Imagine if ESO was all mounts, cosmetics, being able to interact with a few crafting nodes, and 5 delves. When it was getting tested as an 'alpha'. The test phase EVERYONE was BEGGING to get into. It got crucified when they announced the Imperial package where you paid extra for a mount and the ability to play Imperial race. 90% of the people around shouted pay to win. How times have changed I guess.
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Not hard to imagine what ESO would be like if it were all mounts, cosmetics etc. Its called Cyrodiil. Pretty much nothing to do there - but you can have a lot of fun!
Content locusts take note you do not want Cyrodiil. You want the quest heavy part of ESO in which you can become bloated, eventually bored and die. If you like ESO's content of course.
And there are obvious parallels between the two parts of ESO and SC/SQ42.
As for the debate on the Imperial Horse the issue was between those who believed a subscription model would work and those who felt that the Horse could become something more. As someone who didn't think the sub model would work I was one of those who saw the Imperial as a cash shop in waiting. Never felt like one of the 90% though - most felt a sub would work.
Maybe I am a "content locust." But if you take away the top shelf graphics in that video, what is happening in it that is fun?
Never mind any development videos. What is happening that is fun?
The other players. And their endless ideas.
Have fun
So it's a walking simulator with chat room and flight sim tacked on. I bet the only fun you guys have is playing imagination day by standing around emoting at each other.
Maybe I am a "content locust." But if you take away the top shelf graphics in that video, what is happening in it that is fun?
Never mind any development videos. What is happening that is fun?
The other players. And their endless ideas.
Have fun
So it's a walking simulator with chat room and flight sim tacked on. I bet the only fun you guys have is playing imagination day by standing around emoting at each other.
A poorly implemented flight sim that the devs are still trying to figure out how they want it to function. 7 years in and arguably one of the most important aspects of the game, the flying the ships part, is still being worked on.
Also a poorly implemented walking simulator since it’s janky and things like doorways can kill you.
A poorly implemented flight sim that the devs are still trying to figure out how they want it to function. 7 years in and arguably one of the most important aspects of the game, the flying the ships part, is still being worked on.
Also a poorly implemented walking simulator since it’s janky and things like doorways can kill you.
Seems pretty good already:
If you're dying in doorways maybe you should start using helmets before opening the hatch
A poorly implemented flight sim that the devs are still trying to figure out how they want it to function. 7 years in and arguably one of the most important aspects of the game, the flying the ships part, is still being worked on.
Also a poorly implemented walking simulator since it’s janky and things like doorways can kill you.
Seems pretty good already:
If you're dying in doorways maybe you should start using helmets before opening the hatch
Didn’t bother with the video cause for every video you post showing how great the game is there is at least 1 video showing the glaring flaws.
Didn’t bother with the video cause for every video you post showing how great the game is there is at least 1 video showing the glaring flaws.
You did bother but since it erased your point you went with a pointless fallacy that could be said about every video-game lol
If anything it reinforced his fallacy when you reply with a compilation video of clips that last less than 20 seconds each. A lot of pretty views, but little to no information of how the flight actually works. Except that it seems in Star Citizen you spend most of your time flying behind someone and as close to planet's surface as you can for no discernible reason.
Didn’t bother with the video cause for every video you post showing how great the game is there is at least 1 video showing the glaring flaws.
You did bother but since it erased your point you went with a pointless fallacy that could be said about every video-game lol
If anything it reinforced his fallacy when you reply with a compilation video of clips that last less than 20 seconds each. A lot of pretty views, but little to no information of how the flight actually works. Except that it seems in Star Citizen you spend most of your time flying behind someone and as close to planet's surface as you can for no discernible reason.
Cant understand how you could come to that conclusion... How many hours do you have playing Star Citizen to make that assessment?
Didn’t bother with the video cause for every video you post showing how great the game is there is at least 1 video showing the glaring flaws.
You did bother but since it erased your point you went with a pointless fallacy that could be said about every video-game lol
If anything it reinforced his fallacy when you reply with a compilation video of clips that last less than 20 seconds each. A lot of pretty views, but little to no information of how the flight actually works. Except that it seems in Star Citizen you spend most of your time flying behind someone and as close to planet's surface as you can for no discernible reason.
What can you do though? Walk around an empty planet, look at a rock, clip through a bush /fistpump emote, /airguitar and leave? lol. Nothing to do, no PVE, no PVP. Just you and an empty world. I can imagine the chat dialog......
Player 1 "Dude, did you see that one rock at -2835 5 2110? It looks like Jay Leno"
Player 2 "Naw bro, def Sara Jessica Parker"
Player3 "I thought it looked like Mister Potato Head in Toy Story 3"
Didn’t bother with the video cause for every video you post showing how great the game is there is at least 1 video showing the glaring flaws.
You did bother but since it erased your point you went with a pointless fallacy that could be said about every video-game lol
If anything it reinforced his fallacy when you reply with a compilation video of clips that last less than 20 seconds each. A lot of pretty views, but little to no information of how the flight actually works. Except that it seems in Star Citizen you spend most of your time flying behind someone and as close to planet's surface as you can for no discernible reason.
What can you do though? Walk around an empty planet, look at a rock, clip through a bush /fistpump emote, /airguitar and leave? lol. Nothing to do, no PVE, no PVP. Just you and an empty world. I can imagine the chat dialog......
Player 1 "Dude, did you see that one rock at -2835 5 2110? It looks like Jay Leno"
Player 2 "Naw bro, def Sara Jessica Parker"
Player3 "I thought it looked like Mister Potato Head in Toy Story 3"
So you are just running by assumptions on the gameplay of the game.
This does not include the last 3 major updates, the brough Arccorp with new mission types, more player vs AI content besides dogfighting (turrets, FPS AI, bounty missions), the ability to buy and rent ships, player inventories, fps mining, law/rep system, harvestables, and so on.
"No PvE, No PvP"? You tell me, I wish it was easy doing the most profitable trade route runs without getting PvP 'd/interdicted.
Didn’t bother with the video cause for every video you post showing how great the game is there is at least 1 video showing the glaring flaws.
You did bother but since it erased your point you went with a pointless fallacy that could be said about every video-game lol
If anything it reinforced his fallacy when you reply with a compilation video of clips that last less than 20 seconds each. A lot of pretty views, but little to no information of how the flight actually works. Except that it seems in Star Citizen you spend most of your time flying behind someone and as close to planet's surface as you can for no discernible reason.
Cant understand how you could come to that conclusion... How many hours do you have playing Star Citizen to make that assessment?
See? Even you don't believe that your video can be used to conclude stuff about flying ships in Star Citizen.
That is super cool. I just watched a video explaining relative speed fairly well. It is neat to see something similar simulated almost by chance just because the "world" is being build to be as real / accurate as possible. The tech is great. I hope the game play is there. Still waiting to try it out again until something "big" is announced .
Didn’t bother with the video cause for every video you post showing how great the game is there is at least 1 video showing the glaring flaws.
You did bother but since it erased your point you went with a pointless fallacy that could be said about every video-game lol
If anything it reinforced his fallacy when you reply with a compilation video of clips that last less than 20 seconds each. A lot of pretty views, but little to no information of how the flight actually works. Except that it seems in Star Citizen you spend most of your time flying behind someone and as close to planet's surface as you can for no discernible reason.
What can you do though? Walk around an empty planet, look at a rock, clip through a bush /fistpump emote, /airguitar and leave? lol. Nothing to do, no PVE, no PVP. Just you and an empty world. I can imagine the chat dialog......
Player 1 "Dude, did you see that one rock at -2835 5 2110? It looks like Jay Leno"
Player 2 "Naw bro, def Sara Jessica Parker"
Player3 "I thought it looked like Mister Potato Head in Toy Story 3"
So let me summarize ... you have NO idea what can be done in SC and what the players DO when they are online.
Didn’t bother with the video cause for every video you post showing how great the game is there is at least 1 video showing the glaring flaws.
You did bother but since it erased your point you went with a pointless fallacy that could be said about every video-game lol
If anything it reinforced his fallacy when you reply with a compilation video of clips that last less than 20 seconds each. A lot of pretty views, but little to no information of how the flight actually works. Except that it seems in Star Citizen you spend most of your time flying behind someone and as close to planet's surface as you can for no discernible reason.
What can you do though? Walk around an empty planet, look at a rock, clip through a bush /fistpump emote, /airguitar and leave? lol. Nothing to do, no PVE, no PVP. Just you and an empty world. I can imagine the chat dialog......
Player 1 "Dude, did you see that one rock at -2835 5 2110? It looks like Jay Leno"
Player 2 "Naw bro, def Sara Jessica Parker"
Player3 "I thought it looked like Mister Potato Head in Toy Story 3"
So let me summarize ... you have NO idea what can be done in SC and what the players DO when they are online.
Thank you for that clarification.
Have fun
So let me summarize ... instead of telling them what you can do you just make a condescending post.
The Mythical Man Month comes to mind. This is a book about computer software development; the moral of the story is that adding more and more people and money doesn't necessarily mean you will get a product faster, or even get a product at all.
I haven't been keeping up with this effort, just check in every year or so.
My summary of the state is that there is no game. You cannot buy a game. There is no beta either.
You can donate money with no guarantee of receiving anything, and can sometimes play a partial build if you don't want to save anything.
I usually wait 6 months or more for a new MMO to settle down. In SC's case, this timer hasn't even started yet.
SC could raise $100 billion by selling its donors list. Imagine the value of a list of people who: will give you millions of dollars for an unfinished product; will also buy digital shinies for that unfinished product by the wheelbarrow load; have the patience of Job waiting on the product to release; and have the understanding that no product may ever release. That list would be the Holy Grail for salespersons of, well, anything.
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Didn’t bother with the video cause for every video you post showing how great the game is there is at least 1 video showing the glaring flaws.
You did bother but since it erased your point you went with a pointless fallacy that could be said about every video-game lol
If anything it reinforced his fallacy when you reply with a compilation video of clips that last less than 20 seconds each. A lot of pretty views, but little to no information of how the flight actually works. Except that it seems in Star Citizen you spend most of your time flying behind someone and as close to planet's surface as you can for no discernible reason.
What can you do though? Walk around an empty planet, look at a rock, clip through a bush /fistpump emote, /airguitar and leave? lol. Nothing to do, no PVE, no PVP. Just you and an empty world. I can imagine the chat dialog......
Player 1 "Dude, did you see that one rock at -2835 5 2110? It looks like Jay Leno"
Player 2 "Naw bro, def Sara Jessica Parker"
Player3 "I thought it looked like Mister Potato Head in Toy Story 3"
So let me summarize ... you have NO idea what can be done in SC and what the players DO when they are online.
Thank you for that clarification.
Have fun
Well based on all the videos you folks post that's all I've seen. So based on what I have observed I came to the conclusion that that is indeed all you can do; then added a twist of humor to it. Obviously I struck a nerve.
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Content locusts take note you do not want Cyrodiil. You want the quest heavy part of ESO in which you can become bloated, eventually bored and die. If you like ESO's content of course.
And there are obvious parallels between the two parts of ESO and SC/SQ42.
As for the debate on the Imperial Horse the issue was between those who believed a subscription model would work and those who felt that the Horse could become something more. As someone who didn't think the sub model would work I was one of those who saw the Imperial as a cash shop in waiting. Never felt like one of the 90% though - most felt a sub would work.
If you don't want videos then you can see the content listed here (there is a more accurate list I can't link it rn)
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/axc0tn/what_can_you_actually_do_in_star_citizen/ehsuash/
This does not include the last 3 major updates, the brough Arccorp with new mission types, more player vs AI content besides dogfighting (turrets, FPS AI, bounty missions), the ability to buy and rent ships, player inventories, fps mining, law/rep system, harvestables, and so on.
"No PvE, No PvP"? You tell me, I wish it was easy doing the most profitable trade route runs without getting PvP 'd/interdicted.
Chill on the hyperbole
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Thank you for that clarification
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Don't get me wrong. I marvel at your unwavering optimism, @Erillion. I am just too jaded to believe, however.
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