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CD Projekt Red has confirmed that Cyberpunk 2077 players will not be able to kill children or plot-related NPCs. The response came via a Twitter direct message to a user who asked the company whether players would be able to "kill regular people" and "interact with the city in violent ways". CDPR responded by saying that, while players can engage most characters aggressively, "children or NPCs connected with the plot" are off-limits.

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Vrika

I wish I could kill children.

But it's just on principle of having the freedom to do it. In reality I try to play the good guy and would never kill any of them as long as it can be avoided.

cheyane

I don't want that option in a game simply because there is enough violence against them in real life so please not in a game too. So I am happy they did not give anyone that option.

Vrika said:

I wish I could kill children.

But it's just on principle of having the freedom to do it. In reality I try to play the good guy and would never kill any of them as long as it can be avoided.

Pher0cious

FBI should become game developers, make a game that massacres children, track and monitor everyone who plays it.

Itzme123

It says children connected to the plot. As in quest related npc.

Making that distinction sounds like all other children are fair game. Assuming there's non-quest related children in the world.

They gonna die.

cheyane

Itzme123 said:

It says children connected to the plot. As in quest related npc.

Making that distinction sounds like all other children are fair game. Assuming there's non-quest related children in the world.

They gonna die.

It says 'or' so  all children in game are off limits.

JeffSpicoli

With the exception of Adoring Fan in Oblivion iv never had any desire to engage in such behavior.

cheyane

DMKano said:

MontyBrewster said:

With the exception of Adoring Fan in Oblivion iv never had any desire to engage in such behavior.

Behavior of playing a fantasy video game?

Just because I want to kill a pixel child NPC in a game does not in any way shape or form translate to real life behavior. 

If in game behaviors translated 100% to real life - we would all be serial killers and mass murderers 

Reality proves otherwise

Doesn't translate but I still find it disturbing you want to kill a pixel child. In this case the same way people complain about characters that look like kids dressed in oversexed clothes disturb them I have often argued that those are not real children and have never felt that it promotes pedo behaviour I am oddly affected by the thought of killing children in games. I suppose you can accuse me of double standards.

I do not believe killing children in games creates the desire to kill children in real life however I am happy they are not allowing it.

Tell you the truth even baby animals bother me and I avoid killing them especially if they are very cute.

alkarionlog

cheyane said:

I don't want that option in a game simply because there is enough violence against them in real life so please not in a game too. So I am happy they did not give anyone that option.

Vrika said:

I wish I could kill children.

But it's just on principle of having the freedom to do it. In reality I try to play the good guy and would never kill any of them as long as it can be avoided.

and see this is why they prefer to not let children be killed, some people are too.... so its easier to block it and prevent any kind of anoyance from this, is not like fallout you could kill children, even if by critical failure and get the child killer stigma from it

alkarionlog

cheyane said:

DMKano said:

MontyBrewster said:

With the exception of Adoring Fan in Oblivion iv never had any desire to engage in such behavior.

Behavior of playing a fantasy video game?

Just because I want to kill a pixel child NPC in a game does not in any way shape or form translate to real life behavior. 

If in game behaviors translated 100% to real life - we would all be serial killers and mass murderers 

Reality proves otherwise

Doesn't translate but I still find it disturbing you want to kill a pixel child. In this case the same way people complain about characters that look like kids dressed in oversexed clothes disturb them I have often argued that those are not real children and have never felt that it promotes pedo behaviour I am oddly affected by the thought of killing children in games. I suppose you can accuse me of double standards.

I do not believe killing children in games creates the desire to kill children in real life however I am happy they are not allowing it.

Tell you the truth even baby animals bother me and I avoid killing them especially if they are very cute.

so its troublesome to kill children in games, but not adults? next you will ask for not being possible to kill females in games because

hey I prefer not to kill animals in games, but if killing then give me xp and hide to craft or sell I will do it

cheyane

alkarionlog said:

cheyane said:

DMKano said:

MontyBrewster said:

With the exception of Adoring Fan in Oblivion iv never had any desire to engage in such behavior.

Behavior of playing a fantasy video game?

Just because I want to kill a pixel child NPC in a game does not in any way shape or form translate to real life behavior. 

If in game behaviors translated 100% to real life - we would all be serial killers and mass murderers 

Reality proves otherwise

Doesn't translate but I still find it disturbing you want to kill a pixel child. In this case the same way people complain about characters that look like kids dressed in oversexed clothes disturb them I have often argued that those are not real children and have never felt that it promotes pedo behaviour I am oddly affected by the thought of killing children in games. I suppose you can accuse me of double standards.

I do not believe killing children in games creates the desire to kill children in real life however I am happy they are not allowing it.

Tell you the truth even baby animals bother me and I avoid killing them especially if they are very cute.

so its troublesome to kill children in games, but not adults? next you will ask for not being possible to kill females in games because

hey I prefer not to kill animals in games, but if killing then give me xp and hide to craft or sell I will do it

How did you make the leap that I asked for anything, I merely commented on their choice. Why are you attacking me for my feelings about this matter? I am actually unable to control how I feel about this.

I am honest that I am uncomfortable about this and that somehow gives people the license to be annoyed with me.

So very sorry that I expressed my genuine discomfort about this topic. 

JeffSpicoli

DMKano said:

MontyBrewster said:

With the exception of Adoring Fan in Oblivion iv never had any desire to engage in such behavior.

Behavior of playing a fantasy video game?

Just because I want to kill a pixel child NPC in a game does not in any way shape or form translate to real life behavior. 

If in game behaviors translated 100% to real life - we would all be serial killers and mass murderers 

Reality proves otherwise

Chill holmes i was making a joke adoring fan is not even a child (or was he), I have a Richard Pryor avatar for Christ sake, do i look like a serious guy to you ?

 I'm not in the mood for your bullshit today so back off man !


                               

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cheyane

DMKano said:

cheyane said:

DMKano said:

MontyBrewster said:

With the exception of Adoring Fan in Oblivion iv never had any desire to engage in such behavior.

Behavior of playing a fantasy video game?

Just because I want to kill a pixel child NPC in a game does not in any way shape or form translate to real life behavior. 

If in game behaviors translated 100% to real life - we would all be serial killers and mass murderers 

Reality proves otherwise

Doesn't translate but I still find it disturbing you want to kill a pixel child. In this case the same way people complain about characters that look like kids dressed in oversexed clothes disturb them I have often argued that those are not real children and have never felt that it promotes pedo behaviour I am oddly affected by the thought of killing children in games. I suppose you can accuse me of double standards.

I do not believe killing children in games creates the desire to kill children in real life however I am happy they are not allowing it.

Tell you the truth even baby animals bother me and I avoid killing them especially if they are very cute.

To me - children, people, animals - only exist in real life.

Children in game is a misnomer - that's pixels on the screen - same goes with animals or anything in game - they are not real they cannot be killed.

Killing in game - again - it's not real 

To me the distinction between games and reality is so clear that I never for a split second confuse anything on the screen as being real.

So I have ZERO issues killing NPCs - because there is no killing at all - ever.

The difference between child, adult, animal npc is just pixels on the screen - they are all equally fictional and non-existent 

There are numerous posts that complain about the way games from Korea have children and how they are oversexualized in their games and the outfits that are available according to many only emphasize this aspect. People eschew their games for this reason and say it promotes a pedophiles interest,  I don't believe that it promotes in game interest in pedophiles because those pixels aren't children. Which is as you yourself say it isn't.

Having grown up reading manga and watching anime I have never made the connection either but in the case of killing a pixel child I am unusually troubled by it and I cannot explain it. It is merely a reaction and I can perhaps now understand why there are forum posts on the other aspect.

It just makes me laugh a little that people are bothered by how a child is dressed and not how it is killed. I am not accusing you of that behaviour but often the former criticism has gone unchallenged and somehow the latter is fine.

I think I had better retire from this thread and not argue about this any more for fear that it might lead to it getting locked.

nomadie

That is a little depressing. Not being able to kill an npc is a bit lame in a game like this.

ChildoftheShadows

My daughters grew up playing the Sims. One of their favorite activities was finding new ways to kill the families. They are all married and have loving, amazing families of their own. 

I think it’s the people complaining about stuff like this that is going to destroy the world. 

Scot

Have they mentioned the puppies and kittens yet? Sheesh. FFS guys we don't need to kill everything, burn down every tree and raise every building to the ground.

I would like to point out that the posters on here are not all big FPS fans which is normally where journalists go to point the finger of blame. This "kill them all" attitude is part of the gaming community, not just the FPS community.

SavageHorizon

Why would you want to kill kids anyway, even in a game. If they were some 'Children Of The Corn' mudafeckers then I'd waste they're them feckers. 

alkarionlog

Arterius said:

Makes sense I read an article a few months ago by someone who made a sprawling open world AAA RPG and he said  the reason they don't put killing kids in games is because they find that testers don't like. Also it makes it hard getting it past the ratings board and that higher ups worry about backlash and the government (Who has it in for video games anyway). He also said the game would probably be rate Adult now a days for all that. Just a bad business move.

Also killing main NPC's is smart too. This game isn't trying to be Skyrim. They have made that clear. They want this RPG to be focused on story like Witcher 3. So it makes sense to not make people murder hobo's.  For everything they are setting out to do in this game neither of these two things surprise me at all.

I think its more technicall then anything really, killing a npc who give a quest is ok you don't need to worry much, you just never get that quest, but killing a npc who needed for a certain quest will make it broken or fail it, on games who let you kill cerain quest realted npcs they give the failed to then because that was a expected behavior now try to do that with several quests

Bladeburaiba

This is just CYA, and CDPR being a good citizen.  We make the (unofficial) rules, they follow them.  Don't agree?  Well then you are not their specific target market.

On the other hand, it creates the situation where some pixelated mass murderer is going to leave all of those "poor" children orphans.  Doesn't that bring enough joy?

Asheram

I only ever wanted to kill those urchins that worked for that mob boss in saint denis for making me chase them across the city in rdr 2.
But if you have a problem killing pixilated children in video game you should have as much a problem with killing any pixilated human too.

TheDarkrayne

Skyrim is being mentioned a lot but you can't kill main plot characters and children in it.. You can down the plot characters but they just get back up after a few seconds.

I'm not sure where people think this became a thing.

Palebane

I’m against any kind of abuse of children in any form of entertainment. It’s fine for backstory or whatever but some things should remain off limits in uncontrolled environments imo. Some people do like and get off on that stuff but those folks should not be catered to.

FlyByKnight

The PC gaming "demographic" never ceases to amaze.

"I don't get to kill children and plot important NPCs, the world is going to shit"

Tell me more about yourselves Middle America.

Albatroes

Lol I see 'killing children' and automatically think back to one of the bosses in Tera that keeps saying "what kind of monster kills children" when you kill her little spawns.

FlyByKnight

I'm going to create an IRL Westworld and invite all you patriots to live out your "fantasies". Then when you're at the peak of your debasement turn all the NPCs safety measures off.