Kefo said: At this point (and I’m saying this purely to trigger the fanboys) id trust Derek Smart to make the game better.
But Derek already created the BDSSE, I can't even name it without cringing sorry :X
Those game companies started from scratch at some point and when they did some of them also were making games that would be considered revolunatary so please don’t try to make it seem like SC is the first of its kind to do this because it really isn’t. But that wasn’t the point I was making anyway.
Those game companies started from scratch at some point and when they did some of them also were making games that would be considered revolunatary so please don’t try to make it seem like SC is the first of its kind to do this because it really isn’t. But that wasn’t the point I was making anyway.
Also +1 respect for the joke about Derek lol
Yes many companies when they start are most likely to do mistakes, just see Amazon Studios already cancelling their first games because they didn't work out. Usually new companies start small and grow to big, now CIG was created to literally create the most ambitious game, that's what made it difficulty 11 not 10, and if you recall those Kotaku articles where they talk about the mistakes and problems of the early days you clearly notice that, they had to outsource a ton of stuff because they didn't have enough in-house resources and a communication nightmare caused a massive amount work wasted.
The only question I have. If no one can't trust Chris word on when a game is going to release. How can any sensible person believe anything doing with the cash they have received?
“The reason I talk to myself is because I’m the only one whose answers I accept.”
―
George Carlin
The only question I have. If no one can't trust Chris word on when a game is going to release. How can any sensible person believe anything doing with the cash they have received?
Simple: One is under his control, the other isn't.
And why even bringing that argument? It has been quite widely acccepted that, even under industry standards, CIG costs per year more than what they are able to crowdfund, what I actually wonder is, how do they manage to sustain the colossus of their company, they must have investors or something...
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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The only question I have. If no one can't trust Chris word on when a game is going to release. How can any sensible person believe anything doing with the cash they have received?
Simple: One is under his control, the other isn't.
And why even bringing that argument? It has been quite widely acccepted that, even under industry standards, CIG costs per year more than what they are able to crowdfund, what I actually wonder is, how do they manage to sustain the colossus of their company, they must have investors or something...
Now am really confused. So Chris who as we been told for years controls everything with the company, now we are expected to believe someone else controls the money and money counter?
I think Thanos finger snap sent me into another realm.
“The reason I talk to myself is because I’m the only one whose answers I accept.”
―
George Carlin
Now am really confused. So Chris who as we been told for years controls everything with the company, now we are expected to believe someone else controls the money and money counter?
I think Thanos finger snap sent me into another realm.
Does that mean anything? It means that they have higher costs than what they crowdfund, they likely have other sources of income now what is implied by them, can be selling services, even licensing tech, partnerships, investors, etc...
Now am really confused. So Chris who as we been told for years controls everything with the company, now we are expected to believe someone else controls the money and money counter?
I think Thanos finger snap sent me into another realm.
Does that mean anything? It means that they have higher costs than what they crowdfund, they likely have other sources of income now what is implied by them, can be selling services, even licensing tech, partnerships, investors, etc...
I notice you completely skipped answering the question. Chris runs the whole show we have known that for years, so to think that money chart is accurate is something we can debate just like the games that seem to never really advance to playable state.
We can also in the same argument debate how many people are working at the company(s). We hear rumors of people leaving and at the same time we see the hiring side of the website never gets smaller, only bigger.
“The reason I talk to myself is because I’m the only one whose answers I accept.”
―
George Carlin
I notice you completely skipped answering the question. Chris runs the whole show we have known that for years, so to think that money chart is accurate is something we can debate just like the games that seem to never really advance to playable state.
We can also in the same argument debate how many people are working at the company(s). We hear rumors of people leaving and at the same time we see the hiring side of the website never gets smaller, only bigger.
The funding chart is only the funded money through direct pledges, things like subs, merchandise and so stated to be excluded from it, any other source of funding they have will be excluded from those numbers, but unless they have one greatly impressive amount of subscribers I highly doubt it'd be enough to change the calculated averaged costs they should have from the "negative" in the face of crowdfunding values.
The number of employees was last stated as 475 people (feb 2018), the company growth every year and the numbers reported can be verified partially on the financial statements of FQ42 UK.
The only running joke is how the haters think that anyone else could do a better job than Chris Roberts yet they can't point to any Game Dev or Studio who's doing anything remotely close to assembling a gaming company from scratch, open 5 studios, hire 500 people and do games as ambitious as Star Citizen and Squadron 42 while turning the development showcase into a 30 million dollar a year funding lol
Poor Chris is doing so bad it's perceived as good
If only other studios and dev's could do this bad
I like how you have to bring up how they had to assemble a gaming company from scratch, open all these studios and hire all these people before you actually mention a game. It’s like you know the game is in a piss poor position so you have to try and prop it up.
And yes anyone could do a better job then Chris Roberts because Chris Roberts has already shown he sucks at running his own game studio and with his new one he is making the same mistakes. At this point (and I’m saying this purely to trigger the fanboys) id trust Derek Smart to make the game better.
It's all part of the project, you cant disassociate one from another. CIG went from no company to multiple studios across the world in 5 years rubbing shoulders with the big boys in the AAAA in terms of scope, quality and ambition.
As for the game being "in a piss poor position" ! LOL that's what every hater says for years without even playing the damn thing. It's doomed ! Dooomed! Total Collapse Imminent ! 90 Day's top since 2015 lol
Having just released their 2nd successful quarterly update with new features new content and several QoL improvements such as group play and improvements in the performance this alpha already has more game in it than many "finished and released" games lol
The star feature of this update is definitely Mining alright!
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I've wasted money in many games I found it a waste, like recently Sea of Thieves and most recently Bless Online, SC is not one of those.
Nice try at trying to bring this back to “haters” again. You’re kinda obsessive about that.
This might have have been a amazing game if Chris was the idea guy in the shadows and the big decisions were left to someone else with experience successfully running a game studio. As it stands now it’s kind of a running joke mostly because of Chris.
*queue countdown for a fan to come say highest Kickstarter ever!!*
And yes anyone could do a better job then Chris Roberts because Chris Roberts has already shown he sucks at running his own game studio and with his new one he is making the same mistakes. At this point (and I’m saying this purely to trigger the fanboys) id trust Derek Smart to make the game better.
At this point it might just be supported by some sort of incestuous confirmation bias supporters since if someone invested heavily into this game of course they need the validation that it was a smart thing to do.
At this stage since it is taking so long I won't even buy it till it has been released for awhile just to make sure the quality is justified. For those that toss money at it already & continue to do so with those $27K packs & the like, good for you for supporting something you believe in.
Maybe it will release in another year or so or we can all post about it some more being a distinct probably.
Because I remember countless arguments and comparations to other games and companies that already had their studios setup and budgets from day-1, and sometimes even in-house engines, when comparing their scopes, development timeframes, etc... On that aspect, that history of CIG with the SC development is something that can't be ignored when one wants to speak of the whole story to talk about present reality.
But Derek already created the BDSSE, I can't even name it without cringing sorry :X
Also +1 respect for the joke about Derek lol
― George Carlin
And why even bringing that argument? It has been quite widely acccepted that, even under industry standards, CIG costs per year more than what they are able to crowdfund, what I actually wonder is, how do they manage to sustain the colossus of their company, they must have investors or something...
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The number of employees was last stated as 475 people (feb 2018), the company growth every year and the numbers reported can be verified partially on the financial statements of FQ42 UK.